I sincerely hope you work for ESPN, submitter.

Otherwise, your white knighting efforts are too painfully pathetic for me to contemplate on this beautiful Friday morning.

sigdiamond2000: I sincerely hope you work for ESPN, submitter.

Otherwise, your white knighting efforts are too painfully pathetic for me to contemplate on this beautiful Friday morning.

Here's a better attempt.

ESPN is on a 30-year streak of only covering things that don't matter. To break it now would be crazy.

sigdiamond2000: I sincerely hope you work for ESPN, submitter.

Otherwise, your white knighting efforts are too painfully pathetic for me to contemplate on this beautiful Friday morning.

Not Stubby, but ESPN covers sports. Molestation is usually not considered a sport in this country. That he was a coach is arguably incidental.

Sometimes conscience requires you to take an editorial stand, just because it creates a funny headline.

/subby

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Sometimes conscience requires you to take an editorial stand, just because it creates a funny headline.

Understood. I take back my accusation of white knighting.

sigdiamond2000: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Sometimes conscience requires you to take an editorial stand, just because it creates a funny headline.

Understood. I take back my accusation of white knighting.

I gotta admit, this would be the one greenlight I'd not be proud of.

/and it is a beautiful Friday morning

People that really want to hear more about the Sandusky trial are f*cked in the head.

/then again, so are people who watch ESPN all the time

I understand the espn connection, being that this is football related, but I don't really want to hear much more about the subject. I will give a +1 for the dahmer/food network reference.

Somebody call me when a Food Network chef gets coverage for cannibalism and FN picks it up.

GAT_00: ot Stubby, but ESPN covers sports. Molestation is usually not considered a sport in this country. That he was a coach is arguably incidental.

Except part of his actions were done with his involvement in Penn State athletics and involved the knowledge of leaders both in the athletics program and the University as a whole.

oldernell: I understand the espn connection, being that this is football related, but I don't really want to hear much more about the subject. I will give a +1 for the dahmer/food network reference.

I have to confess I stole it. The sports editor at a newspaper I worked for received a letter complaining the he wasn't covering the O.J trial on the sports page. He replied that he'd fix her complaint, and while he was at it, he'd make sure our Food editor gave more column-inches to the Dahmer trial. He got quite a few letters after that.

I had ESPN on in the other room last night and I heard them mention Sandusky and the adopted son news.

But it would distract from their WHHOOOOOOO SPR0TS!!!! narrative.

WhoIsWillo: GAT_00: ot Stubby, but ESPN covers sports. Molestation is usually not considered a sport in this country. That he was a coach is arguably incidental.

Except part of his actions were done with his involvement in Penn State athletics and involved the knowledge of leaders both in the athletics program and the University as a whole.

Eh, but I'm also convinced that this really isn't a trial anyway. Whatever he may or may not have done is irrelevant. He'll be convicted and that's that. A fair trial wasn't the point.

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: But it would distract from their WHHOOOOOOO SPR0TS!!!! narrative.

it's a lot of work to create so much hype and fake controversies. don't have time for news.

Ya, it's not like this guy coached on a football team for over a decade. That comparison is spot on subby!

The BSPN agenda...

Jerry Sandusky: *crickets*
The Syracuse assistant: *crickets*
Shapiro in Miami: *crickets*
North Carolina's agent scandal: *crickets*
Anything in the SEC (their cash cow): *dead crickets*

Free tattoos at Ohio State: 24/7 coverage, including the demand that anybody involved be dropped in boiling oil.

WhoIsWillo: Except part of his actions were done with his involvement in Penn State athletics and involved the knowledge of leaders both in the athletics program and the University as a whole.

I still don't see the outrage in ESPN practically ignoring it. Yes, the story unfortunately does have everything to do with sports, but it has to do with much MORE than sports as well, and I don't trust ESPN to handle all of that with the nuance it requires.

