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16 Mar 2012 11:18 AM   |   6932 clicks   |   Talking Points Memo
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Geotpf     
MFL: lol libs.....your strategery isn't working. Please keep it up.

ABC Poll: Romney Beats Obama as President's Ratings Plunge! (new window)

The country has caught on to the rediculious narrative that your media lapdogs have been pushing and the "weakest frontrunner in history" is spanking your messiah..


There have been eight polls released in March of a Romney/Obama race. One (the one you just quoted) has Romney ahead. One has the race tied. The other six have Obama ahead. If you average all eight up, Obama is ahead by five points.

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16 Mar 2012 12:05 PM
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odinsposse    [TotalFark]  
MFL: lol libs.....your strategery isn't working. Please keep it up.

ABC Poll: Romney Beats Obama as President's Ratings Plunge! (new window)

The country has caught on to the rediculious narrative that your media lapdogs have been pushing and the "weakest frontrunner in history" is spanking your messiah..


You poor guy. It's okay, buddy. Newsmax knows how to hide the pain but eventually you will come to grips with Obama's second (and third) term.

16 Mar 2012 12:05 PM
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Mnemia     
Isn't the GOP permanently in "meltdown" mode? The whole social half of their ideology is to run around in a panic over changes in society. Since society constantly changes, the GOP base is constantly in a meltdown panic.

More on topic: they suck at running a nomination process, too.

16 Mar 2012 12:07 PM
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Rwa2play    [TotalFark]  
bwilson27: MFAWG: The parallel with 1972 continues:

Nobody is rabidly pro-Obama, but the collection of non-entities and outright crazies the GOP is putting forth aren't really a viable option.

I'm pro-Obama. Very much so.


This. I see what's really going on here and much of it is not attributed to him but to Washington's culture.

16 Mar 2012 12:11 PM
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Rwa2play    [TotalFark]  
Felgraf: MFL: lol libs.....your strategery isn't working. Please keep it up.

ABC Poll: Romney Beats Obama as President's Ratings Plunge! (new window)

The country has caught on to the rediculious narrative that your media lapdogs have been pushing and the "weakest frontrunner in history" is spanking your messiah..

"If the presidential election took place today, the poll found that Romney would beat Obama 49 percent to 47 percent."

"The president was barely ahead of former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum, who is running second in the Republican pack - 49 percent to 46 percent."

Republican ahead by two points: "WOOO HE'S LOSING TO ROMNEY!"
Republican behind by three points "He's just BARELY holding on to victory!"

Wat.


Not just that: The re-election machinery hasn't been pushed to 100% full campaign mode.

Also: The Republicans keep thinking that all they've said during this campaign isn't going to bite them in the ass during the summer. They're in for a shocker.

16 Mar 2012 12:14 PM
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ignatius_crumbcake    [TotalFark]  
skodabunny: aren't ultra conservatives the rising majority in US?

Not social conservatives. Outrage over social issues is an old man's game. Rush's audience, for example, is very, very old. These people just naturally die as time goes on, and younger people are less religious and don't care about the gays.

16 Mar 2012 12:15 PM
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e5wsf     
The GOP is the Bible Party and the meltdown has been going on for a decade.
Santorum would promote the rise of the American Taliban.

16 Mar 2012 12:15 PM
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usernameguy    [TotalFark]  
lsf_texas: Typical desperate lib crap trying to take everyone's mind off the real issues that face this country. Keep it up and enjoy watching the masses ignore these manufactured crises.

Yeah, it's the people not passing these laws who are making this an issue.

16 Mar 2012 12:16 PM
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MFL     
mrshowrules: Past 3 days, the GOP proposing:
-women closing their eyes during vaginal ultrasounds if they don't like it
-not divorcing and remembering the good times if they are abused by their husband
-carrying dead fetus' to term (like farm animals do)
-banning the purchase of birth control for purposes of birth control
-resisting anti-violence against women legislation


A. lol
B. lol
C. lol

It's tough to win re-election when the narrative you are running on is exagerated nonsense like this.

Pathetic really.

16 Mar 2012 12:17 PM
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The Larch     
dionysusaur: In a bad economy, Fear sells and that advantage gets used to cram in a lot of awful policy. This is why the Party of Fear has been doing its best to thwart recovery - until November.

