There have been cutbacks? Actual cutbacks? Not just cuts in the rate of increase?

ManRay: There have been cutbacks? Actual cutbacks? Not just cuts in the rate of increase?

Cletus C.: Am I the only one who got the joke? "Cutbacks in government spending." Ha. That's good stuff right there.


The bulk of stimulus spending ended a while back

meat0918: Propain_az: Weaver95: Propain_az: I have a delima. I want to purchase a new MacBook Pro (15" matte screen), but I can only afford it if I cut my other spending (food, rent, etc. and stuff for kid). I'm thinking I should apply for government assistance for food and rent. THen I can get the laptop. Is that a good idea? I think it is.

you just described how the oil industry runs it business....

Well, I don't know about that, but I do know that I want this laptop. I think I'm going to do it, that is get on a couple of assistance programs.

Good luck.

You need to be destitute for the rent assistance, if you're lucky. Even having just $300 in income is too much for TANF for a family of 3 with one on the way. Believe me, I know this from experience.

You might want to quit your job, just to pad your numbers, but you might, depending on income, still qualify for $10 or $20 in Food stamps, maybe even $100-$200. Even though Food stamps usage has gone up, many families that qualify have not applied for assistance.

I'll tell you, living in fear of being evicted if I missed rent, having the heat turned off, barely making the electric, barely affording gas, those sweet government assistance programs kept me living high on the hog with the latest in hand me down 19" tube TV with the knobs for channel changers technology, and an old PS2, no cable TV, just internet so I could continue to apply for work and keep my programming skills up on my 5 year old computer. Oh, and I had a fridge that was lovingly provided by my apartment complex.

You ignorant jackass.

It got better at least. After the hard times, working multiple shiatty jobs at once, I finally landed a decent job back in 2005. My last raise pushed me just above 60K.

Look I just want a MacBook. Sorry you had a hard road. Nice name calling also.

Propain_az: shamanwest: Propain_az: I have a delima. I want to purchase a new MacBook Pro (15" matte screen), but I can only afford it if I cut my other spending (food, rent, etc. and stuff for kid). I'm thinking I should apply for government assistance for food and rent. THen I can get the laptop. Is that a good idea? I think it is.

Do you know how I know you'd qualify for assistance?

/stupid Apple
//only loved by lazy "artists" who can't get a real job
///stupid Apple
////is the only thing that makes the lazy "artists" annoying

Well that is my point, I could qualify. I haven't abused it becuase we (my family) can make it without it. But I want this laptop and I can get it by not spending my own money on food, etc.
Oh, and I am by no means an artist. Maybe a fartist. heh!

Well, you are wanting to buy a MacBook. Buy a real computer, and I'll have more respect.

Also, remember that assistance is income-based, not what you spend on food-based. If you have a "struggling" artist income, you should be fine. Otherwise, I would consider more children. Depending on your state, each child adds 5-10k to your cap. If you have enough kids, you can really rake in the welfare money.

It's awesome.

/dammit stupid kids, put that shiat down
//can't you see i'm typin' on the computer?

Propain_az: meat0918: Propain_az: Weaver95: Propain_az: I have a delima. I want to purchase a new MacBook Pro (15" matte screen), but I can only afford it if I cut my other spending (food, rent, etc. and stuff for kid). I'm thinking I should apply for government assistance for food and rent. THen I can get the laptop. Is that a good idea? I think it is.

you just described how the oil industry runs it business....

Well, I don't know about that, but I do know that I want this laptop. I think I'm going to do it, that is get on a couple of assistance programs.

Good luck.

You need to be destitute for the rent assistance, if you're lucky. Even having just $300 in income is too much for TANF for a family of 3 with one on the way. Believe me, I know this from experience.

You might want to quit your job, just to pad your numbers, but you might, depending on income, still qualify for $10 or $20 in Food stamps, maybe even $100-$200. Even though Food stamps usage has gone up, many families that qualify have not applied for assistance.

I'll tell you, living in fear of being evicted if I missed rent, having the heat turned off, barely making the electric, barely affording gas, those sweet government assistance programs kept me living high on the hog with the latest in hand me down 19" tube TV with the knobs for channel changers technology, and an old PS2, no cable TV, just internet so I could continue to apply for work and keep my programming skills up on my 5 year old computer. Oh, and I had a fridge that was lovingly provided by my apartment complex.

