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   The Chukchi people near the Bering Sea utilize old school technology to store information: Elders. They not only still have words for mammoths, they still have hunting instructions and recipes for mammoth

29 Apr 2012 02:50 AM   |   4881 clicks   |   National Geographic
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WelldeadLink    [TotalFark]  
In order to continue study of this cultural heritage, it was necessary to clone a mammoth...

28 Apr 2012 08:48 PM
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kmmontandon     
Oh, look, more people in on the climate change conspiracy.

I wonder how much grant money they're getting to pretend to see the effects of global warming.

28 Apr 2012 08:52 PM
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Relatively Obscure    [TotalFark]  
Because if I made up shiat about how to hunt and cook mammoths, they'd totally know.

28 Apr 2012 09:12 PM
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RandomAxe    [TotalFark]  
It's news, but it's not rigorous, nor is it revolutionary. Some of the oral traditions of the Aborigines that are accurate (and which are known to have predated corroborating Western information) are at least 25k years old.

Oral traditions often contain both accurate and inaccurate historical information. Trouble is, it's generally very difficult, at best, to sort the accurate from the inaccurate.

It's a lossy storage method. But better than nothing, certainly.

28 Apr 2012 09:16 PM
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Bucky Katt    [TotalFark]  
Meh. Everyone knows mammoth is best prepared with olive oil and a red wine sauce.

28 Apr 2012 09:20 PM
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Marcus Aurelius    [TotalFark]  
Smaller mammals are tastier mammals.

Too bad about the oceans, though.

28 Apr 2012 09:30 PM
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Marcus Aurelius    [TotalFark]  
Bucky Katt: Meh. Everyone knows mammoth is best prepared with olive oil and a red wine sauce.

The biggest problem with nomadic tribal cooking above 66 degrees north is their definition of braising and poaching always includes maggots. Which is great, if you happen to like maggots.

28 Apr 2012 09:31 PM
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2wolves    [TotalFark]  
Marcus Aurelius: Smaller mammals are tastier mammals.

Too bad about the oceans, though.


How many t-bones on a mouse?

28 Apr 2012 09:32 PM
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DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke     
Flint Chef Noontok!

28 Apr 2012 09:38 PM
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xanadian    [TotalFark]  
kmmontandon: Oh, look, more people in on the climate change conspiracy.

I wonder how much grant money they're getting to pretend to see the effects of global warming.


They're reindeer herders. They're probably being paid off in ...eggnog. And tinsel. And those cute little shoes with the curly toes.

Think about it! If global warming IS real, what's gonna happen to Santa's workshop? Think of all the kids without presents come Xmas!

WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!??

...

/hic!

28 Apr 2012 09:44 PM
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vygramul    [TotalFark]  
kmmontandon: Oh, look, more people in on the climate change conspiracy.

I wonder how much grant money they're getting to pretend to see the effects of global warming.


And let's not forget that Mammoths are dinosaurs, and this proved people walked with dinosaurs.

28 Apr 2012 09:48 PM
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Shostie    [TotalFark]  
DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: Flint Chef Noontok!

Today's Flint Chef Secret Ingredient is: Snow!

...

Again...

28 Apr 2012 09:50 PM
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vygramul    [TotalFark]  
Shostie: DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: Flint Chef Noontok!

Today's Flint Chef Secret Ingredient is: Snow!

...

Again...


The Slush Battle was epic.

28 Apr 2012 09:51 PM
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doglover    [TotalFark]  
RandomAxe: It's a lossy storage method.

As opposed to 5.1" floppy, 3" floppy, zip drives, 8 track, MD, or audio tape?

28 Apr 2012 10:02 PM
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DamnYankees    [TotalFark]  
Relatively Obscure: Because if I made up shiat about how to hunt and cook mammoths, they'd totally know.

This.

28 Apr 2012 10:34 PM
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Confabulat    [TotalFark]  
Old people make shiat up. I'm sure it's the same in every culture.

28 Apr 2012 10:45 PM
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coco ebert    [TotalFark]  
Confabulat: Old people make shiat up. I'm sure it's the same in every culture.

That's why we have cultural anthropologists. They make sense of the lies. ;)

28 Apr 2012 10:50 PM
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mamoru    [TotalFark]  
submitter: utilize

It is impossible to use this stupid, farking pretentious asshat of a word without seeming like someone who is trying to sound smart but really isn't.

USE.

Yes, "utilize" may have a definite meaning that makes it the more correct word to use in some specific situations, but a.) I would argue that this is not one of them (elders are traditionally fountains of information, especially in tribal societies, so this is not an unorthodox use of them), and b.) there is not a single one of those situations where "use" works just as well, and "use" doesn't make it sound like the speaker is trying to cover up for his inadequacies.

