What, the cubbies will be playing? I don't believe it.

should be an interesting war. We just gave them our drone technology and now we are going to bomb them from 30,000 feet until they nuke Israel.

get the popcorn ready young men, you are going to go to the Middle East (what better way to put unemployed graduates to work than to draft them for WWIV.

EnviroDude: get the popcorn ready young men, you are going to go to the Middle East (what better way to put unemployed graduates to work than to draft them for WWIV.

If I had my way we'd just send you... an Army of Dumb.

Does anyone in their right mind foolishly think that Obama of all people could convince the US to have a preemptive strike on Iran?

cman: Does anyone in their right mind foolishly think that Obama of all people could convince the US to have a preemptive strike on Iran?

The only reason Bush got away with Iraq was because of 9/11. No way anyone would have said 'do it' otherwise.

People are tired of offensive wars. Let Iran and Israel square off. Without our money or weapons or man power.

Nadie_AZ: cman: Does anyone in their right mind foolishly think that Obama of all people could convince the US to have a preemptive strike on Iran?

The only reason Bush got away with Iraq was because of 9/11. No way anyone would have said 'do it' otherwise.

People are tired of offensive wars. Let Iran and Israel square off. Without our money or weapons or man power.

9/11 wasnt the sole reason. The US had been pushing Saddam as the boogie man for years. Worked so well they even had pro-war marches.

cman: Does anyone in their right mind foolishly think that Obama of all people could convince the US to have a preemptive strike on Iran?

A friend of mine just came back from Abu Dhabi and he said unless something big happens to change the plan, we're going to do it.

NFA: cman: Does anyone in their right mind foolishly think that Obama of all people could convince the US to have a preemptive strike on Iran?

A friend of mine just came back from Abu Dhabi and he said unless something big happens to change the plan, we're going to do it.

I criticize Obama a lot, but even I am not that jaded to believe that he would do this. There is no way Obama will attack Iran. None.

EnviroDude: should be an interesting war. We just gave them our drone technology .

The drones are being replaced an a flock of seagulls.

I_Am_Weasel: EnviroDude: should be an interesting war. We just gave them our drone technology .

The drones are being replaced an a flock of seagulls.

What the hell, Weasel!?

Damned pigeon English.

cman: Does anyone in their right mind foolishly think that Obama of all people could convince the US to have a preemptive strike on Iran?

I think it more likely that Israel will start the war, then quickly get in over their heads and scream bloody murder for the USA to come bail 'em out.

If they're stealth aircraft, how do we know they're really there?

Or, you know, not so quietly.

It's not like the GOP has been begging for it for ye... wait, they've been begging for it for years.

also - I really don't want another war. it would be noisy. And I swear to f*cking god, if we have another war in the middle east I'm going to force the ENTIRE underclass of harvard and yale universities to enlist in the gotdamn infantry.

These are long planned deployments. The Raptor fleet is going to join the regular rotation of forward deployed air groups.

Air strikes seem highly unlikely to do anything. I want to say that despite a large number of "bunker busters" used, Saddam's bunkers survived the pounding.

Weaver95: also - I really don't want another war. it would be noisy. And I swear to f*cking god, if we have another war in the middle east I'm going to force the ENTIRE underclass of harvard and yale universities to enlist in the gotdamn infantry.

The market for starting unnecessary wars sure has boomed since the draft ended, hasn't it?

/just a little more risk-shifting from the wealthy... it's a tricklin' all over the place

NewportBarGuy: EnviroDude: get the popcorn ready young men, you are going to go to the Middle East (what better way to put unemployed graduates to work than to draft them for WWIV.

If I had my way we'd just send you... an Army of Dumb.

ha ha ha! sorry there NPG, but I aged out years ago. How about you?

/wonders how many farkers have registered for the draft and are "of age"

Nadie_AZ: cman: Does anyone in their right mind foolishly think that Obama of all people could convince the US to have a preemptive strike on Iran?

The only reason Bush got away with Iraq was because of 9/11. No way anyone would have said 'do it' otherwise.

People are tired of offensive wars. Let Iran and Israel square off. Without our money or weapons or man power.

There is a bit of daddies unfinished business, Iraq wise too....

Obama starting a war will piss off the people who vote for him and the people who won't vote for him still won't vote for him.

EnviroDude: ha ha ha! sorry there NPG, but I aged out years ago.


