| Christopher Eccleston on his decision to E-VAC-U-ATE the role of Doctor Who |
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| FirstNationalBastard I understand his decision to not want to go back to a role he has left. However, he was in a farking GI Joe movie. If you can do that, take the damn cash and do a one shot as the Doctor! |
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| baka-san Funny, in all the other interviews he did at the time, he said that he only wanted to do it for one season, .and when he was younger, what really got him hyped were the regeneration episodes. |
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| Counter_Intelligent "I never bathe in the same river twice" I never shiat on the same toilet twice. |
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| strangeguitar
I like him as a actor, but I didn't dig him as the Doctor. |
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| Mike Chewbacca I thought he found Russell T Davies's hyper-homosexuality super annoying. I'm as homo-friendly as a straight person can get, but I can understand not wanting every second of every day to be a gay pride parade. |
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| Sid_6.7 I still think he was the best doctor in the reboot, possibly over all. He did the slightly manic but subtly twisted thing really well. David Tennant did a really good job, and I warmed to him considerably as the show went on. Matt Smith is okay, but the show's new direction since he became the Doctor has been crap, and Amy Pond is f*cking intolerable. |
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| fusillade762 Is it just me, or did that contain absolutely no new information whatsoever? |
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| Skyfrog
He was good, but he would have been great if he stayed on longer. He didn't really have time to flesh out the character. |
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| baka-san Sid_6.7: I still think he was the best doctor in the reboot, possibly over all. He did the slightly manic but subtly twisted thing really well. David Tennant did a really good job, and I warmed to him considerably as the show went on. I have to agree with the masses that Tennant is #1, #2 for me is always going to be McCoy I think Eccleston is at least the equal of Tom Baker when Tom had a strong enough director to rein him in. /Colin Baker never gets the love he deserves. |
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| Apos
As much as I admire Eccleston as a character actor,,I'd have to say that he seemed the least suited for the part compared to Tennant and Smith. |
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| SweetSilverBlues
I LOVED him as the Doctor, and would LOVE to see him back, even once. But if he decides not to, I'll haz a sad, but I'll understand it. Tennant blew my farking mind. Actually made me reconsider my can-never-be-topped love of McCoy and Baker. Matt Smith did what he could with his incarnation, considering they made him Tennant Lite. Amy Pond was a bi-polar schizophrenic, I am convinced. |
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| skepticultist
I wonder what he means by politics? |
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| baka-san Apos: As much as I admire Eccleston as a character actor,,I'd have to say that he seemed the least suited for the part compared to Tennant and Smith. Compared to who? Before him 9 other actors played the part. |
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| Flint Ironstag Mike Chewbacca: I thought he found Russell T Davies's hyper-homosexuality super annoying. I'm as homo-friendly as a straight person can get, but I can understand not wanting every second of every day to be a gay pride parade. He'd worked with RTD before, in Second Coming. |
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| Apos
baka-san: Apos: As much as I admire Eccleston as a character actor,,I'd have to say that he seemed the least suited for the part compared to Tennant and Smith. Compared to who? Before him 9 other actors played the part. The latter portion of my post addressed that. :) |
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| Darth_Lukecash Wow, I never saw so much dislike for Matt Smith and Karen Gillan? Smith is by far the best of the new Doctors, second only to Baker. Tennant is easiest the third favorite. The biggest problem I had with Russel T. Davies run was his insistence that the Doctor be romantic with his companions. The fact was for the first 10 years of his existence - the Doctor was a Grandfatherly character. Sure Tom Baker brought an undercurrent of sexual tension to the TARDIS, but was because Tom Baker was a bit of a horn dog and married one of his companions. Smith and Moffit brought back the realization that a 900 year old alien would have little interest sexual with a 19 year old human being. |
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| SweetSilverBlues
Darth_Lukecash: Wow, I never saw so much dislike for Matt Smith and Karen Gillan? Smith is by far the best of the new Doctors, second only to Baker. Tennant is easiest the third favorite. The biggest problem I had with Russel T. Davies run was his insistence that the Doctor be romantic with his companions. The fact was for the first 10 years of his existence - the Doctor was a Grandfatherly character. Sure Tom Baker brought an undercurrent of sexual tension to the TARDIS, but was because Tom Baker was a bit of a horn dog and married one of his companions. Smith and Moffit brought back the realization that a 900 year old alien would have little interest sexual with a 19 year old human being. Or anyone, except the horribly awkward and uncomfortable "flirting" with River Song. My God that was painful. |
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| ShawnDoc fusillade762: Is it just me, or did that contain absolutely no new information whatsoever? Not just you. |
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| baka-san Apos: The latter portion of my post addressed that. :) Fair enough. Darth_Lukecash: The biggest problem I had with Russel T. Davies run was his insistence that the Doctor be romantic with his companions. The fact was for the first 10 years of his existence - the Doctor was a Grandfatherly character. Sure Tom Baker brought an undercurrent of sexual tension to the TARDIS, but was because Tom Baker was a bit of a horn dog and married one of his companions. John Nathen-Turner had a lot to do with the outfits getting skimpier from 80-89 "for the dads" |
