beta_plus: The morning meeting was organized in a conference room on the top floor of one of the World Trade Center towers. The date was September 11, 2001. "

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The day the empire died....

The conspiracy theories behind that game are some of my favorites.

1) The Soviets threw the game to make the US feel better about the invasion of Afghanistan

2) The X-Files: Cigarette Smoking Man drugged the Soviet goalie just enough to slow him down but not have anyone notice.
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The day the empire died....

The conspiracy theories behind that game are some of my favorites.

1) The Soviets threw the game to make the US feel better about the invasion of Afghanistan

2) The X-Files: Cigarette Smoking Man drugged the Soviet goalie just enough to slow him down but not have anyone notice.

Found this:

Link

"This is actually true. The Russian players were ordered to throw the game with the Americans... and in those days, you did not disobey direct orders of the Politburo.

However, after the regime change, some of the Russian players involved wanted to go public with the revelation. But being team players, they postponed their public announcement until the entire team agreed with the approach.

Late in the summer of 2001, the CIA got a wind of this Russian plan. Since this kind of a revelation would likely damage America's international image, the White House organized a meeting with the Russian hockey players to persuade them to keep silent. In exchange, the Russians thought that they would be promised rich, dollar-denominated pensions for the rest of their lives.

The morning meeting was organized in a conference room on the top floor of one of the World Trade Center towers. The date was September 11, 2001.

Thanks beta_plus those are classic..... "I want to believe...."

Another excellent look at the decay of the Soviet Empire:

From an old Fark thread

Rantoul Il has something like this.

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The day the empire died....

The conspiracy theories behind that game are some of my favorites.

1) The Soviets threw the game to make the US feel better about the invasion of Afghanistan

2) The X-Files: Cigarette Smoking Man drugged the Soviet goalie just enough to slow him down but not have anyone notice.

Found this:

Link

"This is actually true. The Russian players were ordered to throw the game with the Americans... and in those days, you did not disobey direct orders of the Politburo.

However, after the regime change, some of the Russian players involved wanted to go public with the revelation. But being team players, they postponed their public announcement until the entire team agreed with the approach.

Late in the summer of 2001, the CIA got a wind of this Russian plan. Since this kind of a revelation would likely damage America's international image, the White House organized a meeting with the Russian hockey players to persuade them to keep silent. In exchange, the Russians thought that they would be promised rich, dollar-denominated pensions for the rest of their lives.

The morning meeting was organized in a conference room on the top floor of one of the World Trade Center towers. The date was September 11, 2001.

So what ended up happening? Did they just decide not to come out with the story?

signaljammer: Rantoul Il has something like this.

Ah, Chanute AFB. It was practically closed when I was there in 1991.

Dancin_In_Anson: Charlie Freak: I'll just leave this here.

HA!

Yeah, you might as well be my cold-war archaeologist doppelganger.

Charlie Freak: Yeah, you might as well be my cold-war archaeologist doppelganger.

Well, I live about 20 or so miles off the north end of the runway at Dyess. In the early 60's Dyess had an Atlas F wing and there were two silos within 6 miles of town*. My younger Son was assigned Alas Babylon in his sophomore English class. I read it when I was in high school and enjoyed it so I read it again. When I told him about the two missiles, we got to talking to some of the locals who remembered when they were active and it kind of snowballed from there.

I grew up during the latter part of the cold war after the "duck and cover" phase and to be honest, I never really worried about it even though tensions were supposedly at an all time high. I really enjoy reading about what was going on at the time and coming across nuggets like this video of a MITO exercise at Griffis. Made me wonder what the locals thought when watching them go out like that.

*One is owned by the local school district and is sealed. The other is privately owned. I don't know what the owner has done with it but I understand he's a bit odd. Word is he bought it before Y2K just in case.

Dancin_In_Anson:

Well, I lived about 6 or so miles to north of the runway at Mather, 8 miles from McClellan. In the late 60's Beale had a Titan I wing and there were silos within 12 miles of town. I was assigned Alas Babylon in my sophomore English class.

I grew up during the latter part of the cold war after the "duck and cover" phase and to be honest, I always worried about it because tensions were supposedly at an all time high. I really enjoy reading about what was going on at the time and coming across nuggets like this video of a MITO exercise at Griffiss. Made me wonder what the locals thought when watching them go out like that.

See? No italics necessary.

Charlie Freak: See? No italics necessary.

Heh.

You have mail.

Curious: someone show this to Mitt.

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney called Russia "without question our number one geopolitical foe" Monday on CNN.

This.

Harry Freakstorm

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Fort Ord, California

Came here to mention Fort Ord. Place looks like a ghost town. Surprised no horror flick has been filmed there.

signaljammer: Rantoul Il has something like this.

Yes. BG's Pancake and Steak. Home of my personal breakfast favorite: Chili Pancakes.

Charlie Freak: Made me wonder what the locals thought when watching them go out like that.

"meh...another exercise."
Probably 1/2 the 'locals' were associated with the base.

/was stationed at Griffiss 78-80
//49 FIS

Curious: someone show this to Mitt.

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney called Russia "without question our number one geopolitical foe" Monday on CNN.

But what might save us (me, and you) is if the Russians love their abandoned military bases too.

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The day the empire died....

The conspiracy theories behind that game are some of my favorites.

