Well, when you think about it, it's not surprising because ad agencies have clogged up the internet everywhere else, designed programs to infiltrate your computer and fill websites nearly to bursting.

Plus, I despise those 'roving ads' which, when my home page opens, spread across the screen in a ghostly video and then you have to hunt for the close button, which is getting harder to find.

On some pages, such ads have no close button.

I've always wondered why these little animated ads or videos manage to load much sooner and faster than videos that I want to see. I've even had pages jam until every last animated ad has fully loaded.

My spam blocker gets overwhelmed with ad based e-mail. I click on a link in Google and get redirected to a site that is nothing but ads. (Not porn either.) Then there are those sites that are basically listings for other sites, many of which will redirect you to even another advertisement site.

Cable TV managed to get the FCC to approve infomercials and the new, improved mini-infomercial. The latter is a two minute spot hawking crap, after which you get another two minutes of the regular 15 second commercials. So, that delays even longer your getting back to the program you were watching.

The Disney Channel has no commercials -- but they have lengthy between program interruptions advertising their own kid shows, dull as dirt kid singers and spot clips of shows that even if I was a kid, I'd think them stupid. (ANT farm. Where did they find that incredibly homely fat girl?)

Other stations often interrupt shows with those little animated spots that show up at the bottom of your screen, usually during an action sequence and draw your attention away from the good stuff.

Nickelodeon used to flash interactive spots of other show characters into a movie you were watching, which was distracting and annoying and had you going WTF?

Besides, some ad company has already expressed an interest in placing advertisements on the moon that can be seen from Earth. Luckily, we don't have the technology ---- yet.

What other companies will say publicly

"This is completely unacceptable and unfair to the consumer."

What they will say privately

"Why didn't you retards think of this first?!!!"


Really it was the next logical step following "everything must now be online", the only question was who was going to do it first. If the model works, expect it everywhere, not just in games.

Can we just move straight to this:



instead of the rest of this crap?

Well, that's one way to get me to stop being a sony fanboy...

In a free game it's acceptable because that's the price you pay for it being free.

But if I have to pay so much as a nickle for a game and you stuff interrupting ads in to it they can forget it. Not interested. A billboard in the background? Meh. Real life has billboards with shiat on them I don't pay attention to in the background too, so that doesn't bother me. But don't interrupt something I paid for unless you never want me to buy another one of your games again.

Rik01:
Plus, I despise those 'roving ads' which, when my home page opens, spread across the screen in a ghostly video and then you have to hunt for the close button, which is getting harder to find.

On some pages, such ads have no close button.


Adblock Plus, or something similar, will change your life. I haven't had to see one of those abominations in a couple of years.

Rik01:

I click on a link in Google and get redirected to a site that is nothing but ads.


You probably have a virus/malware hiding on your computer. The same thing used to happen to my parents' computer from time to time.

I could handle if I'm playing some shooter and there happens to be a poster on a wall advertising pepsi or some new movie. But if it interupts the game I'm going after a refund.

So, Sony has removed things that its current console can do, plans on not allowing gamers to use pre-owned games in their next console (also killing the Gamefly and Redbox gaming business), and now is looking to do commercials in the middle of games?

Man... they really hate their customers. Seriously, why do people buy their shiat again? Why do people keep giving these farkers money?

sexy-fetus: I'm going after a refund.

Hahahahahahahahahah,. Ha! Good one.

Rik01: Well, when you think about it, it's not surprising because ad agencies have clogged up the internet everywhere else, designed programs to infiltrate your computer and fill websites nearly to bursting.

Plus, I despise those 'roving ads' which, when my home page opens, spread across the screen in a ghostly video and then you have to hunt for the close button, which is getting harder to find.

On some pages, such ads have no close button.

I've always wondered why these little animated ads or videos manage to load much sooner and faster than videos that I want to see. I've even had pages jam until every last animated ad has fully loaded.

My spam blocker gets overwhelmed with ad based e-mail. I click on a link in Google and get redirected to a site that is nothing but ads. (Not porn either.) Then there are those sites that are basically listings for other sites, many of which will redirect you to even another advertisement site.

Cable TV managed to get the FCC to approve infomercials and the new, improved mini-infomercial. The latter is a two minute spot hawking crap, after which you get another two minutes of the regular 15 second commercials. So, that delays even longer your getting back to the program you were watching.

The Disney Channel has no commercials -- but they have lengthy between program interruptions advertising their own kid shows, dull as dirt kid singers and spot clips of shows that even if I was a kid, I'd think them stupid. (ANT farm. Where did they find that incredibly homely fat girl?)

