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19 Jun 2012 01:28 PM   |   4047 clicks   |   Townhall
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meat0918     
Because People in power are Stupid: Back in the 1920s, however, when fascism was a new political development, it was widely -- and correctly -- regarded as being on the political left.

Revisionism makes the world so pretty.


Seriously, fascism is not on the political left, and authoritarianism is shared by many political philosophies.

God damn, sometimes I feel I'm being pushed to the edge by these morons.

19 Jun 2012 01:58 PM
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Zerochance     
derpdeederp: The Reverend Smith: We get it racistmitter, he's black.

Lol, the author is black too.


I'm starting to think comments like this come from the alt-loving freepers themselves, solely for the purpose of rebuking them.

FARK is a tough crowd if you speak derp, and it's easy to control the narrative if you control both sides.

19 Jun 2012 02:00 PM
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monoski     
The whole article is based on the false assumption that Obama critics care about the real definition of a socialist.

19 Jun 2012 02:00 PM
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PonceAlyosha     
Bhasayate: PonceAlyosha: PonceAlyosha: Bhasayate: Somacandra: Bhasayate: Lost Thought 00: Who are the Jews for Obama's Ovens?

Aborted babies.

No, you're thinking of Christopher Reeve.

Yeah, and he was a commie.

[halsivon.files.wordpress.com image 400x600]

And a Nazi!

No evidence of Muslimity, though.

[images.wikia.com image 384x371]

Obama, too, is a fictional character:
Obama's book is a fraud, it should be in the fiction section.


i.newsarama.com

Obama is also Superman.

19 Jun 2012 02:00 PM
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palelizard     
neversubmit: "When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic." - Donald James

Of course, the ravings of lunatics will also seem utterly preposterous.

19 Jun 2012 02:02 PM
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derpdeederp     
meat0918: Because People in power are Stupid: Back in the 1920s, however, when fascism was a new political development, it was widely -- and correctly -- regarded as being on the political left.

Revisionism makes the world so pretty.

Seriously, fascism is not on the political left, and authoritarianism is shared by many political philosophies.

God damn, sometimes I feel I'm being pushed to the edge by these morons.


From wiki, looks like Facism is in a political spectrum all on its own.

"Fascism opposes multiple ideologies: conservatism, liberalism, and the two major forms of socialism-communism and social democracy."

19 Jun 2012 02:02 PM
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macadamnut     
Even Hitler, who adopted fascist ideas in the 1920s, was seen by some, including W.E.B. Du Bois, as a man of the left.

But I think we're missing the real question here, people, which is could W.E.B. Du Bois eat more than fifteen schnitzengruben?

19 Jun 2012 02:04 PM
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patrick767     
Back in the 1920s, however, when fascism was a new political development, it was widely -- and correctly -- regarded as being on the political left.

Sowell, you stupid fark, step away from the Jonah Goldberg book. Anyone who believes Jonah's idiotic keyboard vomit is even dumber than he is. At least he got paid to write that pure, unadulterated bullshiat.

19 Jun 2012 02:04 PM
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derpdeederp     
Zerochance: derpdeederp: The Reverend Smith: We get it racistmitter, he's black.

Lol, the author is black too.

I'm starting to think comments like this come from the alt-loving freepers themselves, solely for the purpose of rebuking them.

FARK is a tough crowd if you speak derp, and it's easy to control the narrative if you control both sides.


I have no need for an alt, thanks for thinking of me though :)

/and my alter ego.

19 Jun 2012 02:04 PM
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liverleef     
I was a big fan of Sowell at one time. I've read many of his books. They made perfect sense at the time. The more I see world events play out the more I realize what a total dumbass this guy is. He's worse than a dumbass. He's an ideologue that refuses to acknowledge any facts that conflict with his worldview. fark him.

19 Jun 2012 02:04 PM
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Because People in power are Stupid    [TotalFark]  
meat0918: Because People in power are Stupid: Back in the 1920s, however, when fascism was a new political development, it was widely -- and correctly -- regarded as being on the political left.

Revisionism makes the world so pretty.

Seriously, fascism is not on the political left, and authoritarianism is shared by many political philosophies.

God damn, sometimes I feel I'm being pushed to the edge by these morons.


Orly?

19 Jun 2012 02:06 PM
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Bhasayate     
liverleef: He's an ideologue that refuses to acknowledge any facts that conflict with his worldview.

That describes a shiat load of USA people, most of them, really.

19 Jun 2012 02:06 PM
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Chummer45     
I'm glad he cited reliable sources to back his derp. Like the "great book" by that very respected pulitzer prize nominated* author Jonah Goldberg.

