I was hopeful for examples of scantily clad women. I see that I'm early. I'll check back

It's still the perverts fault, but you can try and avoid being their target. I guess then it's a coverup race to burkas, because someone always has to be the most scantily clad.

Yeah, nothing suspicious about the way that second guy is sitting. He's just a sloucher.

Dressing conservatively on the subway has nothing to do with preventing sexual harassment. It's purely an effort to lessen the amount of skin contact with any surface in those germ infested, sardine cans.

/once saw a guy pick his nose, examine the findings and then slowly smear them across the seat in front of him
//shudder

my quesiton is why WOULDNT u want to get molested?
as a guy, the thought of a chick grabbing me on a subway sounds REAL SEXY

No, you're not a whore. But you are wearing a whore's uniform.

EvilEgg: It's still the perverts fault, but you can try and avoid being their target.

Absolutely, 100%. Yet, somehow you'll still get droves of people biatching you out because you're "blaming the victim." Nevermind the fact that there are often steps the victim could have taken to minimize their risk...

If someone engages in risky behavior, does that make it their fault when something bad happens? In my opinion, partially, yes. Does it make it any less the fault of the attacker? No.

Jon iz teh kewl: my quesiton is why WOULDNT u want to get molested?
as a guy, the thought of a chick grabbing me on a subway sounds REAL SEXY

Think about the types of guys that molest women on the subway. Now imagine them in female form. Still sound sexy?

WMATA's spokesperson in DC said, "One person's harassment is another person's flirting."

He must have a long lost relative in Shanghai.

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No, you're not a whore. But you are wearing a whore's uniform.

Came here to post this.

On the weekends late at night coming back from DC its nice to ride the metro and watch drunk chicks popping out of their outfits. I try not to stare but well, hey at least I dont get all gropey on em.

This is SO GOING UP on my office's bulletin board.

Jon iz teh kewl: my quesiton is why WOULDNT u want to get molested?
as a guy, the thought of a chick grabbing me on a subway sounds REAL SEXY

Because chances are she'll look something like this:



and will be trying to grab your crotch in an effort to exorcize the demons found inside.

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This is SO GOING UP on my office's bulletin board.

The best part is you can justify it as both "Diversity" and "Sexual Harassment Awareness Training".

looking at someone (who has dressed for attention) is harassment?

also, please for the love of god tell me that the slut walk stupidness isnt spreading.

its as if personal responsibility is something that gets thrown out the window as soon as women and sexuality is involved.

The Stealth Hippopotamus: I was hopeful for examples of scantily clad women. I see that I'm early. I'll check back

miss diminutive: Dressing conservatively on the subway has nothing to do with preventing sexual harassment. It's purely an effort to lessen the amount of skin contact with any surface in those germ infested, sardine cans.

I sometimes stare at horror at the girls on Shanghai's subway system and Changsha's bus system because I'm thinking "You're actually touching that with your bare skin?". I guess they must all thing I'm the white devil of sexual harassment.

Also if you're going to dress like one of the rural sex workers in the big city, you're going to catch some flack because of it. I carry my wallet in my front pocket because pick pockets are so common in Changsha. The girls just have to stay away from certain clothing choices because of the sex workers.

Yes! We haven't had this argument in like two days

The Stealth Hippopotamus: I was hopeful for examples of scantily clad women. I see that I'm early. I'll check back

Hurrah!

I'll help at least, though






\Biki bless GIS.

Not a Subway, escalator instead. Meh, close enough

Link (PNSFW?)

EvilEgg: It's still the perverts fault, but you can try and avoid being their target.

Women who aren't scantily dressed get groped and harassed, too. It's not about dress. So, dressing so you aren't "a target" won't solve the problem.

ha-ha-guy: I guess they must all thing I'm the white devil of sexual harassment.

besides accidentally the think ;)
are you the white devil?

And here...we...go...

Mega Steve: Jon iz teh kewl: my quesiton is why WOULDNT u want to get molested?
as a guy, the thought of a chick grabbing me on a subway sounds REAL SEXY

Think about the types of guys that molest women on the subway. Now imagine them in female form. Still sound sexy?

A little

Honest Bender: Absolutely, 100%. Yet, somehow you'll still get droves of people biatching you out because you're "blaming the victim." Nevermind the fact that there are often steps the victim could have taken to minimize their risk...

If someone engages in risky behavior, does that make it their fault when something bad happens? In my opinion, partially, yes. Does it make it any less the fault of the attacker? No.

What's "risky behavior"? Wearing a certain type of clothing?

I have no idea if it's true or not, but I've heard that groping got so bad on the subway system in Tokyo that they started putting women's only cars at the ends of the train. From how the story goes, it backfired - guys started assuming that any women not in those cars (which were routinely so full you couldn't get on them) wanted to be groped.

I don't tape money to my clothes, because I don't want to call attention to the money I'm carrying.

ToddMU03: WMATA's spokesperson in DC said, "One person's harassment is another person's flirting."

He must have a long lost relative in Shanghai.


"If they like you, it's called flirting."

ms_lara_croft: EvilEgg: It's still the perverts fault, but you can try and avoid being their target.

Women who aren't scantily dressed get groped and harassed, too. It's not about dress. So, dressing so you aren't "a target" won't solve the problem.

_{won't solve the problem}

won't solve the problem

won't solve the problem

And if we can't solve the whole problem with one piece of advice, there is absolutely no sense in following that piece of advice.

