Corvus: Weird when your doctor gives you a prostate check it's "For your health" but when you give him one it's rape UFIA.

FTFY

I can't believe I'm going to say this, but this attention whore should be prosecuted. Sure, it sucks to be treated like cattle in an airport, but that's the way it is. If I was the TSA supervisor that got groped, I'd sue the biatch.

I tried having a conversation last week with someone about the futility and waste of the TSA, and how terrorists could simply go for a softer target. Her response was that "terrorists here go after planes, they just don't go after other things here".

A shame, she was young and rather cute. Hopeless, I suppose.

destrip: If a cop kills you with a service weapon, it's "justified use of force," or "suicide by cop," depending on the circumstances. If you kill him, it's "murder."

/this slope is getting kind of slippery, don'tcha think?

You kill another person it's 3 degrees of homocide- accidental, unintentional, or planned. I'm not following your logic. Slippery slopes are when you intentionally fark around with terminology to create a false analogy.

So what if I don't touch the TSA agent, but as they grope my private areas I slowly grind into their hand. Is THAT acceptable?

fluffy2097 : It's not sexual assault. It's freedom.
Aye. The plutocrat scum who run the nation are more threatened by her than any terrorist.

9beers: Charge the biatch with sexual assault and ban her from flying.
You can get on up off of your knees any time, bootlicker. You ain't impressing anyone.

Maechyll: Problem is that having implemented Security Theatre, if we get rid of it now some knucklehead WILL get on a plane with a bomb. Or two.

As far as the TSA goes--now we're permafarked.

But if you only got rid of the Security Theater elements then how would a bombing be more likely?

rebelyell2006: clowncar on fire: rebelyell2006: clowncar on fire: willyshorts: They say America represents freedom, but American leaders nowadays don't practice what they preach.

Its been like 5+ years since "the Man" has infringed upon my freedoms by stopping me for going 54 in a 35 zone.. what the heck is you people's problem with authority?!

Because the TSA agents at Atlanta rub my inside thigh on my right leg every time I go through security, stopping millimeters before their hands would brush up into my my genitals? Getting a ticket is one thing, standing there while a complete stranger touches in inappropriate ways is something completely different altogether.

RU a hottie or a nottie? Seems thay have more restraint of their sexual urges than you do as they were able to stop within millimeters (1000 millimeters to a meter) and not give it a second thought.

Why not direct your anger toward the idiots that make these searches a necessity. You could always stay home and let these people focus their energies toward the real culprits.

Nevr have been lucky enough to get felt up enough to become indignant about the pat-downs- starting to feel ugly.

I have a mustache and a beer gut. You tell me if I am a "hottie". And I should be able to travel without some TSA creeps touching my leg.

Sportin' my own beer gut- travel to various schools nationally- have yet to get felt up. Give 'em a grin and move on.

I was all for someone starting a collection for her legal defense, then I learned she was a TSA agent. Fark the biatch. FARK THEM ALL!!!

Corvus: Nem Wan: clowncar on fire: what the heck is you people's problem with authority?!

Sometimes authority is used in ways I disagree with and I think my ideas are better.

Sure. That happens to everyone and if we got rid of rules because some people didn't like them it would be anarchy because there are no laws or rules that everyone likes. You can not like a rule and still be respectful or not jump to hyperbole that you are "being raped" etc. You can calmly voice your disagreement to the rule and be open to debate about it.

We all like the application of law... as long as it is applied to others.

clowncar on fire: JohnBigBootay: Did not read and do not care about the article. But I will take this opportunity to say that the tsa is an ineffectual, leviathan waste of time and money. You all owe it to yourselves to read what the former head of that organization says about it. In short, he agrees with me.

Oh, and I have left my cell phone AND iPod on for the entire duration of at least 100 commercial flights over the last decade. Just close your eyes and don't look at the waiters on the flight - the vast majority of them don't give two shiates as long a you are discrete.

What about the "present" head of the TSA? What does he have to say? "Previous" employees, especially the "released" ones, never have anything nice to say about their previous employer.

http://travel.usatoday.com/flights/st ory/2012-04-26/Former-TSA-chief-s ays-airport-security-is-broken/5456274 0/1

read about it yourself. Oh, and he wasn't fired. He quit. And surely you don't expect the current head of the organization -who was appointed to the position - to say 'we suck' while he has the job, do you?

