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   Morgan Stanley cut its outlook for Facebook revenues just days before Morgan Stanley took Facebook public, but only privately warned "major clients." Oops, their bad

22 May 2012 08:31 PM   |   8794 clicks   |   Reuters
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JohnCarter     
No FB for me, all my holdings are in MySpace - it's lurking and will take over soon

22 May 2012 08:33 PM
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Goldstien Sachs     
I'll take Insider Trading for $2000.

22 May 2012 08:33 PM
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ClockworkRingtail     
And this while the majority of the prison population are non violent offenders.

22 May 2012 08:33 PM
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some_beer_drinker    [TotalFark]  
sounds legit to me, don't be a pussy. just double down, it will rebound! that's what i always say!

22 May 2012 08:36 PM
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Goldstien Sachs     
JohnCarter: No FB for me, all my holdings are in MySpace - it's lurking and will take over soon

Newscorp? They're getting back to the point where they bought Myspace...

22 May 2012 08:36 PM
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oukewldave     
JohnCarter: No FB for me, all my holdings are in MySpace - it's lurking and will take over soon

Sucker. I've invested in AOL. Their chatrooms are about to take off

22 May 2012 08:37 PM
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theknuckler_33     
Hooray job creators!

22 May 2012 08:37 PM
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HMS_Blinkin     
It's like the banks aren't even bothering to pretend they're not evil anymore.

22 May 2012 08:37 PM
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BalugaJoe     
Puppets.

22 May 2012 08:37 PM
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bulldg4life     
Free markets will work because people have perfect knowledge.

Except when they don't....like all the damn time.

22 May 2012 08:38 PM
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RibbyK     
FTA: Brands that use Facebook to bring the population into understanding what the company stands for.

Manhattan-speak for SELL!

22 May 2012 08:38 PM
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Von_Ruff     
I am shocked and appalled that the house always wins and stacks the odds in their favor.

22 May 2012 08:38 PM
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BalugaJoe     
My Mafia will take care of this for me.

22 May 2012 08:39 PM
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Edsel     
Not surprising. But honestly, you'd have to be a complete idiot to have believed that the IPO pricing was based on anything but hype. Some analyses I've seen suggest that the price would have to come down to under $10/share to make sense given Facebook's earnings.

22 May 2012 08:40 PM
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fusillade762     
oukewldave: JohnCarter: No FB for me, all my holdings are in MySpace - it's lurking and will take over soon

Sucker. I've invested in AOL. Their chatrooms are about to take off


You're both suckers. I've still got money in Friendster. It's going to take off any day now.

22 May 2012 08:41 PM
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born_yesterday     
Von_Ruff: I am shocked and appalled that the house always wins and stacks the odds in their favor.

It's OK, though, because we have teh government to keep a watchful eye on these guys.

/The next one of you that says "shenanigans", I'll pistol whip him!

22 May 2012 08:42 PM
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stonicus     
upload.wikimedia.org
Approves.

22 May 2012 08:43 PM
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Sweaty Dynamite     
"There's no way I will ever lose money off a stock from a network with 900 million users. It's not physically possible,"

Ah yeah, about that...

22 May 2012 08:43 PM
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RibbyK     
born_yesterday: /The next one of you that says "shenanigans", I'll pistol whip him!

2.bp.blogspot.com

22 May 2012 08:44 PM
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LeroyBourne     
Poor Zuck, he'll just be a common single digit billionaire after this all said and done.

22 May 2012 08:44 PM
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cig-mkr     
If Suck-a-burg had them issue the IPO at $10 there would have been a lot more interest in the stock, but someone was greedy and wanted it all up front. At $10, a lot more "little people" would have invested in the stock.

22 May 2012 08:45 PM
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ladyfortuna     
HMS_Blinkin: It's like the banks aren't even bothering to pretend they're not evil anymore.

Von_Ruff: I am shocked and appalled that the house always wins and stacks the odds in their favor.

While this doesn't surprise me in the slightest, I'm more surprised anyone bought it in the first place. For at least a day or two before they finally went public, I was reading articles expecting it not to do very well. One on NPR even confirmed something I have personal experience with, which is that the ads don't even seem to work. I bought several weeks worth of cheaper ads for my ebay store, and got about 400 fans at the cost of about $80... and it doesn't appear any of them have helped the selling part of the business in the slightest. Thank god for write-offs =/

22 May 2012 08:45 PM
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Balchinian     
Oh please. Anyone who didn't know that FB stock was going to be a flop deserves whatever losses they get.