/rant
//pet peeve :p

28 Apr 2012 10:52 PM
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mamoru    [TotalFark]  
mamoru: b.) there is not a single one of those situations where "use" doesn't work just as well, and "use" doesn't make it sound like the speaker is trying to cover up for his inadequacies.

FTFM.

28 Apr 2012 10:53 PM
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kmmontandon     
mamoru:
Yes, "utilize" may have a definite meaning that makes it the more correct word to use in some specific situations, but a.) I would argue that this is not one of them (elders are traditionally fountains of information, especially in tribal societies, so this is not an unorthodox use of them), and b.) there is not a single one of those situations where "use" works just as well, and "use" doesn't make it sound like the speaker is trying to cover up for his inadequacies.




Thank you, Master Elodin.

28 Apr 2012 10:55 PM
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coco ebert    [TotalFark]  
mamoru: submitter: utilize

It is impossible to use this stupid, farking pretentious asshat of a word without seeming like someone who is trying to sound smart but really isn't.

USE.

Yes, "utilize" may have a definite meaning that makes it the more correct word to use in some specific situations, but a.) I would argue that this is not one of them (elders are traditionally fountains of information, especially in tribal societies, so this is not an unorthodox use of them), and b.) there is not a single one of those situations where "use" works just as well, and "use" doesn't make it sound like the speaker is trying to cover up for his inadequacies.

/rant
//pet peeve :p


Ugh, same thing with "positionality" in social science. Why not just use "position"?

28 Apr 2012 10:58 PM
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vygramul    [TotalFark]  
coco ebert: mamoru: submitter: utilize

It is impossible to use this stupid, farking pretentious asshat of a word without seeming like someone who is trying to sound smart but really isn't.

USE.

Yes, "utilize" may have a definite meaning that makes it the more correct word to use in some specific situations, but a.) I would argue that this is not one of them (elders are traditionally fountains of information, especially in tribal societies, so this is not an unorthodox use of them), and b.) there is not a single one of those situations where "use" works just as well, and "use" doesn't make it sound like the speaker is trying to cover up for his inadequacies.

/rant
//pet peeve :p

Ugh, same thing with "positionality" in social science. Why not just use "position"?


Irrigardless: hopefully you resonated some knowings from your reading of the article.

28 Apr 2012 11:07 PM
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Shostie    [TotalFark]  
I'm going to utilize the positionality to proactivate my action statement.

28 Apr 2012 11:40 PM
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mamoru    [TotalFark]  
Shostie: I'm going to utilize the positionality to proactivate my action statement.

For a new paradigm shift?

28 Apr 2012 11:46 PM
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pleaseleavemebe    [TotalFark]  
Purple monkey dishwasher.

29 Apr 2012 01:57 AM
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Skyfrog     
doglover: RandomAxe: It's a lossy storage method.

As opposed to 5.1" floppy, 3" floppy, zip drives, 8 track, MD, or audio tape?


Floppy drives aren't lossy. They are unreliable though.

29 Apr 2012 03:00 AM
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Coelacanth     
They not only still have words for mammoths, they still have hunting instructions and recipes for mammoth

The last mammoth on this continent died about 13,000 years ago. My iPad needs troubleshooting every six weeks.

29 Apr 2012 03:02 AM
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Victoly     
Do they have to wear thirty-seven pieces of flair when they serve the mammoth?

29 Apr 2012 03:05 AM
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LewDux     
A Chukcha sits on the shore of the Bering Strait. An American submarine surfaces. The American captain opens the hatch and asks: "Which way is Alaska?" The Chukcha points his finger: "That way!" "Thanks!" says the American, shouts "South-South-East, bearing 159.5 degrees!" down the hatch and the submarine submerges. Ten minutes later a Soviet submarine emerges. The Russian captain opens the hatch and asks the Chukcha: "Where did the American submarine go?" The Chukcha replies: "South-South-East bearing 159.5 degrees!" "Don't be a smart-ass," says the captain, "just point your finger!"

29 Apr 2012 03:19 AM
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zerkalo     
aND Some people are still looking for MUHQMMED

29 Apr 2012 03:29 AM
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zerkalo     
MUHQMMED Atta

29 Apr 2012 03:32 AM
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Teknowaffle     
I guess they wrote the spot down.

29 Apr 2012 03:34 AM
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dang sure     
no humans till writing

what were those others

illiterates...