Corvus: Nem Wan: clowncar on fire: what the heck is you people's problem with authority?!

Sometimes authority is used in ways I disagree with and I think my ideas are better.

Sure. That happens to everyone and if we got rid of rules because some people didn't like them it would be anarchy because there are no laws or rules that everyone likes. You can not like a rule and still be respectful or not jump to hyperbole that you are "being raped" etc. You can calmly voice your disagreement to the rule and be open to debate about it.

When the rule is UFIA, it is rape honey buns. Now soread dem lovely buttcheecks and let Uncle Sam put his Liberty Digit in your Freedom Hole.

9beers: Charge the biatch with sexual assault and ban her from flying.

This! And fire her from her comfy TSA post while you're at it!

Too Pretty For Prison: I can't believe I'm going to say this, but this attention whore should be prosecuted. Sure, it sucks to be treated like cattle in an airport, but that's the way it is. If I was the TSA supervisor that got groped, I'd sue the biatch.

This. I wouldn't defend the TSA either, but they're doing what they do in the place that they're allowed to do it. You can't just start groping someone in any part of the airport, even the TSA can't stray from the checkpoint.

I flew this morning, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies. I remain baffled at how indignant people get at TSA. This is not hard.

Is the 100 mL or less rule stupid? Yes.
Are there softer targets for terrorists? Yes.
Are the body scanners a scam? Yes.
Is it difficult to get through security if you follow the simple, well defined rules? No.

/boy are my arms tired
//that's what she said

Too Pretty For Prison: I can't believe I'm going to say this, but this attention whore should be prosecuted. Sure, it sucks to be treated like cattle in an airport, but that's the way it is. If I was the TSA supervisor that got groped, I'd sue the biatch.

Why can't you believe it? They obviously have you trained like a good little monkey to not only accept whatever horse manure they decide to push your face in, but also to call a real live American heroine a "b*tch".

doglover: Corvus: Nem Wan: clowncar on fire: what the heck is you people's problem with authority?!

Sometimes authority is used in ways I disagree with and I think my ideas are better.

Sure. That happens to everyone and if we got rid of rules because some people didn't like them it would be anarchy because there are no laws or rules that everyone likes. You can not like a rule and still be respectful or not jump to hyperbole that you are "being raped" etc. You can calmly voice your disagreement to the rule and be open to debate about it.

When the rule is UFIA, it is rape honey buns. Now soread dem lovely buttcheecks and let Uncle Sam put his Liberty Digit in your Freedom Hole.

UFIA- unintentionally farked in the azz? Being insecure about being touched in a professional manner does not make it rape. unless she's really hot, gives you a boner, and refuses to give you her cell number. That would be rape i guess.

The TSA fails surprise tests at abysmal rates. Their screens have been completely ineffective in stopping any actual terror attempts. All available data suggests that their methods DO NOT WORK and provide zero additional safety.

The TSA is no more effective than the security we had prior to 9/11. They are much, much more expensive, and they accomplish absolutely nothing.

There is no data that anyone here can provide that shows that the TSA is a good use of taxpayer money. Nobody, liberal or conservative should support the TSA.

There are better ways to secure airports, and the TSA is a complete boondoggle, period.

doglover: Corvus: Nem Wan: clowncar on fire: what the heck is you people's problem with authority?!

Sometimes authority is used in ways I disagree with and I think my ideas are better.

Sure. That happens to everyone and if we got rid of rules because some people didn't like them it would be anarchy because there are no laws or rules that everyone likes. You can not like a rule and still be respectful or not jump to hyperbole that you are "being raped" etc. You can calmly voice your disagreement to the rule and be open to debate about it.

When the rule is UFIA, it is rape honey buns. Now soread dem lovely buttcheecks and let Uncle Sam put his Liberty Digit in your Freedom Hole.

Wow he is shoving his finger up your ass. Maybe that was a gay bar because I've gone through TSA before a few times and not once did they shove a finger up my ass like you.

The guy wearing leather at the bars you go to is NOT a TSA agent no matter what he tells you.

You really got fingered up the ass? You honestly did? Or is this just bullshiat hyperbole?

iaazathot: Nobody, liberal or conservative should support the TSA.