22 May 2012 08:45 PM
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RibbyK     

22 May 2012 08:46 PM
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Tennozan     
fusillade762: oukewldave: JohnCarter: No FB for me, all my holdings are in MySpace - it's lurking and will take over soon

Sucker. I've invested in AOL. Their chatrooms are about to take off

You're both suckers. I've still got money in Friendster. It's going to take off any day now.


Maroons - all of youse! Investing in the "ethers" is a fools errand!
My money's in hula-hoops, and with its anticipated comeback - I'll be rich!

/ You know, for kids.

22 May 2012 08:46 PM
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The_Pole_Of_Justice     
Good thing I didn't bother. My RealMedia stock is going to allow me to retire.

22 May 2012 08:47 PM
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DubyaHater     
I almost bought into the hype. I was thinking of investing some of my savings in Facebook. I'm glad I didn't, mostly because I was too lazy to make a phone call.
Once again, the little man gets screwed though. People invested thousands of dollars in stock that was doomed to fail before it started. Meanwhile, Zuckerburg and his private investors made a killing selling off overvalued stock. If I were Zuckerburg, I'd take my billions and disappear.

22 May 2012 08:48 PM
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Vangor    [TotalFark]  
Hyped. Price began high. People bought. People talked about value being hyped. Price dropped. People sold. People talked about how people were selling. Price dropped. This is a smashing success for people who make money off of you placing money into and removing money from the market.

22 May 2012 08:48 PM
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austin_millbarge     
B..b..but free market derp!

22 May 2012 08:48 PM
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lockers     
It will be interesting to see the collective government yawn about this. It may get as exciting as a scapegoat getting sacrificed.

22 May 2012 08:50 PM
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stonicus     
ladyfortuna: HMS_Blinkin: It's like the banks aren't even bothering to pretend they're not evil anymore.

Von_Ruff: I am shocked and appalled that the house always wins and stacks the odds in their favor.

While this doesn't surprise me in the slightest, I'm more surprised anyone bought it in the first place. For at least a day or two before they finally went public, I was reading articles expecting it not to do very well. One on NPR even confirmed something I have personal experience with, which is that the ads don't even seem to work. I bought several weeks worth of cheaper ads for my ebay store, and got about 400 fans at the cost of about $80... and it doesn't appear any of them have helped the selling part of the business in the slightest. Thank god for write-offs =/


Facebook ads are going to eb hard to track their success. When you want to buy something, is FB even on the top 10 list of sites you would go to? Probably not. People go their to socialize and play games. But, when you do get around to buying something, those ads you saw on FB might stick in your head, product names and companies etc... So when you do buy from Amazon, it might have been influenced by your FB ad.

22 May 2012 08:50 PM
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Mock26     
OK, I have to admit that I like Facebook. Sure, there are a lot of things about it I do not like (such as the stupid games and that the privacy settings are not strict by default), but overall I really like the site because it allowed be to reconnect with people from my past who I had lost contact with over the years. But, I will admit that I chortled when the stock opened so poorly! Does that make me a bad person?

22 May 2012 08:51 PM
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RibbyK     
DubyaHater: If I were Zuckerburg, I'd take my billions and disappear.

Yep, just like his partner did. Eduardo Saverin

22 May 2012 08:52 PM
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edmo    [TotalFark]  
Perhaps the huge interest in Facebook will school millions in understanding that IPOs are all about making financial institutions rich, along with a few carefully chosen "select: clients, all of whom do their damnedest to run up the price before and after it opens. Once enough regular schmos are in, they sell.

All IPOs are like that.

22 May 2012 08:52 PM
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RibbyK     
Mock26: I have to admit that I like Facebook...Does that make me a bad person?

Yes

22 May 2012 08:53 PM
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lockers     
What is really interesting is that the equity markets are so worthless that hype and fraude are the only ways to make money. How is that 401k feeling now biatches!

22 May 2012 08:53 PM
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crabsno termites     
Stock Market: Cheaper than a trip to Vegas, about the same odds.

Time to buy a new mattress and bury some more coffee cans.

22 May 2012 08:54 PM
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Coastalgrl    [TotalFark]  
I wonder how much people would pay to use facebook, ad free with complete control over their privacy.