The whole Penn State mess is being covered by a bevy of other outlets. If you watch so much ESPN that you're being in effect under-reported on the Sandusky trial and further cases that will result out of this, that's your own damn fault.

Anybody not paying attention to this simply doesn't want their memory of their favorite pudwack coach tarnished.

This is the single biggest sports scandal in history, outside of the Munich Olympic murders. Not only do you have top University officials coving this up, you also had compus police in on the cover up, not to mention the DA who suddenly went missing.

Of course, whatever comes of this ruling won't change the minds of the die hards at Penn State. They will still think Sandusky is a saint, and Joe Pa really had never heard of rape and a man (and will conviently ignore that he himself said "I wish I would have done more.")

Look submitter if ESPN covers the story like the story deserves to be covered, considering it is the largest publicly funded case of institutional child rape rivaled only by the private cover-up of the Catholic church, well dammit that would admit that BIG TIME COLLEGE FOOTBALL played a role in all of this.

ESPN, to their credit, are serving their own self-interests by not acknowledging the story more.

BIG TIME COLLEGE FOOTBALL does a lot of business for the network, they are not about to draw obvious conclusions about the power BIG TIME COLLEGE FOOTBALL afford and the danger within. No no, these heinous acts were all the work of one lone sicko, Jerry Sandusky,

Of course there's the testimony from Sandusky's trial from other assistant coaches who said it was not unusual for boys to shower in the PSU football showers as far back as 1980. There's also Joe Paterno, that dear sweet old man, who tried to get another college to take Sandusky on as their problem head coach, in a move strikingly similar to that of the Pope shuffling around pedo-priests.

ESPN is simply doing what everyone I've read and heard from that is connected to Penn State is doing: putting everything on the shoulders of one lone crazy.

The problem is that, in doing so, they themselves are presenting a form of crazy that is at least equally insidious.

There is something that's bugged me for some time that really crystalized during McQueary's testimony. He said that he heard skin on skin slapping from a room away. That means that it must have been awfully quiet in that shower during an anal rape. No grunting and certainly no screaming. Now let's talk about penis size for a moment. Are you going to tell me that he is so under endowed that he could rape a ten year old boy and that boy would be quiet enough to hear the skin slapping from a room away? Just look at Sandusky. He's a big guy. He's got big hands. He's got a huge nose. Not only do I think that he's not under endowed (and I'm not trying to be gay about this), but I think he's hung like a frickin' steed. Not only would there be a lot of noise from any ten year old boy, but I'd bet there would be screams of pain. Yet nothing. I would also venture that there would be tissue damage and permanent scarring.

These accuser have made, short of murder, the most serious of accusations and should be held to the highest standard of proof. Any of the accusers who have maintained anal rape should put themselves up for an examination for scar tissue. Not only is a man's life at stake, but these accusations have unjustly tarnished one of the most noble institutions in all of athletics and arguably the legacy of the greatest man in all of athletics. There should be a very high standard of proof.

/what?

GAT_00: sigdiamond2000: I sincerely hope you work for ESPN, submitter.

Otherwise, your white knighting efforts are too painfully pathetic for me to contemplate on this beautiful Friday morning.

Not Stubby, but ESPN covers sports. Molestation is usually not considered a sport in this country. That he was a coach is arguably incidental.

Religion isn't a sport, but somehow Tebow's faith still comes up. His football skill is definitely incidental.

Orange Rhyming Dictionary: Of course, whatever comes of this ruling won't change the minds of the die hards at Penn State. They will still think Sandusky is a saint,

I've been following this really closely and I'm yet to hear anyone from Penn State or elsewhere refer to him in a positive light, much less "saint." He was a very good Defensive Coordinator, but I've seen no love lost since his retirement in '98 (surprise! it was because of a molestation investigation that the victim wouldn't admit enough) and certainly since his indictment.

