and people wonder why atheism is on the rise.

I hope the university does the right thing and "honors" him like he so badly wants them to. It'll play right into his built in xian persecution complex.

btw, i love the gay athletes slideshow - especially the johnny weir pic:



gay? no way!

/NTTAWWT

Then do the honorable thing.

The Christian Taliban has plenty of coverage in Nebraska.

clancifer: The Christian Taliban has plenty of coverage in Nebraska.

i'm just glad the ordinance passed.

then again, the rest of the state looks at omaha like we're a bunch of left-wing, communist, homosexual pornographers.

That's funny... Not too long ago, plenty of people probably would have considered it an 'honor' to be disciplined for anti-desegregation views. Weird.

"To be fired for my faith would be a greater honor than to be fired because we didn't win enough games," Brown told the AP. "I haven't lost any sleep over it. I realize at some point, we live in a politically correct enough culture where that very well could happen."

Then demote him until he's a water boy for being a shiatty coach and role model, don't bring his views of homosexuality into it.

Don't give him the smug satisfaction of acting like a martyr for his cause. Make his career life so shiatty he up and quits on his own because no one will care then.

Well, he sort of resembles a dick, too

/at least there is symmetry

never had it. never will!

Just more proof that the only thing religion does is destroy people and communities by taking away their basic human decency.

What a douchebag. I hope the University calls a press conference just to highlight the fact that he's fired.

If he doesnt express his views at his job then why should they fire him?

Yeah, he is an asshole, but his free time is his own to do with what he pleases.

You would think its farked up if an employer fired an employee for attending a pro-choice rally on their own time, why treat him differently?

Relatively Obscure: Then do the honorable thing.

Personally, I was thinking about the heroic thing. An heroic thing.

He protests to much.

Grand_Moff_Joseph: What a douchebag. I hope the University calls a press conference just to highlight the fact that he's fired.

He's had enough press already.

cman: If he doesnt express his views at his job then why should they fire him?

Yeah, he is an asshole, but his free time is his own to do with what he pleases.

You would think its farked up if an employer fired an employee for attending a pro-choice rally on their own time, why treat him differently?

people get fired for stuff on their FB page every day...why should this guy get special treatment?

cman: If he doesnt express his views at his job then why should they fire him?

Yeah, he is an asshole, but his free time is his own to do with what he pleases.

You would think its farked up if an employer fired an employee for attending a pro-choice rally on their own time, why treat him differently?

actually, i kind of agree with this. it's his right to be an asshole. as long as he's not an asshole at work, who cares?

FlashHarry: cman: If he doesnt express his views at his job then why should they fire him?

Yeah, he is an asshole, but his free time is his own to do with what he pleases.

You would think its farked up if an employer fired an employee for attending a pro-choice rally on their own time, why treat him differently?

actually, i kind of agree with this. it's his right to be an asshole. as long as he's not an asshole at work, who cares?

I kinda do too, but the bar is off wandering with the goal posts... It's kinda like NASCAR only they keep turning right....

sno man: cman: If he doesnt express his views at his job then why should they fire him?

Yeah, he is an asshole, but his free time is his own to do with what he pleases.

You would think its farked up if an employer fired an employee for attending a pro-choice rally on their own time, why treat him differently?

people get fired for stuff on their FB page every day...why should this guy get special treatment?

Because cman is very homophobic and is absolutely ok with discrimination against the "evil gays."

FlashHarry: cman: If he doesnt express his views at his job then why should they fire him?

Yeah, he is an asshole, but his free time is his own to do with what he pleases.

You would think its farked up if an employer fired an employee for attending a pro-choice rally on their own time, why treat him differently?

actually, i kind of agree with this. it's his right to be an asshole. as long as he's not an asshole at work, who cares?

Here's the problem -- if you're a night janitor, and you spout anti-gay views, you really aren't acting as an ambassador for your school. If you're an assistant coach, you definitely ARE "on stage" as a direct representative of the school much of the time.

The difference is there. You might consider it unfair, but them's the breaks. The tradeoff for getting decent bucks and national exposure is that you have to keep a civil tongue in your head about other people.

FlashHarry: and people wonder why atheism is on the rise.

I'm an Atheist and not a huge fan of gays, what's your point?

adamgreeney: sno man: cman: If he doesnt express his views at his job then why should they fire him?

Yeah, he is an asshole, but his free time is his own to do with what he pleases.

You would think its farked up if an employer fired an employee for attending a pro-choice rally on their own time, why treat him differently?

people get fired for stuff on their FB page every day...why should this guy get special treatment?

Because cman is very homophobic and is absolutely ok with discrimination against the "evil gays."

[Citation Needed]

Maybe if he clicks his heels together three times and says he hates homosexuals vehemently enough... he'll forget about all of those forbidden urges he has in the shower room with the guys.

adamgreeney: sno man: cman: If he doesnt express his views at his job then why should they fire him?

Yeah, he is an asshole, but his free time is his own to do with what he pleases.

You would think its farked up if an employer fired an employee for attending a pro-choice rally on their own time, why treat him differently?

people get fired for stuff on their FB page every day...why should this guy get special treatment?