1) The Soviets threw the game to make the US feel better about the invasion of Afghanistan

2) The X-Files: Cigarette Smoking Man drugged the Soviet goalie just enough to slow him down but not have anyone notice.

Found this:

Link

"This is actually true. The Russian players were ordered to throw the game with the Americans... and in those days, you did not disobey direct orders of the Politburo.

However, after the regime change, some of the Russian players involved wanted to go public with the revelation. But being team players, they postponed their public announcement until the entire team agreed with the approach.

Late in the summer of 2001, the CIA got a wind of this Russian plan. Since this kind of a revelation would likely damage America's international image, the White House organized a meeting with the Russian hockey players to persuade them to keep silent. In exchange, the Russians thought that they would be promised rich, dollar-denominated pensions for the rest of their lives.

The morning meeting was organized in a conference room on the top floor of one of the World Trade Center towers. The date was September 11, 2001. "

Yes, an uncited forum post proves that the Russia was totally trying to not hurt our feelings, and did so by throw...oh it was a joke post. Carry on.

Looked through the slideshow (thanks subby by the way).

A few things:

Like 5 or 6 of the things weren't bases, they were, well....just old pictures

Most of these (maybe 1 or 2 weren't) were in the ass end of nowhere. (Mongolia, Latvia, the guy said one was in the middle of 4 prisons in Kazakhstan or something)

Just....I dunno, takes a lot of the "oomph" out of the images for some reason

beta_plus: The morning meeting was organized in a conference room on the top floor of one of the World Trade Center towers. The date was September 11, 2001. "

Is that from the BS-Files?

jntaylor63: Curious: someone show this to Mitt.

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney called Russia "without question our number one geopolitical foe" Monday on CNN.

This.

Maybe they are trying to lull you into a false sense of security, didja ever think aboot that?

An old US base, RAF Upper Heyford, UK (google map link)


Those are apparently new cars, waiting to be sold.

Memories, light the corners of my mind
Misty watercolor memories of the way we were.

Awesome places, I'm sure, but the photography seemed a little...lacking, I guess. Great effort though, and I'm sure the project was a singular adventure.

I've heard that the infamous "We will bury you" statement wasn't necessarily a good translation and meant more along the lines of "You (capitalism) will fall into the dustbin of history" rather than "We will kill you," but people naturally assumed the second interpretation.

rufus-t-firefly: whither_apophis: ZAZ: I've seen pictures of abandoned bunkers in East Germany that were apparently designed to withstand the nuclear war that would break out when the Soviets invaded West Germany. Not pleasant places to live.

Hah! just wait until the German zombies attack, then you'll be wanting a bunker.

You know who else wanted a German bunker?

German Zombies, you say?

Knows a thing or two about that:

jntaylor63: Curious: someone show this to Mitt.

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney called Russia "without question our number one geopolitical foe" Monday on CNN.

This.

mitt forgets the orange menace of china....

tgambitg: rufus-t-firefly: whither_apophis: ZAZ: I've seen pictures of abandoned bunkers in East Germany that were apparently designed to withstand the nuclear war that would break out when the Soviets invaded West Germany. Not pleasant places to live.

Hah! just wait until the German zombies attack, then you'll be wanting a bunker.

You know who else wanted a German bunker?

German Zombies, you say?

Knows a thing or two about that:

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Gentlemen!

"Built in 1982, this edifice typifies the minimalist geometrical Soviet architecture that was characteristic under Khrushchev." ..who had *died* more than decade earlier. His successor, Brezhnev, died the same year this was built. So, is the point that it was an older style of architecture for its time, or that styles had not changed over time, or what? Please writers, just TRY to communicate something, will you?

"primed for tracking incoming westerly missiles"

So.. only missiles headed from that direction, then? Because you'd think a missile-tracking facility would want to be able to track missiles from more than one direction.

"The Communists controlled Poland until the late 80s, when economic instability and the destabilization of the USSR took hold."

So, Lech Walesa and the Solidarnosc movement were just bystanders, then?

EverybodyPanic!: I wish the captions had described more of the actual scenes and the purposes of some of those empty rooms.

Overall, I estimate that the amount of text having to do with the photographer is about twice that about the things he photographed. From that, I think it's pretty clear what this little photo essay is really about. So while I'm as disappointed as you are, I'm sadly not surprised.

AlteredChemical: Looked through the slideshow (thanks subby by the way).

A few things:

Like 5 or 6 of the things weren't bases, they were, well....just old pictures

Most of these (maybe 1 or 2 weren't) were in the ass end of nowhere. (Mongolia, Latvia, the guy said one was in the middle of 4 prisons in Kazakhstan or something)

Just....I dunno, takes a lot of the "oomph" out of the images for some reason

As near as I can tell, this is more about this particular guy going to these places than about the places themselves. I guess we're supposed to be wowed that he went to all these different remote places, his whole process of doing that, the difficulties he encountered, and so on. The photos then become evidence of his travels, more than a documentary of their subjects.

Need_MindBleach: I've heard that the infamous "We will bury you" statement wasn't necessarily a good translation and meant more along the lines of "You (capitalism) will fall into the dustbin of history" rather than "We will kill you," but people naturally assumed the second interpretation.

According to Wikipedia, it's more of a poor translation, and Khrushchev himself sought to clarify it later.