Then again, I haven't lived in PA around the Pennsyltuckians (huge fans, didn't go to college) in a long time. But every other alumni and student I've talked with is ready for this guy to go through the chipper feet first.

GAT_00: Molestation is usually not considered a sport in this country.

Well in all fairness it seems that it was for Sandusky.

A Fark Handle: There is something that's bugged me for some time that really crystalized during McQueary's testimony. He said that he heard skin on skin slapping from a room away. That means that it must have been awfully quiet in that shower during an anal rape. No grunting and certainly no screaming. Now let's talk about penis size for a moment. Are you going to tell me that he is so under endowed that he could rape a ten year old boy and that boy would be quiet enough to hear the skin slapping from a room away? Just look at Sandusky. He's a big guy. He's got big hands. He's got a huge nose. Not only do I think that he's not under endowed (and I'm not trying to be gay about this), but I think he's hung like a frickin' steed. Not only would there be a lot of noise from any ten year old boy, but I'd bet there would be screams of pain. Yet nothing. I would also venture that there would be tissue damage and permanent scarring.

These accuser have made, short of murder, the most serious of accusations and should be held to the highest standard of proof. Any of the accusers who have maintained anal rape should put themselves up for an examination for scar tissue. Not only is a man's life at stake, but these accusations have unjustly tarnished one of the most noble institutions in all of athletics and arguably the legacy of the greatest man in all of athletics. There should be a very high standard of proof.

/what?

Is this a parody of a particular skinnyhead post? If so, this is brilliant!

GAT_00: ESPN covers sports. Molestation is usually not considered a sport in this country.

ESPN-Thailand is all over it, though.

Orange Rhyming Dictionary:
Of course, whatever comes of this ruling won't change the minds of the die hards at Penn State. They will still think Sandusky is a saint,

That's just flat out wrong. The problem is not that the die hards think Sandusky is a saint, instead they want to put EVERYTHING that happened on his shoulders, solely. That is the mania that reveals Happy Valley, and BIG TIME COLLEGE FOOTBALL, for what they really are; devils ready to sacrifice kids in the name of preserving the university.

I see someone here is once again white knighting his favorite pederast.

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Is this a parody of a particular skinnyhead post? If so, this is brilliant!

nah, it was the text from an apparent screengrab of a post on a penn state fan forum.



/they must be trolling, right?
//or they are so farking delusional...

Doesn't espn have a Big 10 contract? Maybe they don't want to report on too many lurid details related to their product.

buckeyebrain: The BSPN agenda...

Jerry Sandusky: *crickets*
The Syracuse assistant: *crickets*
Shapiro in Miami: *crickets*
North Carolina's agent scandal: *crickets*
Anything in the SEC (their cash cow): *dead crickets*

Free tattoos at Ohio State: 24/7 coverage, including the demand that anybody involved be dropped in boiling oil.

Chris Cicero losing his law license received roughly the same amount of airtime as the Jerry Sandusky trial. ESPN is the biggest troll in entertainment and their favorite mark is the Ohio State fanbase.

ESPN doesn't want to give it any more airtime than the hours upon hours of dedicated coverage it got through the allegations, arrest, and arraignment, and their viewers aren't interested in seeing more about it until it's all done. What's the problem?

IMO, this is the way coverage should be on any news network. The facts are out, and being used in the courtroom. There's nothing else to learn here. Public opinion of Sandusky is unimportant. This is a criminal trial. I don't care what people in Pennsylvania think about it. I don't care what Dan Patrick thinks about it. We're past the point of opinion adding to useful public discourse on the issue. Let the system deal with this as it should.

Allegations threatening a major sports university and its legendary coach = big sports news.

A trial involving a long-time retired assistant coach from a major sports university = minor sports news.

GAT_00: sigdiamond2000: I sincerely hope you work for ESPN, submitter.

Otherwise, your white knighting efforts are too painfully pathetic for me to contemplate on this beautiful Friday morning.

