The lions just don't know how to use a low draft pick. They haven't had a pick so low in almost 20 years.

They have Stafford and Megatron. Keep those two healthy, and they'll be in a lot of games.

SilentStrider: They have Stafford and Megatron. Keep those two healthy, and they'll be in a lot of games.

Don't forget Suh. If he can stop stomping on people and ripping helmets off long enough to play a complete season, he could become the best defender in the league.

That said, even with as big of a turnaround DET has since they drafted Stafford, there's a certain level of dysfunction they're going to retain for a while. This is the Lions we're talking about. They made the playoffs a few times with Barry also, but that didn't stop them from sucking every other year during his career.

/as opposed to more recently, where they suck every year except last

Lions are going 13-3 this season and winning the NFC.

Could be worse. They could have this guy as their mentor:

9beers: Lions are going 13-3 this season and winning the NFC.

who wins the NFC on 10beers?

Here's my prediction for the Detroit Lions. A giant sinkhole opens under Ford Field as the thanks to the giant suckitude bender Detroit has been on over the last few years. Stafford and Megatron both get swallowed up and are never seen again as they are buried alive. Suh decides the Rams are responsible for the shenanigans and proceeds to stomp on the necks of every St. Louis player. He reserves the worst punishment for Sam Bradford by ripping his arms out of his sockets and beating him to death with them. He gets convicted of multiple counts of felony assault and one count of first-degree murder, and he gets locked away for the rest of his life. Struck by unimaginable tragedy and failure to control Donkey Kong, the Lions start a downward spiral that never stops. The Lions go 0-16 for three straight seasons, only ending the losing streak when a panel of investors from Los Angeles mercifully buys the franchise for a dollar (a great deal all things considered) to move the team to California.

9beers: Lions are going 13-3 this season and winning the NFC.

Lol.

/or are you serious?

Wait, someone has been preventing the players from speaking their minds? What?

Ordinary Genius: 9beers: Lions are going 13-3 this season and winning the NFC.

Lol.

/or are you serious?

9beers is generally recognized as a troll, but it's not a terribly uncommon belief among run of the mill idiots that the Lions are going to the Super Bowl in the next season or two.

The NFC North is a farking meat grinder right now, though. The Lions will contend as long as whatever glue they put on Stafford's shoulders holds up, but if they finish 8-8 I don't think anyone will be surprised.

Ordinary Genius: Lol.

/or are you serious?


Why wouldn't they continue improving from last year? The only way they don't have a better season is if Stafford or Johnson gets hurt.

Jubeebee: 9beers is generally recognized as a troll, but it's not a terribly uncommon belief among run of the mill idiots that the Lions are going to the Super Bowl in the next season or two.

Remember, I'm the bad guy here, not the people posting insults like this one.

Redskins laugh at your one year bad draft class. When they have picks they tend to draft busts.

/Skins fan
//GRIII for president
///Super Bowl in 2018

9beers: Ordinary Genius: Lol.

/or are you serious?


Why wouldn't they continue improving from last year? The only way they don't have a better season is if Stafford or Johnson gets hurt.

they won't improve because they are the Lions. Although, they got rid of millen, so I guess they have that going for them.

Good god this is the biggest non-story. Immature millionaires doing stupid things? Color me shocked. But the NFL and its media have already set the tone on how the Lions are the bad guys. You know the ones who weren't intentionally trying to hurt people.

These guys will either get right or end up like Charles Rogers. I'd rather the Lions take chances on high-talent/questionable character guys than on guys with suspect talent.

TheBitterest: Good god this is the biggest non-story. Immature millionaires doing stupid things? Color me shocked. But the NFL and its media have already set the tone on how the Lions are the bad guys. You know the ones who weren't intentionally trying to hurt people.

These guys will either get right or end up like Charles Rogers. I'd rather the Lions take chances on high-talent/questionable character guys than on guys with suspect talent.

You have to make the effort to change the jack-asses.

Do you think Ray Lewis or Tom Brady puts up with this kind of shiat in a locker room?

Just to be clear, we're talking about a team that has won one playoff game in 50+ years.

Broktun: TheBitterest: Good god this is the biggest non-story. Immature millionaires doing stupid things? Color me shocked. But the NFL and its media have already set the tone on how the Lions are the bad guys. You know the ones who weren't intentionally trying to hurt people.

These guys will either get right or end up like Charles Rogers. I'd rather the Lions take chances on high-talent/questionable character guys than on guys with suspect talent.

You have to make the effort to change the jack-asses.

Do you think Ray Lewis or Tom Brady puts up with this kind of shiat in a locker room?

