Ugh.. Alternet masquerading as Slate.

We asked for inexpensive food, and well, we got it. Just don't ask what's in it....

//Find a reputable butcher, and cook it yourself.

Who doesn't like paying $25/lb for stew meat?

Steak Glue Repeat

I'm shocked that my $9.99 Country Buffet all you can eat steak is substandard!

Well, you can't cook it medium rare, that's for sure. Eff that crap. It might be okay for stews though, but in that case you're using stew meat or another cheap cut anyway.

Ugh. My hubby is trying to export food products from the U.S. to Switzerland and is running into hurdles because of all the GMO in the food here. Good lord is there a lot of GMO- I had no idea. Of course Western Europe doesn't want any of that sh*t in their food.

IF you glued stew meat together to look like a filet, it would still be chuck and it would still be basically unedible when cooked rare. You would never be able to mistake it for real tenderloin.

If you order steak at a chain restaurant you deserve what you get. Steak should only come from an actual steak house or your own kitchen/grill

Even cheap steaks have marbling of fat. How do they fake that? And are they faking the bones?

I'm not buying this.

coco ebert: Ugh. My hubby is trying to export food products from the U.S. to Switzerland and is running into hurdles because of all the GMO in the food here. Good lord is there a lot of GMO- I had no idea. Of course Western Europe doesn't want any of that sh*t in their food.

I still don't understand why, besides technophobia.

Yes, Monsanto's and the other giant agribusinesses are dirty sick farks, but the technology is sound. BT in corn is one objection, I understand, but what about the "enviropig". It's engineered so the pigs can digest the phosphorus in their fodder rather than needed supplements in their feed. That phosphorus ends up in the water and fuels algae blooms and dead zones.

Yes, it is treating a symptom (millions of pigs in CAFOs), but we aren't going to kill demand for pork any time soon.

//Newest conspiracy theory I've heard is that BT crops are an attempt to kill organic farmers that rely on organic BT pesticides by selecting for BT resistant pests.

Not this shiat again.

Transglutaminase is one of the defects in people with Celiacs

Hey Salon, welcome aboard. You're a bit late, so you'll have to stand.

downstairs: Even cheap steaks have marbling of fat. How do they fake that? And are they faking the bones?

I'm not buying this.

They're saying that you could make it look like tenderloin, which is lean and isn't usually served with the bone and you can, technically... but, what really happens is a restaurant will have a piece of tenderloin that isn't round, so they'll use a little "meat glue" to reform it into that shape. They don't take "$4 stew meat" and turn it into filet mignon.

Oh great, now I'm even hungrier.

vpb: Who doesn't like paying $25/lb for stew meat?

I don't like paying $25/lb for any meat. Well, maybe actual Kobe beef. Mmmm...

What an exposé, what a scoop! Didn't list a single restaurant chain that serves fake-steak.

This is what separates "blogging" from "journalism".

imprimere: vpb: Who doesn't like paying $25/lb for stew meat?

I don't like paying $25/lb for any meat. Well, maybe actual Kobe beef. Mmmm...

Are you sure you're buying actual kobe beef? Mmmm?

GoldSpider: What an exposé, what a scoop! Didn't list a single restaurant chain that serves fake-steak.

This is what separates "blogging" from "journalism".

That, and it being a half-assed re-hash of what has already been reported many times.

No reputable steak restaurant would do this. Some shiat like Golden Corral? Maybe, but I don't know what you expect in a six dollar steak.

And why exactly did he jump from meat-glue to stuffed crust pizza?

/bacon sundae...

Starting to look like the hippies and natures nuts were/are on to something.

pheelix: imprimere: vpb: Who doesn't like paying $25/lb for stew meat?

I don't like paying $25/lb for any meat. Well, maybe actual Kobe beef. Mmmm...

Are you sure you're buying actual kobe beef? Mmmm?

Damn the pic is still on my phone!

This will have to substitute

timujin: downstairs: Even cheap steaks have marbling of fat. How do they fake that? And are they faking the bones?

I'm not buying this.

They're saying that you could make it look like tenderloin, which is lean and isn't usually served with the bone and you can, technically... but, what really happens is a restaurant will have a piece of tenderloin that isn't round, so they'll use a little "meat glue" to reform it into that shape.

