Gas prices decrease in the fall every year.

I smell desperation.

MFL: Gas prices decrease in the fall every year.

I smell desperation.

Gas does not usually free fall 50 cents a gallon between Memorial Day and the Fourth of July. This is the time of year when gas prices go up. They usually don't fall until after Labor Day.

Knowledge is power, farknugget.

The Republicans have been saying since day one that gas prices are part of a complex market of speculation where the price of oil rises and falls based on many particular nuances and intricacies, and that the price of gas tends to generally remain constant worldwide, indicating that the president would have little impact on such things. I'm holding this point of view unless the price of gas does not fall, at which point, quite honestly, I hope you guys realize the mistake you made when you voted in this gas-price-raising bum.

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If it is below $3.00/gallon, Obama wins. Period

If labor day falls on monday this year, Romney wins. Period.

I'll believe it when I see it, but I will post videos of me reacting to every possible scenario.

Just in case.

Garet Garrett: Gas was $1.84/gallon when Obama took office. So a 60% net increase is a win, because it had been higher at some earlier point in his Presidency? Ooookaaaay.....

It artificially plunged when he got elected, because gas speculators knew he was serious about alternate energy. Look at what the price was in Oct-Nov 2008.

MFL: Gas prices decrease in the fall every year.

I smell desperation.

*checks calendar*

I smell stupid.

Sarsin: Garet Garrett: Gas was $1.84/gallon when Obama took office. So a 60% net increase is a win, because it had been higher at some earlier point in his Presidency? Ooookaaaay.....

Me, I just don't attach the price of gas to a President because it is farking stupid.

Oh come on. Everybody knows that Obama just opened that little drawer in the desk in the oval office and moved the lever marked "Gas Prices" towards the end marked "Make Gas Cheaper" and away from "Make Gas More Expensive".

MFL: Gas prices decrease in the fall every year.

I smell desperation.

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FishyFred: "Demand just isn't there," says Brian Milne of energy tracker Televent DTN, noting an Energy Department report that demand for fuel over the past four weeks has fallen 5% below year-ago levels. "It's been dreadful."

Now THAT is interesting. Is the suggestion that people just don't drive as much anymore? Or am I missing something? Because that would be great news for urban planning and public transportation.

Remember a few years back when gas prices rose ridiculously in a very shot amount of time? The oil companies overplayed their hand and basically assumed Americans were too addicted to driving to do anything about it. It backfired horrendously, people reduced their driving in DROVES and gas prices fell faster than they have in the last decade. This time they did it much, much slower, but they're still hitting about the same price wall. So maybe there's hope yet.

MFL: I smell desperation.

Maybe you should get a better cologne then...

tenpoundsofcheese: If you don't have a job, it doesn't really how much gas costs.

besides, I thought 0bama could do nothing about gas prices?

If he could, they are still way higher than when he entered office.

He doesn't. Unfortunately you and your fellow shills have spent the last year convincing everyone in America that he DOES. You made your own bed on this one.

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Are you farking kidding me? Christ.

At least nobody watches Fox Biz.

(Personally, I think a sharp, sustained rise in gas prices COULD be good if it spurs investment in wind and solar power. But that's a topic for another time.)

Wind and solar really don't have anything to do with gasoline. People don't refuse to use electric cars because it costs more for the power, but because the cars cost more, the range sucks, and the recharge time is a joke. Bumping up the price of gas isn't going to affect the research into solar and wind... Coal, on the other hand, I would absolutely LOVE to throw that shiat right out the farking window in favor of a balanced plan combining wind, solar, nuclear, coastal wave generators and maybe even geothermal.

Gas was $1.84/gallon when Obama took office.

Oh wow, people are still banging this unbelievably farking idiotic drum?

Mikey1969: Aarontology: keylock71: Saw $2.98 a gallon in Taunton, MA last weekend...

I thought Massachusetts smelled bad... on the outside.


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Holy Christ, I thought it was just sarcasm, I didn't realize that the GOP was peddling that particular brands of goods for reals...

Why are you so surprised? This is the same group of people who think it's bad that Obama sent ninjas to kill an elderly dirt farmer and dump his body in the ocean.

Obama pressed the gas go down button.

FishyFred: Now THAT is interesting. Is the suggestion that people just don't drive as much anymore? Or am I missing something? Because that would be great news for urban planning and public transportation.

People have cut their driving a good bit since the recession, but not nearly enough for those urban planning and public transporters to be rejoicing. I would guess a huge chunk of the savings come from cutting vacations and the unemployed with nowhere to go, with maybe some errand combining and cutting non-necessary shopping trips thrown in there. Not much of a shift in people switching to public transport or moving downtown yet. I think it'll take at least 5 bucks and maybe a bit more for that to happen to the point it transforms society.

physt: keylock71: Saw $2.98 a gallon in Taunton, MA last weekend...

