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   Donate a kidney to someone in need? Well that makes you a fine human being, a great humanitarian and forever after ineligible to get a health insurance policy on the grounds you have "chronic kidney disease"

15 Jun 2012 02:57 PM   |   9493 clicks   |   The New York Times
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adiabat    [TotalFark]  
Life lesson: Don't let your insurance lapse.
Buy a cheap major-med policy if you're ever between jorbs, and you won't have this problem.
(HIPAA 1996)

15 Jun 2012 11:46 AM
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Magorn     
adiabat: Life lesson: Don't let your insurance lapse.
Buy a cheap major-med policy if you're ever between jorbs, and you won't have this problem.
(HIPAA 1996)


Thank you Mitt, now back here in the real world, when Jobs end, and unemployment is paying about 25% of what you used to make, dropping 3-400/mo on a "cheap maj med policy" isn;t much of an option for most people

15 Jun 2012 11:52 AM
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cameroncrazy1984     
adiabat: Buy a cheap major-med policy if you're ever between jorbs, and you won't have this problem.

Thanks to Obamacare, you can now get these even when you have a "pre-existing condition"

15 Jun 2012 11:55 AM
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flaEsq    [TotalFark]  
As a bright person already pointed out, ACA does away with this abusive practice. Thank you, Obamacare

15 Jun 2012 11:57 AM
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FlashHarry    [TotalFark]  
so vote republican?

15 Jun 2012 12:05 PM
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Tigger    [TotalFark]  
But god forbid someone come between a patient and what a doctor says they need.

15 Jun 2012 12:08 PM
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sweetmelissa31    [TotalFark]  
Life lesson: I got mine

15 Jun 2012 12:09 PM
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MaudlinMutantMollusk    [TotalFark]  
Romneyed in the boobies

/what utter detached, unrealistic bullsjiat

15 Jun 2012 12:10 PM
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Abzzstain    [TotalFark]  
cameroncrazy1984: adiabat: Buy a cheap major-med policy if you're ever between jorbs, and you won't have this problem.

Thanks to Obamacare, you can now get these even when you have a "pre-existing condition"


But only if you've been without coverage for at least six months. And they are still very expensive, but better than nothing.

15 Jun 2012 12:22 PM
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Abzzstain    [TotalFark]  
adiabat: Life lesson: Don't let your insurance lapse.
Buy a cheap major-med policy if you're ever between jorbs, and you won't have this problem.
(HIPAA 1996)


And what if no one will sell you a policy? There is effectively only one insurer in my state (BCBS) and they won't sell me a policy because I have asthma. They won't sell my wife a policy because she's "child-bearing age." Seriously, that was her pre-existing condition they listed on the rejection letter.

Luckily Obama's health plan provides an opportunity for people with pre-existing conditions, but it's still terribly expensive.

15 Jun 2012 12:28 PM
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vpb    [TotalFark]  
adiabat: Life lesson: Don't let your insurance lapse.
Buy a cheap major-med policy if you're ever between jorbs, and you won't have this problem.
(HIPAA 1996)


Of course, if you get sick, you will be stuck with that "cheap" policy until the law preventing denial of coverage for pre-existing conditions goes into effect, if ever.

15 Jun 2012 12:34 PM
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flaEsq    [TotalFark]  
Abzzstain: But only if you've been without coverage for at least six months. And they are still very expensive, but better than nothing.

?? It was half the price I was paying for a super high deductible MSA with numerous exclusions so it's probably worth checking at pcip.gov . YMMV

15 Jun 2012 12:36 PM
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Marcus Aurelius    [TotalFark]  
Two words: Single Payer.

15 Jun 2012 12:42 PM
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Magorn     
Abzzstain: adiabat: Life lesson: Don't let your insurance lapse.
Buy a cheap major-med policy if you're ever between jorbs, and you won't have this problem.
(HIPAA 1996)

And what if no one will sell you a policy? There is effectively only one insurer in my state (BCBS) and they won't sell me a policy because I have asthma. They won't sell my wife a policy because she's "child-bearing age." Seriously, that was her pre-existing condition they listed on the rejection letter.

Luckily Obama's health plan provides an opportunity for people with pre-existing conditions, but it's still terribly expensive.


