"The Heartland Institute knew this was a risk when deciding to test it, but decided it was a necessary price to make an emotional appeal to people who otherwise aren't following the climate change debate"

Well, if your argument can't stand on facts, you can always take the emotional appeal route.

Ken Caldeira, a prominent climate scientist at Stanford University, said, "Putting up these billboards is an act of desperation. They are unable to argue based on facts."

That pretty much nails it.

But they have a weatherman on their side!

Wot's the name o

f the Logical fallacy...not tu quoque but related...the "You know who else believed....X"?


This is pants-on-head retarded even for Heartland Institute

Obviously the guy just wants to play the political angle because you don't attract people interested in discussion with troll bait like that. Science is too hard and uses big words ans stuff so why waste time on the subject.

Isn't "Dickland Institute" already taken?

Subby your headline is one of the best I have read on Fark in awhile.

You know who else cared about the environment?

The Green Nazis: Environmentalism in the Third Reich

/godwinned

Corporate Self: The Green Nazis

Snazis.

/old joke nobody remembers.

Out of pants shiatting curiosity...

In announcing the ad campaign on its Web site, the Heartland Institute said it was also going to deploy images of Charles Manson, "tyrant" Fidel Castro and Osama bin Laden in future billboards.

Did anyone of those people actually even come out in support of man made global warming?

Might as well get this out of the way.

The Heartland Institute knew this was a risk when deciding to test it, but decided it was a necessary price to make an emotional appeal to people who otherwise aren't following the climate change debate," Bast wrote in an e-mail to some of the institute's supporters, explaining his decision to end the campaign.

Test it? Unabomber?

In announcing the ad campaign on its Web site, the Heartland Institute said it was also going to deploy images of Charles Manson, "tyrant" Fidel Castro and Osama bin Laden in future billboards.

Deploy?

/moar tax cuts!

The Heartland Institute does not disclose its funding sources. According to its brochures, the Heartland Institute receives money from approximately 1,600 individuals and organizations, and no single corporate entity donates more than 5% of the operating budget,[30] although the figure for individual donors can be much higher, with a single anonymous donor providing $4.6 million in 2008, and $979,000 in 2011, accounting for 20% of Heartland's overall budget, according to reports of a leaked fundraising plan. [31]Heartland states that it does not accept government funds and does not conduct contract research for special-interest groups.[32]

MediaTransparency reported that the Heartland Institute received funding from politically conservative foundations such as the Castle Rock Foundation, the Sarah Scaife Foundation, the John M. Olin Foundation, and the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation.[33] In 2011, the Institute received $25,000 from the Charles G. Koch Foundation.[12] The Charles Koch Foundation states that the contribution was "$25,000 to the Heartland Institute in 2011 for research in healthcare, not climate change, and this was the first and only donation the Foundation made to the institute in more than a decade". [34]

Oil and gas companies have contributed to the Heartland Institute, including over $600,000 from ExxonMobil between 1998 and 2005.[35] Greenpeace reported that the Heartland Institute received almost $800,000 from ExxonMobil.[19] In 2008, ExxonMobil said that they would stop funding to groups skeptical of climate warming, including Heartland.[35][36][37] Joseph Bast, president of the Heartland Institute, argued that ExxonMobil was simply distancing itself from Heartland out of concern for its public image.[35]

The Heartland Institute has also received funding and support from tobacco companies Philip Morris,[23] Altria and Reynolds American, and pharmaceutical industry firms GlaxoSmithKline, Pfizer and Eli Lilly.[31] The Independent reported that Heartland's receipt of donations from Exxon and Philip Morris indicates a "direct link"..."between anti-global warming sceptics funded by the oil industry and the opponents of the scientific evidence showing that passive smoking can damage people's health."[8]

As of 2006, the Walton Family Foundation (run by the family of the founder of Wal-Mart) had contributed approximately $300,000 to the Heartland Institute. The Heartland Institute published an op-ed in the Louisville Courier-Journal defending Wal-Mart against criticism over its treatment of workers. The Walton Family Foundation donations were not disclosed in the op-ed, and the editor of the Courier-Journal stated that he was unaware of the connection and would probably not have published the op-ed had he known of it.[38] The St. Petersburg Times described the Heartland Institute as "particularly energetic defending Wal-Mart."[38] Heartland has stated that its authors were not "paid to defend Wal-Mart" and did not receive funding from the corporation; it did not disclose the $300,000+ received from the Walton Family Foundation.[38]

Corporate Self: You know who else cared about the environment?