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| FirstNationalBastard baka-san: Apos: The latter portion of my post addressed that. :) Fair enough. Darth_Lukecash: The biggest problem I had with Russel T. Davies run was his insistence that the Doctor be romantic with his companions. The fact was for the first 10 years of his existence - the Doctor was a Grandfatherly character. Sure Tom Baker brought an undercurrent of sexual tension to the TARDIS, but was because Tom Baker was a bit of a horn dog and married one of his companions. John Nathen-Turner had a lot to do with the outfits getting skimpier from 80-89 "for the dads" He also made sure that any appearance of impropriety on the Doctor's part would be avoided. The outfits might have gotten skimpier, but he had a rule that the Doctor couldn't have a "special relationship" with any of his companions. /even Kamelion. |
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| SweetSilverBlues
Mike Chewbacca: I thought he found Russell T Davies's hyper-homosexuality super annoying. I'm as homo-friendly as a straight person can get, but I can understand not wanting every second of every day to be a gay pride parade. I thought Captian Jack was incredibly charming and understated, and the William Shakespeare was hilarious. Torchwood is where they went berzerkynuts. It wasn't enough to have one or two bisexual and one or two gay, no, EVERYONE was bisexual. Every Single One It was worse than a Mercedes Lackey novel. |
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| baka-san FirstNationalBastard: He also made sure that any appearance of impropriety on the Doctor's part would be avoided. The outfits might have gotten skimpier, but he had a rule that the Doctor couldn't have a "special relationship" with any of his companions. /even Kamelion. Cause was still a "kids" show, time slot wise at least |
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| Tax Boy
Mike Chewbacca: Russell T Davies's Everything good that came out of the RTD years of Doctor Who were the Moffat-written episodes. Pretty much everything that RTD was the principal driver for on Doctor Who was absolute crap. In particular: * Rose in OMG LUV with the Doctor * the Doctor in OMG LUV with Rose * The frantic hyper superspeed Master * Tennant's whiny endless goodbye farewell tour * Alien civilizations that were just "space future!" versions of today (reality shows, flying space caravans in space traffic jams, the Titanic, etc.). If you're going that route, at least put some satire in it and don't do it straight. Darth_Lukecash: Smith is by far the best of the new Doctors, second only to Baker I like the cut of your gib. Darth_Lukecash: Tennant is easiest the third favorite Never mind. |
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| LucklessWonder
Of the new ones it's Smith > Eccleston > Tennant for me. Haven't watched enough of classic Who to have a ranking really, but of the episodes I have seen, it's Tom Baker and Patrick Troughton in a tie for best classic doc. /Can't rank overall until I've seen more. I'll say Paul Mcgann was clearly the best doctor just because I be trollin' in my slashy |
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| Dalrint
TFA: Eccleston has previously denied that he would return for Doctor Who's 50th anniversary in 2013 because he doesn't like revisiting his past work. That's the same reason the fourth doctor-actor gave for not being in 'The Five Doctors'...and he said he regretted it for the rest of his life. So...seems like poor planning. |
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| mjbok
I farking hated Rose. Couldn't stand her. Made me dislike Tennant. She was like herpes, she wouldn't go away. She would disappear for a bit, then resurface. |
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| baka-san Dalrint: That's the same reason the fourth doctor-actor gave for not being in 'The Five Doctors'...and he said he regretted it for the rest of his life Hartnell had a much better excuse. |
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| mainsail
SweetSilverBlues: Torchwood is where they went berzerkynuts. It wasn't enough to have one or two bisexual and one or two gay, no, EVERYONE was bisexual. It was worse than a Mercedes Lackey novel. That last statement? Physical impossibility. |
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| SweetSilverBlues
mainsail: SweetSilverBlues: Torchwood is where they went berzerkynuts. It wasn't enough to have one or two bisexual and one or two gay, no, EVERYONE was bisexual. It was worse than a Mercedes Lackey novel. That last statement? Physical impossibility. *KSNERK!* |
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| Dalrint
baka-san: Dalrint: That's the same reason the fourth doctor-actor gave for not being in 'The Five Doctors'...and he said he regretted it for the rest of his life Hartnell had a much better excuse. I still say they should have dug him up and propped him on a wheelie thing and drove him around like a muppet. |
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| baka-san Dalrint: Hartnell had a much better excuse. I still say they should have dug him up and propped him on a wheelie thing and drove him around like a muppet. I think they got close enough with The Three Doctors. Only one grave robbing per Doctor please |
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| skepticultist
mainsail: It was worse than a Mercedes Lackey novel. That last statement? Physical impossibility. Clearly you've never read anything by Terry Goodkind. |
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| bulok
skepticultist: mainsail: It was worse than a Mercedes Lackey novel. That last statement? Physical impossibility. Clearly you've never read anything by Terry Goodkind. Yup Goodkind is, rape rape some fantasy, rape, political preaching, fantasy, rape |
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| Jethro74
Counter_Intelligent: "I never bathe in the same river twice" I never shiat on the same toilet twice. Your house must be a farking mess. |
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| Little_Dictator