*not intended to be a factual statement

19 Jun 2012 02:08 PM
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Zerochance     
meat0918: Because People in power are Stupid: Back in the 1920s, however, when fascism was a new political development, it was widely -- and correctly -- regarded as being on the political left.

Revisionism makes the world so pretty.

Seriously, fascism is not on the political left, and authoritarianism is shared by many political philosophies.

God damn, sometimes I feel I'm being pushed to the edge by these morons.


Calling it now - today, Obama is an "enemy of the Free Market". Tomorrow, he's just another "Wall Street Puppet."

19 Jun 2012 02:09 PM
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Zerochance     
derpdeederp: Zerochance: derpdeederp: The Reverend Smith: We get it racistmitter, he's black.

Lol, the author is black too.

I'm starting to think comments like this come from the alt-loving freepers themselves, solely for the purpose of rebuking them.

FARK is a tough crowd if you speak derp, and it's easy to control the narrative if you control both sides.

I have no need for an alt, thanks for thinking of me though :)

/and my alter ego.


Nah, not you - The Reverend Smith. It's such a trite, meaningless use of the "we get it he's black" response, it is as if it's coming directly from a freeper.

19 Jun 2012 02:10 PM
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malaktaus     
derpdeederp: meat0918: Because People in power are Stupid: Back in the 1920s, however, when fascism was a new political development, it was widely -- and correctly -- regarded as being on the political left.

Revisionism makes the world so pretty.

Seriously, fascism is not on the political left, and authoritarianism is shared by many political philosophies.

God damn, sometimes I feel I'm being pushed to the edge by these morons.

From wiki, looks like Facism is in a political spectrum all on its own.

"Fascism opposes multiple ideologies: conservatism, liberalism, and the two major forms of socialism-communism and social democracy."


Liberalism opposes multiple ideologies: conservatism, fascism and the two major forms of socialism-communism and social democracy.
Conservatism opposes multiple ideologies: fascism, liberalism, and the two major forms of socialism-communism and social democracy.

All three of these statements are equally true and equally meaningless. Fascism is a political philosophy of the extreme right, and that isnt even a criticism of real conservatism, any more than it's a criticism of liberalism to say that Soviet communism was a philosophy of the extreme left. The only reason for you to get defensive and spread misinformation is that on some level you know that modern American conservatism is increasingly indistinguishable from fascism.

19 Jun 2012 02:13 PM
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Mr_Fabulous     
Lionel Mandrake: *YAWN*

How many times are the idiots at Floorhumper.com going to write this same article?



Until EVERY floor is well and truly humped, my friend. And not a single time fewer!

19 Jun 2012 02:14 PM
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Arkanaut     
derpdeederp: "Fascism opposes multiple ideologies: conservatism, liberalism, and the two major forms of socialism-communism and social democracy."

That doesn't sound like much of an ethos.

19 Jun 2012 02:15 PM
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ssa5     
Because People in power are Stupid: Back in the 1920s, however, when fascism was a new political development, it was widely -- and correctly -- regarded as being on the political left.

Revisionism makes the world so pretty.


HOLY S*$#T! Did they really say that? Sorry I can't read that drivel from these sites, so...did they really farking *$&# say that?

O....M...F...G....What color is the sky in their reality? These people are just, I don't even know. They are either the absolute dumbest in our society or completely lacking in any ethics, morality, or shame. Are these morons the ones who did not pass the 7th grade? At least that I could understand their total lack of any knowledge about, well anything in this world.

19 Jun 2012 02:15 PM
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qorkfiend     
ssa5: Because People in power are Stupid: Back in the 1920s, however, when fascism was a new political development, it was widely -- and correctly -- regarded as being on the political left.

Revisionism makes the world so pretty.

HOLY S*$#T! Did they really say that? Sorry I can't read that drivel from these sites, so...did they really farking *$&# say that?

O....M...F...G....What color is the sky in their reality? These people are just, I don't even know. They are either the absolute dumbest in our society or completely lacking in any ethics, morality, or shame. Are these morons the ones who did not pass the 7th grade? At least that I could understand their total lack of any knowledge about, well anything in this world.


I've had people seriously tell me that not just fascism, but all authoritarianism comes from the left.

19 Jun 2012 02:16 PM
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Ned Stark     
Fascism and communism are exactly Communists. That's why the fascists and communists fought the largest war in human history trying to annihilate each other. Haven't you seen the footage of the Soviets howling "COPY CAAATSS!!" just before locking arms and charging the machine guns?

19 Jun 2012 02:19 PM
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ordinarysteve     
There should be a moratorium on -isms until we all learn what they actually mean.