The Green Nazis: Environmentalism in the Third Reich

/godwinned

Someday people are going to grow up and remember that the Nazis did things that weren't the holocaust. Just because they did monstrous things doesn't mean that sustainable forestry is a bad idea.

on an electronic billboard along the Eisenhower Expressway

You know who else believed in building expressways?

Magorn: Wot's the name of the Logical fallacy...not tu quoque but related...the "You know who else believed....X"?


This is pants-on-head retarded even for Heartland Institute

Argument from/Guilt by Association.

Satanic_Hamster: Out of pants shiatting curiosity...

In announcing the ad campaign on its Web site, the Heartland Institute said it was also going to deploy images of Charles Manson, "tyrant" Fidel Castro and Osama bin Laden in future billboards.

Did anyone of those people actually even come out in support of man made global warming?

I just tried to Google Fidel Castro and global warming and all that came up was hits about this story. But with Cuba being an Island Castro is probably concerned about global warming, most island countries are.

A logical response to such an advertisement would be another advertisement displaying an image of Osama bin Laden and featuring the caption "I disapproved of homosexuality. Do you?"

Farker Soze: on an electronic billboard along the Eisenhower Expressway

You know who else believed in building expressways?

US concrete and steel?

Mitt Romney wants to cut income tax rates.

North Korea has no income tax.

Therefore, Mitt Romney = Kim Il Sung/Kim Jong Il/Kim Jong Un.

Barack Obama wants to increase the top income tax rate.

Ronald Reagan signed increases in the income tax.

Therefore, Barack Obama = Ronald Reagan.

Why are Republicans supporting a Stalinist, rather than a Reaganist?

HMS_Blinkin: Corporate Self: You know who else cared about the environment?

The Green Nazis: Environmentalism in the Third Reich

/godwinned

Someday people are going to grow up and remember that the Nazis did things that weren't the holocaust. Just because they did monstrous things doesn't mean that sustainable forestry is a bad idea.

Someday ...

HMS_Blinkin: Corporate Self: You know who else cared about the environment?

The Green Nazis: Environmentalism in the Third Reich

/godwinned

Someday people are going to grow up and remember that the Nazis did things that weren't the holocaust. Just because they did monstrous things doesn't mean that sustainable forestry is a bad idea.

I'd just as soon sustainable forestry was not linked in any positive way to the Nazis, thanks.

Gyrfalcon: HMS_Blinkin: Corporate Self: You know who else cared about the environment?

The Green Nazis: Environmentalism in the Third Reich

/godwinned

Someday people are going to grow up and remember that the Nazis did things that weren't the holocaust. Just because they did monstrous things doesn't mean that sustainable forestry is a bad idea.

I'd just as soon sustainable forestry was not linked in any positive way to the Nazis, thanks.

Why stop at forestry?

Let's scrap the interstate highway system and the space program, for starters. And, for fark's sake, no Volkswagens.

Just because something has an origin in 1933-1945 Germany doesn't make it intrinsically evil.

Well, thank god at least that Al Gore is still overweight and owns multiple houses. Couple years back I was in El Salvador and they had these bus stop ads for a lo-jack device that prominently featured Osama Bin Laden's face with "Find what you're looking for" or words to that effect. I laughed.

Hitler was also a vegan and didn't smoke. Does that mean smoking bans and daring to eat one meal without meat in it are anti-American?

So basically the Heartland Institute is admitting that even delusional psychopaths have a better grip on reality?

Gyrfalcon: HMS_Blinkin: Corporate Self: You know who else cared about the environment?

The Green Nazis: Environmentalism in the Third Reich

/godwinned

Someday people are going to grow up and remember that the Nazis did things that weren't the holocaust. Just because they did monstrous things doesn't mean that sustainable forestry is a bad idea.

I'd just as soon sustainable forestry was not linked in any positive way to the Nazis, thanks.

