It is human nature for one to fear what is different. This is built within our genes as a self-defense mechanism. Unfortunately, when we evolved the ability to have abstract thought, this ancient instinct still does a lot of times overcome intelectual enlightenment.

cman: It is human nature for one to fear what is different. This is built within our genes as a self-defense mechanism. Unfortunately, when we evolved the ability to have abstract thought, this ancient instinct did not alter itself to be less prominent to our intelectual enlightenment.


Wow, did I fark that up. FTFM

"For instance, one high scorer on the honor scale suggested that the only way to deal with radical Muslims is to use nuclear force, paying no mind to collateral damage," explains researcher Collin Barnes. Protecting honor is apparently worth nuclear warfare."

This reminds me of the scenario presented in The Authoritarians where far right wing people decided that nuclear war was the best answer to anything.

"Hand washing Really Works"? Hard hitting journalism, folks.

m3000: "For instance, one high scorer on the honor scale suggested that the only way to deal with radical Muslims is to use nuclear force, paying no mind to collateral damage," explains researcher Collin Barnes. Protecting honor is apparently worth nuclear warfare."

This reminds me of the scenario presented in The Authoritarians where far right wing people decided that nuclear war was the best answer to anything.

IIRC, within the simulation, the liberal participants created a stable global state that was prosperous, equitable and peaceful, and the right-wing authoritarians consistently destroyed the world in record time.

buckler: "Hand washing Really Works"? Hard hitting journalism, folks.

No kidding.

I was expecting one of them to be "Breathing in leads to breathing out."

what a stupid article/submission.

it's like 4 repeat articles all rolled up into 1.

/old news is so exciting (x4)

I think my daughter maybe racist after this event.

Driving down the road and daughter sees a person driving a bus that is pulled up along side us.

Daughters comment - Mum there's a monkey driving the bus.


Mum - It's not a monkey it is a person.


No one in my family or myself has referred to certain races as monkeys and no one speaks down about any race. I don't know if she has heard this from crèche but I hope not.

FTA: "But at just 9 months old, babies showed biases in facial recognition. They aren't born with these biases, but by that age, babies were better able to recognize faces and emotional expressions of people of their race."

The ability to recognize faces better based on skin color isn't "racist". There's no superiority linked to that.

Wow, what a bad article. First off, we've know for years that babies' fusiform gyrus and empathetic capabilities are developed through repeated exposure to facial expressions from their parents. It follows, then, that they will have an easier time recognizing the faces and expressions of someone who looks more like their parents do. That doesn't make them racist, it means their brains are still developing and learning that there ARE different races. Secondly, Semmelweis and Pasteur are both spinning in their respective graves that you're STILL touting the hand-washing thing as if it were a new discovery. Thirdly, you mean kids who haven't spent 20 years working and earning savings can't just pull money out of their asses?! Get outta town! And fourthly... no shiat, sherlock. Seriously stupid article.

Guest: I think my daughter maybe racist after this event.

Driving down the road and daughter sees a person driving a bus that is pulled up along side us.

Daughters comment - Mum there's a monkey driving the bus.


Mum - It's not a monkey it is a person.


No one in my family or myself has referred to certain races as monkeys and no one speaks down about any race. I don't know if she has heard this from crèche but I hope not.

How much has she been exposed to different races, if I might ask? If you guys live in a white bread town, this is just a form of seeing something new and different, not understanding it, and using knowledge that she DOES possess (I'm sure she's learned all about animals) in an attempt to make sense of it. If she's been exposed to other races... she heard it from someone. And if I were you, I'd find out from whom.

Daughter's understanding of evolution is remarkable for one so young.

Kudos to your refinement and grasp of contemporary mores to polite things all up.

Yeah, the standards continue to fall in academia, it's a game of pretend you didn't notice the facts.

In other words, racists act like babies. Makes sense.

Guest: I think my daughter maybe racist after this event.

Driving down the road and daughter sees a person driving a bus that is pulled up along side us.

Daughters comment - Mum there's a monkey driving the bus.


Mum - It's not a monkey it is a person.


No one in my family or myself has referred to certain races as monkeys and no one speaks down about any race. I don't know if she has heard this from crèche but I hope not.

From your "mum" noun and your preference for using French words (crèche, who the fark uses that word? I had to google it), is my assumption correct that you are a subject of Her Majesty?

/oblig?
//dnrtfa

Guest: I think my daughter maybe racist after this event.

Driving down the road and daughter sees a person driving a bus that is pulled up along side us.

Daughters comment - Mum there's a monkey driving the bus.


Mum - It's not a monkey it is a person.


No one in my family or myself has referred to certain races as monkeys and no one speaks down about any race. I don't know if she has heard this from crèche but I hope not.

My niece was visiting California and saw a bunch of people in the strawberry fields picking them, and asked what animals they were.

Guest: I think my daughter maybe racist after this event.

Driving down the road and daughter sees a person driving a bus that is pulled up along side us.

Daughters comment - Mum there's a monkey driving the bus.


