D135: oh hey, and here's the keys to my house as well

And the PIN for my debit card, would they like that as well? You know, so they can investigate all the financial transactions I've ever done.

It's also a substantial matter of confidentiality.

My friends, for instance, set up their profiles with their own privacy settings. Some of them allow me to see pictures or posts that they have decided should not be disclosed to the public. So if I hand over my Facebook password, I'm not just handing over my information. I'm also handing over all of my friends' information, information that was provided to me in confidence. It is not mine to disclose to third parties without the owner's permission, and doing so would be a breach of that confidentiality.

Ergo, hell no.

"We need your facebook password."
"Why?"
"We need to make sure you are able to be discreet."
"Handing you my password would pretty much prove I'm not, wouldn't it?"

quoinguy: I must be the best hire ever.

No Facebook--because I'm an adult (and a secret perv).
No smartphone with apps--don't need one or want to pay for one.
Dummy email account for contests and personal emails away from my public life.
False information for my FARK login.
Completely invisible in Google searches.
No Linkedin account--I have a job that doesn't require "networking" and "public visibility" and "being nice to strangers".

I hate all this social media crap--except venting here on FARK. Beats having to talk to the wife.

Sorry your fark account automatically disqualifies you from any meaningful employment.

brigid_fitch: But I'll Google the hell out of you, so there be careful about your privacy settings & pictures you post.

I'm so happy my real name is way too common to get anything out of googling me. There is some dentist with my name that tries to be very public about it to help as well.

"We need your facebook password"

"How about you get jack shiat and Fark you."

namegoeshere: "I have no Facebook account."

"Why not?"

So what's a good answer to give in an interview?

Because I'm not an AW?

Because I already have other avenues of communication with the few people on this planet I actually care about?

Because their app sucks?

Because no one really cares what I ate for lunch, or where I'm going this evening?

All sorts of valid answers for that one.

Uh, how about no.

I would rather be unemployed.

So how about having a facebook alias that only your friends know about and a pristene facebook page under your name beat them at their own game.

Chameleon: "We need your facebook password."
"Why?"
"We need to make sure you are able to be discreet."
"Handing you my password would pretty much prove I'm not, wouldn't it?"

Exactly. I'd say "I'm an IT professional and I don't give out my password. If you would like to evaluate my Facebook account, I would invite you to add me as a friend on Facebook and I can accept your request."

yanoosh: So how about having a facebook alias that only your friends know about and a pristene facebook page under your name beat them at their own game.

They can be linked fairly easily.

If some interviewer asks for your Facebook password, you can tell them that it's a felony violation of Title 18 USC § 1030 (Computer Fraud and Abuse Act).

Just tell them it is against Facebook Terms of Service and that you cannot break the rules and in fact they are also breaking the rules

Facebook TOS: You will not solicit login information or access an account belonging to someone else.
You will not facilitate or encourage any violations of this Statement.

I don't mind if they ask about Facebook, but if they use MySpace, I won't work there.

Another Government Employee: yanoosh: So how about having a facebook alias that only your friends know about and a pristene facebook page under your name beat them at their own game.

They can be linked fairly easily.

How so?

Unless your name is something like Norbert Cornelius Snorkelwhacker, and you have no clue how to set up facebook settings, this ain't gonna happen.

Contents Under Pressure: Another Government Employee: yanoosh: So how about having a facebook alias that only your friends know about and a pristene facebook page under your name beat them at their own game.

They can be linked fairly easily.

How so?

Unless your name is something like Norbert Cornelius Snorkelwhacker, and you have no clue how to set up facebook settings, this ain't gonna happen.

You called?

/Norbert Cornelius Snorkelwhacker

Flint Ironstag: namegoeshere:
Hmmm... Off to Google myself...

I have a problem in that both my first name and my last name are very rare, and the combination is as far as I can tell unique. No one else in the world has my name. So anyone Googling me will not have hundreds of "John Smiths" or "David Jones" to wade through.


Interesting. I also am the only one with my name on earth. Small club. Easy to get Domains and mail accounts in your own name though! Also when I go to a business and they say they need my SS, I just say, "there can be only one", just search for the name.

I won't be running for office any time soon, as I won't be able to say, "it wasn't me..."

Username's studman69; password's 187farkingallthebiatches.

So, when do I start?

Lupine Chemist: brigid_fitch: But I'll Google the hell out of you, so there be careful about your privacy settings & pictures you post.

I'm so happy my real name is way too common to get anything out of googling me. There is some dentist with my name that tries to be very public about it to help as well.