Or if they have two or more scraps of tenderloin that aren't individually large enough to make a serving, they can "glue" them into one big piece that makes a full serving.

meat0918: coco ebert: Ugh. My hubby is trying to export food products from the U.S. to Switzerland and is running into hurdles because of all the GMO in the food here. Good lord is there a lot of GMO- I had no idea. Of course Western Europe doesn't want any of that sh*t in their food.

I still don't understand why, besides technophobia.

Yes, Monsanto's and the other giant agribusinesses are dirty sick farks, but the technology is sound. BT in corn is one objection, I understand, but what about the "enviropig". It's engineered so the pigs can digest the phosphorus in their fodder rather than needed supplements in their feed. That phosphorus ends up in the water and fuels algae blooms and dead zones.

Yes, it is treating a symptom (millions of pigs in CAFOs), but we aren't going to kill demand for pork any time soon.

//Newest conspiracy theory I've heard is that BT crops are an attempt to kill organic farmers that rely on organic BT pesticides by selecting for BT resistant pests.

Yes, but to use one example, crops altered to have super duper pollen pollinate everything all around them, so that it's hard to grow any open pollinated crops that don't end up with GMO descended plants mixed in. Which besides being like a kind of pollution, Monsanto sues farmers whose crops get dusted with this pollen for growing stuff that has their patented genes in it. Plus it makes it hard for those farmers to sell their product overseas, or to anyone who wants non-GMO whatever. They have to get their crops tested all the time and sometimes will lose out on being able to sell them for a higher price because their product has been contaminated, and not only do they not get compensated for this, if they complain, they get sued for having it on their land in the first place.

CruJones: And why exactly did he jump from meat-glue to stuffed crust pizza?

Ralphie's theme from A Christmas Story was better written.

meat0918: coco ebert: Ugh. My hubby is trying to export food products from the U.S. to Switzerland and is running into hurdles because of all the GMO in the food here. Good lord is there a lot of GMO- I had no idea. Of course Western Europe doesn't want any of that sh*t in their food.

I still don't understand why, besides technophobia.

Yes, Monsanto's and the other giant agribusinesses are dirty sick farks, but the technology is sound. BT in corn is one objection, I understand, but what about the "enviropig". It's engineered so the pigs can digest the phosphorus in their fodder rather than needed supplements in their feed. That phosphorus ends up in the water and fuels algae blooms and dead zones.

Yes, it is treating a symptom (millions of pigs in CAFOs), but we aren't going to kill demand for pork any time soon.

//Newest conspiracy theory I've heard is that BT crops are an attempt to kill organic farmers that rely on organic BT pesticides by selecting for BT resistant pests.

I'm not thoroughly knowledgeable on the subject, but from what I've read I understand both sides. What you say makes sense, but from the Europeans perspective, the long-term effects of industrial GMO is not known and more studies need to be held. Is there a lot of hysteria? Probably. Would it help to have non-industry influenced studies carried out? I would argue, yes.

As a consumer, I feel safer eating food in Switzerland than in the U.S. Industry interests completely dominate our food culture here. It's very difficult to make informed choices when they hide so much of what goes into our food.

So how does this stuff react when a pissed off restaurant worker adds their own protein to the steak?

meat0918: I still don't understand why, besides technophobia.

Two words: genetic homogeneity.

Our food supply plays with a very, very, very dangerous fire.

I'm having steak for dinner tonight.

pheelix: imprimere: vpb: Who doesn't like paying $25/lb for stew meat?

I don't like paying $25/lb for any meat. Well, maybe actual Kobe beef. Mmmm...

Are you sure you're buying actual kobe beef? Mmmm?

Nope. The only actual Kobe beef I've ever eaten was in Japan (shabu shabu style - heavenly). I was also not paying. So, no; I've never purchased Kobe beef. I don't need to click your link to know about Wagyu beef and what's served in the US.

ambercat: Yes, but to use one example, crops altered to have super duper pollen pollinate everything all around them, so that it's hard to grow any open pollinated crops that don't end up with GMO descended plants mixed in. Which besides being like a kind of pollution, Monsanto sues farmers whose crops get dusted with this pollen for growing stuff that has their patented genes in it. Plus it makes it hard for those farmers to sell their product overseas, or to anyone who wants non-GMO whatever. They have to get their crops tested all the time and sometimes will lose out on being able to sell them for a higher price because their product has been contaminated, and not only do they not get compensated for this, if they complain, they get sued for having it on their land in the first place.

