Bull. I've been drinking the things like water for years, and I've never had a single cavity. Ever.


My sample size of 1 is all I need, dammit.

Scientists tested the effect of the acidity levels by submerging samples of human tooth enamel in each beverage for 15 minutes and then dipping the enamel samples in artificial saliva for two hours. The process was repeated four times a day for five days, and enamel samples were stored in fresh artificial saliva all other times.

One of my favorite hobbies is to keep a large amount of Red Bull continuously in my mouth for up to an hour. That's usually the time needed before a stranger stops me to ask for the time, and I Rain Bird the aforementioned Red Bull all over them without warning. It's the closest I can come to being a mythical dragon breathing fire at adventurers that disturb my horde of treasure.

But after reading this study, I don't think I'm going to do that anymore.

Um... brush your teeth once in a while?

FloydA: Um... brush your teeth once in a while?

The My Little Pony Killer: FloydA: Um... brush your teeth once in a while?

I'm so glad they (Coca-Cola) canned (har) VitaminEnergy. Best way to keep it away from me.

Liquid crack in a bottle.

But, but ... capitalism. Free markets. Blah, blah.

FloydA: Um... brush your teeth once in a while?

The biatch of it is, if you brush your teeth shortly after you just weakened your enamel... you are brushing off layers.

From my cold, dead hands....

a) so don't drink 4 or 5 a day - that's terrible for you in every way.
b) brush your teeth
c) why don't we just have a simple mechanism for putting enamel back on teeth already? Seems like it would be really simple.

didn't they do this experiment 50 years ago with coke?

Couldn't you like drink something to counter this effect?

Was waiting for them to explain the ingredient which does this, and since they didn't mention any, i'm assuming it's the same plain old refined sugar in any soda.

So, news flash: sugar still rots your teeth.

Does this include sugar free red bull? Or just regular red bull?

FloydA: Um... brush your teeth once in a while?

That can actually make things worse according to the article. Which, by the way, was a rather useless study because it didn't compare energy drinks to any other common acidic beverages like regular pop/soda/coke or fruit juices.

pdrake: didn't they do this experiment 50 years ago with coke?

Yeah, it permanently damages your nostrils.

Cheery Pi: Does this include sugar free red bull? Or just regular red bull?

I'd assume the acid content is the same in both, but who knows. You can buy a litmus paper set and test it.

It's got electrolytes- it's what plants crave.

Skr: FloydA: Um... brush your teeth once in a while?

The biatch of it is, if you brush your teeth shortly after you just weakened your enamel... you are brushing off layers.



What brushing off a layer might look like.

killro: From my cold, dead hands....

This!

Apparently, there's an ingredient they can add to drinking water to combat tooth decay but it turns people into homosexual communists.

FloydA~

snort on kybd

Who exposes their teeth to energy drink for fifteen farking minutes at a stretch?! Takes me maybe five to finish one Red Bull, and that's if I'm nursing it.

What, are we expected to sit and savor the fine floral and fruit notes with each sip? Rolling the sugar water around our tongue while occasionally swishing it through our teeth?

Christ. It's caffeinated sugar water with extra bile. Drink it and be done.

I tried a redbull once. It was disgusting, like drinking a can of liquid smarties.

The only energy drink I'll ever need

Kuroshin: Who exposes their teeth to energy drink for fifteen farking minutes at a stretch?! Takes me maybe five to finish one Red Bull, and that's if I'm nursing it.

What, are we expected to sit and savor the fine floral and fruit notes with each sip? Rolling the sugar water around our tongue while occasionally swishing it through our teeth?

Christ. It's caffeinated sugar water with extra bile. Drink it and be done.

Not that I'm an energy drink drinker, but don't most people pound the fark out of their energy drinks?

Meh, whatever. I drink mine so fast it barely touches my tongue on its way down.

Point02GPA: Couldn't you like drink something to counter this effect?

Sure. Well, not so much drink. Chew antacids immediately after chugging the Red Bull; the stuff is designed to neutralize acid. In a pinch, just mix baking soda with water and gargle with it.

I don't do that anymore though. I wuss out and only have Red Bull with ice, food and water (on the side), which massively dilutes the effects of the acid. I'll typically drink twice as much water as any Red Bull I consume. Thing is, if you're prepping your body for some intensive activity, this is all shiat your body wants anyway. I'm not 20 anymore, so properly preparing my body for exertion goes a lot farther than just riding a raw caffeine high.

Cagey B: Scientists tested the effect of the acidity levels by submerging samples of human tooth enamel in each beverage for 15 minutes and then dipping the enamel samples in artificial saliva for two hours. The process was repeated four times a day for five days, and enamel samples were stored in fresh artificial saliva all other times.