I'll grant you an age waiver. Go forth and become cannon fodder.

Why do I feel like if they were quietly doing something with stealth aircraft...we wouldn't know about it?

Weaver95: cman: Does anyone in their right mind foolishly think that Obama of all people could convince the US to have a preemptive strike on Iran?

I think it more likely that Israel will start the war, then quickly get in over their heads and scream bloody murder for the USA to come bail 'em out.

They haven't needed to do it in the past. And just what would Iran do to retaliate? Have Hezbollah fire a few more Katyushas?

Weaver95: cman: Does anyone in their right mind foolishly think that Obama of all people could convince the US to have a preemptive strike on Iran?

I think it more likely that Israel will start the war, then quickly get in over their heads and scream bloody murder for the USA to come bail 'em out.

Sounds about right.

Weaver95: I think it more likely that Israel will start the war, then quickly get in over their heads and scream bloody murder for the USA to come bail 'em out.

yeah, cause Israel has had a lot of trouble fighting wars in the past.

/eye roll

vygramul: Weaver95: cman: Does anyone in their right mind foolishly think that Obama of all people could convince the US to have a preemptive strike on Iran?

I think it more likely that Israel will start the war, then quickly get in over their heads and scream bloody murder for the USA to come bail 'em out.

They haven't needed to do it in the past. And just what would Iran do to retaliate? Have Hezbollah fire a few more Katyushas?

Iran had a larger army and a larger population than israel, don't they?

But Obama is the one - he would never get the US into a war that was none of its business.

He's all about Hope


and Change

I doubt any executive is capable of convincing the American people to support a pre-emptive war. However, I do think some sort of "Gulf of Tonkin" situation is possible, especially if some perceived small harm comes to either Israel or Saudi Arabia or both.

NFA: cman: Does anyone in their right mind foolishly think that Obama of all people could convince the US to have a preemptive strike on Iran?

A friend of mine just came back from Abu Dhabi and he said unless something big happens to change the plan, we're going to do it.

Does your friend work for the DoD or CIA or something? Otherwise I don't see what being in Abu Dhabi tells him about what's being planned/decided in Washington.

If we bomb Iran, oil is going to jump to $6 a gallon. That's NOT going to be good for Obama's re-election chances.

cman: Does anyone in their right mind foolishly think that Obama of all people could convince the US to have a preemptive strike on Iran?



you obviously didn't see the lame shiat three hour graphic that people bought to invade iraq, did you.

cameroncrazy1984: vygramul: Weaver95: cman: Does anyone in their right mind foolishly think that Obama of all people could convince the US to have a preemptive strike on Iran?

I think it more likely that Israel will start the war, then quickly get in over their heads and scream bloody murder for the USA to come bail 'em out.

They haven't needed to do it in the past. And just what would Iran do to retaliate? Have Hezbollah fire a few more Katyushas?

Iran had a larger army and a larger population than israel, don't they?

Israel would need help keeping the Sunnis back if Iran goes to war on them also. Plus America holding back Saudi Arabia and Syria I'd suspect.

Obama won't attack until after the election.

If he attacks Iran oil goes through the roof and his approval rating will crash through the cellar floor.

Worst secret attack ever.

GAT_00: Or, you know, not so quietly.

I see what you are doing

coco ebert: [www.ippnw-students.org image 330x295]

That graphic looks like something out of Risk.

Yeah, no.

I remember the original October surprise. That involved paying Iran to hold on to US hostages to win an election. Those guys - Reagan, Bush I - were also the ones who created bin Laden.

The guy who got bin Laden isn't playing that traitorous bullshiat.

I'll chock this up to the GOP raising war fears against Iran, only to find out that their own funders (Koch bros) do a lot of business there so it would be inconvenient to have a war for them, really, so now they are raising the possibility that actually putting the screws to Iran would be MOST IMPRUDENT (nah gah doit).

/oh, DNTRFA
// yeah, doin it and doin it well
/// don't want another war

cameroncrazy1984: vygramul: Weaver95: cman: Does anyone in their right mind foolishly think that Obama of all people could convince the US to have a preemptive strike on Iran?

I think it more likely that Israel will start the war, then quickly get in over their heads and scream bloody murder for the USA to come bail 'em out.

They haven't needed to do it in the past. And just what would Iran do to retaliate? Have Hezbollah fire a few more Katyushas?

Iran had a larger army and a larger population than israel, don't they?