This is insane.

Another reason Europeans don't like is GMO because of what it does to agriculture, similar to the type of thing you pointed out. But that's a whole other can of worms.

Now we know what the "cook it well done and smother in ketchup" crowd eats.

My butcher's name is Bob, and he know exactly what to cut for me when I ask for "him, hers, and kids".

meat0918: Alternet masquerading as Slate.

Yeah, who needs facts when we have Fox News, am I right?

NowhereMon: IF you glued stew meat together to look like a filet, it would still be chuck and it would still be basically unedible when cooked rare. You would never be able to mistake it for real tenderloin.

But if you glued together tenderloin chain meat together on the other hand...

If you don't notice, does it really matter?

This is why I only eat food that I've shot myself. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go shoot up the frozen food aisle

I don't eat enough meat to patronize my local butcher that often, but goddamn if that man hasn't cut me some of the best steaks to ever grace a grill. Some things really do deserve their own shops and their own specialists.

ambercat: meat0918: coco ebert: Ugh. My hubby is trying to export food products from the U.S. to Switzerland and is running into hurdles because of all the GMO in the food here. Good lord is there a lot of GMO- I had no idea. Of course Western Europe doesn't want any of that sh*t in their food.

I still don't understand why, besides technophobia.

Yes, Monsanto's and the other giant agribusinesses are dirty sick farks, but the technology is sound. BT in corn is one objection, I understand, but what about the "enviropig". It's engineered so the pigs can digest the phosphorus in their fodder rather than needed supplements in their feed. That phosphorus ends up in the water and fuels algae blooms and dead zones.

Yes, it is treating a symptom (millions of pigs in CAFOs), but we aren't going to kill demand for pork any time soon.

//Newest conspiracy theory I've heard is that BT crops are an attempt to kill organic farmers that rely on organic BT pesticides by selecting for BT resistant pests.

Yes, but to use one example, crops altered to have super duper pollen pollinate everything all around them, so that it's hard to grow any open pollinated crops that don't end up with GMO descended plants mixed in. Which besides being like a kind of pollution, Monsanto sues farmers whose crops get dusted with this pollen for growing stuff that has their patented genes in it. Plus it makes it hard for those farmers to sell their product overseas, or to anyone who wants non-GMO whatever. They have to get their crops tested all the time and sometimes will lose out on being able to sell them for a higher price because their product has been contaminated, and not only do they not get compensated for this, if they complain, they get sued for having it on their land in the first place.

Hmm, well, some "organic" farmers got together and sued Monsanto precisely because they claimed that because of the cross-pollination, they lost sales because they couldn't guarantee that their crop wasn't GMO.

And failed miserably.

Now I guess you could say it was because "OMG CONSPIRACY", but really I think it's because the farmers were idiots. Organic farming especially is full of lies and deception, so it's no wonder that when these farmers need to tell the truth, they fark it up.

Eat steak, eat steak eat a big ol' steer.
Eat steak, eat steak do we have one dear?
Eat beef, eat beef it's a mighty good food.
It's a grade A meal when I'm in the mood.

Cowpokes'll come from a near and far
When you throw a few rib-eyes on the fire.
Roberto Duran ate two before a fight,
'Cause it gave a lot of mighty men a lot of mighty might.

Eat steak, eat steak eat a big ol' steer.
Eat steak, eat steak do we have one dear?
Eat beef, eat beef it's a mighty good food.
It's a grade A meal when I'm in the mood.

Eat meat, eat meat, filet mignon.
Eat meat, eat meat, eat it all day long.
Eat a few T-bones till you get your fill.
Eat a New York cut, hot off the grill.

Eat steak, eat steak eat a big ol' steer.
Eat steak, eat steak do we have one dear?
Eat beef, eat beef it's a mighty good food.
It's a grade A meal when I'm in the mood.

Eat a cow, eat a cow 'cuase it's good for you.
Eat a cow, eat a cow it's a thing that goes "Mooooo".

