snocone: WhoIsNotInMyKitchen: You have to admit, the money that the x-ray scanner companies spent on lobbying produced amazing return on investment.

Its sad how your US government is basically devolved into a payola racket.

Less payola and more LICENSE TO STEAL availible to high bidder.

Next on the list:

TSA screeners at bus depots or stops "inspecting" luggage for things to steal contraband.

One of these days you are all going to realize that

TSA MUST DIE!

/we need to focus on the asshats taking the job since the congresscritters are all purchased

pxlboy: ...infrastructure in dire need of repair, and they want to spend more money on crap like this.

Good point. I am afraid of US bridges and tunnels, but not because of terrorism.

They don't need any helpfrom teh turrists - most of them are falling apart on their own.

Mock26: So, what happens if the TSA shows up at a bus company and the company owner refuses to talk to them? What authority does the TSA have over this company? Can they prevent their busses from operating on the road? Can they shut them down? Does anyone know?

have you seen the average TSA employee? They could just lay down in the road in front of the bus and nothing would be getting by.

Am I to understand that you refuse to cooperate, citizen?

namegoeshere: pxlboy: ...infrastructure in dire need of repair, and they want to spend more money on crap like this.

Good point. I am afraid of US bridges and tunnels, but not because of terrorism.

They don't need any helpfrom teh turrists - most of them are falling apart on their own.

There are at least 3 bridges around where I live that are partially blocked off with jersey barriers to force cars toward the center because the edges are crumbling. There is another that was in need of repair for so long that when they finally got to fixing it they had to completely tear it down and replace it. If the maintenance had been done when needed it would still be there today. I'm afraid the same thing will happen to the others.

Lipo: The TSA is a cabinet level position created by Congress. Obama can't disband it. Doing so would require another act of Congress.

It is however an executive branch department and takes it's orders from the president. He can fire department heads, issue executive orders telling them to knock it the fark off, etc.

pxlboy:
Implying that voting actually helps

You've got that right. Neither party seems terribly interested in doing anything about TSA/DHS other than increasing their budget and cowering in the corner.

/What's it take to charge someone for treason these days?

moothemagiccow: if I wanted to be treated like a criminal I'd move to the middle east. FREEDOM ISNT FREE, apparently I have to pay for it with a shiatload of freedom

Last I checked, Freedom only cost a buck-o-five.

clyph: Lipo: The TSA is a cabinet level position created by Congress. Obama can't disband it. Doing so would require another act of Congress.

It is however an executive branch department and takes it's orders from the president. He can fire department heads, issue executive orders telling them to knock it the fark off, etc.

Actually he should just assign them all to the mexican border.

clyph: Lipo: The TSA is a cabinet level position created by Congress. Obama can't disband it. Doing so would require another act of Congress.

It is however an executive branch department and takes it's orders from the president. He can fire department heads, issue executive orders telling them to knock it the fark off, etc.

That's not what I was taking issue with. I was simply stating he can't just disband the department without an act of Congress.

It's all a part of the bureaucracy, bloat the agency to make itself relevant.

snocone: One of these days you are all going to realize that

TSA MUST DIE!

/we need to focus on the asshats taking the job since the congresscritters are all purchased

I'm with this guy.
Cut it out, knock it off, bury it.
ust a bunch of neo-fascist asshats with their hands in my pockets, in more ways than one.
/good way to lose a hand, too.

namegoeshere: Nice stock photo selection. Your children will now be freedomfondled twice a day before boarding their school bus. You're welcome.

Thank you for my Word-Of-The-Day for today.

Smackledorfer: dorko16: It's kind of surreal that the group doing the most to harm freedom in this country are the farking airport baggage screeners. No grand conspiracies or black helicopters, just a cretin making 10 bucks an hour and hassling you for papers at a bus stop.

No. Its kind of surreal that among the biggest complaints of Americans is having bags searched and a patdown. TSA might brush my junk with the back of their hand. Police, at the behest of the bulk of Americans, would lock me up for years for various amounts of marijuana. But hey, that TSA, they are so scurry!

The fact that more Americans, ime, are upset about the TSA than torture, drone strikes, setting up puppet governments, military used for capital expansion and to support our private enterprises, the complete sellout of government to the 1%, etc is sickening.

/and yea, I consider TSA to be a mostly worthless, and certainly not cost effective, security theater.


fark all you retards who can't spot, or don't care about, destruction of life and freedom when it doesn't personally affect you. Oh noes, half a farking hour at the airport!

The TSA will look for and inform the police if they find marijuana. People get used to the concept that because the government wants to, it can.

If people believe that the authority of the government is unlimited an a 'right' of the government, then you won't have anyone who is capable of caring about those other abuses.