"Just because I'm slutty doesn't mean you can be dirty,"

Lol.

"If you carry a lot of cash, please don't pull it out and start counting it in the middle of a packed train. With all the thieves around, you're just tempting fate."

Sage advice, indeed.

"If you are wearing skimpy clothes, be a little more cautious when riding the train, there are a lot of pervs out there."

WH-WH-WHAAA!?!? You can't say that, you sexist sumbiatch! Women can wear WHATEVER THEY WANT! You're just enabling inappropriate behavior!

miss diminutive: Dressing conservatively on the subway has nothing to do with preventing sexual harassment. It's purely an effort to lessen the amount of skin contact with any surface in those germ infested, sardine cans.

/once saw a guy pick his nose, examine the findings and then slowly smear them across the seat in front of him
//shudder

Also, the temperature on the subway tends to be a tad cooler than up on the street. Many women I see wearing shorts often carry a little shawl or something to cover their legs.

And these scantily clad women can understand math? I'm in:

miss diminutive: Jon iz teh kewl: my quesiton is why WOULDNT u want to get molested?
as a guy, the thought of a chick grabbing me on a subway sounds REAL SEXY

Because chances are she'll look something like this:

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and will be trying to grab your crotch in an effort to exorcize the demons found inside.

meh, less than about half the women that have grabbed me fall into that category.
Really though, it's just one more thing that drinking makes all better.

lazyguineapig33: looking at someone (who has dressed for attention) is harassment?

also, please for the love of god tell me that the slut walk stupidness isnt spreading.

its as if personal responsibility is something that gets thrown out the window as soon as women and sexuality is involved.

No, I don't think looking at someone like that is harrassment. Groping is harrassment, though, unless it's theft.

That's what slut walk is about. Look but don't touch.

ms_lara_croft: Women who aren't scantily dressed get groped and harassed, too. It's not about dress. So, dressing so you aren't "a target" won't solve the problem.

It's about minimizing risk. Just like when they tell you don't wave your iphone around carelessly.

But according to my extensive research, asian woman want to be molested/loved-raped on subways. Thats why they ride them.

According to my research.

Harvey Manfrenjensenjen: "If you are wearing skimpy clothes, be a little more cautious when riding the train, there are a lot of pervs out there."

WH-WH-WHAAA!?!? You can't say that, you sexist sumbiatch! Women can wear WHATEVER THEY WANT! You're just enabling inappropriate behavior!

Let me understand, you're saying it's perfectly alright to molest a woman because of what she's wearing? That's what you're saying?

I've never been sexually harassed and it pisses me off.

Tat'dGreaser: What's "risky behavior"? Wearing a certain type of clothing?

Dressing a certain way might be a type of risky behavior. What do you think might constitute risky behavior?

Jon iz teh kewl: my quesiton is why WOULDNT u want to get molested?
as a guy, the thought of a chick grabbing me on a subway sounds REAL SEXY

Uh, it was a guy fondling you.

Just in case it matters.

Honest Bender: Dressing a certain way might be a type of risky behavior. What do you think might constitute risky behavior?

How exactly is it risky behavior?

Honest Bender: EvilEgg: It's still the perverts fault, but you can try and avoid being their target.

Absolutely, 100%. Yet, somehow you'll still get droves of people biatching you out because you're "blaming the victim." Nevermind the fact that there are often steps the victim could have taken to minimize their risk...

If someone engages in risky behavior, does that make it their fault when something bad happens? In my opinion, partially, yes. Does it make it any less the fault of the attacker? No.

Risky behavior: Jumping off a cliff. Sky diving. Sticking your dick in a plugged in blender. Covering yourself in meat and dancing in front of hungry wildcats who lack the reasoning ability to distinguish your tasty flesh from the tasty meat coating.
Not Risky: Getting dressed in the morning.

Nope, you're still an idiot. There is nothing inherently risky about any of the behavior you're blaming the victim for.

"If the eyes of the 'observer', i.e. the point E, is right on the extension of segment BC, then point B would fall into his eyesight. Then, let's make another line of DE which goes through E and is perpendicular to the extension of AC, then the right triangle of DEC is similar to the right triangle of ABC. So clearly, the length of DC is the horizontal distance between the man's eye and the lady's skirt. Ladies, have you figured that out?"

I was told there would be no geometry involved.

LowbrowDeluxe: Not Risky: Getting dressed in the morning.

Nope, you're still an idiot. There is nothing inherently risky about any of the behavior you're blaming the victim for.

How about walking around N. Philly at 2am?

Tat'dGreaser: Harvey Manfrenjensenjen: "If you are wearing skimpy clothes, be a little more cautious when riding the train, there are a lot of pervs out there."

WH-WH-WHAAA!?!? You can't say that, you sexist sumbiatch! Women can wear WHATEVER THEY WANT! You're just enabling inappropriate behavior!

Let me understand, you're saying it's perfectly alright to molest a woman because of what she's wearing? That's what you're saying?

Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying, just like I'm saying it's perfectly OK to steal from someone who has a huge wad of cash in their hand.

Dumbass.

Honest Bender: Tat'dGreaser: What's "risky behavior"? Wearing a certain type of clothing?

Dressing a certain way might be a type of risky behavior. What do you think might constitute risky behavior?

anything that happens after the use of the phrases "hold my beer" and "watch this"

It's the old "The biatches were asking for it" mentality.