Eh? Authoritarians and statists love what the TSA represents.

GoldSpider: iaazathot: Nobody, liberal or conservative should support the TSA.

Eh? Authoritarians and statists love what the TSA represents.

That's why the Bush admin created it?

The TSA was created as a response to the September 11, 2001, attacks. Its first administrator, John Magaw, was nominated by President Bush on December 10, 2001, and confirmed by the Senate the following January.

iaazathot: The TSA fails surprise tests at abysmal rates. Their screens have been completely ineffective in stopping any actual terror attempts. All available data suggests that their methods DO NOT WORK and provide zero additional safety.

The TSA is no more effective than the security we had prior to 9/11. They are much, much more expensive, and they accomplish absolutely nothing.

There is no data that anyone here can provide that shows that the TSA is a good use of taxpayer money. Nobody, liberal or conservative should support the TSA.

There are better ways to secure airports, and the TSA is a complete boondoggle, period.

Well said. Thank you. The tsa is to air security as the dea is to the war on drugs. An epic waste of time and money who do almost nothing to accomplish their stated goals. And might I add a really crappy return on investment. Look up the writer who has, on multiple occasions, printed his own fake boarding passes and gotten through security with no problems. Look at the ridiculous number of insurances of people getting through security with fake bombs and guns. Look at the former tsa head who says barring knives is ridiculous. Look at their own studies that show cell phones pose no threat.

I follow the same rule with TSA agents as I do with strippers:

They can touch me, I don't touch them, but I'm free to say awwwww yeaaaaah and give them drunken/creepy looks while licking my lips.

Corvus: doglover: Corvus: Nem Wan: clowncar on fire: what the heck is you people's problem with authority?!

Sometimes authority is used in ways I disagree with and I think my ideas are better.

Sure. That happens to everyone and if we got rid of rules because some people didn't like them it would be anarchy because there are no laws or rules that everyone likes. You can not like a rule and still be respectful or not jump to hyperbole that you are "being raped" etc. You can calmly voice your disagreement to the rule and be open to debate about it.

When the rule is UFIA, it is rape honey buns. Now soread dem lovely buttcheecks and let Uncle Sam put his Liberty Digit in your Freedom Hole.

Wow he is shoving his finger up your ass. Maybe that was a gay bar because I've gone through TSA before a few times and not once did they shove a finger up my ass like you.

The guy wearing leather at the bars you go to is NOT a TSA agent no matter what he tells you.

You really got fingered up the ass? You honestly did? Or is this just bullshiat hyperbole?

*sniff*

Wistful thinking. Oh Sam! Show me the stars and stripes forever!


Seriously though, a large part of a pat down would be sexual assault if you're not a LEO. Just because a LEO can do it doesn't make it not sexual assault, it just makes it legal. And they do strip searches in numerous situations. So it's not like fingers up the butt don't happen. I'd bet money the TSA has done one.

Corvus: That's why the Bush admin created it?

Precisely. And there hasn't been any credible effort to get rid of it since.

iaazathot: The TSA fails surprise tests at abysmal rates. Their screens have been completely ineffective in stopping any actual terror attempts. All available data suggests that their methods DO NOT WORK and provide zero additional safety.

The TSA is no more effective than the security we had prior to 9/11. They are much, much more expensive, and they accomplish absolutely nothing.

There is no data that anyone here can provide that shows that the TSA is a good use of taxpayer money. Nobody, liberal or conservative should support the TSA.

There are better ways to secure airports, and the TSA is a complete boondoggle, period.

But now we have neat cancer causing X-ray Spex machines. So we can finally see through women's clothing.

doglover: Seriously though, a large part of a pat down would be sexual assault if you're not a LEO. Just because a LEO can do it doesn't make it not sexual assault, it just makes it legal. And they do strip searches in numerous situations. So it's not like fingers up the butt don't happen. I'd bet money the TSA has done one.

The finger in the butt thing is not really part of the strip search.

A STRIP search involves getting naked and showing every single inch of your skin to an LEO of some sort.

A CAVITY search is when they put a finger up your ass.

I haven't flown since around 2007 or so. I dread the fact that I might find myself in a situation where I have to.

What do I tell my kids? It's okay that THEY touch you like that because it's all about security and they can be trusted?