If the power of the government is unrestricted, then those things you mention are literally legal, because a government that enjoys unchecked authority decides what is legal.

And if people are convinced that the government having such authority is a good thing because of all the good it can do with it, then you will never convince them otherwise.

In otherwords, the small stuff like getting searched without a warrant, is more important because without that fundamental belief in restricted government, the rest is not only justified, but expected.

kim jong-un: The TSA will look for and inform the police if they find marijuana. People get used to the concept that because the government wants to, it can.

If people believe that the authority of the government is unlimited an a 'right' of the government, then you won't have anyone who is capable of caring about those other abuses.

If the power of the government is unrestricted, then those things you mention are literally legal, because a government that enjoys unchecked authority decides what is legal.

And if people are convinced that the government having such authority is a good thing because of all the good it can do with it, then you will never convince them otherwise.

In otherwords, the small stuff like getting searched without a warrant, is more important because without that fundamental belief in restricted government, the rest is not only justified, but expected.

I'm not sure where you are going with most of that; it seems to be a bunch of conditional statements that are based off of silly assumptions: no one believes in unrestricted government. Also, while I'm in favor of legalizing all drugs, I'm not in any upset that one law enforcement group tells another when they find something relevant, whether its a TSA officer bringing in the cops or any other inter-agency assist. We have a lot of law enforcement groups and they should be helping one another out. I get upset at the people writing the laws and, especially as regards to drug laws, the fact that so many voters truly do seem to want them to be illegal substances.

I'm hoping I'm misreading your final paragraph though. You aren't claiming that warrant exceptions to the 4th amendment are worse than all of the things I mentioned, are you? You can have a fundamental belief in restrictions on the government and still hold exceptions to the 1st, 2nd, and 4th amendments. Before you tell me I'm crazy, ask yourself if the first lets you yell fire in a crowded theater, incite violence in a mob, or have no limits on noise pollution; ask yourself if the 2nd lets you own and fly a stealth bomber; etc. With the 4th, I'm sure there is at least one exception to warrant-less searches and seizures you would agree to: if nothing else at least open field and open view.

NumberFiveIsAlive

dorko16: It's kind of surreal that the group doing the most to harm freedom in this country are the farking airport baggage screeners. No grand conspiracies or black helicopters, just a cretin making 10 bucks an hour and hassling you for papers at a bus stop.

Actually, I'm pretty sure the folks doing the most to harm freedom in this country are the politicos that put the TSA there. They're the ones making the money, they're the ones keeping the TSA in business, and they're the ones that make other decisions that also invade peoples privacy, such as internet monitoring, mobile phone monitoring, public cameras, and censorship laws. The TSA is simply a tool. Congress is the group you should be talking about.


Bullshiat. As voters we are the ones doing all the harm to our freedom. We refuse to elect anyone who would actually change anything. I know, i know, Paul is crazy and doesnt like the idea of TSA fingering you. America needs to decide what's more important, their pocket book or their freedom.

Always remember, there are more of "us" than there are of "them."

>Mock26
>So, what happens if the TSA shows up at a bus company and the company owner >refuses to talk to them? What authority does the TSA have over this company? >Can they prevent their busses from operating on the road? Can they shut them >down? Does anyone know?

They invoke the curse of The White Man From Town.

Phase One completed.
Begin Phase Two.

Lipo: Day_Old_Dutchie: Obama would be an absolute HERO if he totally disbanded the TSA because, anyone with an ounce of intelligence realizes these organizations do ZERO to protect the citizens from terrorists.

But he's as spineless as all the rest of those overpaid jellyfish that warm seats in the government.

The TSA is a cabinet level position created by Congress. Obama can't disband it. Doing so would require another act of Congress.

The DHS is a cabinet department. The TSA is part of the DHS.

If it is a "Corporate Security Review", why is it called a CRS? Inquiring minds want to know.

pxlboy: Dick Gozinya: Well, you just keep whining and biatching about it on Fark......that'll learn 'em.

Want to put a stop to all this crap? VOTE THE farkERS OUT OF OFFICE!!! Better yet, run for office yourself and make change happen. Dont just sit on your ass biatching about how everything is going to shiat around you while you do nothing about it.

Implying that voting actually helps

Or that anyone can run for office without millions of dollars behind them

CasperImproved: If it is a "Corporate Security Review", why is it called a CRS? Inquiring minds want to know.

Can't Remember! shiat.

PsiChi: Always remember, there are more of "us" than there are of "them."

Only if we stand together.

Let's say you live in a town (precinct, whatever) with 20,000 people and 100 cops. It isn't 1 cop versus 200 citizens. It's 100 cops versus 1 citizen, repeated 20,000 times.