Because cman is very homophobic and is absolutely ok with discrimination against the "evil gays."

If you are gonna spout bullshiat out of your mouth in an attempt to defame me I suggest you at least get some data to back it up

Skr: Maybe if he clicks his heels together three times and says he hates homosexuals vehemently enough... he'll forget about all of those forbidden urges he has in the shower room with the guys.

Sanduskyed!

So by the way these comments are going I assume freedom of speech and religion have gone by the wayside?

FlashHarry: and people wonder why atheism is on the rise.


Not people with a brain.

OK, douchebag, out you go!

trailerpimp: So by the way these comments are going I assume freedom of speech and religion have gone by the wayside?


Nope, just reasonableness and decency.

Anti-gay? pfft that's the coward's way to martyrdom. Take a real brave stand for your faith, be fired for refusing to have your players wear blended fabrics or eat bacon.

As a Nebraskan, let me say fark you Ron Brown, you homophobe.

dahmers love zombie: FlashHarry: cman: If he doesnt express his views at his job then why should they fire him?

Yeah, he is an asshole, but his free time is his own to do with what he pleases.

You would think its farked up if an employer fired an employee for attending a pro-choice rally on their own time, why treat him differently?

actually, i kind of agree with this. it's his right to be an asshole. as long as he's not an asshole at work, who cares?

Here's the problem -- if you're a night janitor, and you spout anti-gay views, you really aren't acting as an ambassador for your school. If you're an assistant coach, you definitely ARE "on stage" as a direct representative of the school much of the time.

The difference is there. You might consider it unfair, but them's the breaks. The tradeoff for getting decent bucks and national exposure is that you have to keep a civil tongue in your head about other people.

I agree that if Brown distinguished his views as a private person from his employment at a public university, I wouldn't care. But Ron Brown got into a shiatload of trouble with Harvey Perlman and Tom Osborne at the hearing before the Omaha ordinance passed when he told people to mail him at his University address instead of his personal address. He was speaking as Husker Asst. Coach Ron Brown, not Private Citizen Ron Brown. Really wish he would've gotten canned then and there - Brown uses his status as a UNL employee all the time to champion his far-right causes. The guy is a serial idiot and an embarrassment to me as both a UNL grad student and a Nebraskan.

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trailerpimp: So by the way these comments are going I assume freedom of speech and religion have gone by the wayside?

He can hold and express whatever views he wants.

However, his employer may not feel those views best represent the organization.

I'm very pro-gay rights... heck, I'm pro-everyone's rights but it does make me a bit nervous to think about a person losing their job for their personal views. He should be able to attend marches and rallies if he wants. As long as he doesn't bring those views into the workplace and he doesn't identify himself as a coach of the university during his protesting, he should be fine. But if he's writing columns in which he drags the university into his world of hate by using his job as a credential, then he needs to go. If he wants his job to be free from consequences of his hatred then it has to work both ways. He can't tell everybody he's Coach Brown while hatemongering. It has to be Ron Brown or Mr. Brown or whatever his nickname is. But nothing university connected. He has to keep that wall between both worlds solid or he deserves the consequences of promoting hate in the university's name.

Also, Judas hanged himself over guilt for being a bottom to Jesus.
Mary swallowed.
And Paul had a crush on the Savior and blogged about it because he was denied the cawk.
/it crowed 3 times.

Vodka Zombie: Just more proof that the only thing religion does is destroy people and communities by taking away their basic human decency.

X, a member of Y said Z. This is not *proof* that members of Y are destined to always say things like Z.

It remains distressing that people who likely want to claim a high ground of intellectual integrity and rationality attempt to defend their antagonistic view of religion with very basic errors of logic.

Let me put it another way. You're not helping.

When Ron Brown was leading the prayer before the game against Penn St just after the Paterno firing, I said then he was condoning the actions of Sandusky. Everyone in Nebraska was gushing about his healing touch. I didn't buy it. He's creepy in person, and if there's another scandal involving a "respectable" coach abusing his power, he'll be the center of that storm.

9beers: FlashHarry: and people wonder why atheism is on the rise.

I'm an Atheist and not a huge fan of gays, what's your point?

I believe his point was that religion indoctrinates people into thinking that "teh gay" is evil and that is where the majority of the problem comes from. As for why your a homophobe who can say, maybe you're just insecure.

I hear he calls his penis a "Cornhusker".

I do love how it bothers him so much that gay people would get anti-discrimination protection. So very Christian of him.

trailerpimp: So by the way these comments are going I assume freedom of speech and religion have gone by the wayside?

Doesn't exactly sound like he's in favor of amendment one:

he attended an Omaha City Council hearing and testified against an anti-discrimination ordinance that extended protections to gay and transgender people.

In Brown's three-minute appearance, he challenged ordinance sponsor Ben Gray and other members to remember that the Bible does not condone homosexuality. He told council members they would be held to "great accountability for the decision you are making."

Wow, somebody involved in sports is a homophobic fundie asshole? I AM SHOCKED.

Don't believe what someone else believes, get fired.

Yeah, nothing f*cked up about that.

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