The lesson: If you are holding a gun on someone, don't let them get within contact distance. Shoot them before they get close enough to take the gun away from you.

Isn't the whole point of a gun to be a ranged weapon?

Please try this at home. Please.

Thank you.

RexTalionis: Isn't the whole point of a gun to be a ranged weapon?

Mostly, though there are some that are basically melee weapons. For example, the Philadelphia Deringer.

Wow...see how easy it is to disarm someone who is holding a gun on you exactly the way you told them to?!

This guy's one of those itinerant preachers with a gimmick to appeal to "the kids" like those roided morons who used to rip phone books in half in between shouting "JESUS RULES!" and blaring Christian rock.

BOW TO YOUR SENSEI!

/DNWTFV

RexTalionis: Isn't the whole point of a gun to be a ranged weapon?

Don't tell these guys.

There was a Penn and Teller BS a few years ago that featured martial arts. If any genre of any single martial art that sells black belts where are the MMA champions? Simple rule if you pull a gun, shoot the gun.

Mugato: RexTalionis: Isn't the whole point of a gun to be a ranged weapon?

Don't tell these guys.

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When I watched that movie I kept thinking to myself "why don't they just take a step back and shoot the other guy?".

miss diminutive: When I watched that movie I kept thinking to myself "why don't they just take a step back and shoot the other guy?".

People I know love that "gun-kata" shiat, I thought it was the most ridiculous shiat I've ever seen in an action movie that didn't star Steven Segal.

That's retarded.

No modified weaver stance? Just some idiot complying with the demonstration.



That karate guy needs to spend some time getting shot at.

Amused:

Because People in power are Stupid: That's retarded.

No modified weaver stance? Just some idiot complying with the demonstration.

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That karate guy needs to spend some time getting shot at.

From the video:

"He is a speaker that travels to share his story and tell people of the Love of Jesus."

The guy with the long hair and the gun is Jesus.

I'd be disarmed by his Marlon Brando impersonation.

Go ahead, watch it again. Now you can't unhear it!

Mugato: miss diminutive: When I watched that movie I kept thinking to myself "why don't they just take a step back and shoot the other guy?".

People I know love that "gun-kata" shiat, I thought it was the most ridiculous shiat I've ever seen in an action movie that didn't star Steven Segal.

I would put the "curving bullets" in Wanted as the most ridiculous shiat I've ever seen in an action movie that didn't star Steven Segal.

Tellingthem: I would put the "curving bullets" in Wanted as the most ridiculous shiat I've ever seen in an action movie that didn't star Steven Segal.

That's true. And shooting the wings off a fly. I didn't get that movie at all. I know it was based on a comic book, maybe it had required reading to get it.

Tellingthem: Mugato: miss diminutive: When I watched that movie I kept thinking to myself "why don't they just take a step back and shoot the other guy?".

People I know love that "gun-kata" shiat, I thought it was the most ridiculous shiat I've ever seen in an action movie that didn't star Steven Segal.

I would put the "curving bullets" in Wanted as the most ridiculous shiat I've ever seen in an action movie that didn't star Steven Segal.

I haven't seen that particular film, but all bullets curve: That is a natural consequence of gravity, air resistance, and wind.

dittybopper
I haven't seen that particular film, but all bullets curve: That is a natural consequence of gravity, air resistance, and wind.

They curve down to the ground. They don't curve in a corkscrew to hit the side of beef behind Angelina Jolie.

miss diminutive: Mugato: RexTalionis: Isn't the whole point of a gun to be a ranged weapon?

Don't tell these guys.

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When I watched that movie I kept thinking to myself "why don't they just take a step back and shoot the other guy?".

Amatures. (Give it a few seconds)

Tellingthem: Mugato: miss diminutive: When I watched that movie I kept thinking to myself "why don't they just take a step back and shoot the other guy?".

People I know love that "gun-kata" shiat, I thought it was the most ridiculous shiat I've ever seen in an action movie that didn't star Steven Segal.

I would put the "curving bullets" in Wanted as the most ridiculous shiat I've ever seen in an action movie that didn't star Steven Segal.

I don't know. Die Hard 4's "let's steal the internet" is hands-down the most ridiculous shiat I've never seen in an action movie.

/caveat: I haven't seen Indiana Jones 4

dittybopper: Tellingthem: Mugato: miss diminutive: When I watched that movie I kept thinking to myself "why don't they just take a step back and shoot the other guy?".

People I know love that "gun-kata" shiat, I thought it was the most ridiculous shiat I've ever seen in an action movie that didn't star Steven Segal.

I would put the "curving bullets" in Wanted as the most ridiculous shiat I've ever seen in an action movie that didn't star Steven Segal.

I haven't seen that particular film, but all bullets curve: That is a natural consequence of gravity, air resistance, and wind.