You ignorant jackass.

It got better at least. After the hard times, working multiple shiatty jobs at once, I finally landed a decent job back in 2005. My last raise pushed me just above 60K.

Look I just want a MacBook. Sorry you had a hard road. Nice name calling also.

You're strawmanning pretty hard there. So when is Macbook/iPad Welfare King gonna become the new Cadillac Welfare Queen?

I take serious offense to that welfare queen image, because in my experience, the people on assistance are trying to fix things and get off assistance. You have a handful of abusers making the rest that are just trying to survive look bad.

shamanwest: Propain_az: shamanwest: Propain_az: I have a delima. I want to purchase a new MacBook Pro (15" matte screen), but I can only afford it if I cut my other spending (food, rent, etc. and stuff for kid). I'm thinking I should apply for government assistance for food and rent. THen I can get the laptop. Is that a good idea? I think it is.

Do you know how I know you'd qualify for assistance?

/stupid Apple
//only loved by lazy "artists" who can't get a real job
///stupid Apple
////is the only thing that makes the lazy "artists" annoying

Well that is my point, I could qualify. I haven't abused it becuase we (my family) can make it without it. But I want this laptop and I can get it by not spending my own money on food, etc.
Oh, and I am by no means an artist. Maybe a fartist. heh!

Well, you are wanting to buy a MacBook. Buy a real computer, and I'll have more respect.

Also, remember that assistance is income-based, not what you spend on food-based. If you have a "struggling" artist income, you should be fine. Otherwise, I would consider more children. Depending on your state, each child adds 5-10k to your cap. If you have enough kids, you can really rake in the welfare money.

It's awesome.

/dammit stupid kids, put that shiat down
//can't you see i'm typin' on the computer?

Don't worry based on my income, I'm good. Don't want anymore kids.

TheDumbBlonde: Government spending = Growth in Gross National Product? That's a great model.

This may be a repeat, but:

GDP = private consumption + gross investment + government spending + (exports − imports)

/Basic farking macroeconomics.
//Keep living down to your handle.

meat0918: I take serious offense to that welfare queen image, because in my experience, the people on assistance are trying to fix things and get off assistance

not just in your experience either.. in the actual statistics

99% of welfare recipients on on it once in their life for less than 6 months [source: the official records.. quoting a senator in the late 90s]

meat0918:

I take serious offense to that welfare queen image, because in my experience, the people on assistance are trying to fix things and get off assistance. You have a handful of abusers making the rest that are just trying to survive look bad.

I still don't understand how a god fearing out of work/working poor voter can possibly vote Republican. that just floors me. people voting against their own best interests just offends me somehow.

Kazan: meat0918: I take serious offense to that welfare queen image, because in my experience, the people on assistance are trying to fix things and get off assistance

not just in your experience either.. in the actual statistics

99% of welfare recipients on on it once in their life for less than 6 months [source: the official records.. quoting a senator in the late 90s]

reality doesn't matter. what matters is the GOP talking point, and that talking point boils down to 'f*ck the poor/tax cuts for the rich'.

Kazan: [source: the official records.. quoting a senator in the late 90s]

i should work that better - i am quoting a senator who is quoting the official records.

Big government. Right.

Elmo Jones: cameroncrazy1984: Serious Black: cameroncrazy1984: MrBallou: TwoHead: It really is a testament to the power of this nations economy. When you consider how much effort has gone into trying to slow or stop the recovery 2.2% is amazing. Imagine if everyone was working towards success what that number might be.

Good point. With all the effort the GOP has been putting into tanking the economy over the last couple of years, they should have done much better.

Just shows how incompetent they really are. They can't even fark things up effectively. No way they should be running the country.

The Wednesday after the election, I think I'm going to drink champagne all day and watch videos of Mitch McConnell saying his number one goal is to make Obama a one-term President.

Why would you drink champagne when you can drink the tears of unfathomable sadness coming out of every reactionary in America?

Champagne tastes better?

And there's alcohol in champagne. Although there might be booze in Boehner's tears...

It's fermented Tang.

