Mikey1969: Man, what would happen if they had Pride week at the same time as St Patrick's Day? Have the parades down parallel streets?

No, that would be like dividing by zero, because you can't be Irish if you're gay.

Whitey is guilty over someone his grandparents/parents hated when they were just an idea in somebodies head? Color me shocked.

/white guilt is the funniest guilt

why is tribesman wallace venerated?

he always was an asshole publicly and privately

is it because he smoked pot?

vidal always was a hostile bitter queen

who preyed on prepubescent boys

his ability to type does not excuse this predation

They are attracted mostly to the anonymity of the big city - New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco. The permissiveness and the variety of the cities draw them.

Not quite.

They weren't so much drawn to the big cities because of "permissiveness" as they were forced out of small cities due to the high concentrations of hate and stupidity.

/See: 'Smalltown Boy' video by Bronski Beat for further details..

Nice to note that the current generation is more progressive and morally evolved than the preceeding ones.

Too bad a lot of regressive rtards keep trying to set the clock back to that time in the name of "Taking America Back".

Still, nice to see some classic Gore Vidal there.

Well, there was that one time with Col. Gentleman...

Godscrack: Cythraul: I can't really condemn him for this report.

I can.
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They knew exactly what they were doing.

The effects of this report has, and will continue to have a negative effect on innocent people just trying to live their own lives.

I havn't gotten to the end of the video yet, so I can't comment on what Wallace might say later. But at the time, these weren't comments by fringe bigots looking for a moment of TV fame. He was asking medical professionals about their opinion on what was considered a medical psychiatric disorder. At the time, schizophrenia and severe depression were considered disorders caused by childhood behavior, not genetic predisposition and neuro-chemistry imbalances. Sexual and gender disorders were all thought to be caused by behavior of the parents.

Would you condemn someone for expressing the belief that leaches cure everything when major medical knowledge at the time stated that as fact? It doesn't make it less wrong, it doesn't mean that the effect it had was not abhorrent and long lasting. But I can't fault someone reporting on what science considered fact at the time.

I can find fault with the psychiatric establishment that believed these facts and ignored everything else that did not fit established fact. But blame and condemnation I will reserve for the few individuals who were in positions to change psychiatric diagnosis procedures and did not, or who avoided facts that did not fit their preferred opinion. They avoided viewing the promiscuity of the time as a symptom of existing discrimination, and choose to see it as part of the disorder and even as a precursor to it. They chose to see the fashion changes of the time as homosexual takeover, and not also an extension of the women's rights movement and gender equality.

Now, should Wallace have seen that, and commented on it? Maybe. But I won't condemn a man who can't defend himself now for failing to notice what the experts of the day dismissed.

DECMATH: dv-ous: Sounds good to me.

Sounds like the anti-gay sermons I used to hear in "Church". Now I know where they got their material!

I pretty much looked at this and thought "yup, that's where the bigots' talking points come from".

/You have to feel sorry for that poor sap writing the article. I mean, he apparently honestly didn't ever stop and think how prejudiced he was being--imagine looking back and realizing that you helped create an entire wave of bigotry and hate crimes.
//This, children, is why getting an education and challenging your pre-existing notions is a very important thing.

GBLT folks are confused

They are attracted mostly to the anonymity of the big city - New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco. The permissiveness and the variety of the cities draw them.

Sounds accurate to me. I never heard of homosexuals flocking to Apalachicola or Peoria to hookup with other homosexuals back in the sixties and seventies.

There's a reason they picked San Francisco.

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They are attracted mostly to the anonymity of the big city - New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco. The permissiveness and the variety of the cities draw them.

Sounds accurate to me. I never heard of homosexuals flocking to Apalachicola or Peoria to hookup with other homosexuals back in the sixties and seventies.

There's a reason they picked San Francisco.

Yeah, they went to big cities for sex. It couldn't possibly be because large urban areas usually had populations of people who were generally more tolerant of others who are different, places where they could be themselves without having to worry about being hung from the nearest tree.

No, it couldn't have been that at all.

I'm going to quote a campy film called Priscilla, Queen of the Desert for ya. The context is a homosexual talking about ugly, closed-minded bigots that usually live in more rural parts of the world, "I wonder sometimes if that big ugly wall of suburbia is to keep them out, or us in."