Kind of the point. The act of sweeping a gun in an arc would contribute a nearly negligible amount of curve, compared to the results of gravity or air resistance. There's a blog that did a nice writeup of the sheer stupidity demonstrated in that silly-ass movie.

The movie has the shooter corkscrewing a bullet around the head of a person standing midway between the shooter and a target that appears to be, what, 50 feet away? Asinine.

Mugato: miss diminutive: When I watched that movie I kept thinking to myself "why don't they just take a step back and shoot the other guy?".

People I know love that "gun-kata" shiat, I thought it was the most ridiculous shiat I've ever seen in an action movie that didn't star Steven Segal.

The gun kata style stuff is fun on an action scene in say the subway where Person A is trying to pull his gun and person B is trying to block his drawing out of it/lining it up to shoot someone with it. The whole thing is over done. It really only worked in Equilibrium because that had ritualized combat to focus around it.

Anyone who has done short distance track knows how quickly you can get to a target if you are serious about it. Which, as has been stated above, is the reason you should not let them within that type of range before firing.

Jim from Saint Paul: miss diminutive: Mugato: RexTalionis: Isn't the whole point of a gun to be a ranged weapon?

Don't tell these guys.

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When I watched that movie I kept thinking to myself "why don't they just take a step back and shoot the other guy?".

Amatures. (Give it a few seconds)

Best reloads ever. I wonder if the blonde is married to the ass pennies guy?

FormlessOne: The movie has the shooter corkscrewing a bullet around the head of a person standing midway between the shooter and a target that appears to be, what, 50 feet away? Asinine.

The movie's premise is that the protagonists are superhero assassins who take instructions from God via a magical loom.

Honestly, I don't know what about that movie's trailers or Netflix synopsis didn't scream, "You probably won't want to see this sober!"

/you're not going to find intellectually inoffensive entertainment in a Hollywood movie dude

If someone is pulling a gun on you they probably are within a close range because they are probably mugging you and need to be in close to conceal what they are doing and to take what you've got.

Mugato: miss diminutive: When I watched that movie I kept thinking to myself "why don't they just take a step back and shoot the other guy?".

People I know love that "gun-kata" shiat, I thought it was the most ridiculous shiat I've ever seen in an action movie that didn't star Steven Segal.

Assuming it was a real thing, and assuming both of them are masters of it, attempting to disengage would probably be one of the things they train to respond to. You're right that it's the obvious solution, and so any un-trained guy with a gun is going to attempt it. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that the style would probably train them to move with the opponent, who has now allowed themselves to be taken to the defensive and lost the momentum. Alternatively, an actually trained person faced with an opponent in melee who attempts to disengage like that would probably shoot them at the point where they're disengaging and still trying to bring their gun in line to fire.

It's still a stupid idea in general, but never for any of the reasons you morons give.

FormlessOne: dittybopper: Tellingthem: Mugato: miss diminutive: When I watched that movie I kept thinking to myself "why don't they just take a step back and shoot the other guy?".

People I know love that "gun-kata" shiat, I thought it was the most ridiculous shiat I've ever seen in an action movie that didn't star Steven Segal.

I would put the "curving bullets" in Wanted as the most ridiculous shiat I've ever seen in an action movie that didn't star Steven Segal.

I haven't seen that particular film, but all bullets curve: That is a natural consequence of gravity, air resistance, and wind.

Kind of the point. The act of sweeping a gun in an arc would contribute a nearly negligible amount of curve, compared to the results of gravity or air resistance. There's a blog that did a nice writeup of the sheer stupidity demonstrated in that silly-ass movie.

The movie has the shooter corkscrewing a bullet around the head of a person standing midway between the shooter and a target that appears to be, what, 50 feet away? Asinine.

You know the same movie also has a loom that can apparently predict who needs to be killed to make the world a safer place. I don't think realism is exactly what they were going for.

I read that as 7th grade black belt, which would have been way cooler to watch.

The woman he disarmed was probably more worried about mussing her hair than trying to hold the gun on him, anyway.

LowbrowDeluxe: It's still a stupid idea in general, but never for any of the reasons you morons give.

Where did that come from? I just said it was stupid. But thanks for the martial arts lesson. Did Ralph Macchio take you out with a crane kick in a tournament 25 years ago? You sound pissed.

I love it when martial arts people tell you to "stand here and come at me like this"

but what if I did this instead............hey sensei, are you ok?

Can someone go to the Rite Aid next door and get some smelling salts and a cold compress.

Giltric: I love it when martial arts people tell you to "stand here and come at me like this"

but what if I did this instead............hey sensei, are you ok?

Can someone go to the Rite Aid next door and get some smelling salts and a cold compress.

I try not to force people to attack a certain way. Variation is needed to help refine techniques. It's how you learn.

"Let's take a walk."

Getting that close is farking stupid.