Weaver95: that just floors me. people voting against their own best interests just offends me somehow.

bbbubbut but .. brown people! gays! ATHEISTS! SOCIALISTS COMMUNISTS!

Weaver95: reality doesn't matter. what matters is the GOP talking point, and that talking point boils down to 'f*ck the poor/tax cuts for the rich'.

dduuuh


doh i really need to repost

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.

6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed
to the government's policies or actions.

9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

cameroncrazy1984: MrBallou: TwoHead: It really is a testament to the power of this nations economy. When you consider how much effort has gone into trying to slow or stop the recovery 2.2% is amazing. Imagine if everyone was working towards success what that number might be.

Good point. With all the effort the GOP has been putting into tanking the economy over the last couple of years, they should have done much better.

Just shows how incompetent they really are. They can't even fark things up effectively. No way they should be running the country.

The Wednesday after the election, I think I'm going to drink champagne all day and watch videos of Mitch McConnell saying his number one goal is to make Obama a one-term President.

That'll be even more satisfying than 10 minutes of Tyrion slapping Joffrey. And that's pretty damned satisfying.

Did Black March succeed?

Serious Black: The slowdown in GDP growth is obviously because we didn't cut government spending enough. If we cut a humongous amount of spending by, say, abolishing food stamps and Medicaid, I guarantee that GDP would grow by at least 10,000% the following quarter.

So dramatically cutting spending will stimulate the economy?

make me some tea: Serious Black: The slowdown in GDP growth is obviously because we didn't cut government spending enough. If we cut a humongous amount of spending by, say, abolishing food stamps and Medicaid, I guarantee that GDP would grow by at least 10,000% the following quarter.

Some countries don't have food stamps and Medicaid programs for their impoverished citizens. Those countries are awesome places to live, perhaps you could go there and see for yourself the awesomeness.

I think you may need your sarcasm detector recalibrated.

I'm a liberal, partisan a-hole, but even I am able to put that aside to say the pics of the Space Shuttle over NYC are frikken awesome.

Can somebody name one time in modern history that austerity measures led to an economic recovery? This is a serious question.

theteacher: Did Black March succeed?

Yeah, his new CD is freakin' awesome!

/Wish I had a macbook pro to listen to it on!

I just want to note this on the graphic MyRandomName posted (which was sourced from the Heritage Foundation)



The pink-tinted area are the years between 2005 and the beginning of the year 2009 (i.e. GWB's second term). The period of massive federal spending coupled with massive dropoff in revenue was during this period (i.e. prior to Obama inauguration).

Following 2009 comes a period of drop-off in federal spending along with a rebound in revenues.

fusillade762: make me some tea: Serious Black: The slowdown in GDP growth is obviously because we didn't cut government spending enough. If we cut a humongous amount of spending by, say, abolishing food stamps and Medicaid, I guarantee that GDP would grow by at least 10,000% the following quarter.

Some countries don't have food stamps and Medicaid programs for their impoverished citizens. Those countries are awesome places to live, perhaps you could go there and see for yourself the awesomeness.

I think you may need your sarcasm detector recalibrated.

Ya woulda thought the "10,000%" thing mighta given it away but nope.

Smelly McUgly: Can somebody name one time in modern history that austerity measures led to an economic recovery? This is a serious question.

No, but that hasn't kept the IMF and World Bank from pushing that agenda for more than three decades.

When we have a budget that is less than the previous year, I will accept that Government has "cutback".

Weaver95: meat0918:

I take serious offense to that welfare queen image, because in my experience, the people on assistance are trying to fix things and get off assistance. You have a handful of abusers making the rest that are just trying to survive look bad.

I still don't understand how a god fearing out of work/working poor voter can possibly vote Republican. that just floors me. people voting against their own best interests just offends me somehow.

You're not alone. Willful and proud stupidity bothers me on a very fundamental level. I like to think there was a time when people that were too dumb to know what they were talking about would feel some sort of...shame about it. But to quote Ron White, "You can't fix stupid", and right now, the stupid are being told that their "ignorance is just as valid as my knowledge".

soy_bomb: When we have a budget that is less than the previous year, I will accept that Government has "cutback".