Gabrielle's Exxon?

Maybe... Just down the road from the Stop and Shop heading into town?

Didn't catch the name of the place. Looked like a small independent station.

tenpoundsofcheese: besides, I thought 0bama could do nothing about gas prices?

He can't, but you can't deny that there are voters out there influenced by such things as evidenced by the people suggesting that high gas prices were bad news for Obama. I can't say for sure, but you might have been one of those people. So if higher prices were bad news for him, logic dictates that lower prices are good news.

You ever notice how everything that gives the little guy a break is bad for Republicans?

MFL: globalwarmingpraiser
If it is below $3.00/gallon, Obama wins. Period

If labor day falls on monday this year, Romney wins. Period.

My personal opinion, and this is knowing American Voters, if Gas is above $4.00 a gallon Romney wins.

Garet Garrett: Gas was $1.84/gallon when Obama took office. So a 60% net increase is a win, because it had been higher at some earlier point in his Presidency? Ooookaaaay.....

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A few months ago when the derpers were sure rising gas prices would kill Obama, I tried to tell them that elections are in the fall when gas prices are falling.

But would they listen? No.

skepticultist: A few months ago when the derpers were sure rising gas prices would kill Obama, I tried to tell them that elections are in the fall when gas prices are falling.

But would they listen? No.

It's almost like gasoline follows a somewhat predictable demand curve. But that's just insane.

theknuckler_33: MFL: Gas prices decrease in the fall every year.

I smell desperation.

*checks calendar*

I smell stupid.

This.

tenpoundsofcheese:

0bama

Jackson Herring: Gas was $1.84/gallon when Obama took office.

Oh wow, people are still banging this unbelievably farking idiotic drum?

If gas drops to $2.84/gallon, Fox News will call Obama a failure because gas prices have risen a dollar a gallon during his presidency, and also point out that gas only rose half a buck under Bush - from $1.34 when he came into office to $1.84 when he left.

12349876: FishyFred: Now THAT is interesting. Is the suggestion that people just don't drive as much anymore? Or am I missing something? Because that would be great news for urban planning and public transportation.

People have cut their driving a good bit since the recession, but not nearly enough for those urban planning and public transporters to be rejoicing. I would guess a huge chunk of the savings come from cutting vacations and the unemployed with nowhere to go, with maybe some errand combining and cutting non-necessary shopping trips thrown in there. Not much of a shift in people switching to public transport or moving downtown yet. I think it'll take at least 5 bucks and maybe a bit more for that to happen to the point it transforms society.

Don't forget remote working. I'm doin 3 days a week at home now. I know it is a small anecdote, but I think my whole department averages only about 2.5 person-days in the office anymore. If I only had to drive back and forth to work and around town on weekends, I would probably only fill up twice a month.

Dusk-You-n-Me: Aarontology: Those aren't recent, they're just what I could find with a quick GIS.

Depends on how you define recent. Those clips aired in May.

Fark is calling this link unfetchable, but it loads. http://mediamatters.org/blog/201205090 010

What a bunch of tools... And I don't just mean that in the 'You're a tool.' sense, they are being used and manipulated in order to work fraud on the American people, so they fall under that definition of tool, also.

theknuckler_33: tenpoundsofcheese: besides, I thought 0bama could do nothing about gas prices?

He can't, but you can't deny that there are voters out there influenced by such things as evidenced by the people suggesting that high gas prices were bad news for Obama. I can't say for sure, but you might have been one of those people. So if higher prices were bad news for him, logic dictates that lower prices are good news.

Not once the Fox News spin tells them how to rethink and retain their deeply held derp.

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: skepticultist: A few months ago when the derpers were sure rising gas prices would kill Obama, I tried to tell them that elections are in the fall when gas prices are falling.

But would they listen? No.

It's almost like gasoline follows a somewhat predictable demand curve. But that's just insane.

Except that April - July is the time on that 'somewhat predictable curve' when prices are normally rising and they are falling instead. Making this year different from most.

Garet Garrett: Gas was $1.84/gallon when Obama took office.

Yeah, it stayed at that price for a week or so, and immediately climbed back up where it had been about 2 months before, dipshiat. It was constantly climbing under Bush, had been a steady sub-$1.50 almost through the entire 90's, every once in awhile making it to $1.60 or so. As soon as he started two major wars in Oil Country, it skyrocketed, and only dropped when it did because the economy was collapsing.