If you googled my name you will mostly find a somewhat famous member of academia & the law profession. You can stumble across some things about me, but not much.

Lupine Chemist: I'm so happy my real name is way too common to get anything out of googling me. There is some dentist with my name that tries to be very public about it to help as well.

I have the same advantage.

In my case, it is not a dentist, but a prolific online/traditional blogger/commentator.

Even using the information BridgedFitch can cull from my resume, it is exceptionally hard to find anything that refers to me online.

There are two answers I would use if that came up during an interview:

1. Like others here I could point out that sharing login information to anything with others is poor security practice. I could also point out that while I do not have anything that I am not comfortable sharing with the interviewer, I am friends with others who have locked down personal profiles and I would be providing a stranger access to information that my friends would like to remain a measure of control over. Further, I can't provide others with access to personal messages and emails sent that were sent to me through facebook with some expectation of confidentiality.

2. I could point out the information on my resume that shows that I have had an extraordinarily thorough background investigation that covered all aspects of my life. I would be curious to know why a private company feels that it was not comprehensive enough.

namegoeshere: "I have no Facebook account."

"Why not?"

So what's a good answer to give in an interview?

Well, if you can say it with a straight face:

"It seemed like it would be too much of a drain on my time."

/for extra credit, swap out 'time' for 'productivity'.

"Would you accept a MySpace password instead?"
"This interview is over. Please leave my office now."

Lyonid: namegoeshere: "I have no Facebook account."

"Why not?"

So what's a good answer to give in an interview?

Well, if you can say it with a straight face:

"It seemed like it would be too much of a drain on my time."

/for extra credit, swap out 'time' for 'productivity'.

I think that's actually a terrific and honest answer, and shouldn't require too much practice to make it real and sincere.

Most people I know use facebook minimally, do not have blogs, do not tweet, but have otherwise busy lives and jobs.

Contents Under Pressure: Another Government Employee: yanoosh: So how about having a facebook alias that only your friends know about and a pristene facebook page under your name beat them at their own game.

They can be linked fairly easily.

How so?

Unless your name is something like Norbert Cornelius Snorkelwhacker, and you have no clue how to set up facebook settings, this ain't gonna happen.

It takes a little bit more advanced data mining technique, but the underlying Email addresses can be linked (unless you are really fastidious on where you log on for each alias.)

The WindowLicker: Lupine Chemist: I'm so happy my real name is way too common to get anything out of googling me. There is some dentist with my name that tries to be very public about it to help as well.

I have the same advantage.

Same, though you might get a little info on my if you google my email address.

As to the article:
I don't have a facebook account. If I did, I still wouldn't give out the password because it would violate the TOS, it's poor security procedures to give passwords to strangers, and it is frankly none of their business.

Remember the city a few months back that even asked for applicants email passwords?

I hope I never need a job that asks for this info. Makes me want to apply for a job at Sears now, just so I can refuse.

kab: Because their app sucks?

The facebook app for your phone is farking evil. It skims all your contacts and dumps the info into the fb database.

kab: namegoeshere: "I have no Facebook account."
"Why not?"
So what's a good answer to give in an interview?

Because I don't value my self-worth in terms of the number of online "friends" I have, and if my friends want to know what I'm up to, they can call me or email me.

If I were interviewing someone, I think I would ask for their email password - and if they gave it up, I would tell them - sorry, you are not security-conscious enough to work here. Buh-bye.

Sure, how about my online banking password so we can evauluate my fiscal responsibility and my driving abstract and my medical records and fark off?

D135: oh hey, and here's the keys to my house as well

That would be my response, followed by hearty and derisive laughter. Then I would drop some bass into my voice suddenly and say, "But seriously. No." and demand an apology for wasting my time.

I'm normally a kind and cordial person but it wouldn't be the first time I told a hiring manager to go Fark themselves.

/applicant, not supplicant

barefoot in the head: Sure, how about my online banking password so we can evauluate my fiscal responsibility and my driving abstract and my medical records and fark off?

Technically we're 2/3rds of the way there here in the US.

stewbert: I hope I never need a job that asks for this info. Makes me want to apply for a job at Sears now, just so I can refuse.


I will give Sears my information if Sears gives me theirs. Trust is a two way street.

if you have to rely on someone giving you money to get by, you fail at life.

/just inherit it from your rich parents. it's the best way to go.

seriously though, you can get rich from a just a few thousand bucks in start up money. i teach people how to do that.

Facebook Terms of Service:

4.8 You will not share your password, (or in the case of developers, your secret key), let anyone else access your account, or do anything else that might jeopardize the security of your account.

