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   Fark site move (and 2-4 hours downtime) on the evening of Sat June 30. We'll try to webcast the carnage

30 Jun 2012 02:28 PM   |   6343 clicks   |   Fark

On the evening of Saturday, June 30, we'll be moving all of Fark's equipment to a new colocation provider.

We'll be down for a couple of hours while this happens, starting around 7 pm US/Eastern time, probably between two and four hours... hopefully closer to two. We'll keep a static copy of all the main pages and tabs up on a temporary web server, so you'll still have something to read. Comments, user profiles, link submissions, mobile apps, user profiles, and all of TotalFark will be down during the move though.

All of our numeric IP addresses will change during this move. We'll take the usual steps** to try to ensure your ISP picks up the change as fast as possible. Worst case, you might have to reboot your computer once after we move. We'll have directions up (at the old IP address) explaining what to do at that point, so no worries.

Last time we did this, in October 2006, we were moving the servers 500 miles. This time we're moving them about 500 feet, or about one block down the street. So we won't be down anywhere near as long. Still, it takes a while to disassemble a full rack's worth of gear, roll it down the street, and re-bolt it into a new rack, and change all the IP addresses... longer if it decides to rain that night.

We're also going to try to webcast the carnage, and the before & after drinking, on this Ustream channel, because, hey, why the hell not, it might be funny... assuming we can get it working over 3G/LTE... More details will be posted here, on our outage page, and on the main site if necessary...


** the usual steps = dropping DNS TTL's down and changing root nameserver glue records a full week in advance

Some new complications w/ getting out of the old building may mean this takes a few hours longer than expected, but, hopefully not. :)


Yes, there are very good reasons for not "just putting it in the cloud". Read the entire thread before suggesting it. :)
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Nem Wan     
So it was hosted on MobileMe?

23 Jun 2012 05:46 PM
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Warthog    [TotalFark]  
I'll get over it. May I suggest for that one night, you sprinkle foobies links on the static image on the main page?

23 Jun 2012 05:48 PM
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lockers     
Nem Wan: So it was hosted on MobileMe?

Close, myspace.

23 Jun 2012 05:48 PM
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God-is-a-Taco    [TotalFark]  
"We're also going to try to webcast the carnage"

Discovery Channel and TLC already in bidding wars (which you can watch on History Channel) over this content.

23 Jun 2012 05:49 PM
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expobill     
but first, we need to decide what city the aliens should nuke.

23 Jun 2012 05:51 PM
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lilbjorn     
Cool. See ya on Tuesday (if it goes anything like our server moves do).

23 Jun 2012 05:51 PM
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Curious    [TotalFark]  
Last time we did this, in October 2006,

how time flies.

23 Jun 2012 05:52 PM
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davidphogan     
I just want to tell you, good luck. We're all counting on you.

23 Jun 2012 05:52 PM
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Honest Bender    [TotalFark]  
Looks like they were with Open World, Inc.

Who is the new host, Drew?

/Works in colocation.
//Professional interest.

23 Jun 2012 05:52 PM
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JustSeanV67     
Is there a designated drinker during this move?

23 Jun 2012 05:53 PM
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theorellior    [TotalFark]  
God-is-a-Taco: Discovery Channel and TLC already in bidding wars (which you can watch on History Channel) over this content.

cf.badassdigest.com

23 Jun 2012 05:54 PM
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skinink     
"Last time we did this, in October 2006, we were moving the servers 500 miles. This time we're moving them about 500 feet..."

So you would move the server 500 miles and you would move it 500 feet more just to be the Fark.com to move over 500 miles to melt down on the new server's floor. With some Maker's Mark.

23 Jun 2012 05:55 PM
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Mike    [TotalFark]  
Honest Bender: Who is the new host, Drew?

QX. We prefer working with local folks when we can.

23 Jun 2012 05:55 PM
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Craptastic     
Someone explain this to a non-computer guy. Why might I have to restart my computer?

23 Jun 2012 05:58 PM
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Mike    [TotalFark]  
Craptastic: Someone explain this to a non-computer guy. Why might I have to restart my computer?

