I believe Queen summed it up best:

Who wants to live forever?

Misuse of the word "hologram" trifecta in play.

What if I already look creepy and speak Russian?

FTFA: They've set a timeline of creating a functioning android that could act as your "human proxy" by 2020. Five years later they hope to be able to transplant a human brain into their robot.

Yeah, that's a reeeeeally good idea, guys.

Also:





yeaaahhh...no.

This happens all the time in research, things are going swimmngly until the end and you realize you're eternal sixty billion dollar replicant is so overbudget that you're going to have to finish the project off by throwing it into something you pulled out of your ragbag and sending it to Supercuts.

No, you can't be a panther

ummm...

now that they've done the hard part of putting a few universal studios type animatronic gizmos into a silicone face mask, surely the other part of the problem - capturing a human brain and melding it convincingly into such a device is trivial.

Funding for research into cybernetic immortality will be diverted to sexbot development.

xanadian: FTFA: They've set a timeline of creating a functioning android that could act as your "human proxy" by 2020. Five years later they hope to be able to transplant a human brain into their robot.

Yeah, that's a reeeeeally good idea, guys.

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Did we not learn from I, Robot? Will Smith will not be coming to save your butts when this goes wrong.

I wouldn't trust a Russian to spit in my food, what makes them think I'd entrust my living brain to them?

Paging QA to the thread, life-extention nutter QA, you are wanted in the thread.

Mugato: Misuse of the word "hologram" trifecta in play.

Additionally, the concept of restoring a deceased individual even as an actual "hologram" is a concept so absurd that even popular fiction could not credibly suggest it.

xanadian: Also:

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yeaaahhh...no.

Done in one.

Why not? It worked out so well for Caprica.
/Damn Toasters!

So I won't live forever - a robot that looks and thinks like me and has my memories will live forever.

Not exactly the same thing, is it.

Like that whole teleporting = copying all your atoms, destroying the original, then building a copy somewhere else. I'll let someone else take the first ride.

I like how they're spending their time on the android body and figuring that someone will figure out the actual brain transfer part eventually. I'm vaguely reminded of a kid who's 8 and wants to build a robot, but most of his design work so far has consisted of drawing pictures of awesome fighting moves that his robot will use against ninjas, figuring that all that stuff about motor control and programming will just kind of work itself once he's got the end result well-imagined.

/ I know, they've done a little more than that, but, "brain downloading" is kind of a big deal

unlikely: I believe Queen summed it up best:

Who wants to live forever?

Well, if you were a robot you wouldn't have to be alive all the time. I would program myself to go into hibernation mode for 50 years at a time, then wake up to see what was going on. It things seemed cool I'd stick around for a while, if not I'd go back to sleep. Plus, if your mind was basically a computer, shouldn't it be a pretty simple matter to program yourself to want to live forever, in the event that you didn't in the first place? Actually, why bother with a robotic body at all? If you're going to the trouble of recording all of a person's memories and personality traits onto a computer it seems like it would be just as easy to create a whole world that was totally responsive to the desires of the recorded individual, without the usual physical limitations, a technological heaven if you will.

Not bad.

Dibs on the Adrian Barbobot.

Derp eyes are an acceptable price to pay for eternal life.

It won't be you. It may be identical to you and have your memories, but your consciousness won't be transferred. You will still die.

Hopefully THIS wont be the case

We've had this since 1966.


/existence...survival...must cancel out programming

leonel: I wouldn't trust a Russian to spit in my food, what makes them think I'd entrust my living brain to them?

How about the Irish, can we still spit in your food?

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I think someone is just looking for a way out...

unlikely: I believe Queen summed it up best:

Who wants to live forever?

Me. I'll take your share, too, if you're not using it.

soup: So I won't live forever - a robot that looks and thinks like me and has my memories will live forever.

Not exactly the same thing, is it.

Like that whole teleporting = copying all your atoms, destroying the original, then building a copy somewhere else. I'll let someone else take the first ride.

I hate to have to tell you this, but the whole idea of the soul is a fairytale. It's the adult version of Santa or the Easter bunny. If the robot has all of your memories it is you in every way that matters.

soup: So I won't live forever - a robot that looks and thinks like me and has my memories will live forever.

Not exactly the same thing, is it.

Like that whole teleporting = copying all your atoms, destroying the original, then building a copy somewhere else. I'll let someone else take the first ride.

Or like The Prestige. He creates a copy in a different place, then drops into a tank and dies. The copy lives, and remembers everything, but he still dies.

/Fark you, 5 years is the expiration on spoilers
//It was his sled

Life. Don't talk to me about life.