That. We haven't had any cutbacks in government spending. Only decreases in projected increases.

meat0918: Propain_az: meat0918: Propain_az: Weaver95: Propain_az: I have a delima. I want to purchase a new MacBook Pro (15" matte screen), but I can only afford it if I cut my other spending (food, rent, etc. and stuff for kid). I'm thinking I should apply for government assistance for food and rent. THen I can get the laptop. Is that a good idea? I think it is.

you just described how the oil industry runs it business....

Well, I don't know about that, but I do know that I want this laptop. I think I'm going to do it, that is get on a couple of assistance programs.

Good luck.

You need to be destitute for the rent assistance, if you're lucky. Even having just $300 in income is too much for TANF for a family of 3 with one on the way. Believe me, I know this from experience.

You might want to quit your job, just to pad your numbers, but you might, depending on income, still qualify for $10 or $20 in Food stamps, maybe even $100-$200. Even though Food stamps usage has gone up, many families that qualify have not applied for assistance.

I'll tell you, living in fear of being evicted if I missed rent, having the heat turned off, barely making the electric, barely affording gas, those sweet government assistance programs kept me living high on the hog with the latest in hand me down 19" tube TV with the knobs for channel changers technology, and an old PS2, no cable TV, just internet so I could continue to apply for work and keep my programming skills up on my 5 year old computer. Oh, and I had a fridge that was lovingly provided by my apartment complex.

You ignorant jackass.

It got better at least. After the hard times, working multiple shiatty jobs at once, I finally landed a decent job back in 2005. My last raise pushed me just above 60K.

Look I just want a MacBook. Sorry you had a hard road. Nice name calling also.

You're strawmanning pretty hard there. So when is Macbook/iPad Welfare King gonna become the new Cadillac Welfare Queen?

I take serious offense to that welfare queen image, because in my experience, the people on assistance are trying to fix things and get off assistance. You have a handful of abusers making the rest that are just trying to survive look bad.

Reading your post brought back a lot if memories, with only a few tweaks here and there. I hate when people who have never had to rely on assistance (and then still only had enough to be hungry for days at a time, but there's a roof thank goodness) talk on and on about how help goes to leaches, or they should game the system like they assume we were. My partner and I applied for food assistance, and were offered $16 a month. We finally climbed out of soul-crushing poverty, but a habit of mine now is to keep the fridge stocked, and I still take poctures of it when I load it up, just like I used to on the first of the month back then. Something about being able to look at what would be available on the 1st helped me get by when hungry on the 22nd.

In short, I hate people who act like people on assistance are living like movie stars. It's not true. It's just enough you keep you from dying on the side of the highway.

Weaver95: Kazan: meat0918: I take serious offense to that welfare queen image, because in my experience, the people on assistance are trying to fix things and get off assistance

not just in your experience either.. in the actual statistics

99% of welfare recipients on on it once in their life for less than 6 months [source: the official records.. quoting a senator in the late 90s]

reality doesn't matter. what matters is the GOP talking point, and that talking point boils down to 'f*ck the poor/tax cuts for the rich'.

No no. The current talking point is "Make the poor pay the rich for the right to give tax cuts to the rich, and then they'll f*ck them without a courtesy reacharound for not having it in exact change."

soy_bomb: When we have a budget that is less than the previous year, I will accept that Government has "cutback".

Good news. In 2010, the total federal expenditure was 3.721 trillion dollars. In 2011, the total federal expenditure was 3.360 trillion dollars.

Propain_az: I have a delima. I want to purchase a new MacBook Pro (15" matte screen), but I can only afford it if I cut my other spending (food, rent, etc. and stuff for kid). I'm thinking I should apply for government assistance for food and rent. THen I can get the laptop. Is that a good idea? I think it is.

See if you can pay for it with an EBT card.

/this your tax dollars at work!

Propain_az: theteacher: Did Black March succeed?

Yeah, his new CD is freakin' awesome!

/Wish I had a macbook pro to listen to it on!

Maybe you could make a case from cardboard or something.

Link

Kazan: Weaver95: that just floors me. people voting against their own best interests just offends me somehow.

bbbubbut but .. brown people! gays! ATHEISTS! SOCIALISTS COMMUNISTS!