So the TEA party not allowing the President to piss away a ton of money is lowering the price of gas?

Nice!

Mike_LowELL: The Republicans have been saying since day one that gas prices are part of a complex market of speculation where the price of oil rises and falls based on many particular nuances and intricacies, and that the price of gas tends to generally remain constant worldwide, indicating that the president would have little impact on such things...

... until Obama got elected, then they changed their tune quite dramatically. Do you really need me to point out any of the hundreds of recent news reports that have both Conservative pundits and talking heads railing the President for high gas prices?

theknuckler_33: Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: skepticultist: A few months ago when the derpers were sure rising gas prices would kill Obama, I tried to tell them that elections are in the fall when gas prices are falling.

But would they listen? No.

It's almost like gasoline follows a somewhat predictable demand curve. But that's just insane.

Except that April - July is the time on that 'somewhat predictable curve' when prices are normally rising and they are falling instead. Making this year different from most.

And if you can figure out why and predict it in the future, you'll be a very rich man. Good luck to you, sir.

Mikey1969: Garet Garrett: Gas was $1.84/gallon when Obama took office.

Yeah, it stayed at that price for a week or so, and immediately climbed back up where it had been about 2 months before, dipshiat. It was constantly climbing under Bush, had been a steady sub-$1.50 almost through the entire 90's, every once in awhile making it to $1.60 or so. As soon as he started two major wars in Oil Country, it skyrocketed, and only dropped when it did because the economy was collapsing.

Logic. Sense. Facts.

It's like trying to make a megaphone comprehend when its only job is to loudly spew out what comes from the sole source of input.

On the positive side, I'm hoping actual undecided people see the difference between GOP talking point and actual details.

So subby... we should be thank King Obama for $3 gas right?!

MFL: Gas prices decrease in the fall every year.

I smell desperation.

Republicans post lies so you can understand them better. Who needs facts and graphs. People dont drive over the summer durrrrr.

I expect the GOP to start saying the President has little to no influence over gas prices because of OPEC and speculators (which is true, but fark them for suggesting otherwise earlier)

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Are you farking kidding me? Christ.

At least nobody watches Fox Biz.

(Personally, I think a sharp, sustained rise in gas prices COULD be good if it spurs investment in wind and solar power. But that's a topic for another time.)

The only thing a sharp rise in gas prices will do is renew the cries of "drill baby drill" and whining about refineries and the mean old EPA.

penetrating_virga: So subby... we should be thank King Obama for $3 gas right?!

If you're gonna blame him for $4 gas, sure.

President Rmoney wants a war with Iran, Republicans want to get you to $4 gas prices like the Great George W Bush Administration.

/Vote Republican

I am voting for Obama because the alternative is Mitt. I did not, however, think it was Obama's fault when gas prices were rising, and I do not credit Obama now that gas prices are falling.

Subby, that was a pretty weak attempt.

stoli n coke: Garet Garrett: Gas was $1.84/gallon when Obama took office. So a 60% net increase is a win, because it had been higher at some earlier point in his Presidency? Ooookaaaay.....

Gas was $4 a gallon at this point in 2008, and only dropped because of the near global financial collapse. But you knew that, right?

And gas is dropping now because the global economy is stagnating, which is why some people might say "falling gas prices aren't good". Not because the falling prices themselves cause harm, but rather falling prices are an indicator that the economy is weak.

GOPers act like that momentary drop was indicative of the Bush years...it's a terrible act, because most people remember very well how much gas prices hurt during the majority of his term.

and yes I understand the president doesn't control that, I'm just going after that old talking point about how cheap gas was when bush was on his way out (with the economy crashing all around him)

Aarontology: keylock71: Saw $2.98 a gallon in Taunton, MA last weekend...

I thought Massachusetts smelled bad... on the outside.


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Looks like Christmas is comming early for the writers at Comedy Central. I guess it is Fair and Balanced when they have to balance their rhetoric with their derp because they're so full of falacies and lies that their propaganda backfires on them.

Great_Milenko: The only thing a sharp rise in gas prices will do is renew the cries of "drill baby drill" and whining about refineries and the mean old EPA.

It'll be that way until we can develop a battery that will hold enough of a charge to get a car 300 miles on a throw, that can recharge in less than five minutes, and will be recharged by a single solar array small enough to fit on a portion of the footprint of your average gas station.

We'll get there. The question is, will it all be American tech or will it be Chinese?

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Fuel in Australia is about $5 a gallon, everytime I do the math and hear Americans complain about high prices of petrol I want to smack my head into a wall.
Stop biatching, outside of Oil Producing countries you've got probably the cheapest stuff in the world.