People keep saying this, but I think they're wrong. I have seen no evidence that the Republicans have any interest in working on the economy after November.

16 Mar 2012 12:20 PM
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Mnemia     
Felgraf: Honestly? Among other things, until single payer comes along, the health insurance reform is perhaps one of the only ways my GF is *ever* going to be able to get coverage (sans some small tricks on my end) again, given that she had a stroke at 24. (She's fine now!)

So I'm pleased with him on that front. I'd have preferred single payer, but that wasn't going to happen.


That is actually my biggest reason for supporting him, too. I have a genetic disease, and so I'm also affected by the preexisting condition crap (and through no fault of my own, since I was born with it). I'm currently freelancing, which means that the only way I can get insurance is by being on my wife's group policy. I could get a job that would provide insurance benefits, but that means I have to make my career decisions based more on that than on doing what I want to do and what I could otherwise make more money at. So I hope that once the relevant portions of "Obamacare" kick in, I'll be able to actually purchase a decent individual insurance policy. So preserving that law until 2014 is very important to me, and a major reason why I will be voting for Obama again.

I don't think that the healthcare reform law goes anywhere near as far as it needs to, but it's certainly much better than anything the GOP has offered (they basically want to actively make things WORSE for me, by pushing this move to HSAs, etc so strongly (hint: HSAs suck for anyone who has a chronic disease)). Furthermore, they want to stomp on states' right to regulate insurance in order to intentionally create a race to the bottom on regulation. That's not what we need, and it's certainly not what I need as someone who is actually dependent on having good health insurance that's worth a damn and affordable.

16 Mar 2012 12:20 PM
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mrshowrules    [TotalFark]  
born_yesterday: I have a hard time laughing this stuff off anymore...am I alone in thinking this stuff is actually pretty scary? These guys think these ideas will help them secure control of a state or the country. And for fark sakes, in some cases, they're right! That's farking frightening to me.

I'm a dude and I'm afraid. Women need to wake up and get organized. Perhaps, I'm not aware of the reaction right now, but I feel that there is not enough outrage, backlash and people taking to the streets on this.

I'm a Liberal and make no qualms about disliking Conservative/GOP policies and thinking they have nothing to offer. However, this is different. This is akin to the worst elements of Islamic Fundamentalism. It is what I fear and am disgusted about the most in countries like Afghanistan, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Iran and it is a very disturbing trend.

16 Mar 2012 12:21 PM
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born_yesterday    [TotalFark]  
Felgraf: MFL: lol libs.....your strategery isn't working. Please keep it up.

ABC Poll: Romney Beats Obama as President's Ratings Plunge! (new window)

The country has caught on to the rediculious narrative that your media lapdogs have been pushing and the "weakest frontrunner in history" is spanking your messiah..

"If the presidential election took place today, the poll found that Romney would beat Obama 49 percent to 47 percent."

"The president was barely ahead of former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum, who is running second in the Republican pack - 49 percent to 46 percent."

Republican ahead by two points: "WOOO HE'S LOSING TO ROMNEY!"
Republican behind by three points "He's just BARELY holding on to victory!"

Wat.


No presentation of the actual data.

No discussion of the margin of error (which is usually 3-5% points).

That's some fine statistical design and analysis, Lou.

16 Mar 2012 12:21 PM
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bwilson27     
Le Grand Inquisitor:
Why? What has he done for you? I'm genuinely asking.


For me? He hasn't done a damn thing. For this country? He's provided a stable figure that the entire world rallies around. He's not a fool, nor will he let us down, he's doing a remarkable job, considering half this country wants to hang him for being black.
Had his health-care plan not been shot down by rabid rednecks and fools, everyone except the insurance and drug companies would be doing much better right now. Thanks to him, we're out of Iraq. Had McStain been elected, this planet would probably be a smoking rubble heap by now.
Anyone wanna argue that?

16 Mar 2012 12:22 PM
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Mnemia     
The Larch: dionysusaur: In a bad economy, Fear sells and that advantage gets used to cram in a lot of awful policy. This is why the Party of Fear has been doing its best to thwart recovery - until November.