Go see a good lawyer about that one, that sounds RIPE to become a sexual discrimination class action lawsuit

15 Jun 2012 12:47 PM
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vpb    [TotalFark]  
Magorn: Abzzstain: adiabat: Life lesson: Don't let your insurance lapse.
Buy a cheap major-med policy if you're ever between jorbs, and you won't have this problem.
(HIPAA 1996)

And what if no one will sell you a policy? There is effectively only one insurer in my state (BCBS) and they won't sell me a policy because I have asthma. They won't sell my wife a policy because she's "child-bearing age." Seriously, that was her pre-existing condition they listed on the rejection letter.

Luckily Obama's health plan provides an opportunity for people with pre-existing conditions, but it's still terribly expensive.

Go see a good lawyer about that one, that sounds RIPE to become a sexual discrimination class action lawsuit


Yeah, good luck with that.

15 Jun 2012 01:08 PM
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BunkyBrewman    [TotalFark]  
Abzzstain: adiabat: Life lesson: Don't let your insurance lapse.
Buy a cheap major-med policy if you're ever between jorbs, and you won't have this problem.
(HIPAA 1996)

And what if no one will sell you a policy? There is effectively only one insurer in my state (BCBS) and they won't sell me a policy because I have asthma. They won't sell my wife a policy because she's "child-bearing age." Seriously, that was her pre-existing condition they listed on the rejection letter.

Luckily Obama's health plan provides an opportunity for people with pre-existing conditions, but it's still terribly expensive.


Just like any other high risk insurance policy.

15 Jun 2012 01:36 PM
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hitlersbrain     
America is all about no second chances.

15 Jun 2012 02:59 PM
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FarkinHostile     
So insurance companies are supposed to lose money as long as the person is really, really nice?

Look, if you donate an organ you are going to have major health issues later. It's amazingly cool to do, but business is business. He can certainly get insurance, but it ain't gonna be the same price as the rest of us selfish MF's pay.

15 Jun 2012 03:01 PM
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King Something     
America has the best health care in the world, but only if you can afford it.

15 Jun 2012 03:01 PM
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Savian     
Health Insurance companies are the One True Cancer.

15 Jun 2012 03:02 PM
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yo-de-yo-yo     
So no kidney punches from now on?

15 Jun 2012 03:02 PM
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Igor Jakovsky     
Magorn: adiabat: Life lesson: Don't let your insurance lapse.
Buy a cheap major-med policy if you're ever between jorbs, and you won't have this problem.
(HIPAA 1996)

Thank you Mitt, now back here in the real world, when Jobs end, and unemployment is paying about 25% of what you used to make, dropping 3-400/mo on a "cheap maj med policy" isn;t much of an option for most people


And what will those folks do when they are forced to buy insurance? How will they afford it then?

15 Jun 2012 03:05 PM
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busy chillin'     
no good deed goes unpunished.

15 Jun 2012 03:06 PM
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hitlersbrain     
FarkinHostile: So insurance companies are supposed to lose money as long as the person is really, really nice?

Look, if you donate an organ you are going to have major health issues later. It's amazingly cool to do, but business is business. He can certainly get insurance, but it ain't gonna be the same price as the rest of us selfish MF's pay.


Insurance companies exist to make a profit, not care for people. Welcome to the land of retards.

15 Jun 2012 03:06 PM
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504_King_streetcar     
Pardon me a moment, I'm just going to go thank my lucky stars that I live in Canada, land of socialized health care, and not some Darwinist madhouse where an act of Christian charity will send you tumbling into penury and ruin while your fellow countrymen cheer your downfall with lusty cries of I GOT MINE.

15 Jun 2012 03:06 PM
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Jixa     
504_King_streetcar: Pardon me a moment, I'm just going to go thank my lucky stars that I live in Canada, land of socialized health care, and not some Darwinist madhouse where an act of Christian charity will send you tumbling into penury and ruin while your fellow countrymen cheer your downfall with lusty cries of I GOT MINE.

Can I apply for political asylum on the grounds that the government is trying to kill me financially because I can't afford health insurance? ;)


/one major health issue away from bankruptcy
//thankfully, at least, the kids have Medicaid

15 Jun 2012 03:12 PM
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madgonad     
The guy is 53 and a retired teacher. Fark him. Tell him to go back to work until he hits the normal retirement age and is covered by Medicare.