19 Jun 2012 02:20 PM
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cc_rider    [TotalFark]  
It blows my mind that wingnuts think Thomas "Token" Sowell is one of the greatest intellectual thinkers of his generation. His columns are nothing but verbal vomit, the books might be slightly better, but still full of all kinds of wrong.

I'm sorry, but this man is a phony, and a flaming farking idiot.

/Carry on.

19 Jun 2012 02:21 PM
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qorkfiend     
Ned Stark: Fascism and communism are exactly Communists. That's why the fascists and communists fought the largest war in human history trying to annihilate each other. Haven't you seen the footage of the Soviets howling "COPY CAAATSS!!" just before locking arms and charging the machine guns?

That wasn't "COPY CATS". That was "CCCPY CATS". It was a rallying cry.

19 Jun 2012 02:21 PM
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Mr_Fabulous     
Esc7: Anytime this POS is brought up, you need to first read this article:

http://www.salon.com/2012/05/10/jonah _goldbergs_desperation/

and know at least some people know what a hack he is.



Or, you could go to the goddamn Holocaust Museum in Washington and look at all the scary signs the fascist brownshirts put up, warning people about the leftist/commie peril infesting Germany.

The actual goddamn signs. Not replicas.

19 Jun 2012 02:22 PM
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Ned Stark     
Ned Stark: Fascism and communism are exactly Communists. That's why the fascists and communists fought the largest war in human history trying to annihilate each other. Haven't you seen the footage of the Soviets howling "COPY CAAATSS!!" just before locking arms and charging the machine guns?

Exactly the same.*
hurr durr

19 Jun 2012 02:22 PM
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Jackson Herring    [TotalFark]  
ordinarysteve: There should be a moratorium on -isms until we all learn what they actually mean.

fartism :(

19 Jun 2012 02:23 PM
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derpdeederp     
malaktaus: All three of these statements are equally true and equally meaningless. Fascism is a political philosophy of the extreme right, and that isnt even a criticism of real conservatism, any more than it's a criticism of liberalism to say that Soviet communism was a philosophy of the extreme left. The only reason for you to get defensive and spread misinformation is that on some level you know that modern American conservatism is increasingly indistinguishable from fascism.

Wow, project there much buddy. Take a chill pill and get back to us when you learn how to play with others.

The whole "the left are Fascists, the right are Fascists" is the buzz kill you bring to the party.

19 Jun 2012 02:28 PM
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Blathering Idjut     
ordinarysteve: There should be a moratorium on -isms until we all learn what they actually mean.

No, what we need is for folks on the right to stop trying to retcon reality.

19 Jun 2012 02:29 PM
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jso2897     
Third KKKlownhall link today. Hmmmmm.

19 Jun 2012 02:29 PM
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derpdeederp     
Blathering Idjut: ordinarysteve: There should be a moratorium on -isms until we all learn what they actually mean.

No, what we need is for folks on the right to stop trying to retcon reality.


Reality is a social construct.

19 Jun 2012 02:30 PM
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The Reverend Smith     
derpdeederp: The Reverend Smith: We get it racistmitter, he's black.

Lol, the author is black too.


img594.imageshack.us

19 Jun 2012 02:32 PM
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Ned Stark     
qorkfiend: Ned Stark: Fascism and communism are exactly Communists. That's why the fascists and communists fought the largest war in human history trying to annihilate each other. Haven't you seen the footage of the Soviets howling "COPY CAAATSS!!" just before locking arms and charging the machine guns?

That wasn't "COPY CATS". That was "CCCPY CATS". It was a rallying cry.


So you're saying the root of the struggle was that hitler was a dog person and stalin was a cat person?

19 Jun 2012 02:33 PM
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malaktaus     
derpdeederp: malaktaus: All three of these statements are equally true and equally meaningless. Fascism is a political philosophy of the extreme right, and that isnt even a criticism of real conservatism, any more than it's a criticism of liberalism to say that Soviet communism was a philosophy of the extreme left. The only reason for you to get defensive and spread misinformation is that on some level you know that modern American conservatism is increasingly indistinguishable from fascism.

Wow, project there much buddy. Take a chill pill and get back to us when you learn how to play with others.

The whole "the left are Fascists, the right are Fascists" is the buzz kill you bring to the party.


In other words, you got nothin'. But I already knew that.

19 Jun 2012 02:35 PM
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monoski     
monoski: The whole article is based on the false assumption that Obama critics care about the real definition of a socialist.

//Forgot to add they have to call him something bad since the first word that came to mind does not work well in public, socialist will do.