People keep saying this, but I think they're wrong. I have seen no evidence that the Republicans have any interest in working on the economy after November.


For me to consider the GOP a reasonable alternative on the economy, I would need to be convinced that they have totally reversed the economic ideology they have followed for the last 30 years, taken responsibility for how their policies/ideology contributed to the collapse, and stopped pushing failed ideas that they know will not work (like drill baby drill rhetoric). I'm not holding my breath.

16 Mar 2012 12:23 PM
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TDWCom29     
Even as they meltdown they stand a good chance of controlling both houses come November. Also, they're getting elected on the local level enough to make these insane bills possible. While we stand back and laugh at how stupid they are they keep getting elected. Until that's no longer the case we can't really call it a meltdown

16 Mar 2012 12:26 PM
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Mnemia     
mrshowrules: born_yesterday: I have a hard time laughing this stuff off anymore...am I alone in thinking this stuff is actually pretty scary? These guys think these ideas will help them secure control of a state or the country. And for fark sakes, in some cases, they're right! That's farking frightening to me.

I'm a dude and I'm afraid. Women need to wake up and get organized. Perhaps, I'm not aware of the reaction right now, but I feel that there is not enough outrage, backlash and people taking to the streets on this.

I'm a Liberal and make no qualms about disliking Conservative/GOP policies and thinking they have nothing to offer. However, this is different. This is akin to the worst elements of Islamic Fundamentalism. It is what I fear and am disgusted about the most in countries like Afghanistan, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Iran and it is a very disturbing trend.


I think it's going to bite them in the ass when it comes to elections. Women will swing even further away from the GOP than they already have...and women are not a small minority group that the GOP can offset by gaining stronger support among the crazies (like they do with the racists and black people).

Furthermore, while I think that the GOP's rhetoric is crazy and that the laws they are passing against women are completely nuts, I'm pretty sure that they won't succeed in banning contraception. Too much money is made for politically connected corporations on it for it to ever be made illegal again. On the other hand, that doesn't mean that the GOP won't succeed in screwing with women's health in many other ways, such as reducing poor women's access to contraception and further restriction of abortion.

16 Mar 2012 12:27 PM
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Rwa2play    [TotalFark]  
MFL: mrshowrules: Past 3 days, the GOP proposing:
-women closing their eyes during vaginal ultrasounds if they don't like it
-not divorcing and remembering the good times if they are abused by their husband
-carrying dead fetus' to term (like farm animals do)
-banning the purchase of birth control for purposes of birth control
-resisting anti-violence against women legislation

A. lol
B. lol
C. lol

It's tough to win re-election when the narrative you are running on is exagerated nonsense like this.

Pathetic really.


Evasion noted. You're not too good at denying the elephant in the room are you?

16 Mar 2012 12:30 PM
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nekom    [TotalFark]  
Sergeant Grumbles: and "European Socialism", which anyone who bothers to read up on it means a better quality of life for all citizens, rather than just those born into it/steal it.

That's true too, with the information age more people know people from Europe, and while they aren't without their problems as well they seem to have much the same standard of living as the USA if not higher in some regards.

It's 2012 now, the GOP seems to be campaigning as if it's 1950. Not going to work well for them.

16 Mar 2012 12:33 PM
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Uchiha_Cycliste    [TotalFark]  
Gotfire: [i40.tinypic.com image 640x353]

My god has anyone seen a more stereotypical suburban republican housewife? You just know her Mary Kay Cadillac is parked outside, doors thoroughly locked because there are black people seen in the area.


Bull... look at the crowd. She wouldn't ever live anywhere with a black man within 50 miles.

16 Mar 2012 12:35 PM
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Don't Troll Me Bro!     
mrshowrules: Past 3 days, the GOP proposing:

-women closing their eyes during vaginal ultrasounds if they don't like it
-not divorcing and remembering the good times if they are abused by their husband
-carrying dead fetus' to term (like farm animals do)
-banning the purchase of birth control for purposes of birth control
-resisting anti-violence against women legislation


-outlawing contraceptives to anyone who isn't married
-defining single-parenthood as child abuse

16 Mar 2012 12:36 PM
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Cletus C.     
For the good of the country, it's time for a caucus punch.