So a beta-level copy rather than an Alpha-level?

So... you're trading a body that runs off of 120 watts and can power and repair itself from environmental materials for a body that runs off of kilowatts of power and requires an an entire industrial infrastructure for upkeep.

That's not quite "living forever".

malaktaus: If the robot has all of your memories it is you in every way that matters.

Except for the one way that matters to people who want to live forever. It may be identical down to the subatomic particles, but two identical rocks are not the same rock and two identical people do not have the same consciousness.

xanadian: FTFA: They've set a timeline of creating a functioning android that could act as your "human proxy" by 2020. Five years later they hope to be able to transplant a human brain into their robot.

Yeah, that's a reeeeeally good idea, guys.

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What does C3PO have to do with this?

malaktaus: soup: So I won't live forever - a robot that looks and thinks like me and has my memories will live forever.

Not exactly the same thing, is it.

Like that whole teleporting = copying all your atoms, destroying the original, then building a copy somewhere else. I'll let someone else take the first ride.

I hate to have to tell you this, but the whole idea of the soul is a fairytale. It's the adult version of Santa or the Easter bunny. If the robot has all of your memories it is you in every way that matters.

Unless the original you is terminated and the consciousness is transferred. Then, I think, you still die but leave behind a flawless replica that any observer would think is actually you, despite your consciousness having ended when your biological brain shut down. Has nothing to do with a soul.

Crewmannumber6: leonel: I wouldn't trust a Russian to spit in my food, what makes them think I'd entrust my living brain to them?

How about the Irish, can we still spit in your food?

I will only trust a Canadian to spit in my food, they are trustworthy spitters

NobleHam: It won't be you. It may be identical to you and have your memories, but your consciousness won't be transferred. You will still die.

If it's handled properly that wouldn't matter. First you get put under general anesthesia, then the mind is recorded; once it can be ascertained that the transfer was successful the physical body is destroyed and you start your new life. Logically there should be no problem with this.

Not the first time the Russians have tried this.

malaktaus: soup: So I won't live forever - a robot that looks and thinks like me and has my memories will live forever.

Not exactly the same thing, is it.

Like that whole teleporting = copying all your atoms, destroying the original, then building a copy somewhere else. I'll let someone else take the first ride.

I hate to have to tell you this, but the whole idea of the soul is a fairytale. It's the adult version of Santa or the Easter bunny. If the robot has all of your memories it is you in every way that matters.

No, it is you in every way but the one that matters most.
It is a very nice duplicate for others though.

Horrorshow.

malaktaus: NobleHam: It won't be you. It may be identical to you and have your memories, but your consciousness won't be transferred. You will still die.

If it's handled properly that wouldn't matter. First you get put under general anesthesia, then the mind is recorded; once it can be ascertained that the transfer was successful the physical body is destroyed and you start your new life. Logically there should be no problem with this.

Yes, logically there is a huge problem with that. That is not the same consciousness you had before, it is just a duplicate. Now to do a full nervous system PHYSICAL transfer into an immortal body would save you, but memory back-up doesn't. It just creates something that thinks it is you. It never was, it never will be.

malaktaus: NobleHam: It won't be you. It may be identical to you and have your memories, but your consciousness won't be transferred. You will still die.

If it's handled properly that wouldn't matter. First you get put under general anesthesia, then the mind is recorded; once it can be ascertained that the transfer was successful the physical body is destroyed and you start your new life. Logically there should be no problem with this.

I'm not sure we know enough about consciousness to say that conclusively.

Even if something has all your memories and personality traits, we don't know enough about the "I am" part of our existence to know if it would actually be transferred or just simulated by a completely separate entity.

<b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/712 0123/77033946#c77033946" target="_blank">Crewmannumber6</a>:</b > <i>leonel: I wouldn't trust a Russian to spit in my food, what makes them think I'd entrust my living brain to them?

How about the Irish, can we still spit in your food?</i>

Don't order the irish bisque.

imontheinternet: Funding for research into cybernetic immortality will be diverted to IS sexbot development.

Don't let anyone try to tell you otherwise.

Martian_Astronomer: I like how they're spending their time on the android body and figuring that someone will figure out the actual brain transfer part eventually.

You should see the engine I've developed. Once those losers finally get that perpetual motion thing going I'm going to be rich.

Crewmannumber6: leonel: I wouldn't trust a Russian to spit in my food, what makes them think I'd entrust my living brain to them?

How about the Irish, can we still spit in your food?

Well I don't see why not.

Klippoklondike: No, you can't be a panther

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Can I be an Adrienne-Barbeaubot?