It took years of consistent success to create Tom Brady and Ray Lewis. The Lions don't have anyone like that right now outside of Calvin Johnson. And unfortunately Megatron is no Megatron. Give Stafford two more years of 4500+ yards, 40+ TD's. Give Suh two years of Pro-bowl caliber seasons. Give Schwartz two years of successful seasons, and give them all two or three playoff victories, and we might be talking about Stafford and Suh in the same way we talk about Lewis and Brady.

Jubeebee: Ordinary Genius: 9beers: Lions are going 13-3 this season and winning the NFC.

Lol.

/or are you serious?

9beers is generally recognized as a troll, but it's not a terribly uncommon belief among run of the mill idiots that the Lions are going to the Super Bowl in the next season or two.

The NFC North is a farking meat grinder right now, though. The Lions will contend as long as whatever glue they put on Stafford's shoulders holds up, but if they finish 8-8 I don't think anyone will be surprised.

It's not out of the realm of possibility that Detroit goes 13-3 this year. Let me be clear I do not expect this to happen this year, or even next year. But Detroit has the talent to go 13-3 this year. What they lack is the ability to harness that talent 13 times in the regular season, and the kind of schedule that makes it more possible. This year they have San Fran, Philly and Tennessee, and as always 2 games vs Green Bay giving them 5 games that they can "afford" to lose (ie: no one will be aghast if they lose). That drops them to 11-5. Toss in two games against Chicago that may be a toss up, that could drop them to 9-7. That should be the absolute worst that Lions do this year.

But you toss in an upset win over Green Bay, splitting with Chicago and beating Philly and Tennessee (both well within Detroit's capabilities) and you hit that 13-3 mark. It's not out of the realm of probability for Detroit to do that.

/Picking the Lions to finish tied with Green Bay in overall record, but losing on tiebreakers. GB has a tougher schedule as the Saints are a better team than the Falcons, and the Giants are better than Eagles, so I see them losing one more out of division game than the Lions.
//12-4 for both! I'm not crazy! And yes I will probably be eating this prediction in November. But dammit, it's possible!
///GO LIONS!

Techhell: It's not out of the realm of possibility that Detroit goes 13-3 this year. Let me be clear I do not expect this to happen this year, or even next year. But Detroit has the talent to go 13-3 this year. What they lack is the ability to harness that talent 13 times in the regular season, and the kind of schedule that makes it more possible. This year they have San Fran, Philly and Tennessee, and as always 2 games vs Green Bay giving them 5 games that they can "afford" to lose (ie: no one will be aghast if they lose). That drops them to 11-5. Toss in two games against Chicago that may be a toss up, that could drop them to 9-7. That should be the absolute worst that Lions do this year.

But you toss in an upset win over Green Bay, splitting with Chicago and beating Philly and Tennessee (both well within Detroit's capabilities) and you hit that 13-3 mark. It's not out of the realm of probability for Detroit to do that.

/Picking the Lions to finish tied with Green Bay in overall record, but losing on tiebreakers. GB has a tougher schedule as the Saints are a better team than the Falcons, and the Giants are better than Eagles, so I see them losing one more out of division game than the Lions.
//12-4 for both! I'm not crazy! And yes I will probably be eating this prediction in November. But dammit, it's possible!
///GO LIONS!

I actually agree with you. Detroit DOES have the talent to go 13-3.

The problem is, so does Green Bay and Chicago. And as farked up as the Vikings are right now, they can make a game of it at home. With how brutal the schedule is, I could see DET and CHI going anywhere from 8-8 to 13-3, with GB finishing anywhere from 10-6 to 16-0.

But my original point is that Detroit has a lot of history to get through before they start thinking Super Bowl. Snark, not insight, mostly.

Jubeebee: Techhell: It's not out of the realm of possibility that Detroit goes 13-3 this year. Let me be clear I do not expect this to happen this year, or even next year. But Detroit has the talent to go 13-3 this year. What they lack is the ability to harness that talent 13 times in the regular season, and the kind of schedule that makes it more possible. This year they have San Fran, Philly and Tennessee, and as always 2 games vs Green Bay giving them 5 games that they can "afford" to lose (ie: no one will be aghast if they lose). That drops them to 11-5. Toss in two games against Chicago that may be a toss up, that could drop them to 9-7. That should be the absolute worst that Lions do this year.

But you toss in an upset win over Green Bay, splitting with Chicago and beating Philly and Tennessee (both well within Detroit's capabilities) and you hit that 13-3 mark. It's not out of the realm of probability for Detroit to do that.

