1071 beers? That's breakfast and lunch. What's for dinner?

Only 1071?

And personal responsibility is officially dead.

sounds like suing the symptoms and not fixing the root cause

which, there may be many

Hey Subby, they are called Indian Reservations.

Someone get these natives some damn pot already.

WhippingBoy: And personal responsibility is officially dead.

Or genetic predisposition. Europeans had a thousand years to weed out many, but not all, of those who can not handle alcohol.

Old news is old.

WhippingBoy: And personal responsibility is officially dead.

Came here to say this. Unbelievable. Man, the lawsuits I could have - THE LIQUOR STORES SELL BOOZE SO IT'S THEIR FAULT I'M A DRUNK! THE 7-ELEVENS SELL CIGARETTES SO IT'S THEIR FAULT I'M A SMOKER! THE BAKERY SELLS SNACKY CAKES SO IT'S THEIR FAULT I'M FAT! (Actually I hate snacky cakes but hell, gotta blame it on something amirite? I couldn't bear to sue Chipotle or Taco Bell; gotta have that sweet, sweet faux-Mexican dog-food grade deliciousness.)

The_Sponge: Hey Subby, they are called Indian Reservations.

With that kind of consumption, they could rightly be called Preservations.

FTFA: One in four children born on the reservation suffers from fetal alcohol syndrome or fetal alcohol spectrum disorder, and the average life expectancy is estimated between 45 and 52 years - the shortest in the Northern Hemisphere except for Haiti, according to the lawsuit. The average U.S. life expectancy is 77.5 years.

Goddamn that's disheartening.

11 people, 4 beer stores. I like these stats.

WhippingBoy: And personal responsibility is officially dead.


IIRC, the city of Tacoma banned the sale of fortified wine in the downtown area. So what happened? A lot of the winos went out to the suburbs instead, which created more problems.

The underlying problem is situational depression which is best resolved by getting the fark off the reservation and doing something with your life.

What is not understood by most people is that Native Americans' bodies are not designed to metabolize alcohol like the rest of us. This is a segment of our "society" that has been left out, forgotten about, and whenever there are racial issues going on, the Native Americans "should suck it up and stop whining"...in reference to the Chief Wahoo of the Cleveland Indians, among other things. African Americans complain about Aunt Jemima, the Uncle Ben's logo, why is this ok? Why is there a double standard against the people our ancestors stole this country from and damned near exterminated on a level way worse than the Holocaust? Yes I'm heated and proud Cherokee/Italian American.

The tribe's attorney, Tom White, has said if the lawsuit is allowed to go forward, he also will argue Nebraska officials have failed to enforce their own laws by allowing beer sales that far surpass the amount that can be legally consumed.

dafuq?
they limit the amount an individual can consume?

red people problems

imdani2u: What is not understood by most people is that Native Americans' bodies are not designed to metabolize alcohol like the rest of us. This is a segment of our "society" that has been left out, forgotten about, and whenever there are racial issues going on, the Native Americans "should suck it up and stop whining"...in reference to the Chief Wahoo of the Cleveland Indians, among other things. African Americans complain about Aunt Jemima, the Uncle Ben's logo, why is this ok? Why is there a double standard against the people our ancestors stole this country from and damned near exterminated on a level way worse than the Holocaust? Yes I'm heated and proud Cherokee/Italian American.

welcome to history, assholes being assholes to other assholes

sure...blame everyone for your problems...the stores, the breweries, the distributors...not the alcohol fueled culture that is Indian reservation life...

/from WI originally
//lots of reservation
///drunks ALL over 'em

It's not like they're going to suddenly stop drinking, if they outlaw beer sales in that town they will simply drive to the next one.

imdani2u: What is not understood by most people is that Native Americans' bodies are not designed to metabolize alcohol like the rest of us. This is a segment of our "society" that has been left out, forgotten about, and whenever there are racial issues going on, the Native Americans "should suck it up and stop whining"...in reference to the Chief Wahoo of the Cleveland Indians, among other things. African Americans complain about Aunt Jemima, the Uncle Ben's logo, why is this ok? Why is there a double standard against the people our ancestors stole this country from and damned near exterminated on a level way worse than the Holocaust? Yes I'm heated and proud Cherokee/Italian American.