Trusted how? Like you might trust perhaps a Catholic priest?

It's all a sham. If you were seriously concerned about security you'd be arming random passengers.

putting down her bags dramatically

iaazathot: The TSA fails surprise tests at abysmal rates. Their screens have been completely ineffective in stopping any actual terror attempts. All available data suggests that their methods DO NOT WORK and provide zero additional safety.

The TSA is no more effective than the security we had prior to 9/11. They are much, much more expensive, and they accomplish absolutely nothing.

There is no data that anyone here can provide that shows that the TSA is a good use of taxpayer money. Nobody, liberal or conservative should support the TSA.

There are better ways to secure airports, and the TSA is a complete boondoggle, period.

Best security would be to go to the airport, strip in a booth and wear paper gear and proceed to the other side. Somewhere along the way you are exposed to a "random'" screening, handed "travel clothing" (t-shirt, pants). Your property is shipped electronically secluded below decks or on another aircraft where you claim it once you clear the passenger area of the airport. Return your travel gear upon reciept of your property.

Probably easier to just follow some basic requirements and move on with a smile.

I think next election time I'm going to run for president. My only platform at all will be the end of the TSA. No foreign policy plan, no stance on Social Security and each debate I'll just sit back and eat a sandwhich, just pledge to end the TSA, maybe extend it to easier to read captchas on website registrations. Not even run as a Democrat or Republican, because they are both, apparently, pro TSA (Yes, the Republicans put them in power, but the Democrats haven't done anything), maybe the Pirate Ninja Party.

And then enjoy my land slide victory.

doglover: Corvus: doglover: Corvus: Nem Wan: clowncar on fire: what the heck is you people's problem with authority?!

Sometimes authority is used in ways I disagree with and I think my ideas are better.

Sure. That happens to everyone and if we got rid of rules because some people didn't like them it would be anarchy because there are no laws or rules that everyone likes. You can not like a rule and still be respectful or not jump to hyperbole that you are "being raped" etc. You can calmly voice your disagreement to the rule and be open to debate about it.

When the rule is UFIA, it is rape honey buns. Now soread dem lovely buttcheecks and let Uncle Sam put his Liberty Digit in your Freedom Hole.

Wow he is shoving his finger up your ass. Maybe that was a gay bar because I've gone through TSA before a few times and not once did they shove a finger up my ass like you.

The guy wearing leather at the bars you go to is NOT a TSA agent no matter what he tells you.

You really got fingered up the ass? You honestly did? Or is this just bullshiat hyperbole?

*sniff*

Wistful thinking. Oh Sam! Show me the stars and stripes forever!


Seriously though, a large part of a pat down would be sexual assault if you're not a LEO. Just because a LEO can do it doesn't make it not sexual assault, it just makes it legal. And they do strip searches in numerous situations. So it's not like fingers up the butt don't happen. I'd bet money the TSA has done one.

So then a doctor who does a prostate exam is raping someone?


You said they stuck a finger up your ass. Did they do that or was that lie?

Ha! She's a former TSA agent herself. Kill yourself, you hypocritical coont.

Skarekrough: I haven't flown since around 2007 or so. I dread the fact that I might find myself in a situation where I have to.

What do I tell my kids? It's okay that THEY touch you like that because it's all about security and they can be trusted?

Trusted how? Like you might trust perhaps a Catholic priest?

It's all a sham. If you were seriously concerned about security you'd be arming random passengers.

Tell them the truth, that it is wrong but there is nothing you can do about it.

GoldSpider: Corvus: That's why the Bush admin created it?

Precisely. And there hasn't been any credible effort to get rid of it since.

What would help is people supporting a different better solution, which do exist. What doesn't help are the nut jobs going "THEY ARE RAPING ME!!" or saying we should do nothing.

But when everyone complains but everyone one is just biatching and doesn't want a new solution nothing is going to change.

Great Janitor: I think next election time I'm going to run for president. My only platform at all will be the end of the TSA. No foreign policy plan, no stance on Social Security and each debate I'll just sit back and eat a sandwhich, just pledge to end the TSA, maybe extend it to easier to read captchas on website registrations. Not even run as a Democrat or Republican, because they are both, apparently, pro TSA (Yes, the Republicans put them in power, but the Democrats haven't done anything), maybe the Pirate Ninja Party.