16 Mar 2012 12:37 PM
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Jim_Callahan     
Wadded Beef: Is social regression really a sound platform on which to run?

Worked for the Taliban and the Iranian counter-revolution, at least for a couple decades. In the Taliban's case their agenda even won more or less via democracy.

16 Mar 2012 12:37 PM
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Jake Havechek     
MFL: mrshowrules: Past 3 days, the GOP proposing:
-women closing their eyes during vaginal ultrasounds if they don't like it
-not divorcing and remembering the good times if they are abused by their husband
-carrying dead fetus' to term (like farm animals do)
-banning the purchase of birth control for purposes of birth control
-resisting anti-violence against women legislation

A. lol
B. lol
C. lol

It's tough to win re-election when the narrative you are running on is exagerated nonsense like this.

Pathetic really.


Really? Every bullet point is a fact, in some cases a documented fact.

16 Mar 2012 12:39 PM
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ignatius_crumbcake    [TotalFark]  
MFL: It's tough to win re-election when the narrative you are running on is exagerated nonsense like this.

The narrative he will be running on is an improving economy and dead terrorists.

Meanwhile all of the dumbass things the GOP nominee (whomever it is) has said over the past few months while pandering to cretins will be repeated over and over again.

16 Mar 2012 12:39 PM
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Duke Phillips' Singing Bears     
ignatius_crumbcake: MFL: It's tough to win re-election when the narrative you are running on is exagerated nonsense like this.

The narrative he will be running on is an improving economy and dead terrorists.

Meanwhile all of the dumbass things the GOP nominee (whomever it is) has said over the past few months while pandering to cretins will be repeated over and over again.


But I heard John King on Diane Rehm this morning saying over and over again that Obama would lose because gas prices. Over and over again. Over. And. Over. Again.

16 Mar 2012 12:42 PM
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brigid_fitch    [TotalFark]  
Gotfire: [i40.tinypic.com image 640x353]

My god has anyone seen a more stereotypical suburban republican housewife? You just know her Mary Kay Cadillac is parked outside, doors thoroughly locked because there are black people seen in the area.


Why the fark are there women there at all? Don't they watch the freakin' news? I'd love to sit down with them and ask how they could in good conscience vote Republican after the past few weeks? Case in point:

mrshowrules: Past 3 days, the GOP proposing:

-women closing their eyes during vaginal ultrasounds if they don't like it
-not divorcing and remembering the good times if they are abused by their husband
-carrying dead fetus' to term (like farm animals do)
-banning the purchase of birth control for purposes of birth control
-resisting anti-violence against women legislation

That's off the top of my head without even trying.


You forgot TX banning Medicaid for any Planned Parenthood visits. Never mind the fact that it already can't be used for abortion--gotta stop the poor from being healthy!

16 Mar 2012 12:43 PM
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brigid_fitch    [TotalFark]  
Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: ignatius_crumbcake: MFL: It's tough to win re-election when the narrative you are running on is exagerated nonsense like this.

The narrative he will be running on is an improving economy and dead terrorists.

Meanwhile all of the dumbass things the GOP nominee (whomever it is) has said over the past few months while pandering to cretins will be repeated over and over again.

But I heard John King on Diane Rehm this morning saying over and over again that Obama would lose because gas prices. Over and over again. Over. And. Over. Again.


King's an idiot and a sensationalist--can't stand him. Gas will come back down in the fall like it does every single time & will no longer be as big a deal in November.

16 Mar 2012 12:49 PM
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Don't Troll Me Bro!     
MFL: mrshowrules: Past 3 days, the GOP proposing:
-women closing their eyes during vaginal ultrasounds if they don't like it
-not divorcing and remembering the good times if they are abused by their husband
-carrying dead fetus' to term (like farm animals do)
-banning the purchase of birth control for purposes of birth control
-resisting anti-violence against women legislation

A. lol
B. lol
C. lol

It's tough to win re-election when the narrative you are running on is exagerated nonsense like this.

Pathetic really.