Look at all the cows in the slaughterhouse yard.
Gotta hit'em in the head, gotta hit'em real hard.
First you gotta clean'em then the butcher cuts'em up,
Throws it on a scale, throws an eyeball in a cup.

Saw a big Brahma steer standing right over there,
So I rustled up a fire cooked him medium rare.
Bar-B-Q'ed his brisket, a roasted his rump.
Fed my dog that ol' Brangus steer's hump.

Eat steak, eat steak eat a big ol' steer.
Eat steak, eat steak do we have one dear?
Eat beef, eat beef it's a mighty good food.
It's a grade A meal when I'm in the mood.

This is actually very dangerous because the dangerous parts of the meat for your health is the outside because it could be contaminated. So now if you are ordering something rare or medium rare you are eating an outside piece that might not even be cooked properly.

This should be banned by the government because of the food safety issues it brings up.

Dwedit: NowhereMon: IF you glued stew meat together to look like a filet, it would still be chuck and it would still be basically unedible when cooked rare. You would never be able to mistake it for real tenderloin.

But if you glued together tenderloin chain meat together on the other hand...

Heresy! Those cuts are scooby snacks for the kitchen staff!

James F. Campbell: meat0918: I still don't understand why, besides technophobia.

Two words: genetic homogeneity.

Our food supply plays with a very, very, very dangerous fire.

GMO and genetic homogeneity are entirely different concepts. Both the potato famine and the Gros Michele extinction occurred prior to lab-modified crops.

And as to actual modification, we've been selectively breeding plants for tens of millennia.

balisane: I don't eat enough meat to patronize my local butcher that often, but goddamn if that man hasn't cut me some of the best steaks to ever grace a grill. Some things really do deserve their own shops and their own specialists.

And the stores in my state every few years wants them all kicked out so they can hire kids instead getting paid a little above minimum wage. Funny when they have the union negotiations people always seem to forget they are also talking about the butchers and other people who should know a lot about food handling and not just be whoever they can find to pay the least.

coco ebert: ambercat: Yes, but to use one example, crops altered to have super duper pollen pollinate everything all around them, so that it's hard to grow any open pollinated crops that don't end up with GMO descended plants mixed in. Which besides being like a kind of pollution, Monsanto sues farmers whose crops get dusted with this pollen for growing stuff that has their patented genes in it. Plus it makes it hard for those farmers to sell their product overseas, or to anyone who wants non-GMO whatever. They have to get their crops tested all the time and sometimes will lose out on being able to sell them for a higher price because their product has been contaminated, and not only do they not get compensated for this, if they complain, they get sued for having it on their land in the first place.

This is insane.

Another reason Europeans don't like is GMO because of what it does to agriculture, similar to the type of thing you pointed out. But that's a whole other can of worms.

Also, it gives uptight Europeans an excuse to twaddle that stick wedged up their ass.

If you buy the $5 "filet mignon" at the buffet place and expect to get actual filet mignon cut... well... you may be an credulous idiot.

Broktun: Now we know what the "cook it well done and smother in ketchup" crowd eats.

My butcher's name is Bob, and he know exactly what to cut for me when I ask for "him, hers, and kids".

well hello money bags. you probably buy brand name bologna too, huh?

This text is now purple: And as to actual modification, we've been selectively breeding plants for tens of millennia.

Yes I always hate when people go "We are know genetically modifying our food" we have been doing that for what like 30,000 years now? All the food you eat even when you were a kid has no bearing what so ever to food that is "wild".

I really think people don't understand the agricultural revolution or what has been done to fruits/vegetable through the ages.

meat0918: Ugh.. Alternet masquerading as Slate.

We asked for inexpensive food, and well, we got it. Just don't ask what's in it....

//Find a reputable butcher, and cook it yourself.

Done in one.

Newsflash: other people don't care about your health when they sell you food. Get over it.

What the hell is in Omaha Steaks?

I assumed it was just meat-flavoroed water injected to make weight and flavor. Now it seems it's more like meat goo-glue. Eew.

meat0918: We asked for inexpensive food, and well, we got it. Just don't ask what's in it....

//Find a reputable butcher, and cook it yourself.

Exactly. Good steak costs more, but it's good. If you go to Western Sizzler to eat STFU about quality.