Mum - It's not a monkey it is a person.


No one in my family or myself has referred to certain races as monkeys and no one speaks down about any race. I don't know if she has heard this from crèche but I hope not.

Couple years back, a friend of mine (living up New England) was grocery shopping with her kids. Her then-five-year-old sees a package of Uncle Ben's and asks if it the guy on it was Obama.

She didn't find this nearly as funny as I do.

Guest: I think my daughter maybe racist after this event.

Driving down the road and daughter sees a person driving a bus that is pulled up along side us.

Daughters comment - Mum there's a monkey driving the bus.


Mum - It's not a monkey it is a person.


No one in my family or myself has referred to certain races as monkeys and no one speaks down about any race. I don't know if she has heard this from crèche but I hope not.

I did that wheb I was very small in the supermarket. I guess I'd never seen a black person before. My dad hadn't moved so quickly since his rugby days.

/Always knew babies were ignorant fools ruled by fear.

Maybe, because like most animals, it's a defense mechanism. If you see another species other than your own, it's fight or Flight. You don't see red ants and black ants playing together. It's nature.

/But of course people only use the human nature argument when it suits them

confirmation bias: how does it work?

But at just 9 months old, babies showed biases in facial recognition. They aren't born with these biases, but by that age, babies were better able to recognize faces and emotional expressions of people of their race. All of this was based on brain activity measurements, since, again 9 month olds can't shout racist slurs, or anything like that. Five month olds did not show the same pattern, meaning they are learning this behavior somewhere.

OR, it means by 9 months old they have grown accustomed to being surrounded by their own race and thus others are viewed differently. Kind of like how animals of different species can be raised together as cute pals but throw an adult dog and an adult cat together and it's a different story. It's about acclimation.

m3000: "For instance, one high scorer on the honor scale suggested that the only way to deal with radical Muslims is to use nuclear force, paying no mind to collateral damage," explains researcher Collin Barnes. Protecting honor is apparently worth nuclear warfare."

This reminds me of the scenario presented in The Authoritarians where far right wing people decided that nuclear war was the best answer to anything.

I use nuclear war to open mason jars.

Sealed for freshness.

FTFA: "here's a little scientific clue as to why our society's still dealing with conflicts based on skin color"

Ahh, another journalist pretending she believes that the difference between the races is simply pigmentation.

uh that's not racism, and it isn't even bias.

being afraid of the unfamiliar isn't necessarily a bad thing in little kids ...

racism =/= stereotyping
racism =/= implicit associations
racism = stereotyping + discrimination.

Stop throwing this word around like it's confetti. Racism is a very specific phenomenon -- it's the combination of a belief (e.g., one race is 'better' than another) and a behavior (e.g., preferential treatment of the race that is believed to be 'better').

I'm confused, does hand-washing cause racist babies or make them less racist?

hbk72777: Maybe, because like most animals, it's a defense mechanism. If you see another species other than your own, it's fight or Flight. You don't see red ants and black ants playing together. It's nature.

/But of course people only use the human nature argument when it suits them

Or perhaps they prefer more informed ones. Ants radiated as multiple genera over 80 million years ago so it's more like apes to deer than darker people to lighter people. 80 million years is a bit more than perhaps 50,000 years max.

CapnBlues: racism =/= stereotyping
racism =/= implicit associations
racism = stereotyping + discrimination.

Stop throwing this word around like it's confetti. Racism is a very specific phenomenon -- it's the combination of a belief (e.g., one race is 'better' than another) and a behavior (e.g., preferential treatment of the race that is believed to be 'better').

Here's a toughie. Which word is thrown out more liberally, "hero" or "racist"?

Guest: Daughters comment - Mum there's a porch monkey driving the bus.

So it was a white guy?
/we're taking it back.

CapnBlues: racism =/= stereotyping
racism =/= implicit associations
racism = stereotyping + discrimination as long as the discrimination is seen to have negative effects and the victims are not white.

FTFY

rossocaere: CapnBlues: racism =/= stereotyping
racism =/= implicit associations
racism = stereotyping + discrimination as long as the discrimination is seen to have negative effects and the victims are not white.

FTFY

i know that's your perception of it. it's ain't easy bein white.

cman: CapnBlues: racism =/= stereotyping
racism =/= implicit associations
racism = stereotyping + discrimination.

Stop throwing this word around like it's confetti. Racism is a very specific phenomenon -- it's the combination of a belief (e.g., one race is 'better' than another) and a behavior (e.g., preferential treatment of the race that is believed to be 'better').

Here's a toughie. Which word is thrown out more liberally, "hero" or "racist"?

definitely hero.

When my granddaughter was about 2, we went to visit her mom. Mom had a new boyfriend who happened to be black. Granddaughter wandered over to him and took a good bite of his arm. I asked her why she bit him, her response was that he looked like chocolate.


/why yes, we did live in a lily white suburb at the time.

Racism is a Learned Behaviour.