Not much of a border though, and I doubt that Iraq is going to be very accomodating to the Iranian army rolling down their highways to get to Israel.

And Israel has better jets.

I_Am_Weasel: I_Am_Weasel: EnviroDude: should be an interesting war. We just gave them our drone technology .

The drones are being replaced an a flock of seagulls.

What the hell, Weasel!?

Damned pigeon English.

I think this has been foretold or something.

Link

But then again, what can't be foretold through weird 80's songs?

I hope so I'm tired of hearing about and I want it now live 24/7 on the tv screen, who bombed who, death tolls civilian body counts all the way till the big ballon goes up and thirty minutes later delivered like a hot crappy pizza we all get to rest.

99 red balloons

/Tired of the warmongering and just wish they'd do it.

NFA: A friend of mine just came back from Abu Dhabi and he said unless something big happens to change the plan, we're going to do it.

Well gee some anonymous internet guy who says he knows a guy who says he went to Abu Dhabi who says the US is invading Iran.

Sounds like ironclad proof to me.

The US has been surrounding Iran for years. Yet we wonder why they want to develop a nuclear defense.

Arkanaut: NFA: cman: Does anyone in their right mind foolishly think that Obama of all people could convince the US to have a preemptive strike on Iran?

A friend of mine just came back from Abu Dhabi and he said unless something big happens to change the plan, we're going to do it.

Does your friend work for the DoD or CIA or something? Otherwise I don't see what being in Abu Dhabi tells him about what's being planned/decided in Washington.

If we bomb Iran, oil is going to jump to $6 a gallon. That's NOT going to be good for Obama's re-election chances.

I agree it would be political suicide to go to war with Iran right now. However, if you watch the Pentagon Channel you'll see they are already telegraphing some troop movements into the area to places like Georgia.

There was another recent Fark article of dubious import stating that Russia is massing its own forces near its relevant borders in preparation for anything that goes down. Perhaps there is some connection (if this turns out to be true at all)

badhatharry: Worst secret attack ever.

sshhh, they won't know

Nadie_AZ: cman: Does anyone in their right mind foolishly think that Obama of all people could convince the US to have a preemptive strike on Iran?

The only reason Bush got away with Iraq was because of 9/11. No way anyone would have said 'do it' otherwise.

People are tired of offensive wars. Let Iran and Israel square off. Without our money or weapons or man power.

Well 9/11 wasn't the ONLY reason, don't forget that Clinton had tried(and failed) pushing congress to go to war with Iraq over violating the UN agreements back when he was trying to get the attention off of Monica, none of the Democrats in congress who had voted for war when Clinton wanted to could have voted against it when Bush wanted to and not have been called for it. Limbaugh, Faux News et cetera would have eviserated them over it.

So most of the Dems in Congress COULDN'T vote against the war(and be able to justify doing so) because they had voted for it 4 years earlier. So politics as usual had a lot to do with it.

Arkanaut: NFA: cman: Does anyone in their right mind foolishly think that Obama of all people could convince the US to have a preemptive strike on Iran?

A friend of mine just came back from Abu Dhabi and he said unless something big happens to change the plan, we're going to do it.

Does your friend work for the DoD or CIA or something? Otherwise I don't see what being in Abu Dhabi tells him about what's being planned/decided in Washington.



Exactly. If his friend knows, he wouldn't be telling otherwise he'd be violating OpSec. Therefore, I will have to assume that since his friend is telling, he doesn't know squat about anything.

Arkanaut: NFA: cman: Does anyone in their right mind foolishly think that Obama of all people could convince the US to have a preemptive strike on Iran?

A friend of mine just came back from Abu Dhabi and he said unless something big happens to change the plan, we're going to do it.

Does your friend work for the DoD or CIA or something? Otherwise I don't see what being in Abu Dhabi tells him about what's being planned/decided in Washington.

If we bomb Iran, oil is going to jump to $6 a gallon. That's NOT going to be good for Obama's re-election chances.

Only tool is a hammer, every problem's a nail, etc

/no disrespect to NFA's friend, but yeah

EnviroDude: should be an interesting war. We just gave them our drone technology and now we are going to bomb them from 30,000 feet until they nuke Israel.

get the popcorn ready young men, you are going to go to the Middle East (what better way to put unemployed graduates to work than to draft them for WWIV.

All while the cripples and criminals stay behind to make sweet, sweet love to all the ladies.