Seems like the military has managed to roll back almost every gain made by the revolution and Shafik's election would be the nail in the coffin.

Well, as long as they are killing each other they arnt killing anyone else.


/I've chosen to look on the bright side today...

Might I suggest we not send female or pretty reporters there for a bit longer. Last time we nearly lost the pretty guy from CNN.

Those 'soldier-friend of the people!' signs may have been premature.

This tastes like propaganda.

Juntas - how do they work?

The Arab Spring is over, and Winter is coming. If I could offer one bit of advice to our Egyptian friends, it would be this

"These are the times that try men's souls: The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of his country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman.

Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as FREEDOM should not be highly rated"

Better than having a bunch of militant Islamic whack balls in charge.

Isn't Arab Spring air so fresh and calming?

spentmiles: Better than having a bunch of militant Islamic whack balls in charge.

Yes, militant Ismamic whack glans will do just fine for now, don't you thing, spentmiles?

JackieRabbit: Isn't Arab Spring air so fresh and calming?

spentmiles: Better than having a bunch of militant Islamic whack balls in charge.

Yes, militant Ismamic whack glands will do just fine for now, don't you thing, spentmiles?

Masturbate much?

Meet the new boss, etc.

I really, really hope there is no violence. I don't want any Egyptians hurt, of course, but more selfishly, I have a very good friend visiting Israel and Egypt for the next two and a half weeks, and I don't want anything to happen to her. :(

chuggernaught: Meet the new boss, etc.

Came here to say this. Townshend's Law is in full effect.

I_C_Weener: Might I suggest we not send female or pretty reporters there for a bit longer. Last time we nearly lost the pretty guy from CNN.

Agreed, they were treated roughly....roughly.

We've been around how long on this planet now and yet half the people in this world still can't figure out how to govern themselves decently.

I thought this is what everyone wanted because Democracy isn't valid when muslims win elections.

"Moussa said the previously instituted constitutional panel was "unsatisfactory for many parties" because of the influence in it held by the Muslim Brotherhood."

The most important part of that story was the last line.

Hey Egyptian military, ya we really don't like the Muslim Brotherhood having a chance to grab this much power in your country, and if you like all that aid you are getting we think it is a good idea for you to dissolve parliament. Also if you could give us a new Mubarak that would be swell

-Signed USA

Snarfangel: I really, really hope there is no violence. I don't want any Egyptians hurt, of course, but more selfishly, I have a very good friend visiting Israel and Egypt for the next two and a half weeks, and I don't want anything to happen to her

If she's visiting Israel first and then Egypt i would suggest not wearing anything with Hebrew letters or flags on bags and such. Egyptian mobs tend to get rapey.
I also suggest dressing modestly to prevent this.

Sybarite: Seems like the military has managed to roll back almost every gain made by the revolution and Shafik's election would be the nail in the coffin.

Would you prefer that the Muslim brotherhood won the election? This way, Egypt MIGHT stay secular.

/ both are bad options; one, however, is slightly better than the other

Some called the move political as the parliament was dominated by Islamists, a group long viewed with suspicion by the military.

Im ok with this

TappingTheVein: Snarfangel: I really, really hope there is no violence. I don't want any Egyptians hurt, of course, but more selfishly, I have a very good friend visiting Israel and Egypt for the next two and a half weeks, and I don't want anything to happen to her

If she's visiting Israel first and then Egypt i would suggest not wearing anything with Hebrew letters or flags on bags and such. Egyptian mobs tend to get rapey.
I also suggest dressing modestly to prevent this.

Also, if she is black, she should probably ditch the Israel leg of the trip.

iheartscotch: Sybarite: Seems like the military has managed to roll back almost every gain made by the revolution and Shafik's election would be the nail in the coffin.

Would you prefer that the Muslim brotherhood won the election? This way, Egypt MIGHT stay secular.

/ both are bad options; one, however, is slightly better than the other

Everytime I see Muslim Brotherhood I think they should be led by either Kane or Magneto, but I can't decide which.

HotWingConspiracy: I thought this is what everyone wanted because Democracy isn't valid when muslims win elections

Because if there's anything that spells 'democracy' it's fundamentalist islamic nutjobs like the Muslim Brotherhood.
Here, let their presidential candidate spell it out for you.

"Moussa said the previously instituted constitutional panel was "unsatisfactory for many parties" because of the influence in it held by the Muslim Brotherhood."