Weaver95: reality doesn't matter. what matters is the GOP talking point, and that talking point boils down to 'f*ck the poor/tax cuts for the rich'.

dduuuh


doh i really need to repost

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.

6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, ...

Thank you I am totally stealing your well thought out and comprehensive list for use in my Poli Sci class discussions this fall. When taking Poli Sci in the south, quick copy/past docs like this are very helpful!

MyRandomName: Holy shiat, look at this austerity in Federal Spending under Obama!

[www.heritage.org image 640x452]

Yes you are a retard submitter.

Looks like he's the first president to slow down spending at all according to your graph. I'd say that's progress. You ever tried to turn a massive boat like the US? They don't tend to turn on a dime. And had Boner been able to control the Tea Baggers we probably would have seen some entitlement cuts and still have our AAA S&P rating.

Sadly cutting taxes is more important than deficit reduction to the GOP and the Tea Party.

I blame the GOP for only propagating "defecits don't matter" in the good times, when spending by the govs at all levels should decrease then complaining about them in the bad times when they are most necessary.

Obama's 1937 slowdown is next, and the belly aching from the GOP will be disgusting regardless of November's outcome.

RexTalionis: soy_bomb: When we have a budget that is less than the previous year, I will accept that Government has "cutback".

Good news. In 2010, the total federal expenditure was 3.721 trillion dollars. In 2011, the total federal expenditure was 3.360 trillion dollars.

2011 United States federal budget - $3.8 trillion (submitted 2010 by President Obama)
2010 United States federal budget - $3.6 trillion (submitted 2009 by President Obama)

/2011 expenditure was not 3.3 billion

soy_bomb: /2011 expenditure was not 3.3 billion trillion

FTFM. Billion, trillion, it no longer seems like real money. That's the problem.

MyRandomName: OMG, LOOK AT THESE GOVERNMENT CUTBACKS PUTTING US ALL THE WAY BACK TO NEAR HISTORIC SPENDING RATES!!!



God some of you are farking idiots.

This chart illustrates how long weve been in a state of persistent war. WWII was a spike but loom at the rise since. Korea and Vietnam were just blurps of the Cold War and its been global secret regime whack-a-mile ever since, feeding on itself on an ever growing cycle of hate. The more people we have to cobtrol, the more it costs. The spending wont stop until the feds learn to just let go and let live.

Which means never.

Aracnix: MyRandomName:

This chart illustrates how long weve been in a state of persistent war. WWII was a spike but loom at the rise since. Korea and Vietnam were just blurps of the Cold War and its been global secret regime whack-a-mile ever since, feeding on itself on an ever growing cycle of hate. The more people we have to cobtrol, the more it costs. The spending wont stop until the feds learn to just let go and let live.

Which means never.

Swype? Sucks, doesn't it?

/Should you be posting paranoid rants from a GPS-enabled phone?

soy_bomb: RexTalionis: soy_bomb: When we have a budget that is less than the previous year, I will accept that Government has "cutback".

Good news. In 2010, the total federal expenditure was 3.721 trillion dollars. In 2011, the total federal expenditure was 3.360 trillion dollars.

2011 United States federal budget - $3.8 trillion (submitted 2010 by President Obama)
2010 United States federal budget - $3.6 trillion (submitted 2009 by President Obama)

/2011 expenditure was not 3.3 billion

Way to move the goalposts there, shiat-bomb. The expenses were LOWER than budgeted....and you're still not happy. By your own submission, the budget was $3.8 trillion, the expenses were $3.3 trillion...and you're COMPLAINING?!??! So SOMETHING got cut...why are you still whining?

Teresaol31: Thank you I am totally stealing your well thought out and comprehensive list for use in my Poli Sci class discussions this fall. When taking Poli Sci in the south, quick copy/past docs like this are very helpful!

not mine - google "14 fundamentals of fascism"

Gyrfalcon: soy_bomb: RexTalionis: soy_bomb: When we have a budget that is less than the previous year, I will accept that Government has "cutback".

Good news. In 2010, the total federal expenditure was 3.721 trillion dollars. In 2011, the total federal expenditure was 3.360 trillion dollars.