When you type in www.fark.com, it translates that to a numeric address, and remembers it for a while so it doesn't have to keep re-translating it over and over. That numeric address is going to change, so if your computer remembers it for too long, it'll keep going to the old one when we change it. The fastest way (but not the only way) to make it forget the old one is to reboot...

But we have taken some steps that should minimize the length of time it remembers things, so hopefully you won't have to... and hopefully things will just plain work. :)

23 Jun 2012 06:03 PM
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LaughingRadish     
Craptastic: Someone explain this to a non-computer guy. Why might I have to restart my computer?

In other words, you might be running Windows. Any time Windows encounters something that's out of the ordinary (or even well-within the ordinary), a reboot is often required.

23 Jun 2012 06:03 PM
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Cubs300     
Craptastic: Someone explain this to a non-computer guy. Why might I have to restart my computer?

So the tubes can recalibrate to the flux capacitor. Standard procedure.

23 Jun 2012 06:03 PM
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Jon iz teh kewl     
password "letchowmein"

23 Jun 2012 06:05 PM
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gingerjet     
When did Drew give up his ISP business?

23 Jun 2012 06:06 PM
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Mike    [TotalFark]  
gingerjet: When did Drew give up his ISP business?

March 2002

23 Jun 2012 06:07 PM
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Gunz_drawn     
Craptastic: Someone explain this to a non-computer guy. Why might I have to restart my computer?

YES. I would like to know why too. My "puter" is almost 7 years old and the re-start string has been long gone.

23 Jun 2012 06:07 PM
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Pichu0102     
Don't do it, man. Do you know what would happen if the Fark politics tab regular attendees had nothing to do for that long?
Blood in the streets don't begin to describe it.

23 Jun 2012 06:12 PM
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Craptastic     
Mike: Craptastic: Someone explain this to a non-computer guy. Why might I have to restart my computer?

When you type in www.fark.com, it translates that to a numeric address, and remembers it for a while so it doesn't have to keep re-translating it over and over. That numeric address is going to change, so if your computer remembers it for too long, it'll keep going to the old one when we change it. The fastest way (but not the only way) to make it forget the old one is to reboot...

But we have taken some steps that should minimize the length of time it remembers things, so hopefully you won't have to... and hopefully things will just plain work. :)


Ah. That makes sense. Thanks, Mike! Good luck with the move particulars.

23 Jun 2012 06:15 PM
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BarkingUnicorn    [TotalFark]  
Gunz_drawn: Craptastic: Someone explain this to a non-computer guy. Why might I have to restart my computer?

YES. I would like to know why too. My "puter" is almost 7 years old and the re-start string has been long gone.


"Re-start string?" Are you using a lawn mower as a power supply? THAT would make a cool video!

23 Jun 2012 06:16 PM
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Purelilac    [TotalFark]  
I still haven't recovered from the October '06 move. I wake up in a cold sweat on the anniversary each year.

23 Jun 2012 06:17 PM
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redoctober65    [TotalFark]  
iIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEE!,


*curls into a fetal position*

23 Jun 2012 06:18 PM
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Coco LaFemme     
I guess Drew wants to make sure that the servers can handle the onslaught of derp this November come election time.

23 Jun 2012 06:18 PM
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texdent    [TotalFark]  
But will we get over it?

23 Jun 2012 06:18 PM
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OtherLittleGuy     
"Last time we did this, in October 2006, we were moving the servers 500 miles. ."

...and this happened by the time they got back up:

sharetv.org

23 Jun 2012 06:19 PM
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ultraholland     
and all of TotalFark will be down during the move though.

I demand a refund.

23 Jun 2012 06:20 PM
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flucto    [TotalFark]  
Shouldn't there be an associated Fark party so we can all push/carry/tow/buildrocketsled to relocate the servers? Maybe with a prize for best costume?

I think your PR agency needs a quick firin' for missing this opp.

23 Jun 2012 06:21 PM
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BoboRod    [TotalFark]  
Gunz_drawn: Craptastic: Someone explain this to a non-computer guy. Why might I have to restart my computer?

YES. I would like to know why too. My "puter" is almost 7 years old and the re-start string has been long gone.


Start>Run>cmd Type ipconfig /flushdns

23 Jun 2012 06:22 PM
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jtown     
lockers: Nem Wan: So it was hosted on MobileMe?