"But at just 9 months old, babies showed biases in facial recognition. They aren't born with these biases, but by that age, babies were better able to recognize faces and emotional expressions of people of their race."

I take it the headline "Babies Tend to do Better at Things They've Had 9 Months of Experience At" wasn't as catchy...

CapnBlues: rossocaere: CapnBlues: racism =/= stereotyping
racism =/= implicit associations
racism = stereotyping + discrimination as long as the discrimination is seen to have negative effects and the victims are not white.

FTFY

i know that's your perception of it. it's ain't easy bein white.

So I guess according to your definition, 96% of blacks voting for Obama is racist?

A friend of mine sends his 6 year old to a private school where they did a Black History Week type deal, kid comes home and tells his dad that it was important that they abolished slavery otherwise "you would still be a slave."

He assume that by "black" they were referring to hair color, and his dad has black hair.

Rufus Lee King: Ok, we get it. White people are inherently evil from birth. How much farther can you go with it?

White people are inherently evil from conception.

It's been known for ages that Southerners are more aggressive than Northerners. It's the damn heat. Seriously!

Human beings can still work in the fields and be somewhat productive without their lives being threatened in hot weather.
You're gonna get pissed that you're working in 110 degree weather.
You're gonna get delirious, so you might start singing or humming or any other kind of tic.
Someone's gonna threaten to kick your ass if you don't cut that crap out.
Since you're already working, hot, and aggravated, you might as well get down to ass kickin'.

Just sayin'.

rossocaere: CapnBlues: rossocaere: CapnBlues: racism =/= stereotyping
racism =/= implicit associations
racism = stereotyping + discrimination as long as the discrimination is seen to have negative effects and the victims are not white.

FTFY

i know that's your perception of it. it's ain't easy bein white.

So I guess according to your definition, 96% of blacks voting for Obama is racist?

sure, buddy. whatever you need to tell yourself.

"But at just 9 months old, babies showed biases in facial recognition. They aren't born with these biases..."

...and I take it saying "These are, in fact, LEARNED biases," outright would similarly be counter-intuitive to writing a good shock-headline...

Ed Finnerty: Rufus Lee King: Ok, we get it. White people are inherently evil from birth. How much farther can you go with it?

White people are inherently evil from conception.

White people are inherently evil from the time they are a gleam in their daddy's eye

letrole: Racism is a Learned Behaviour.

almost all behavior is learned behavior.

/birds of a feather flock together
//sometimes a banana is just a banana

I know.

I'm a horrible person.

stirfrybry: confirmation bias: how does it work?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

(and some of these comments in this thread are full of fail)

It's not the science in this article that's disappointing (for once), it's just the journalism.

The science finds almost exactly the sort of thing you'd expect to find: If you've been looking at purple faces the last nine months you're going to tend to do better at recognizing the things that purple faces are doing over orange faces doing the same things.

This just in! What you don't have experience with, you tend to do worse at! Particularly if you're a baby and one of your recent greatest achievements was the realization that things you can't see still, in fact, exist!

Somehow this article takes what is a pretty hum-drum, out-and-out empirical observation on the effects of an understandable lack of exposure and turn it into an indictment of racism on the part of human beings who haven't mastered not-crapping in their pants yet.

What's worse? Doesn't even bother to mention what research it's reporting on. I'd be greatly interested in actually reading the published study in a publication with some scientific merit.

I'm betting this somehow goes along with a study of babies being raised by caretakers who are not their own race.

I'm betting they find the tyke recognizes those faces equally as well as the same-race baby with same-race caretakers recognizes his.


George Zimmerman baby hits Trayvon Martin baby with a plastic toy hammer because he wants Trayvon Baby's pureed peas and sippy cup.

Totally what's going on here, folks...

letrole: Racism is a Learned Behaviour.

Ok, now that was actually funny for a change, letrole.

batcookie: Guest: I think my daughter maybe racist after this event.

Daughters comment - Mum there's a monkey driving the bus.


Mum - It's not a monkey it is a person.

How much has she been exposed to different races, if I might ask? If you guys live in a white bread town, this is just a form of seeing something new and different, not understanding it, and using knowledge that she DOES possess (I'm sure she's learned all about animals) in an attempt to make sense of it. If she's been exposed to other races... she heard it from someone. And if I were you, I'd find out from whom.

True. I spent the years 0-5 in a small, mostly all-white community. First time I saw a black man, I (quite loudly, apparently) asked my mom "why is that man so dark?"

Why does the article show a white baby as racist? Why not a baby Malik Zulu Shabazz? Maybe the baby's thought bubble could show a black fist held up in the air holding a billy-club in front of a polling station. How about a baby Al Sharpton or Jessie Jackson strolling away and whistling while a black mob beats Whitey?

College kids get help from parents? shocking.

I needed $1500 once for a few last credits to finish my degree. I asked my grandfather for help. He loaned me the money out of a whole life policy he had taken out with me as the beneficiary. Charged me 7% interest and sent me a bill every month. (ie he charged me interest to borrow from money that was intended for me anyway)

/Cool story bro.