Citation please.

/also, there has been plenty of "outrage" against Indian mascots. Most NCAA schools have already changed those mascots, though FSU actually has the backing of the Seminole tribe.

ihatedumbpeople: sure...blame everyone for your problems...the stores, the breweries, the distributors...not the alcohol fueled culture that is Indian reservation life...

/from WI originally
//lots of reservation
///drunks ALL over 'em

er...reservation(s)

Fark.

The way crack and other drugs and gangs got into the reservations recently was through illegals moving in with women on the rez. They started making and selling and recruiting.

You either have casinos or drugs or both.

imdani2u: Why is there a double standard against the people our ancestors stole this country from and damned near exterminated on a level way worse than the Holocaust?

It's only bad when "They" do it.

ReapTheChaos: It's not like they're going to suddenly stop drinking, if they outlaw beer sales in that town they will simply drive to the next one.

sort of like having a dry county next to a wet county in Dallas Tx area

Ha, they got an episode of Gangland related to this tribe. I even remember the name because I watched it this weekend "Wild Boyz"

They don't sling dope, they sling booze to make their money. It's the poorest part of the states too.

It's a shining example of the treatment and the acceptance of the Native Americans. They got their land, albeit crappy land, and they're left alone. Sadly this is what has happened.

Who else knew the town without looking?

Pine Ridge is an amazing place all by itself -- some very good, some quite bad. But Whiteclay is unreal -- like driving through every cliche of a trashy, beat up Western town around. It's a dump, and it mostly exists to sell booze to Natives. I don't blame the Rez for wanting sales banned, but I don't know how they can do anything legal about it.

The movie "Skins" was good, but it cleaned up Whiteclay quite a bit.

So, those drunks are stealing the natives' beer? Time to go on the warpath!

imdani2u: Yes I'm heated and proud Cherokee/Italian American.


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red people problems

The fact that this made me laugh makes me

And I thought you wanted to be treated like a "Sovereign Nation." If you can't handle alcohol and want the government to take care of the problem for you, then you are not responsible enough for tribal police, tribal government, you no longer get to administor tribal land, and you certainly don't get to run that casino.

What good will it do to sue the beers?

imdani2u: Why is there a double standard against the people our ancestors stole this country from and damned near exterminated on a level way worse than the Holocaust?

Honestly? Because there aren't very many Native Americans relative to other ethnic groups, and thus they aren't visible. Which I agree sucks.

McManus_brothers

>>> FTFA: One in four children born on the reservation suffers
>>> from fetal alcohol syndrome or fetal alcohol spectrum
>>> disorder, and the average life expectancy is estimated
>>> between 45 and 52 years - the shortest in the Northern
>>> Hemisphere except for Haiti, according to the lawsuit. The
>>> average U.S. life expectancy is 77.5 years.

Goddamn that's disheartening liver-ing.

FiFY

Mog32Kupo: They got their land, albeit crappy land, and they're left alone.

Please research what the B.I.A. has done to and stolen from the sovereign nations and get back to me.

imdani2u: What is not understood by most people is that Native Americans' bodies are not designed to metabolize alcohol like the rest of us. This is a segment of our "society" that has been left out, forgotten about, and whenever there are racial issues going on, the Native Americans "should suck it up and stop whining"...in reference to the Chief Wahoo of the Cleveland Indians, among other things. African Americans complain about Aunt Jemima, the Uncle Ben's logo, why is this ok? Why is there a double standard against the people our ancestors stole this country from and damned near exterminated on a level way worse than the Holocaust? Yes I'm heated and proud Cherokee/Italian American.

imdani2u: What is not understood by most people is that Native Americans' bodies are not designed to metabolize alcohol like the rest of us. This is a segment of our "society" that has been left out, forgotten about, and whenever there are racial issues going on, the Native Americans "should suck it up and stop whining"...in reference to the Chief Wahoo of the Cleveland Indians, among other things. African Americans complain about Aunt Jemima, the Uncle Ben's logo, why is this ok? Why is there a double standard against the people our ancestors stole this country from and damned near exterminated on a level way worse than the Holocaust? Yes I'm heated and proud Cherokee/Italian American a troll.