Close, myspace.


Geocities.

23 Jun 2012 06:23 PM
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Snort     
Windoze users can run cmd as administrator and run "ipconfig /flushdns". This will cause your machine to load new addresses.

No cure for for root dns server propagation. That is when the internets gets Fark.com new numbers.

23 Jun 2012 06:24 PM
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dramboxf    [TotalFark]  
Nem Wan: So it was hosted on MobileMe?

So. Much. Win.

I do private tech support. I've made a TON over the last few weeks migrating Mobile Me clients to iCloud[tm]

23 Jun 2012 06:24 PM
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Endive Wombat    [TotalFark]  
Mike - Will there be an award for the farker who gets the last post before the site goes down?

23 Jun 2012 06:25 PM
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Somacandra    [TotalFark]  
LaughingRadish: In other words, you might be running Windows. Any time Windows encounters something that's out of the ordinary (or even well-within the ordinary), a reboot is often required.

i.imgur.com

That's why I only run OS/2 Warp 4.

Nary a problem with my Netscape Navigator.

23 Jun 2012 06:25 PM
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X15     
BoboRod: Gunz_drawn: Craptastic: Someone explain this to a non-computer guy. Why might I have to restart my computer?

YES. I would like to know why too. My "puter" is almost 7 years old and the re-start string has been long gone.

Start>Run>cmd Type ipconfig /flushdns


This.

This is not the fastest way? I could walk my grandmother through this easily enough.

Once again you show us just how much respect you have for your users, Mike.

23 Jun 2012 06:25 PM
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martid4    [TotalFark]  
Craptastic: Someone explain this to a non-computer guy. Why might I have to restart my computer?

You don't, we're just looking to see how many idiots fall for this and you're the first.

23 Jun 2012 06:26 PM
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middleoftheday    [TotalFark]  
skinink: So you would move the server 500 miles and you would move it 500 feet more just to be the Fark.com to move over 500 miles to melt down on the new server's floor. With some Maker's Mark.

...

Well done.

23 Jun 2012 06:26 PM
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Third In Line    [TotalFark]  
You said "rack" twice. You like racks?

*giggles*

23 Jun 2012 06:27 PM
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AeAe     
Change the TTL value on the DNS record to 5 minutes or something short. That should speed up the propagation of the DNS

23 Jun 2012 06:27 PM
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ds_4815     
Mike: But we have taken some steps that should minimize the length of time it remembers things.

www.brianweb.net

23 Jun 2012 06:27 PM
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OgreMagi     
Here's roughly the exchange we had when planning a move.

Geeks: We're going to have a one to two day outage to move the equipment to the new colo in another state.
Middle managers: We can't have an outage!
Geeks: Then you'll have to give us the budget to buy duplicate equipment.
Middle managers: You can't have the money. Find another way.
Geeks: We can get by moving half the servers at a time with some reduced performance, but it's not possible without another filer. You need to give us the budget for another filer, which we need anyway.
Middle managers: You can't have any money. Just figure out how to move everything without downtime.
Geek: Are you really that stupid?

Note, the last line was not spoken out loud.

23 Jun 2012 06:28 PM
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Pope Larry II    [TotalFark]  
You mean I may have to interact with actual humans during the outage?

For you Toronto farkers, Illusiniod, featuring farker Nug, have a show at the comedy bar that night.

23 Jun 2012 06:28 PM
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McFifenstein     
oh no
whatever will I do with myself all night?

oh yeah, cigarettes and rape.

23 Jun 2012 06:29 PM
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Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener     
I read that entire blog post in the voice of the narrator from the 1960's Batman show.

It needs more wacky alliteration, is what I'm trying to say.

23 Jun 2012 06:29 PM
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etherknot     
Fark goes down... post ponies!!!i!1!!

Oh wait...

23 Jun 2012 06:30 PM
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dramboxf    [TotalFark]  
Third In Line: You said "rack" twice. You like racks?

*giggles*


www.userfriendly.org

/oblig
/hot like a server with a busted case fan

23 Jun 2012 06:30 PM
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Third In Line    [TotalFark]  
TMLO apparently already got into the MM.

23 Jun 2012 06:30 PM
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