19 Jun 2012 02:38 PM
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Jackson Herring    [TotalFark]  
jso2897: Third KKKlownhall link today. Hmmmmm.

It is a farklib mod conspiracy. A fartspiracy if you will

19 Jun 2012 02:38 PM
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derpdeederp     
malaktaus: derpdeederp: malaktaus: All three of these statements are equally true and equally meaningless. Fascism is a political philosophy of the extreme right, and that isnt even a criticism of real conservatism, any more than it's a criticism of liberalism to say that Soviet communism was a philosophy of the extreme left. The only reason for you to get defensive and spread misinformation is that on some level you know that modern American conservatism is increasingly indistinguishable from fascism.

Wow, project there much buddy. Take a chill pill and get back to us when you learn how to play with others.

The whole "the left are Fascists, the right are Fascists" is the buzz kill you bring to the party.

In other words, you got nothin'. But I already knew that.


I think its funny that you think Im trying to defend the right.

19 Jun 2012 02:42 PM
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Ant     
CPennypacker: If Obama was a Fascist conservatives would LOVE him

Except that he'd still be black.

19 Jun 2012 02:44 PM
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derpdeederp     
malaktaus: In other words, you got nothin'. But I already knew that.

Or how about this, because appearantly you are looking for an internet argument:

Republitards are for a decentralized economy, Fascism is for a centralized economy.

Republitards are for private property rights (Capitalism), Fascism is for state property and private property based on national service.

Republitards are for democracy, Fascism is for a state leader.

Better, now you have something you can try to beat up on. Best of luck there.

19 Jun 2012 02:48 PM
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Shvetz     
Lionel Mandrake: *YAWN*

How many times are the idiots at Floorhumper.com going to write this same article?


As many times as Drew greenlights it.

19 Jun 2012 02:49 PM
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WizardofToast     
Oh! So they actually figured out that they're using the word 'socialist' for "things I don't like" instead of an actual definition?

*click*

Wow....that was stupid.

19 Jun 2012 02:54 PM
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Holfax    [TotalFark]  
There is no conceivable universe where TownHall deserves an "interesting" tag.

19 Jun 2012 03:00 PM
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dahmers love zombie    [TotalFark]  
Bhasayate: PonceAlyosha: PonceAlyosha: Bhasayate: Somacandra: Bhasayate: Lost Thought 00: Who are the Jews for Obama's Ovens?

Aborted babies.

No, you're thinking of Christopher Reeve.

Yeah, and he was a commie.

[halsivon.files.wordpress.com image 400x600]

And a Nazi!

No evidence of Muslimity, though.

[images.wikia.com image 384x371]

Obama, too, is a fictional character:
Obama's book is a fraud, it should be in the fiction section.


Wow. You could actually visualize the spittle at the corners of that guy's mouth as he typed that pile of scat.

19 Jun 2012 03:07 PM
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patrick767     
ssa5
HOLY S*$#T! Did they really say that? Sorry I can't read that drivel from these sites, so...did they really farking *$&# say that?

O....M...F...G....What color is the sky in their reality? These people are just, I don't even know.


Jonah Goldberg's phenomenally idiotic Liberal Fascism was a #1 NY Times bestseller. It's inspired numerous shiat for brains right wingers to take up his moronic, absurdly false claim that liberals are the real fascists.

19 Jun 2012 03:08 PM
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jso2897     
Jackson Herring: jso2897: Third KKKlownhall link today. Hmmmmm.

It is a farklib mod conspiracy. A fartspiracy if you will


I prefer "derpicane", or "moronsoon".

19 Jun 2012 03:09 PM
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Mikey1969     
Even Hitler, who...

And we're done with Townhall for the month....

Quit Greening this bullshiat for a few days guys,. OK?

19 Jun 2012 03:12 PM
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justafarkingchef     
Bill Sammon (FOX News D.C. Chief) in 2008 engaged in what he calls "mischievous speculation" and called Obama a socialist.

2012: Fox Sheeple still bleat "socialist" Believing it's their own opinion.

19 Jun 2012 03:16 PM
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Endrick    [TotalFark]  
Fascism is when the government works with business to run everything.
What is it called when businesses own the government?

19 Jun 2012 03:18 PM
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SacriliciousBeerSwiller     
CPennypacker: If Obama was a Fascist conservatives would LOVE him

This.

Fascism is just a half-step to the right of neoconservativism.

19 Jun 2012 03:18 PM
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propasaurus    [TotalFark]  
Townhall Tuesday, WorldNut Wednesday, American Thinker Thursday, Freeper Friday.

/meatless Monday

19 Jun 2012 03:23 PM
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