FTFY

2wolves: Mog32Kupo: They got their land, albeit crappy land, and they're left alone.

Please research what the B.I.A. has done to and stolen from the sovereign nations and get back to me.

Mog32Kupo: Ha, they got an episode of Gangland related to this tribe. I even remember the name because I watched it this weekend "Wild Boyz"

They don't sling dope, they sling booze to make their money. It's the poorest part of the states too.

It's a shining example of the treatment and the acceptance of the Native Americans. They got their land, albeit crappy land, and they're left alone. Sadly this is what has happened.

Actually, the native peoples in Arizona got some of the best land. I'm pretty sure they're going to end up ruining through development and mining, etc. but I have wonderful memories of walking in places that hadn't been logged and mined. I really miss the wind in the pines, the smells of wildflowers, cold mountian river water, being buzzed by countless hummingbirds, being chased by bear and mountain lion.

This is why I won't be voting for Elizabeth Warren against Scott Brown. Native Americans seem to have some trouble with impulse control.

2wolves: Please research what the B.I.A. has done to and stolen from the sovereign nations and get back to me.

forgot I can't make broad statements on Fark

lawl

Personal responsibility, how does it work?

imdani2u: What is not understood by most people is that Native Americans' bodies are not designed to metabolize alcohol like the rest of us. This is a segment of our "society" that has been left out, forgotten about, and whenever there are racial issues going on, the Native Americans "should suck it up and stop whining"...in reference to the Chief Wahoo of the Cleveland Indians, among other things. African Americans complain about Aunt Jemima, the Uncle Ben's logo, why is this ok? Why is there a double standard against the people our ancestors stole this country from and damned near exterminated on a level way worse than the Holocaust? Yes I'm heated and proud Cherokee/Italian American.

I ain't too pleased with Lucky the Leprochaun or that little Notre Dame farker either; they portray the Irish as greedy idiots who want to do nothing but fight. And don't forget about NINA! Alas, all we can do is drown our shame in whiskey and beer, and then punch people in the face when they talk shiat about our lucky charms.

imdani2u: What is not understood by most people is that Native Americans' bodies are not designed to metabolize alcohol like the rest of us.

Asians can't metabolize lactose, so they miss out on milkshakes. They don't try to ban milk anywhere near China Town. The solution is to avoid the completely optional foods that don't agree with your physiology.

WhippingBoy: And personal responsibility is officially dead.

Came here to say this. Was beaten to the punch. Decided to repeat the sentiment, just for effect.

imdani2u: ... the Native Americans "should suck it up and stop whining"...

...is not what those of us in the "WTF happened to personal responsibility?" camp are saying. We're saying that you can't sue (souix?) your way to sobriety. Don't want the stores there? STOP BUYING FROM THEM!!!! They'll go out of business Problem solved.

An ex of mine was full blood Haida, she was a big drunk. I would have to lock up my booze to stop her.

2wolves: Please research what the B.I.A. has done to and stolen from the sovereign nations and get back to me.

if taken that seriously that's a long project, you may want to select a century

CruJones: Most NCAA schools have already changed those mascots,


Stanford: Hey, let's get rid of our Indian mascot and replace with with a tree that has Down Syndrome.

2wolves: WhippingBoy: And personal responsibility is officially dead.

Or genetic predisposition. Europeans had a thousand years to weed out many, but not all, of those who can not handle alcohol.

You have a genetic predisposition to obesity, heart disease, and type 2 diabetes. Feel free to down a deep fried cheesecake for breakfast every morning because it's not your fault - it's your destiny.