2011 United States federal budget - $3.8 trillion (submitted 2010 by President Obama)
2010 United States federal budget - $3.6 trillion (submitted 2009 by President Obama)

/2011 expenditure was not 3.3 billion

Way to move the goalposts there, shiat-bomb. The expenses were LOWER than budgeted....and you're still not happy. By your own submission, the budget was $3.8 trillion, the expenses were $3.3 trillion...and you're COMPLAINING?!??! So SOMETHING got cut...why are you still whining?

because he is an unamerican partisan asshat, why else?


like all the piss drinking sons of circus whores called the right wing

The minds of liberals...

"Taking money out of the private sector and having the government spend it somehow grows the economy! Failure to do so stops economic growth!"

Whatever logic has to be twisted and contorted to fit your world view I suppose. Only in the mind of a liberal could the government make better choices about how to spend money than the people who actually earned that money.

Kazan:

doh i really need to repost

signs of a fascist government...

Also applicable if you're writing the villain's role in any fantasy piece (Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, etc.).

/Watching current politics is like living in a fantasy world :-/

randomjsa: The minds of liberals...

"Taking money out of the private sector and having the government spend it somehow grows the economy! Failure to do so stops economic growth!"

Whatever logic has to be twisted and contorted to fit your world view I suppose. Only in the mind of a liberal could the government make better choices about how to spend money than the people who actually earned that money.

Meh. 0.0025/10 because it might get a nibble.

randomjsa: The minds of liberals...

"Taking money out of the private sector and having the government spend it somehow grows the economy! Failure to do so stops economic growth!"

Whatever logic has to be twisted and contorted to fit your world view I suppose. Only in the mind of a liberal could the government make better choices about how to spend money than the people who actually earned that money.

The fact you don't understand basic economics shows how much of a farktard and a dumbass you really are.

The sad thing is, you really think you're the smartest guy in the room when you're really not...especially someone who can't grasp even the most basic of economics.

demaL-demaL-yeH: randomjsa: The minds of liberals...

"Taking money out of the private sector and having the government spend it somehow grows the economy! Failure to do so stops economic growth!"

Whatever logic has to be twisted and contorted to fit your world view I suppose. Only in the mind of a liberal could the government make better choices about how to spend money than the people who actually earned that money.

Meh. 0.0025/10 because it might get a nibble.

No...he really believes that.

I think he really is that stupid. Which in that case, I pity him a little.

Glad to see extending the Bush Tax cuts helped again.

demaL-demaL-yeH: randomjsa: The minds of liberals...

"Taking money out of the private sector and having the government spend it somehow grows the economy! Failure to do so stops economic growth!"

Whatever logic has to be twisted and contorted to fit your world view I suppose. Only in the mind of a liberal could the government make better choices about how to spend money than the people who actually earned that money.

Meh. 0.0025/10 because it might get a nibble.

He's not trolling. He's that dumb.

Propain_az: shamanwest: Propain_az: shamanwest: Propain_az: I have a delima. I want to purchase a new MacBook Pro (15" matte screen), but I can only afford it if I cut my other spending (food, rent, etc. and stuff for kid). I'm thinking I should apply for government assistance for food and rent. THen I can get the laptop. Is that a good idea? I think it is.

Do you know how I know you'd qualify for assistance?

/stupid Apple
//only loved by lazy "artists" who can't get a real job
///stupid Apple
////is the only thing that makes the lazy "artists" annoying

Well that is my point, I could qualify. I haven't abused it becuase we (my family) can make it without it. But I want this laptop and I can get it by not spending my own money on food, etc.
Oh, and I am by no means an artist. Maybe a fartist. heh!

Well, you are wanting to buy a MacBook. Buy a real computer, and I'll have more respect.

Also, remember that assistance is income-based, not what you spend on food-based. If you have a "struggling" artist income, you should be fine. Otherwise, I would consider more children. Depending on your state, each child adds 5-10k to your cap. If you have enough kids, you can really rake in the welfare money.

It's awesome.

/dammit stupid kids, put that shiat down
//can't you see i'm typin' on the computer?

Don't worry based on my income, I'm good. Don't want anymore kids.


So do it already, christ. And you know what? I'd rather my tax money for that than another oil "subsidy." Because you spending money actually helps move the economy. Something giving yet another hand-out to those corporate welfare queens who then just toss it on their pile to sit on don't do.