22 May 2012 08:55 PM
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SharkTrager     
cig-mkr: If Suck-a-burg had them issue the IPO at $10 there would have been a lot more interest in the stock, but someone was greedy and wanted it all up front. At $10, a lot more "little people" would have invested in the stock.

They had way more than the normal number of "little people" in the IPO, and that was one of the first very bad signs.

22 May 2012 08:57 PM
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RibbyK     
Coastalgrl: I wonder how much people would pay to use facebook

Same as TF, five bucks a month.

22 May 2012 08:58 PM
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dr_blasto    [TotalFark]  
And nothing major will happen.

Funny that if a bar sells booze to a minor, the bartender may get a $1500 fine and could lose his job. Depending upon the severity, a bar could lose their liquor license. If you make, say around $25 to $30k a year at some shiathole, that $1500 is a significant amount of money.

These bankster and trader assholes should feel the same pain and be subject to penalties similar, percentage-wise, to the bartender in a shiathole.

22 May 2012 08:59 PM
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rudemix     
Looks like the SEC wants to invest some time in fb.

22 May 2012 09:00 PM
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ladyfortuna     
stonicus: ladyfortuna: HMS_Blinkin: It's like the banks aren't even bothering to pretend they're not evil anymore.

Von_Ruff: I am shocked and appalled that the house always wins and stacks the odds in their favor.

While this doesn't surprise me in the slightest, I'm more surprised anyone bought it in the first place. For at least a day or two before they finally went public, I was reading articles expecting it not to do very well. One on NPR even confirmed something I have personal experience with, which is that the ads don't even seem to work. I bought several weeks worth of cheaper ads for my ebay store, and got about 400 fans at the cost of about $80... and it doesn't appear any of them have helped the selling part of the business in the slightest. Thank god for write-offs =/

Facebook ads are going to eb hard to track their success. When you want to buy something, is FB even on the top 10 list of sites you would go to? Probably not. People go their to socialize and play games. But, when you do get around to buying something, those ads you saw on FB might stick in your head, product names and companies etc... So when you do buy from Amazon, it might have been influenced by your FB ad.


Actually Ebay gives the store subscribers access to a traffic-tracking tool, so I know for a fact not many people go to my storefront from the FB page. I think Fark is actually my 3rd best referring page after ebay.com and ebay.ca O.o

22 May 2012 09:03 PM
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vodka     
People will start jumping in once the price stabilizes (ie. they stop with the illegal manipulation). Then the price will go up. At least for a while, then after everyone forgets that Facebook basically hasn't done anything to innovate whatsoever, the game will be up.

22 May 2012 09:03 PM
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12349876     
rudemix: Looks like the SEC wants to invest some time in fb.

Doesn't that already happen? You gotta invest to get 6 straight BCS titles.

22 May 2012 09:04 PM
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farkeruk     
Greedy people got skewered. No sympathy.

Buy shares in a real company with real fundamentals next time.

22 May 2012 09:05 PM
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Coastalgrl    [TotalFark]  
RibbyK: Coastalgrl: I wonder how much people would pay to use facebook

Same as TF, five bucks a month.


Ah but even Fark isnt ad free. How much to avoid annoying ads and web tracking?

22 May 2012 09:05 PM
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rudemix     
12349876: rudemix: Looks like the SEC wants to invest some time in fb.

Doesn't that already happen? You gotta invest to get 6 straight BCS titles.


Nice!

22 May 2012 09:05 PM
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Monkeyfark Ridiculous     
Edsel: Not surprising. But honestly, you'd have to be a complete idiot to have believed that the IPO pricing was based on anything but hype. Some analyses I've seen suggest that the price would have to come down to under $10/share to make sense given Facebook's earnings.

Yeah, legally and ethically, sitting on this info might matter. But practically, I'm not sure that it would've made much difference how they filled in the blank in:

"Hello retail Friend, I would Like your help transferring ___ million American dollars out of my company, for your part of this you can keep all future profits. Please wire $38/share to show your good faith. Yours in Friendship, HRH Hon. Prince Zuckerberg of Facebookia"


Take this guy, for example,FTFA: "Laermer says he's hanging tight. "There's no way I will ever lose money off a stock from a network with 900 million users. It's not physically possible," Laermer said."

Maybe they should rename it Facepalm.

22 May 2012 09:07 PM
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Monkeyfark Ridiculous     
*billion

22 May 2012 09:08 PM
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