Other stations often interrupt shows with those little animated spots that show up at the bottom of your screen, usually during an action sequence and draw your attention away from the good stuff.

Nickelodeon used to flash interactive spots of other show characters into a movie you were watching, which was distracting and annoying and had you going WTF?

Besides, some ad company has already expressed an interest in placing advertisements on the moon that can be seen from Earth. Luckily, we don't have the technology ---- yet.

And the very first Moon Ad will be only the enigmatic:

CHA

A captive audience is a good thing with advertising. Angering the audience and then expecting them to go buy your stuff not so much.

I'll accept ads with free versions of things. I'll even accept a little advertising from things like Hulu since it's still way better than paying for cable. But, this would be like bothering to buy a DVD only to have ads inserted into it.

I just asked the creative director of Planetside 2 (via that Twitter machine) if they would feature in game commercials. His response: "hell no".

So I think we're safe for at least ONE game.

Curiously missing from the reactions above is the option of quit playing computer games, move out of your mom's basement and get a job. You're not 12 years old any more, ya know.

FTA: "When/if this technology will be inserted into games remains to be seen, but I could see it "working" in free-to-play games. Advertisers would love having the "captive" audience"

Alt-Tab, check Fark.

I never buy anything based on ads, anyway. Although if all the people who do, allow more F2P games to exist, then thank you, impressionable consumers.

It only does everything.

SweetSilverBlues: And the very first Moon Ad will be only the enigmatic:

CHA


And no one will know whether to get nice furniture or exotic dancers.

+1 for that one

Neondistraction: Rik01:

I click on a link in Google and get redirected to a site that is nothing but ads.


You probably have a virus/malware hiding on your computer. The same thing used to happen to my parents' computer from time to time.

Browser hijackers are no fun.
One easy test is to see if the same search results / links come up with google in a different browser or another computer.
Anyone can install Chrome or FireFox easily enough (a smart thing to do for whoever's computer you fix anyhow as they're not as big of a target as IE and have better security plugins such as AdBlock. Of course, you've got to be smart enough to find install, and update what's needed)

The hard part is getting your family to not use IE, that stupid blue e is synonymous with the magic of the internet. *gumbles*

Plenty of good free Anti-Virus and Ad-ware things out there for use, some farker may be willing to help but I haven't kept up on what there is available.

*shrugs*

/Gotten to the point I'll help someone deal with a problem 2-3 times, after that, I contract Meh Disease. If they don't listen to advice, I don't try too hard if at all. If they can't be bothered to try and avoid the problem in the first place, especially when warned, i'm not going to put the effort in to bail them out all of the time.

Would like to have a word with whatever jackhole came up with this idea.

StoneColdAtheist: DERP!

Man, I want to go on a Chex quest.

This isn't a terrible business model if they drop the price point enough. Games would have to be like $1-$5 each for this to work.

There's already more than enough reasons to not buy a console, especially from the farkwads known as Sony. So yeah, keep digging that grave.

Meh. In Madden every game is brought to you by Verizon and they have Snickers "Crunch Time" plays of the game. Putting ads in a game in a tasteful manner could benefit both consumer and gamemaker.

Fano: SweetSilverBlues: And the very first Moon Ad will be only the enigmatic:

CHA


And no one will know whether to get nice furniture or exotic dancers.

+1 for that one

Just could not resist.

Little Wooden Boy and I thank you.

This is good news....for PC gamers.

Just read reviews before parting with your money and you can avoid shiat like this.

omeganuepsilon: Neondistraction: Rik01:

I click on a link in Google and get redirected to a site that is nothing but ads.


You probably have a virus/malware hiding on your computer. The same thing used to happen to my parents' computer from time to time.

Browser hijackers are no fun.


No, no they are not. Some of them are very good at hiding. My parents don't use their computer for much other than the internet, so without a lot of files to transfer or software to re-install it was actually easier to just nuke the whole thing (from orbit, just to be sure) and start over with a fresh install than to try and find where the little bastard was hiding itself.

Here's one game they won't be able to get their insidious advertising tentacles into:



/Yes, I did have this when I was little.
//No, I don't know how or why.

This has been in Wipeout HD for years now.

Shaggy_C: Meh. In Madden every game is brought to you by Verizon and they have Snickers "Crunch Time" plays of the game. Putting ads in a game in a tasteful manner could benefit both consumer and gamemaker.

An ad in a game doesn't benefit me at all as a gamer, nor does it provide any inclination to open my wallet. In fact, it generally has the opposite effect.