Not Stubby, but ESPN covers sports. Molestation is usually not considered a sport in this country. That he was a coach is arguably incidental.

I would argue that it is anything but incidental. He got away with it for as long as he did specifically because he was an assistant coach at Penn State and football is important, damnit, and now ESPN is ignoring the story because it reflects poorly on sports culture in America in general. It's dishonest and it displays an attitude not so very different from that of the university officials who helped cover these crimes up.

Pontious Pilates: Doesn't espn have a Big 10 contract? Maybe they don't want to report on too many lurid details related to their product.

Right, which is why they harped on discounted tats from Ohio State for months on end.

No, ESPN does not have a B1G contract akin to the one they have with the SEC or the Longhorn Network. The B1G has their own network.

buckeyebrain: The BSPN agenda...

Jerry Sandusky: *crickets*
The Syracuse assistant: *crickets*
Shapiro in Miami: *crickets*
North Carolina's agent scandal: *crickets*
Anything in the SEC (their cash cow): *dead crickets*

Free tattoos at Ohio State: 24/7 coverage, including the demand that anybody involved be dropped in boiling oil.

probably cuz Urban Meyer wanted that job, and wasn't he working for ESPN around that time?

Oh yes, it is time for Delusional Posts From Addled PSU Fans!

This one comes from PennLive.com:

"There's no proof of anything being covered up.

Joe reported what he heard 2nd hand to the people in charge.

Curley, Spanier, and Schultz didn't take the issue seriously enough at the time, but they didn't cover it up. They reported the incident to the Second Mile and barred Sandusky from bringing kids on campus.

McQueary, who turned out to be a liar, is the one who should be held most responsible for not doing anything.

Let's not forget that Jerry's acts are still alleged, nothing more."

THAT'S RIGHT DAMMIT! NITTANY UP!

newsflash: ESPN plays favorites.


Remember how they were ALLLLLLLL over the Texas Tech Mike Leach / Crag whats-his-nuts case? or Jeremiah Masoli (Oregon) got a fair amount of attention for stealing that kid's computer. Hell, ESPN had live updates from Toomer's Corner.

as i've said here before, ESPN used to hide behind the "we dont' report on civil litigation cases" (despite daily updates of Isaiah Thomas's civil sex harassment trial, the NASCAR guys' CIVIL slander trial, Clemens CIVIL defamation of character trial, the Vikings CIVIL appeal of NFL suspension, etc.)

they just don't want to fark with the bluebloods.

malaktaus: He got away with it for as long as he did specifically because he was an assistant coach at Penn State and football is important, damnit, and now ESPN is ignoring the story because it reflects poorly on sports culture in America in general. It's dishonest and it displays an attitude not so very different from that of the university officials who helped cover these crimes up.

Were you alive a few months ago? This was huge all over ESPN when the story broke. There's nothing new to report, especially as far as a sports angle goes.

Owangotang: THAT'S RIGHT DAMMIT! NITTANY UP!

I'm sure every major college "power" has plenty of older, loser alumnus clinging onto their uni blankies and saying stupid sh*t on the internet all day long.

Personally, I'm still more....weirded out (for lack of a better word) that an entire college campus was practically silent for the first few days when the child abuse allegations when thermonuclear, but sure came to life to show their displeasure once the dear old coach got fired.

falcon176: buckeyebrain: The BSPN agenda...

Jerry Sandusky: *crickets*
The Syracuse assistant: *crickets*
Shapiro in Miami: *crickets*
North Carolina's agent scandal: *crickets*
Anything in the SEC (their cash cow): *dead crickets*

Free tattoos at Ohio State: 24/7 coverage, including the demand that anybody involved be dropped in boiling oil.

probably cuz Urban Meyer wanted that job, and wasn't he working for ESPN around that time?