And then enjoy my land slide victory.

Actually the idea that most people want to get rid of the TSA isn't true.

clowncar on fire: iaazathot: The TSA fails surprise tests at abysmal rates. Their screens have been completely ineffective in stopping any actual terror attempts. All available data suggests that their methods DO NOT WORK and provide zero additional safety.

The TSA is no more effective than the security we had prior to 9/11. They are much, much more expensive, and they accomplish absolutely nothing.

There is no data that anyone here can provide that shows that the TSA is a good use of taxpayer money. Nobody, liberal or conservative should support the TSA.

There are better ways to secure airports, and the TSA is a complete boondoggle, period.

Best security would be to go to the airport, strip in a booth and wear paper gear and proceed to the other side. Somewhere along the way you are exposed to a "random'" screening, handed "travel clothing" (t-shirt, pants). Your property is shipped electronically secluded below decks or on another aircraft where you claim it once you clear the passenger area of the airport. Return your travel gear upon reciept of your property.

Probably easier to just follow some basic requirements and move on with a smile.

Or, we could do what the Israeli's do, you know, the people who actually have a record of dealing with jihadi terrorism for the entire history of their country?
Nope, much smarter to waste a ton of money on half-witted ass-clowns that fail 80% of their surprise inspection tests.

You know what is funny, their rate of failure pretty much guarantees that eventually something bad is going to happen. In fact, it is likely that a group could stage something very similar to the 9/11 hijackings and get away with it. All the TSA does is inconvenience everyone and condition US citizens to invasions of privacy by the government.

Grab your ankles, citizen. I wish it were hyperbole, but the data doesn't really give room for too many other conclusions.

Maechyll: Problem is that having implemented Security Theatre, if we get rid of it now some knucklehead WILL get on a plane with a bomb. Or two.

As far as the TSA goes--now we're permafarked.

having security is fine. but security can be a near-invisible element. there is automation galore to detect whatever one wants to find. the hands-on groping is not necessary or welcomed. it's an over-the-top slap in the face courtesy of a government that does the Third Reich proud.

/Heil Homeland

fluffy2097: doglover: Seriously though, a large part of a pat down would be sexual assault if you're not a LEO. Just because a LEO can do it doesn't make it not sexual assault, it just makes it legal. And they do strip searches in numerous situations. So it's not like fingers up the butt don't happen. I'd bet money the TSA has done one.

The finger in the butt thing is not really part of the strip search.

A STRIP search involves getting naked and showing every single inch of your skin to an LEO of some sort.

A CAVITY search is when they put a finger up your ass.

Either way, the TSA is just a layer of asshattery added to an already stressful experience.

Before 9/11, all the successful screening procedures the TSA uses were already in place. The TSA is just a a formalized process of farking with you on top of those screenings.

And why are they calling people out randomly? Israel doesn't do shiat randomly and their planes have never been as dangerous as ours (which are pretty safe anyway now all the terrorists are dead) Don't pull out old ladies and kids. Pull out guys who look like hijackers. Look for sweaty, nervous people with too tight grips on their bag or that 1000 yard stare people on benzos get.

Better yet, stuff it and encourage EVERYONE to bring a bowie knife.

Skarekrough: I haven't flown since around 2007 or so. I dread the fact that I might find myself in a situation where I have to.

What do I tell my kids? It's okay that THEY touch you like that because it's all about security and they can be trusted?

Trusted how? Like you might trust perhaps a Catholic priest?

It's all a sham. If you were seriously concerned about security you'd be arming random passengers.

Seriously? Sounds like voting for Obama has turned you into a wreck.

I've flown on flights where the flight attendants were reduced to sniveling wrecks (Hydraulic failure), blown tire on take off (military flight), engine fire (another military flight), near miss of the runway due to cross winds on a Pokemon Jet (Kansai Airport, Japan), overnight stay in Denmark due to landing gear issues, a jet that required an external boost to get the engines started, and then after 3 tries getting stuck in holding pattern waiting for Clinton to land. Diverted due to Hurricanes, leaving one flight earlier than the ill fated flight leaving Lexington Ky a few years ago, witnessing the Italian stunt team fail on a arrow through the heart stunt and killing60+ people back in Ramstein AB during flugtag airshow and you're worried that someone might accidently excite you by accidently brushing up against your nipple?