Yeah, I kinda have to agree with them on that one. No one group having any sort of advantage over the rest is pretty damn vital to a democracy.

kindms: "Moussa said the previously instituted constitutional panel was "unsatisfactory for many parties" because of the influence in it held by the Muslim Brotherhood."

Moussa caused mabbe one, two-y lettle bitty axadentes, huh? Yud-say boom da gassar, den crashin der boss's heylibber, Den banished.

HotWingConspiracy: Also, if she is black, she should probably ditch the Israel leg of the trip

Sure, if she's an illegal work seeking alien trying to break the law.

TappingTheVein: HotWingConspiracy: I thought this is what everyone wanted because Democracy isn't valid when muslims win elections

Because if there's anything that spells 'democracy' it's fundamentalist islamic nutjobs like the Muslim Brotherhood.
Here, let their presidential candidate spell it out for you.

See?

Not valid when Muslim. Little known clause to democracy.

Why are we (America) not putting a stop to this evil? Why are we not bringing them FREEDOM and DEMOCRACY?

Despite having the name "Muslim" in their name, there is nothing about the Muslim Bortherhood that should be scary to the west. They are far more moderate than the Salafist parties that have been springing up lately, they are committed to electoral democracy, and are pretty decent practical polticians.

TappingTheVein: HotWingConspiracy: Also, if she is black, she should probably ditch the Israel leg of the trip

Sure, if she's an illegal work seeking alien trying to break the law.

I'm sure Israeli mobs that tend to get firebomby will wait to see her ID.

HotWingConspiracy: See?

Not valid when Muslim. Little known clause to democracy.

See ? this is how an ignorant person refuses to comprehend reality even when it is literally spelled out for him by none other that the actual presidential candidate.

I don't mind repeating, maybe you missed it:
Because if there's anything that spells 'democracy' it's fundamentalist islamic nutjobs like the Muslim Brotherhood.
Here, let their presidential candidate spell it out for you.

Magorn: Despite having the name "Muslim" in their name, there is nothing about the Muslim Bortherhood that should be scary to the west. They are far more moderate than the Salafist parties that have been springing up lately, they are committed to electoral democracy, and are pretty decent practical polticians.

They need a re-branding then. How about, The Harry Potter Quintet, or The Dave's Rib Shack Party (All Night), or The Pastrami Files?

TappingTheVein: HotWingConspiracy: See?

Not valid when Muslim. Little known clause to democracy.

See ? this is how an ignorant person refuses to comprehend reality even when it is literally spelled out for him by none other that the actual presidential candidate.

I don't mind repeating, maybe you missed it:
Because if there's anything that spells 'democracy' it's fundamentalist islamic nutjobs like the Muslim Brotherhood.
Here, let their presidential candidate spell it out for you.

I thank you for proving my point. I even teed it up with you in mind. You're nothing if not predictable.

Snarfangel: kindms: "Moussa said the previously instituted constitutional panel was "unsatisfactory for many parties" because of the influence in it held by the Muslim Brotherhood."

Moussa caused mabbe one, two-y lettle bitty axadentes, huh? Yud-say boom da gassar, den crashin der boss's heylibber, Den banished.

BURN IN HELL!

HotWingConspiracy: I'm sure Israeli mobs that tend to get firebomby will wait to see her ID

Yes! because when in Israel there is one incident in Jerusalem where people firebomb a house of illegal work seeking aliens it means in Israel they firebomb black people on a regular basis!

Magorn: Despite having the name "Muslim" in their name, there is nothing about the Muslim Bortherhood that should be scary to the west. They are far more moderate than the Salafist parties that have been springing up lately, they are committed to electoral democracy, and are pretty decent practical polticians.

Sorry but most of the west isn't for the death penalty for blasphemy against Islam, death penalty for gays, forced ehad coverings, etc.

HotWingConspiracy: I thank you for proving my point. I even teed it up with you in mind. You're nothing if not predictable.

How stupid can you be if you can't understand that what will happen in a muslim brotherhood ruled Egypt will be the polar opposite of democracy even when the muslim brotherhood's candidate spells it out for you ?

>>there is nothing about the Muslim Bortherhood that should be scary to the west.

No kidding. Explosions are fun! Lighten up, people!