Nazi link

This thread doesn't lend itself to trolling. WTF?

lockers: This thread doesn't lend itself to trolling. WTF?

Maybe the trolls spent themselves in the Ted Nugent thread from earlier today.

Rep. F. James Sensenbrenner Jr. (R-Wis.), scheduled to headline the Heartland Institute's annual conclave

Sensenbrenner will go down in history as a politician with a lot of promise that lost his mind over a few suitcases full of cash.

Sad, really. Your legacy will be as a craven corportocratist that couldn't suck enough multinational cock, James. Someone should put that on your tombstone.

rufus-t-firefly: lockers: This thread doesn't lend itself to trolling. WTF?

Maybe the trolls spent themselves in the Ted Nugent thread from earlier today.

Did you check out the global warming wonder thread. It was a masterpiece of dipshiattery and sock puppetry. It had them rolling for miles. My guess is the mods/trolls are on a coffee break.

themindiswatching: Hitler was also a vegan and didn't smoke. Does that mean smoking bans and daring to eat one meal without meat in it are anti-American?

Well, the second one, yes, but not because of Hitler.

Satanic_Hamster: Out of pants shiatting curiosity...

In announcing the ad campaign on its Web site, the Heartland Institute said it was also going to deploy images of Charles Manson, "tyrant" Fidel Castro and Osama bin Laden in future billboards.

Did anyone of those people actually even come out in support of man made global warming?

Does it matter? If you want to paint anyone who disagrees with you as murdering sociopaths, you don't really care much for facts.

lockers: This thread doesn't lend itself to trolling. WTF?

Perhaps the trolls are all in this thread from earlier today about this.

in b4 FATHER OF CLIMATOLOGY

This may be the alcohol talking, but I think one day it would be awesome if someone made another holocaust and completely eliminated all taxes. Then we could go "HEY, YOU, CONSERVATOIDS, LOOK AT MISTER SUCH AND SUCH HOLOCAUSTERIZER, HE CUT TAXES!!! YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO BE A HOLOCAUSTERIZER LIKE HIM NOW WOULD YOU?!!!"


or not awesome. IDK. I've had too much to drunk. Kthxbie.

wooooow. I should deleete that. One day an important political person may see it and claim I'm a nazi. CAN'T HAVE THAT NOW CAN WE.

qorkfiend: in b4 FATHER OF CLIMATOLOGY

I think he punched out for the evening.

themindiswatching: Hitler was also a vegan and didn't smoke. Does that mean smoking bans and daring to eat one meal without meat in it are anti-American?

He was also apparently quite nice to his dog. So beat your dog or you're a Nazi! Or something.

And I'll just leave this here again:

Battle Fatigue?
Bullshiat
/sorry, I'm suffering from battle fatigue
//veteran of many keyboard massacres
/// once had a coffee maker not work for 2 mornings in a row!!

DeaH: Does it matter? If you want to paint anyone who disagrees with you as murdering sociopaths, you don't really care much for facts.

Oh, I know. Still curious just how crack inspired they are.

If you'd actually read some of Teddy K's stuff you'd know he's right right right wing.

I mean... Living in a cabin in the woods...

whither_apophis: Farker Soze: on an electronic billboard along the Eisenhower Expressway

You know who else believed in building expressways?

US concrete and steel?

Vogons.

I remember 2004 so well, when a large majority of people in this country had that "accept what I say or DIE YOU FARKING TRAITOR SCUM" derpality.

"The Heartland Institute knew this was a risk when deciding to test it, but decided it was a necessary price to make an emotional appeal to people who otherwise aren't following the climate change debate buying into our lies and bullshiat,"

accuracy

Headline made me think of

Marcus Aurelius: Sensenbrenner will go down in history as a politician with a lot of promise that lost his mind over a few suitcases full of cash

That pretty much describes most of his constituents too.

themindiswatching: Hitler was also a vegan and didn't smoke. Does that mean smoking bans and daring to eat one meal without meat in it are anti-American?

themindiswatching: Hitler was also a vegan and didn't smoke. Does that mean smoking bans and daring to eat one meal without meat in it are anti-American?

Along with the interstate highway system.