skepticultist: mainsail: It was worse than a Mercedes Lackey novel. That last statement? Physical impossibility. Clearly you've never read anything by Terry Goodkind. Hissing, hackles lifting, the chicken's head rose. Kahlan pulled back. Its claws digging into stiff dead flesh, the chicken slowly turned to face her. It cocked its head, making its comb flop, its wattles sway. "Shoo," Kahlan heard herself whisper. There wasn't enough light, and besides, the side of its beak was covered with gore, so she couldn't tell if it had the dark spot. But she didn't need to see it. "Dear spirits, help me," she prayed under her breath. The bird let out a slow chicken cackle. It sounded like a chicken, but in her heart she knew it wasn't. In that instant, she completely understood the concept of a chicken that was not a chicken. This looked like a chicken, like most of the Mud People's chickens. But this was no chicken. This was evil manifest. ------ You're welcome |
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| bdub77 fusillade762: Is it just me, or did that contain absolutely no new information whatsoever? I'm glad I wasn't the only one to find that article completely useless. Your blog sucks. |
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| RoyBatty Well I'll take a position and say Eccleston is the best doctor of the current series, and while I like Tennant, I didn't like how every episode contained a Kirk/Picard speech about how wonderful humans were and how wonderful everything is. Wonderful. Overall the Dr. Who's are a good 7 - 8 out of 10 science fiction shows. Most shows are pretty bad as science fiction, but at least RTD et. al., understand how to tie arcs together and leave no major plots holes begging for answers with promises of future closure, unlike J. Abrams and his bunch. So while the individual episodes are somewhat meh, the series as a whole is pretty good and much better than the sum of its parts. Torchwood was best in Season 3, Children of Earth, and almost as good in Season 4, until basically the last episode which pretty much stunk as science fiction with the miracle entity running through the entire planet. But Torchwood overall was pretty bad. Got better the more they killed off its characters. |
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| findthefish I had not seen the reboot with Eccleston and Tennant, but I'm watching it now and I think Eccleston is quite good. I'm interested to see how Tennant is. |
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| UberNeuman
I remember watching Dr. Who back in the day with Tom Baker on PBS and enjoyed them. I've been thinking about jumping back in again, but I'm not sure what would be a good point to start... |
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| UberNeuman
And I should point out that I didn't watch them with Tom Baker - but watched the episodes he was in.... |
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| rickycal78
findthefish: I had not seen the reboot with Eccleston and Tennant, but I'm watching it now and I think Eccleston is quite good. I'm interested to see how Tennant is. Tennant is decent enough, but he was given a lot of bad material. Some pretty damned good stuff too, but a whole mess of retarded fan wanking crap. |
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| Vangor
bulok: skepticultist: mainsail: It was worse than a Mercedes Lackey novel. That last statement? Physical impossibility. Clearly you've never read anything by Terry Goodkind. Yup Goodkind is, rape rape some fantasy, rape, political preaching, fantasy, rape You vastly overestimate the ratio of rape to political preaching. Some of the speeches went on so long towards the end I had to flip back through to remember who was speaking. Remove the rape and the objectivism and there is a solid fantasy series, which is what I do. |
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| Little_Dictator
Vangor: bulok: skepticultist: mainsail: It was worse than a Mercedes Lackey novel. That last statement? Physical impossibility. Clearly you've never read anything by Terry Goodkind. Yup Goodkind is, rape rape some fantasy, rape, political preaching, fantasy, rape You vastly overestimate the ratio of rape to political preaching. Some of the speeches went on so long towards the end I had to flip back through to remember who was speaking. Remove the rape and the objectivism and there is a solid fantasy series, which is what I do. Remove the rape and objectivism? That would cute the series down to... what? Three books or so? |
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| Dalrint
Little_Dictator: You vastly overestimate the ratio of rape to political preaching. Some of the speeches went on so long towards the end I had to flip back through to remember who was speaking. Remove the rape and the objectivism and there is a solid fantasy series, which is what I do. Remove the rape and objectivism? That would cute the series down to... what? Three books or so? Eight pages. |
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| Skyfrog
In Tennant's first episode I couldn't stand him, his faked English accent was so bad at first but he got better at it and soon grew on me. Plus it always takes me a while to warm up to a new actor in the role. That is until RTD turned him into emo Jesus. I think Smith is definitely my favorite of the new series now, as much as I dreaded him after seeing the previews. He is so great in the role and he reminds me a lot of Patrick Troughton in a way. |
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| Tellingthem UberNeuman: I remember watching Dr. Who back in the day with Tom Baker on PBS and enjoyed them. I've been thinking about jumping back in again, but I'm not sure what would be a good point to start... I would start with The first series of the reboots. It kind of re-introduces things. Also most of those episodes were quite good. |
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| EngineerAU
SweetSilverBlues: Torchwood is where they went berzerkynuts. It wasn't enough to have one or two bisexual and one or two gay, no, EVERYONE was bisexual. It's been a while since I've watched Torchwood but who was gay besides Jack (who really could be called pansexual)? Ianto was bi and then there was the guest star who was Jack's old boyfriend that was gay but other than that, wasn't everybody else straight? Maybe the two women from the original Torchwood were lesbians? Certainly not major characters. |
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