Exaggerated? These are well documented things, such as proposed legislation and video interviews with elected officials. You're not very good at this. I hope they aren't paying you very much, 'cause your deflection is some of the weakest I've seen. lol, lol, lol, Obama narrative weak? Really?

16 Mar 2012 12:49 PM
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ignatius_crumbcake    [TotalFark]  
Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: But I heard John King on Diane Rehm this morning saying over and over again that Obama would lose because gas prices. Over and over again. Over. And. Over. Again.

I would be very surprised that if, by October or so, Obama has not brokered some kind of deal with Iran and approved the Keystone Pipeline.

16 Mar 2012 12:49 PM
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UNC_Samurai     
qorkfiend: nekom: Calmamity: The only good I see coming from this is the possibility that it splits the Republican party thereby breaking the two party system and allowing for a split in the Democratic party, also.

I wouldn't look for that to happen, but if the GOP wants to ever win anything again, they're going to have to redefine themselves. Their old message just isn't selling anymore.

But it still results in electoral success roughly half the time. There's no incentive for them to change.


This is my problem not just with the people that keep voting for these assholes, but the people who start to say "I'm fed up with the whole situation, and/or just don't want to hear about politics anymore". I get that both political parties have strayed from the idea of governing for the people, but there's an incredibly thin margin between that and Both Sides Are Bad, So Vote Republican. And because of the "us or them" attitude the far right and the talking heads have pushed, they've turned moderates and centrists into apostates. So when we hear people just give up, we start to treat them the same way.

I have hope that we are moving forward as a country and a society, but for every kid I see realize that teh gays aren't going to ruin his life, another grows up racist and refuses to understand why he's wrong.

16 Mar 2012 12:54 PM
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Paul Baumer     
MFL: lol libs.....your strategery isn't working. Please keep it up.

ABC Poll: Romney Beats Obama as President's Ratings Plunge! (new window)

The country has caught on to the rediculious narrative that your media lapdogs have been pushing and the "weakest frontrunner in history" is spanking your messiah..


For the gentleman who can never quite seem to keep up -

RCP Average 3/4 - 3/15 -- 48.1 44.0 Obama +4.1
Rasmussen Tracking 3/13 - 3/15 1500 LV 46 46 Tie
FOX News 3/10 - 3/12 912 RV 46 42 Obama +4
Reuters/Ipsos 3/8 - 3/11 937 RV 52 41 Obama +11
Bloomberg 3/8 - 3/11 746 LV 47 47 Tie
Pew Research 3/7 - 3/11 1188 RV 54 42 Obama +12
CBS News/NY Times 3/7 - 3/11 878 RV 47 44 Obama +3
ABC News/Wash Post 3/7 - 3/10 RV 47 49 Romney +2
IBD/CSM/TIPP 3/4 - 3/11 807 RV 46 41 Obama +5

16 Mar 2012 12:55 PM
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UNC_Samurai     
Hershey Highway Patrol: Wadded Beef: Is social regression really a sound platform on which to run?

Of course it is. When your version of the good old days is just like an episode of the Andy Griffith show.


SINGLE-PARENT HOUSEHOLD! ANDY TAYLOR WAS ABUSING OPIE!!!

16 Mar 2012 12:55 PM
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Eapoe6     
That headline is almost as frequent as "10 ways to please your man."

Are journalists as embarrassed as they should be?
There's a headline.

16 Mar 2012 12:58 PM
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Pants full of macaroni!!     
UNC_Samurai: Hershey Highway Patrol: Wadded Beef: Is social regression really a sound platform on which to run?

Of course it is. When your version of the good old days is just like an episode of the Andy Griffith show.

SINGLE-PARENT HOUSEHOLD! ANDY TAYLOR WAS ABUSING OPIE!!!


CITIZEN'S ARREST! CITIZEN'S ARREST!

16 Mar 2012 01:07 PM
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thamike    [TotalFark]  
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FIRE HAZARD--NO SMOKING WITHIN 50 FT

16 Mar 2012 01:07 PM
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rogue49     
You know how all parties can solve this problem???

By NOT giving us pathetic & mediocre politicians to vote for.


/what a concept...

16 Mar 2012 01:10 PM
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Tax Boy     
Felgraf: "The president was barely ahead of former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum, who is running second in the Republican pack - 49 percent to 46 percent."