This sort of thing isn't going to make games cheaper, because it's been quite established that folks will pay 60 bucks, then more on top of it for DLC that should have been in the box to begin with.

Who am I kidding though, gamers also tend to be idiots. Look at D3 sales. The most draconian single player DRM ever, and folks lined up by the millions for it.

mongbiohazard: In a free game

it ain't farking free goddammit. If I pay 60 farking dollars for a game it better not have any farking ads.

tool.

SN1987a goes boom: This has been in Wipeout HD for years now.

TFA is about ads that interrupt gameplay. Wipeout's ads are at loading screens between races.

Neondistraction: omeganuepsilon: Neondistraction: Rik01:

I click on a link in Google and get redirected to a site that is nothing but ads.


You probably have a virus/malware hiding on your computer. The same thing used to happen to my parents' computer from time to time.

Browser hijackers are no fun.


No, no they are not. Some of them are very good at hiding. My parents don't use their computer for much other than the internet, so without a lot of files to transfer or software to re-install it was actually easier to just nuke the whole thing (from orbit, just to be sure) and start over with a fresh install than to try and find where the little bastard was hiding itself.

Certainly. Worst thing I ever got was some sort of DDOS type drone I think. I don't know what it was doing aside from generating a LOT of traffic. I fixed it within a day. Two weeks later my ISP calls, says the government told them about the traffic. It was cool to say I'd had it fixed almost as soon as I'd contracted it. Process Explorer and Hijack This! are my favorite tools, ever. Combined with the network monitor from XP, or various means of the same thing in Win7, anyhow.

I've seen some latch onto every exe on the system and perpetuate that way. You clean IE, but as soon as you open calc or notepad, blamo, reinfected. Not everything can be cleaned reliably without prolonged scans, and scan's are only reliable as the database. (I had several programs at one time...when I got infected, now I just monitor my systems, don't have to be a pro to get familiar with the processes in task manager and how/when your computer runs what's needed)

Anyhow, yeah, Fresh OS install is faster than deep scans(if you don't customize the shiat out of windows), and infinitely more reliable. Backup files on a seperate disk and scan that as you use it.

Still, one of the most insidious things in IE and even firefox are....toolbars. Find a little app and it's sometimes bundled with more than one toolbar, many of which re-install or self start after turned off, the cost of using hosting sites I suppose. Those things can also hijack browsers under the umbrella of "ease of access to what you use". Same principle I dislike the new-ish superfetch.
/fark you and do what I say, and only what I say, and only when I say it!!

Oblig:

kab: The most draconian single player DRM ever, and folks lined up by the millions for it.

Not quite. I'd still place the Settler's 7 / Assassin's Creed 2 just a little higher. No online component to those AT ALL and they still require the net connection. It's not a matter of "it's really a multi-player game, we just allow you to play it single player", they're truly single player games.

Wow. They've successfully devised a scheme that would get me to not only refuse to buy any more of their product, but to throw out anything they made that I owned, and to never again buy from any company who advertised with them.

Bravo.

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StoneColdAtheist: Curiously missing from the reactions above is the option of quit playing computer games, move out of your mom's basement and get a job. You're not 12 years old any more, ya know.

The average video game player age is 37, and you're an idiot.

Anyhow back on topic.

Ad supported games are fine. Even product placement. But once I fork over cash, interrupting my gaming, or making unwanted use of my bandwidth is not allowed.

That's the one thing that pissed me off with the new XBox dashboard, farking commercials that auto-load. I don't need to see digorno commercials on a service I shouldn't really pay for anyhow.
Meaning, it's free for PC games(peer to peer gaming, messaging, chat, etc). Hell, Age of Empires had game was linked into MSN messenger at one point. All free, maybe a banner ad but certainly not commercials.

*grumbles*
They already to DLC games that are only single player but can't be played offline.
Now they want to start doing On-Disk DLC.
Only a matter of time before it's some version of pay per minute online or off.

Hopefully Sony patented the idea so no one could ever use it the way we all don't want to see.
/Not likely

omeganuepsilon: Now they want to start doing On-Disk DLC.

Start? Where have you been for the past couple of years?

spleef420: mongbiohazard: In a free game

it ain't farking free goddammit. If I pay 60 farking dollars for a game it better not have any farking ads.

tool.


I'm the tool and your dumb ass couldn't even read past one farking sentence? As I mentioned:

"But if I have to pay so much as a nickle for a game and you stuff interrupting ads in to it they can forget it. Not interested."

I have to pay $60 for some hypothetical game that's a lot of nickels, genius.