One of my favorite hobbies is to keep a large amount of Red Bull continuously in my mouth for up to an hour. That's usually the time needed before a stranger stops me to ask for the time, and I Rain Bird the aforementioned Red Bull all over them without warning. It's the closest I can come to being a mythical dragon breathing fire at adventurers that disturb my horde of treasure.

But after reading this study, I don't think I'm going to do that anymore.

I heart you. And I didn't even check your profile to see if I am gay now or not.

/nttawwt

FloydA: pdrake: didn't they do this experiment 50 years ago with coke?

Yeah, it permanently damages your nostrils.

But it's so much more fun.

A research group (two dental kids) in my achem course just did a research study that looked at the metals in extracted teeth as compared to age. In order to 'wash' the teeth of organics, it required a 15 minute hot bath in 70% nitric acid (note, at 86% HNO3 this stuff is aptly named "FUMING nitric acid") just to get the crap off the edges. This is the kinda stuff that causes third degree burns just with skin contact. Yet your teeth are plenty safe. When they actually went to dissolve the teeth, it required a full 24 hours in 30% nitric acid in the 90° C hot bath to get (most) of the teeth into solution. And these were farking kids from Ecuador with pre-rotten teeth.... not the fluoride infused teeth of the 1st world countries.

Anyways, back to non-elitist rants...

So let me check, it's another 'how the hell did this get funded' thread, right? Ah, classic, tooth decay, let's see if this one fits the bill:

☑ Obvious-result study is investigated
☑ Research group referred to with pronoun "Scientist(s)"
☑ Study approached like a group of undergraduate students looking to get an "A" on their final lab report in general chemistry/biology
☑ Immerse non-controlled biological sample in a condition not biologically feasible
☑ Do not apply any real-life scenarios outside of non-controlled radical inane situation
☑ Drag implications far beyond reason
☑ State obvious conclusion
☑ Link with common misconception
☑ Notify media of 'scientific revolution from experts'

/acid, how does it work?
//sure as hell isn't what's decaying your teeth
///it's called bacteria
////they like the sugar, not the acid
//form biofilms and feed off your shiatty food, excrete their own concentrated acids directly onto your teeth
//so rinse your farking teeth with water after sugary meals
//floss and brush at least every 12 hours (in that order)
//first world problems
//slaaaaaashieeeeees

FloydA

Giggling and guffawing as I ride the train home and getting odd looks from fellow passengers. Thanks for that.

=D

ecmoRandomNumbers: FloydA: pdrake: didn't they do this experiment 50 years ago with coke?

Yeah, it permanently damages your nostrils.

But it's so much more fun.

/I'll stop drinking it when you pry it from the hands that share the body with my black, rotten, holy, teeth
//Nothing gets you sobered up enough to drink more than this.

I get it, energy drinks leave you so wired you grind your teeth.

Since when is Red Bull a "sports drink"?

Wait, what? Why are the acid levels so high in "energy" drinks? Is it something they are adding for energy or what?

vodka: Wait, what? Why are the acid levels so high in "energy" drinks? Is it something they are adding for energy or what?

They aren't.
pH ranges for all sodas are in the low 3's/2's. But that, in fact, isn't what's destroying your teeth. It's all the sugar in your drink, which doesn't only last for the time you drink it, but if not washed out (swish teeth with a couple sips of water), the sugar will literally coat your teeth. Bacteria, which naturally form biofilms on your teeth, do what they do best. They eat the sugar, making more bacteria, and also ferment acids directly into your exposed teeth (beneath the biofilms, protected from your saliva), concentrating the acids and then dissolving your pearly whites.

The worst part is, the farther they dissolve in, the more cracks, etc, the more they will be able to literally 'hang on' in those biofilms.
This is why flossing, then brushing after, is so important.

vodka: Wait, what? Why are the acid levels so high in "energy" drinks?

Conspicuously absent from the article: any statement of the actual levels of acidity in any of these drinks. Sure it's nice to know that "acidity levels varied widely between brands as well as flavors of the same brand", but would it kill them to attach some pH numbers to that range?

interesting list of pH value of various drinks http://www.21stcenturydental.com/smit h/pH_drinks.htm

I look at a big can of lo-carb monster (my favorite) like I look at a big bottle of good vodak-
drink the whole thing and it'll kill you. drink it in small moderation and it's a good thing.
couple swallows of monster works great for the morning kick and a big can lasts a whole
7-day week- couple shots in a martini or two (three?) makes the bottle last a week or two.

How is the thickness of tooth enamel measured?

FloydA: Skr: FloydA: Um... brush your teeth once in a while?

The biatch of it is, if you brush your teeth shortly after you just weakened your enamel... you are brushing off layers.

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What brushing off a layer might look like.

No way....

/f'in' brilliant.

20/20: How is the thickness of tooth enamel measured?

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Had a tooth break today. Been drinking 3 a day for years now. Before that it was 2 for years.

They don't taste like cans o swine. Who would have guessed. Guess I learned the hard way.