HotWingConspiracy: TappingTheVein: Snarfangel: I really, really hope there is no violence. I don't want any Egyptians hurt, of course, but more selfishly, I have a very good friend visiting Israel and Egypt for the next two and a half weeks, and I don't want anything to happen to her

If she's visiting Israel first and then Egypt i would suggest not wearing anything with Hebrew letters or flags on bags and such. Egyptian mobs tend to get rapey.
I also suggest dressing modestly to prevent this.

Also, if she is black, she should probably ditch the Israel leg of the trip.

She's white, Catholic (more likely to wear a cross than anything with Hebrew lettering), and tends to dress like a school teacher, since that's what she is. :)

TappingTheVein: HotWingConspiracy: I'm sure Israeli mobs that tend to get firebomby will wait to see her ID

Yes! because when in Israel there is one incident in Jerusalem where people firebomb a house of illegal work seeking aliens it means in Israel they firebomb black people on a regular basis!

Just one?

Oh also, are you ok with assaulting people looking for work? Is that like civic duty over there?

"Most of those people arriving here are Muslims who think the country doesn't belong to us, the white man." - Israeli Interior Minister Eli Yishai

As we can see, this is clearly just an immigration issue. Black people should be just fine over there. Just don't walk in to any shops with a "help wanted" sign.

TappingTheVein: HotWingConspiracy: See?

Not valid when Muslim. Little known clause to democracy.

See ? this is how an ignorant person refuses to comprehend reality even when it is literally spelled out for him by none other that the actual presidential candidate.

I don't mind repeating, maybe you missed it:
Because if there's anything that spells 'democracy' it's fundamentalist islamic nutjobs like the Muslim Brotherhood.
Here, let their presidential candidate spell it out for you.

What exactly is undemocratic about what he said?

Magorn: Despite having the name "Muslim" in their name, there is nothing about the Muslim Bortherhood that should be scary to the west. They are far more moderate than the Salafist parties that have been springing up lately, they are committed to electoral democracy, and are pretty decent practical polticians.

Don't throw such a wide net there, sane adult don't thinks having muslim in a name somehow makes it dangerous. Not everyone in the west is a christian conservative nut-bag.

spentmiles: JackieRabbit: Isn't Arab Spring air so fresh and calming?

spentmiles: Better than having a bunch of militant Islamic whack balls in charge.

Yes, militant Ismamic whack glands will do just fine for now, don't you thing, spentmiles?

Masturbate much?

Is using two hands considered much?

TappingTheVein: HotWingConspiracy: I thank you for proving my point. I even teed it up with you in mind. You're nothing if not predictable.

How stupid can you be if you can't understand that what will happen in a muslim brotherhood ruled Egypt will be the polar opposite of democracy even when the muslim brotherhood's candidate spells it out for you ?

I get it bro.

TappingTheVein: HotWingConspiracy: I'm sure Israeli mobs that tend to get firebomby will wait to see her ID

Yes! because when in Israel there is one incident in Jerusalem where people firebomb a house of illegal work seeking aliens it means in Israel they firebomb black people on a regular basis!

That is standard HotWing logic.

In a muslim country a party leader and presidential candidiate calls for theocracy, and says the following, "The Koran is our constitution, the Prophet is our leader, jihad is our path and death in the name of Allah is our goal. Today we can establish Sharia law because our nation will acquire well-being only with Islam and Sharia. The Muslim Brothers and the Freedom and Justice Party will be the conductors of these goals." And he interprets that as democracy.

In Israel we get one group of nutballs firebombing a house and that means they will do it to every person.

Call me when they have their second democratic election.
Same goes for Gaza.

HotWingConspiracy: Just one?

Yes, just one. Of known illegal African immigrants.

HotWingConspiracy: Oh also, are you ok with assaulting people looking for work? Is that like civic duty over there?

No, I'm not OK about breaking the law in any case.

HotWingConspiracy: As we can see, this is clearly just an immigration issue. Black people should be just fine over there. Just don't walk in to any shops with a "help wanted" sign.

Thank you for proving your ignorance once again because: 1. Eli Yishai never said Most of those "people arriving here are Muslims who think the country doesn't belong to us, the white man", it was a very colorful interpetation of Human Rights Watch and 2. Eli Yishai is a mizrahi jew, himself not exactly "the white man".

Ned Stark: What exactly is undemocratic about what he said?

If you vote in a theocracy (which the MB wasnts) the country is no longer democratic.