Having expirienced numerous reasons not to fly, being felt up by the TSA was not one of them

Corvus: What would help is people supporting a different better solution, which do exist.

We could start with dissolving the security theater that is the TSA and routing their funding to more worthwhile public projects like infrastructure.

Corvus: Actually the idea that most people want to get rid of the TSA isn't true.

It's no big secret that we don't have the most educated populace on the planet...

doglover: fluffy2097: doglover: Seriously though, a large part of a pat down would be sexual assault if you're not a LEO. Just because a LEO can do it doesn't make it not sexual assault, it just makes it legal. And they do strip searches in numerous situations. So it's not like fingers up the butt don't happen. I'd bet money the TSA has done one.

The finger in the butt thing is not really part of the strip search.

A STRIP search involves getting naked and showing every single inch of your skin to an LEO of some sort.

A CAVITY search is when they put a finger up your ass.

Either way, the TSA is just a layer of asshattery added to an already stressful experience.

Before 9/11, all the successful screening procedures the TSA uses were already in place. The TSA is just a a formalized process of farking with you on top of those screenings.

And why are they calling people out randomly? Israel doesn't do shiat randomly and their planes have never been as dangerous as ours (which are pretty safe anyway now all the terrorists are dead) Don't pull out old ladies and kids. Pull out guys who look like hijackers. Look for sweaty, nervous people with too tight grips on their bag or that 1000 yard stare people on benzos get.

Better yet, stuff it and encourage EVERYONE to bring a bowie knife.

So where you lying about them putting a finger up your ass?

GoldSpider: Corvus: Actually the idea that most people want to get rid of the TSA isn't true.

It's no big secret that we don't have the most educated populace on the planet...

Sure but that doesn't make his false statement true, does it?

Corvus: Sure but that doesn't make his false statement true, does it?

No, arguing against the TSA with hyperbolic fiction doesn't really help.

Corvus : Actually the idea that most people want to get rid of the TSA isn't true

Yep. The military industrial complex think tanks have done their job well. There are the plutocrats, who don't have to go through the same nonsense as us peons, they are all for the TSA. And those who work in some capacity for the MIC are all for it also, they need the "terrorist boogie man" to keep those bogus wars, uh, nation building, uh gravy train going. Then there are those who believe what the corporate owned news tells them, despite the lack of logic or continuity to it. There are a whole lot of people who see nothing wrong with the TSA. Then again there are us Americans, the ancestors of those who fought for the freedom that the plutocrats are so blithely taking away. We are frigging pissed at this bogus BS attempt to frighten us, and disgusted by those who are willingly allowing themselves to be groped in the supposed name of "freedom".

Corvus: GoldSpider: Corvus: That's why the Bush admin created it?

Precisely. And there hasn't been any credible effort to get rid of it since.

What would help is people supporting a different better solution, which do exist. What doesn't help are the nut jobs going "THEY ARE RAPING ME!!" or saying we should do nothing.

But when everyone complains but everyone one is just biatching and doesn't want a new solution nothing is going to change.

They do have antibacterial floor mats in LAX now.

biatching is like tidal forces. It can move the whole ocean, but just a bit.

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Ha! She's a former TSA agent herself. Kill yourself, you hypocritical coont.

Now, let's look at when she started and when she quit. My dad joined the TSA when it was first created. He was unemployed, they were hiring, it was a paycheck. But at that point, they were the retarded entity that they are now. Yes he had to pat down people, no he didn't enjoy it. About the time that they were telling parents that little Jimmy could bring GI Joe with him on the play, but Joe had to leave his guns at home is about the time that my dad got a job in his actual career field.

If this woman was a TSA agent when it first began but left as all the stupid started (limits on how much liquid you could bring onto a flight, cavity searches, x-ray machines...), then she really isn't a hypocritial coont, just someone who didn't want to be a part of this stupidity. If not, then I agree with you.

Honestly, I have to wonder about the TSA applicants who are applying for the job right now, knowing about the nonsense, like strip searching toddlers and have no qualms about doing just that.

When cops put gang bangers in jail cells, it's called law enforcement. When I capture hoodlums from the street and lock them up in my punishment dungeon, it's called "kidnapping".

farking pigs.