These polls are meaningless unless they take electoral votes into account.

/because who ever wins the popular vote always wins the presidency, right?

16 Mar 2012 01:12 PM
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thamike    [TotalFark]  
rogue49: You know how all parties can solve this problem???

By NOT giving us pathetic & mediocre politicians to vote for.


/what a concept...


Best???...FOREVER

16 Mar 2012 01:17 PM
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smeegle     
skodabunny: and aren't ultra conservatives the rising majority in US?

Thats a good question. I get the impression that they are just louder and it only seems like their numbers are increasing.
Conservative baby boomers are dwindling in numbers and young voters are turned off by the RW message re sexuality and women.
We will find out come November.

16 Mar 2012 01:20 PM
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mrshowrules    [TotalFark]  
MFL: mrshowrules: Past 3 days, the GOP proposing:
-women closing their eyes during vaginal ultrasounds if they don't like it
-not divorcing and remembering the good times if they are abused by their husband
-carrying dead fetus' to term (like farm animals do)
-banning the purchase of birth control for purposes of birth control
-resisting anti-violence against women legislation

A. lol
B. lol
C. lol

It's tough to win re-election when the narrative you are running on is exagerated nonsense like this.

Pathetic really.


All these examples were posted with supporting information as recently as today.

16 Mar 2012 01:24 PM
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More_Like_A_Stain     
brigid_fitch:
Why the fark are there women there at all?


See that door just under the flag? There's a kitchen just on the other side. Sammiches are ready to be served as soon as everyone's done talking.

16 Mar 2012 01:29 PM
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Soup4Bonnie     
I like the 9 inches of white socks the guy in the first row is sporting.

16 Mar 2012 01:31 PM
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Goodfella     
I can't wait for Nancy Pelosi to become Speaker of the House again.

John Boehner is going to go down in history as the most inept Speaker in generations.

16 Mar 2012 01:36 PM
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YouWinAgainGravity     
Problems with the vote counts? Maybe the GOP should require that all their voters show id. I mean, that solves everything, right?

16 Mar 2012 01:37 PM
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thamike    [TotalFark]  
Goodfella: I can't wait for Nancy Pelosi to become Speaker of the House again.

John Boehner is going to go down in history as the most inept Speaker in generations.


I wouldn't mind someone other than either.

16 Mar 2012 01:40 PM
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Mrtraveler01    [TotalFark]  
bmongar: The GOP loves women.

Of course, they judge Miss America pageants.

16 Mar 2012 01:41 PM
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Evil Kirk vs Bad Ash     
MFL: mrshowrules: Past 3 days, the GOP proposing:
-women closing their eyes during vaginal ultrasounds if they don't like it
-not divorcing and remembering the good times if they are abused by their husband
-carrying dead fetus' to term (like farm animals do)
-banning the purchase of birth control for purposes of birth control
-resisting anti-violence against women legislation

A. lol
B. lol
C. lol

It's tough to win re-election when the narrative you are running on is exagerated nonsense like this.

Pathetic really.


9/10 That was damn effective.

16 Mar 2012 01:42 PM
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bbfreak     
skodabunny: I might be missing something but from what I've seen only the Democrats seem to be loudly opposing these crazy policies, so if the Republicans are proposing these things to their supporters and their supporters are okay with them... is the GOP really melting down? Might it not be argued that it is in fact being genuinely accountable to its supporters, in which case the only melting down is in libs heads? Maybe the Repubs are failing to attract voters with liberal tendencies with these crazy policies but I reckon they are attracting instead ones with ignorant perspectives and ultra-conservative ideologies, and aren't ultra conservatives the rising majority in US?

No. Keep telling yourself that but no the ultra conservatives are the minority. Brown people, young people are the rising majority. Old white people wont be around for forever.

16 Mar 2012 01:46 PM
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Pants full of macaroni!!     
rogue49: You know how all parties can solve this problem???

By NOT giving us pathetic & mediocre politicians to vote for.


/what a concept...


Difficulty: non-pathetic and non-mediocre people tend not to want to run for political office.

16 Mar 2012 01:49 PM
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