"I'm sorry, but that would violate the terms of service which I agreed to. The Department of Justice regards violating the terms of service of a social networking site as a federal crime. I can't in good conscience assist you in committing a federal crime."

Googling my name leads to my a linked In page with several professionals (including me near the middle) and a genealogy page for an ancestor who lived from 1793 to 1823...
Crap, 30 years and I turn 30 in a little bit.

Are you sure you wish to delete your Fark profile? YES / NO

[YES]

/It's only a matter of time before my affiliation with you jerks makes me unemployable.

Von_Ruff: Are you sure you wish to delete your Fark profile? YES / NO

[YES]

/It's only a matter of time before my affiliation with you jerks makes me unemployable.

this

Von_Ruff: Are you sure you wish to delete your Fark profile? YES / NO

[YES]

/It's only a matter of time before my affiliation with you jerks makes me unemployable.

Good luck! I'm behind 7 boxies!

Von_Ruff: Are you sure you wish to delete your Fark profile? YES / NO

[YES]

/It's only a matter of time before my affiliation with you jerks makes me unemployable.

Funny story...I posted something regarding Apple products here about a year ago and someone from Apple found the post and I was fired for it. I was pissed at the time but quickly got over that.

Fizpez: Post your birthday/religious affiliation/sexual preference in your info section then inform them they are not legally allowed to request that info.

That is the a pretty good strategy. Yes, you will probably get denied for that position, but if more people start doing this, it will eventually clue in these dipshiats that they are treading on thin legal ground.

89 Stick-Up Kid: Good luck! I'm behind 7 boxies!

They backtraced it. You done goofed.

some_beer_drinker: if you have to rely on someone giving you money to get by, you fail at life.

/just inherit it from your rich parents. it's the best way to go.

seriously though, you can get rich from a just a few thousand bucks in start up money. i teach people how to do that.

Step 1: Buy a shotgun and a ski mask
Step 2: Find a bank

How did HR departments get to be so important? To just about everyone who works outside HR, they seem borderline useless or, at times, harmful to employees. Apparently the people who run companies like their ideas.

Wow I jsut did a GIS of me and thee are 47 of me in the US. Well well looks like I died in PA in 2001 unexpectedly at the age of 56 hmmmmmmmm guess I am a ghost woooooooooooooooooo

Botkin of the Yard: How did HR departments get to be so important? To just about everyone who works outside HR, they seem borderline useless or, at times, harmful to employees. Apparently the people who run companies like their ideas.

Modern HR Departments really are a story of how computers can be misused and create social/business negatives.

When I graduated college, it was easy to be able to go to the front door of any engineering company and submit a resume in person, and if an HR representative then scanned your resume and spoke with you and thought you were a viable candidate, they would call the hiring manager to the lobby.

Now, every HR office is located 2000 miles away in a centralized place, they are forced to rely on resume scanning for keywords, and then spy on your private lives to weed out candidates and you can not make your case in person until very very late in the process.

Nevertheless, most of these companies will whine and biatch and lobby for H1B visa candidates with the claim they can't find candidates otherwise.

No H1B visas to ANY company that does not allow a candidate to appear locally in the lobby and apply for a job with a hiring manager for positions at that location.

If you want H1B visas, you have to have a local HR representative (human) and take in resumes and process them locally at any site you want to employ H1B visa employees at.

namegoeshere: "I have no Facebook account."

"Why not?"

So what's a good answer to give in an interview?

Because fark you, that's why. When do I start.

namegoeshere: "I have no Facebook account."

"Why not?"

So what's a good answer to give in an interview?

"Because you're asking me for it. Because now potential employers are asking me to grant them unlimited access to the details of my life. Nope. Personal life is personal (even if I were to post it publicly to share with my friends). Business life is business."

You have the option of going into how Facebook is objectively bad but tread lightly - you don't want to appear paranoid.

steamingpile:
Nothing should go on Facebook that would ever bring embarrassment to you, family, friends, or even work from any job past or present.

*Nothing* goes on my Facebook unless it's guaranteed to bring embarrassment to somebody else.
Otherwise, what's the point??
I use a bogus name anyway, so good luck finding me.

FarkinCyclop

If some interviewer asks for your Facebook password, you can tell them that it's a felony violation of Title 18 USC § 1030 (Computer Fraud and Abuse Act).

No, it isn't, you don't get the job.

"Sorry, but Facebook has frozen my account after I handed out my password to too many potential employers. I guess I violated their Terms of Service or something. Hopefully I'll get my account access back soon. I'm in serious lolcat withdrawal."