StoneColdAtheist: Curiously missing from the reactions above is the option of quit playing computer games, move out of your mom's basement and get a job. You're not 12 years old any more, ya know.

0/10

Shaggy_C: In Madden every game is brought to you by Verizon and they have Snickers "Crunch Time" plays of the game. Putting ads in a game in a tasteful manner could benefit both consumer and gamemaker

How about no. My game of NHL '12 is not brought to me by Verizon wireless, it was brought to me by the farking $50 I spent on the game. If they want to bring me my game, then bring it without my money.

Ads only work on children and women. Can't I opt out? The only thing I remember from and ad is what NOT to buy because of being marketed at too hard.

Oh and TV ads were never as effective as they said they were.

I want advertisements that pop up when I start my car not allowing me to drive until I watched them.

rpm: omeganuepsilon: Now they want to start doing On-Disk DLC.

Start? Where have you been for the past couple of years?

All I've seen so far is content that is locked, and a code included for the original purchaser to unlock it. Limit's used sales somewhat, or rather, they get paid twice if the later user pays to get a new code.(another money grab that I disagree with)

Then again, I don't play every game that comes out.

If you know of games that came out in the last couple of years that have straight up DLC that the initial purchaser has to pay for again to unlock, please list them. The bigger the list the better, because you make it sound like everyone under the sun should have seen these games as they're sooo plentiful.

kab: Shaggy_C: Meh. In Madden every game is brought to you by Verizon and they have Snickers "Crunch Time" plays of the game. Putting ads in a game in a tasteful manner could benefit both consumer and gamemaker.

An ad in a game doesn't benefit me at all as a gamer, nor does it provide any inclination to open my wallet. In fact, it generally has the opposite effect.

This sort of thing isn't going to make games cheaper, because it's been quite established that folks will pay 60 bucks, then more on top of it for DLC that should have been in the box to begin with.

Who am I kidding though, gamers also tend to be idiots. Look at D3 sales. The most draconian single player DRM ever, and folks lined up by the millions for it.

Yeah well I love diablo games. but i've played for about 22 hours now and my wrist is really sore from holding the mouth with a death grip, and i'm bored. this does not bode well.

Advertising has zero effect on my buying habits. They are all aggravating and I do whatever I can to avoid them. I don't see ads online, I don't watch commercials on tv.

I surely wouldn't buy a game that advertised to me like that, but honestly I'm not in the game thing anymore. Systems cost too much & the games are hit or miss, plus I don't need to spend 3 weeks to beat a game. Just give me something to shoot or some football.

fark em.

It's been done..

I might be in denial, but 99% of my purchases are unrelated to adds. I don't buy foods based on them (unless you think Costco brand milk and life cereal are marketed to a thirty year old bachelors, and games I go by review. Alcohol by taste and price. Car by price and performance, fark design.

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It's been done..

Not really the same thing, IMO. Ads like that are just part of the scenery. The modern world doesn't look quite right without billboards everywhere. Plus you can walk right by them and not interact with them. Usually when ads are done like that it's not immersion-breaking, unless you're just patently offended by the idea that someone, somewhere had to bankroll the game's development costs.

Although sometimes it's really bad, like that Verizon ad on the TV in Alan Wake that was part of one of the collection achievements. At least in that case you could hit the button and then leave the room, thus skipping the ad.

Ads that can't be ignored are a whole new level of douchebaggery.

I go out of my way to avoid seeng advertisements, but I still see them if I get sloppy with the internet (or browse on a phone or public computer), read a book, watch a DVD, go to see a performance of any kind (seriously, the last stage show I saw had a commercial break), go shopping anywhere, go to work, or just leave my apartment. That's not counting TV ads, streaming internet ads, radio ads (I can't listen to the radio anymore because the commercials actually make my head hurt), ads on cars, ads on people's shirts, ads that pretend to be news articles, stadium ads, and probably a few more, because I do what I can to avoid seeing them.

Even then, I see ads everywhere unless I stay inside and read. We all like to think of ourselves as above the influence of advertising, but, frankly, we aren't. It's impossible to escape entirely, and even if we only rarely make the conscious decision to buy something because of ads we just saw, the corporate identities and logos stay with us. We recognize these entities. We think of many of them as familiar, comfortable parts of life. ("Hey, my computer is booting up to a soothing image of Tux the penguin!") We even, to a disturbing extent, think in terms of short bursts of pop culture texts, often ads.

Companies have invaded our minds and conquered them, and with marketing techniques becoming even more sophisticated as our understanding of psychology improves, they're getting better and better at forcing us to submit.