15 Jun 2012 03:13 PM
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BMFPitt     
Sounds logical. Don't know if it's medically accurate, but it makes sense.

15 Jun 2012 03:13 PM
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Dog Welder     
This is what happens in Romney's America!

Way to go, FartMoney!

15 Jun 2012 03:14 PM
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geoduck42     
504_King_streetcar: Pardon me a moment, I'm just going to go thank my lucky stars that I live in Canada, land of socialized health care, and not some Darwinist madhouse where an act of Christian charity will send you tumbling into penury and ruin while your fellow countrymen cheer your downfall with lusty cries of I GOT MINE.

You are aware of who you folks allowed to become your Prime Minister, right? You'll be joining us soon enough..

15 Jun 2012 03:16 PM
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swingbozo     
Thanks Republicans!

15 Jun 2012 03:16 PM
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Dread Patch Slappy     
yo-de-yo-yo: So no kidney punches from now on?

Only on one side.

15 Jun 2012 03:16 PM
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BMFPitt     
hitlersbrain: FarkinHostile: So insurance companies are supposed to lose money as long as the person is really, really nice?

Look, if you donate an organ you are going to have major health issues later. It's amazingly cool to do, but business is business. He can certainly get insurance, but it ain't gonna be the same price as the rest of us selfish MF's pay.

Insurance companies exist to make a profit, not care for people. Welcome to the land of retards.


Ask someone who can read at a 3rd grade level why you're retarded.

15 Jun 2012 03:17 PM
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Serious Black     
BunkyBrewman: Abzzstain: adiabat: Life lesson: Don't let your insurance lapse.
Buy a cheap major-med policy if you're ever between jorbs, and you won't have this problem.
(HIPAA 1996)

And what if no one will sell you a policy? There is effectively only one insurer in my state (BCBS) and they won't sell me a policy because I have asthma. They won't sell my wife a policy because she's "child-bearing age." Seriously, that was her pre-existing condition they listed on the rejection letter.

Luckily Obama's health plan provides an opportunity for people with pre-existing conditions, but it's still terribly expensive.

Just like any other high risk insurance policy.


And it's running over estimated per capita costs by more than double because sick people know better than anyone when health insurance is a good deal.

15 Jun 2012 03:17 PM
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Ant     
Marcus Aurelius: Two words: Single Payer.

That. We're already paying way more than that would cost.

15 Jun 2012 03:18 PM
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Jument     
Insurance company's exist to make a profit. They do that, to be blunt, by denying claims when possible. Socialize your health care or STFU.

15 Jun 2012 03:18 PM
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zetar     
Blue Cross Blue Shield? Oh, they're a bunch of sweeties.

They cancelled my insurance the day after I was diagnosed with Stage 3 kidney disease.

/ This was after I've paid them something like $300k in premiums (best guestimate) over the last 30 years.

15 Jun 2012 03:18 PM
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Ant     
King Something: America has the best health care in the world, but only if you can afford it.

It's a beautiful world...



...for you

15 Jun 2012 03:19 PM
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jack21221     
zetar: Blue Cross Blue Shield? Oh, they're a bunch of sweeties.

They cancelled my insurance the day after I was diagnosed with Stage 3 kidney disease.

/ This was after I've paid them something like $300k in premiums (best guestimate) over the last 30 years.


My sister's insurance tried to cancel her the night she got shot through the neck, because she had a billing dispute (that was resolved) 3 months prior.

15 Jun 2012 03:20 PM
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Felgraf    [TotalFark]  
hitlersbrain: FarkinHostile: So insurance companies are supposed to lose money as long as the person is really, really nice?

Look, if you donate an organ you are going to have major health issues later. It's amazingly cool to do, but business is business. He can certainly get insurance, but it ain't gonna be the same price as the rest of us selfish MF's pay.

Insurance companies exist to make a profit, not care for people. Welcome to the land of retards.


Then perhaps they should not be involved in a good that everyone, at some point, is going to need, since they may very well be forced to resort to borderline fraud to actually make a profit?

15 Jun 2012 03:22 PM
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Felgraf    [TotalFark]  
jack21221: My sister's insurance tried to cancel her the night she got shot through the neck, because she had a billing dispute (that was resolved) 3 months prior.

I still don't understand how crap like that isn't considered fraud.