/Picking the Lions to finish tied with Green Bay in overall record, but losing on tiebreakers. GB has a tougher schedule as the Saints are a better team than the Falcons, and the Giants are better than Eagles, so I see them losing one more out of division game than the Lions.
//12-4 for both! I'm not crazy! And yes I will probably be eating this prediction in November. But dammit, it's possible!
///GO LIONS!

I actually agree with you. Detroit DOES have the talent to go 13-3.

The problem is, so does Green Bay and Chicago. And as farked up as the Vikings are right now, they can make a game of it at home. With how brutal the schedule is, I could see DET and CHI going anywhere from 8-8 to 13-3, with GB finishing anywhere from 10-6 to 16-0.

But my original point is that Detroit has a lot of history to get through before they start thinking Super Bowl. Snark, not insight, mostly.

That's why I didn't mention the Super Bowl at all. That ain't gonna happen before 2015, and they need to continue to improve before Super Bowl can seriously be discussed. Heck, I didn't even mention a division championship.

I bet Mikel LeShoure can help Titus Young chill out and deal with his anger management issues.

Jubeebee: Ordinary Genius: 9beers: Lions are going 13-3 this season and winning the NFC.

Lol.

/or are you serious?

9beers is generally recognized as a troll, but it's not a terribly uncommon belief among run of the mill idiots that the Lions are going to the Super Bowl in the next season or two.

The NFC North is a farking meat grinder right now, though. The Lions will contend as long as whatever glue they put on Stafford's shoulders holds up, but if they finish 8-8 I don't think anyone will be surprised.

I disagree about the meat grinder. Perhaps you are putting too much stock in Brandon Marshall, but half the division still sucks.

Well, the Pack should be good, the vikings will suck, and the Bears will be mediocre at best until Cutler is gone. If the lions overachieve, they could take the division.

/ at least the bears draft picks just embarrass them in games.

The Bears added 2 WRs who are better than any of the WRs they had on the roster last year, plus, Michael Bush. Their Offense is MUCH improved. The D is getting old, but, is still solid.

This Lions team reminds me of the Bengals a few years back. All kinds of talent, but, make the playoffs and expect the league will roll over for them + off field issues = fail.

I sound fat: I disagree about the meat grinder. Perhaps you are putting too much stock in Brandon Marshall, but half the division still sucks.

When did Minnesota change it's name to "half the division"?

digistil: I sound fat: I disagree about the meat grinder. Perhaps you are putting too much stock in Brandon Marshall, but half the division still sucks.

When did Minnesota change it's name to "half the division"?

If you think the Bears will have a winning record, I have some oceanfront property in South Dakota to sell you.

/ I thought I made that clear in the last post.
// Lovie will find a way. Epic ineptitude always finds a way.

They're football players. As long as they don't kill anyone, they'll stick around.

Last year was Detroit's year to break out; this year will be the one to regress.

Jubeebee: Ordinary Genius: 9beers: Lions are going 13-3 this season and winning the NFC.

Lol.

/or are you serious?

9beers is generally recognized as a troll, but it's not a terribly uncommon belief among run of the mill idiots that the Lions are going to the Super Bowl in the next season or two.

The NFC North is a farking meat grinder right now, though. The Lions will contend as long as whatever glue they put on Stafford's shoulders holds up, but if they finish 8-8 I don't think anyone will be surprised.

I think anything from 8-8 to 12-4 wouldn't shock too many people (the 12-4 would assume that Chicago and/or Green Bay take a step back this year). 13 is asking too much.

I sound fat: digistil: I sound fat: I disagree about the meat grinder. Perhaps you are putting too much stock in Brandon Marshall, but half the division still sucks.

When did Minnesota change it's name to "half the division"?

If you think the Bears will have a winning record, I have some oceanfront property in South Dakota to sell you.

/ I thought I made that clear in the last post.
// Lovie will find a way. Epic ineptitude always finds a way.

I hope you're right, but I'm not optimistic.

meanmutton: I think anything from 8-8 to 12-4 wouldn't shock too many people (the 12-4 would assume that Chicago and/or Green Bay take a step back this year). 13 is asking too much.

i wouldn't say its impossible. Highly unlikely sure, but not impossible.

digistil: I sound fat: I disagree about the meat grinder. Perhaps you are putting too much stock in Brandon Marshall, but half the division still sucks.

When did Minnesota change it's name to "half the division"?

This.

Bears will still be .500 or better if they stay healthy.

It's going to take 12-4 to win this division. MAYBE 11-5 with a tie-breaker.

The only team NOT in this race is mine.

/*sigh*