29 Apr 2012 03:52 AM
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LavenderWolf     
If we ever develop both A) FTL travel and B) Crazy-awesome super-duper long range high-resolution telescopes, it would be interesting to look back and see, actually see, a mammoth hunt.

29 Apr 2012 03:53 AM
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kyuzokai     
Teknowaffle: I guess they wrote the spot down.

Who knew Gary Larson was Chukcha?

29 Apr 2012 03:54 AM
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Khazar-Khum     
FTFA: "Our elders are the best source of information. Better than science or the internet," said Petr Kaurgin, a Chukchi reindeer herder from the remote Turvaurgin nomadic tribal community in north-eastern Siberia.

So why didn't the elders make the glasses you wear or the medicines you use?

29 Apr 2012 03:58 AM
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buckler     
LavenderWolf: If we ever develop both A) FTL travel and B) Crazy-awesome super-duper long range high-resolution telescopes, it would be interesting to look back and see, actually see, a mammoth hunt.

It probably wouldn't be very exciting, since mammoths typically hunted leaves, fruits and grasses.

29 Apr 2012 04:53 AM
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KiplingKat872     
...no X-Files reference? Fark, I am disappoint.

29 Apr 2012 05:10 AM
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haemaker    [TotalFark]  
mamoru: Shostie: I'm going to utilize the positionality to proactivate my action statement.

For a new paradigm shift?


With enhanced functionality.

29 Apr 2012 05:11 AM
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realityVSperception     
And the buggy whip makers of Westfield, Mass swallow hard, suck it up, and gird their loins, knowing that they only have to hang on for 10,000 more years before they hold the Guinness book record for the least useful skill known to mankind.

/And no, I'm not anywhere close to the record for the longest sentence...

29 Apr 2012 05:52 AM
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AbbeySomeone     
Marcus Aurelius: Bucky Katt: Meh. Everyone knows mammoth is best prepared with olive oil and a red wine sauce.

The biggest problem with nomadic tribal cooking above 66 degrees north is their definition of braising and poaching always includes maggots. Which is great, if you happen to like maggots.


Everyone knows that maggots are a highly nutritious delicacy.

29 Apr 2012 05:53 AM
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dyhchong    [TotalFark]  
I'm not finding it that hard to believe, when all you've seen over the last several millenia is snow and mammoths, how to cook mammoths would be common conversation. Except more recently it's just been snow, so they'd talk about when there were mammoths.

Do you know the story from two hundred years ago when Tuktuk tripped over and fell in the snow?

You do? *sigh*

29 Apr 2012 06:01 AM
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TheWalrus469     
haemaker: mamoru: Shostie: I'm going to utilize the positionality to proactivate my action statement.

For a new paradigm shift?

With enhanced functionality.


SYNERGIZE!

29 Apr 2012 06:19 AM
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jso2897     
kmmontandon: Oh, look, more people in on the climate change conspiracy.

I wonder how much grant money they're getting to pretend to see the effects of global warming.


Jillions of dollars. Climate researchers are all driving around in solid gold Bentleys, while oil company executives live in penury. Because, of course, there's NO money in lying about climate change in service of a multi-billion dollar industry.
(Note-it is acknowledged that above remark may result from a sarcasm meter malfunction).

29 Apr 2012 06:26 AM
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Honest Bender    [TotalFark]  
...I still have a word for mammoth. What's your point?

/It's "mammoth" in case you were wondering.

29 Apr 2012 06:31 AM
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AlanSmithee    [TotalFark]  
My mammoth is full of eels.

29 Apr 2012 06:58 AM
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Coelacanth     
AlanSmithee: My mammoth is full of eels.

I know a good veterinarian that can help you with that.

29 Apr 2012 07:33 AM
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tomWright     
2wolves: Marcus Aurelius: Smaller mammals are tastier mammals.

Too bad about the oceans, though.

How many t-bones on a mouse?


Only two, so you do need to eat about 100 at a time, but the upside is that they are really nice and crunchy

29 Apr 2012 07:50 AM
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rev. dave     
But do they have ways of dealing with the return of Cthulu and the other ancient ones?

29 Apr 2012 08:03 AM
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LazarusLong42     
kmmontandon: mamoru:
Yes, "utilize" may have a definite meaning that makes it the more correct word to use in some specific situations, but a.) I would argue that this is not one of them (elders are traditionally fountains of information, especially in tribal societies, so this is not an unorthodox use of them), and b.) there is not a single one of those situations where "use" works just as well, and "use" doesn't make it sound like the speaker is trying to cover up for his inadequacies.



Thank you, Master Elodin.


Oh, excellent reference. Shouldn't be obscure though.

29 Apr 2012 08:21 AM
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