15 Jun 2012 03:22 PM
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Jument     
Felgraf: hitlersbrain: FarkinHostile: So insurance companies are supposed to lose money as long as the person is really, really nice?

Look, if you donate an organ you are going to have major health issues later. It's amazingly cool to do, but business is business. He can certainly get insurance, but it ain't gonna be the same price as the rest of us selfish MF's pay.

Insurance companies exist to make a profit, not care for people. Welcome to the land of retards.

Then perhaps they should not be involved in a good that everyone, at some point, is going to need, since they may very well be forced to resort to borderline fraud to actually make a profit?


Why do you hate America?

15 Jun 2012 03:22 PM
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LeroyBourne     
zetar: Blue Cross Blue Shield? Oh, they're a bunch of sweeties.

They cancelled my insurance the day after I was diagnosed with Stage 3 kidney disease.

/ This was after I've paid them something like $300k in premiums (best guestimate) over the last 30 years.


Wow, and people wonder why we have stories like that one dude who flew his plane into that IRS building a couple years ago. I'd go batshiat insane if someone burned me that bad.

15 Jun 2012 03:24 PM
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Karac    [TotalFark]  
Ant: Marcus Aurelius: Two words: Single Payer.

That. We're already paying way more than that would cost.


I feel compelled to reply with this, from over in the politics tab:

Gaseous Anomaly: Drugs have a lot of low-hanging cost fruit. The amount the US (public and private) pays for drugs each year is more than twice the pharma industry's R&D budget PLUS the amount countries like Canada and the UK pay for drugs each year. Therefore, if we publicly funded pharma R&D at current levels, and literally gave away the drugs to the world, we'd still come out ahead.

15 Jun 2012 03:24 PM
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foo monkey     
zetar: Blue Cross Blue Shield? Oh, they're a bunch of sweeties.

They cancelled my insurance the day after I was diagnosed with Stage 3 kidney disease.

/ This was after I've paid them something like $300k in premiums (best guestimate) over the last 30 years.


What was their reason?

15 Jun 2012 03:25 PM
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lennavan     
cameroncrazy1984: adiabat: Buy a cheap major-med policy if you're ever between jorbs, and you won't have this problem.

Thanks to Obamacare, you can now get these even when you have a "pre-existing condition"


Not yet.

Reform delayed for 4 years - effective January 1, 2014

Individual and group health insurance plans
Pre-existing condition exclusions prohibited in all health insurance plans

15 Jun 2012 03:25 PM
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dj1s     
So, if you are a rich asshole, you wouldn't donate a kidney to anyone and thus this is not a problem to you.

15 Jun 2012 03:27 PM
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Relatively Obscure    [TotalFark]  
jack21221: zetar: Blue Cross Blue Shield? Oh, they're a bunch of sweeties.

They cancelled my insurance the day after I was diagnosed with Stage 3 kidney disease.

/ This was after I've paid them something like $300k in premiums (best guestimate) over the last 30 years.

My sister's insurance tried to cancel her the night she got shot through the neck, because she had a billing dispute (that was resolved) 3 months prior.


And that's nothing that couldn't be solved by eliminating their taxes and regulating them less. Duh.

15 Jun 2012 03:27 PM
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WinnipegDragon     
Good to see that private health insurance is working out so well for yet another American.

/Canada
//Snicker
///You guys are suckers

15 Jun 2012 03:29 PM
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stonicus     
Felgraf: hitlersbrain: FarkinHostile: So insurance companies are supposed to lose money as long as the person is really, really nice?

Look, if you donate an organ you are going to have major health issues later. It's amazingly cool to do, but business is business. He can certainly get insurance, but it ain't gonna be the same price as the rest of us selfish MF's pay.

Insurance companies exist to make a profit, not care for people. Welcome to the land of retards.

Then perhaps they should not be involved in a good that everyone, at some point, is going to need, since they may very well be forced to resort to borderline fraud to actually make a profit?


How is it fraud? They looked at the numbers and decided "we'll spend more on you than we will make, so no, you can't haz insurance". Nothing is stopping him from paying the doctor himself. Giving the kidney was nice, but did he also give up half of his brain? How could he not have researched this ahead of time? Now, if he did, and they said "cool",. but now they are saying "not cool", then that is different.

15 Jun 2012 03:30 PM
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