" Cajun Karate Keichu-do?"

you have to be kidding

Because People in power are Stupid: No modified weaver stance? Just some idiot complying with the demonstration.

I think the technique is for using against an idiot with a gun, not a trained professional with a gun. Also, if you have the guy with the gun stand back far enough your demonstration is merely "how to get shot".


Jim from Saint Paul: Amatures. (Give it a few seconds)

Howie Spankowitz: Wow...see how easy it is to disarm someone who is holding a gun on you exactly the way you told them to?!

This guy's one of those itinerant preachers with a gimmick to appeal to "the kids" like those roided morons who used to rip phone books in half in between shouting "JESUS RULES!" and blaring Christian rock.

You sound like a happy, tolerant person.

Mija: You sound like a happy, tolerant person.

Wait a minute. Howie makes a joke about scam artist preachers ripping off the gullible (something that has happened throughout history. Fact), and you accuse him of... being intolerant?

That is weak sauce. Weak.

Jim from Saint Paul: Amatures. (Give it a few seconds)

I wish I had boobs. I would really be able to reload a revolver fast.
Oddly, for a country that does not have handguns or big boobs, they sure to show a lot of them in videos.

I guess it helps to have an audience and a microphone when getting robbed, too.

His love of cheeses?

KAPOW! Where is your God now?

eurotrader: There was a Penn and Teller BS a few years ago that featured martial arts. If any genre of any single martial art that sells black belts where are the MMA champions? Simple rule if you pull a gun, shoot the gun.

It's because THEY ARE TOO DEADLY.

FormlessOne: dittybopper: Tellingthem: Mugato: miss diminutive: When I watched that movie I kept thinking to myself "why don't they just take a step back and shoot the other guy?".

People I know love that "gun-kata" shiat, I thought it was the most ridiculous shiat I've ever seen in an action movie that didn't star Steven Segal.

I would put the "curving bullets" in Wanted as the most ridiculous shiat I've ever seen in an action movie that didn't star Steven Segal.

I haven't seen that particular film, but all bullets curve: That is a natural consequence of gravity, air resistance, and wind.

Kind of the point. The act of sweeping a gun in an arc would contribute a nearly negligible amount of curve, compared to the results of gravity or air resistance. There's a blog that did a nice writeup of the sheer stupidity demonstrated in that silly-ass movie.

The movie has the shooter corkscrewing a bullet around the head of a person standing midway between the shooter and a target that appears to be, what, 50 feet away? Asinine.

No doubt. Like I said, I didn't see the film.

Having said *THAT*, if you were, say, on a turntable that was spinning, you could, in theory, "arc" a bullet past an intervening obstruction. That's because the bullet is going to have, in addition to forward velocity, downward acceleration due to gravity, and rotation due to the rifling, tangential velocity relative to the circle the muzzle of the gun described while spinning on that turntable. How much horizontal velocity would be required? Good question. Let's say you need to travel one foot to the left in 50 feet. A .45 ACP has a muzzle velocity around 800 fps, so it will take 1/16th of a second to travel that 50 feet. That means the horizontal velocity has to be around 16 fps (it needs to go 1 foot in 1/16th of a second).

Of course, it wouldn't be a "curve". Viewed from above (ignoring the effect of gravity), the bullet would be going in a straight line, but it would be a straight line that is at a slight angle away from the axis of the bore at the moment when the bullet left the muzzle.

In any sort of practical sense, though, it's not doable.

TheYeti: eurotrader: There was a Penn and Teller BS a few years ago that featured martial arts. If any genre of any single martial art that sells black belts where are the MMA champions? Simple rule if you pull a gun, shoot the gun.

It's because THEY ARE TOO DEADLY.

Neither Penn nor Teller seem especially deadly to me.

Giltric: I love it when martial arts people tell you to "stand here and come at me like this"

but what if I did this instead............hey sensei, are you ok?

Can someone go to the Rite Aid next door and get some smelling salts and a cold compress.

They always remind me of this skit.

Howie Spankowitz:
This guy's one of those itinerant preachers with a gimmick to appeal to "the kids" like those roided morons who used to rip phone books in half in between shouting "JESUS RULES!" and blaring Christian rock.

They were called "THE POWER TEAM". Show some respect. Best high school assembly I ever went to.

Mija: Howie Spankowitz: Wow...see how easy it is to disarm someone who is holding a gun on you exactly the way you told them to?!

This guy's one of those itinerant preachers with a gimmick to appeal to "the kids" like those roided morons who used to rip phone books in half in between shouting "JESUS RULES!" and blaring Christian rock.

You sound like a happy, tolerant person.

No, seriously, it's really a thing. They're bodybuilders for Jesus.

/saw them in the late 80's
//it's lulzy

rosebud_the_sled: for a country that does not have handguns or big boobs, they sure to show a lot of them in videos.

Kinda like a Napoleon complex, but with guns and boobs