I was only comparing the various scandals of recent times, for relevance. BSPN has been anti-OSU for at least 10 years, going back to before the Fiesta Bowl with Miami, when they proclaimed that OSU shouldn't have even been on the same field as God-Almighty Miami, topped with "10-2 USC should be in ahead of 13-0 OSU, because they're playing better than anybody in the country right now!!!" Not only did OSU get into the game, they won. And you do not make BSPN look bad. They've had it in for Ohio State ever since.

I am fine without reading about child rape on espn. Just sayin'. If I want hard news I'll go to NYT or WSJ, etc. I go to espn to read about sports - check that, actually I mostly go there to check scores. The writing is mostly sparse and horrible. I suppose '121th victim found' is a score of a sort, just not the kind I want to read when I'm looking for sports info.

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: But it would distract from their WHHOOOOOOO SPR0TS!!!! narrative.

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My sarcasm meter is a little off his morning, but shouldn't a network called "Entertainment and Sports Programming Network" have a sports narrative?

MugzyBrown: A trial involving a long-time retired assistant coach from a major sports university = minor sports news.

To be fair, it looks like he made minors into a sport.

Killer Cars: Owangotang: THAT'S RIGHT DAMMIT! NITTANY UP!

I'm sure every major college "power" has plenty of older, loser alumnus clinging onto their uni blankies and saying stupid sh*t on the internet all day long.

Personally, I'm still more....weirded out (for lack of a better word) that an entire college campus was practically silent for the first few days when the child abuse allegations when thermonuclear, but sure came to life to show their displeasure once the dear old coach got fired.

It's weird for sure but there is no mystery to it, these campuses lionize the coaches who win...or just stick around in perpetuity. That is the part that no one wants to get into, the fact that the creepy devotion to the coaches and the football programs in general is what essentially forced Paterno into inaction; it forced Spanier and Schultz to NOT turn Sandusky over to police because it would not be "humane".

This whole story is so infuriating not just for what happened but for what continues to happen, people believing that everything just needs to keep on moving without any consequences for anyone but Jerry Sandusky. They could not even be bothered to cancel a single football game or void a bowl invitation.

MugzyBrown: Were you alive a few months ago? This was huge all over ESPN when the story broke. There's nothing new to report, especially as far as a sports angle goes.

This. Now that its in trial, its barely connected to the world of sports. Good on ESPN for not covering much of it. They'll break in when the jury has a verdict, and probably do a retrospective timeline of events or something. That's all it needs at this point.

Heck, sports-wide... Paterno's connection to the thing, and firing was bigger and more important news. Sports-wise, that is.

ESPN misses a lot of stuff, but this isn't one.

Owangotang: Oh yes, it is time for Delusional Posts From Addled PSU Fans!

This one comes from PennLive.com:

"There's no proof of anything being covered up.

Joe reported what he heard 2nd hand to the people in charge.

Curley, Spanier, and Schultz didn't take the issue seriously enough at the time, but they didn't cover it up. They reported the incident to the Second Mile and barred Sandusky from bringing kids on campus.

McQueary, who turned out to be a liar, is the one who should be held most responsible for not doing anything.

Let's not forget that Jerry's acts are still alleged, nothing more."

THAT'S RIGHT DAMMIT! NITTANY UP!

Someone should soap up and rape that guy in the shower.

buckeyebrain: They've had it in for Ohio State ever since.

know how sometimes people say sports fans are crazy, delusional, and see conspiracies everywhere? yeah, i'm not sure where that stereotype about fans came from...

cherry picking leads to interest narratives. remember when espn was pro-rematch between osu/mich because those two teams were the greatest of all time and big11 was the best conference is the country. and yet just a few years later and the internet is on their jock for being pro-sec. what if they don't have an agenda are instead just stupidly putting out whatever they think will get ratings?

I can't believe these OSU people. You're so delusional. Why would ESPN give a shiat about OSU, because a commentator thought OSU would lose and they won? Seriously?

The only people who give a shiat about OSU live in Ohio and Michigan.