Eagles fans that booed him on draft day seem almost psychic now.

McNabb said he's most interested in teams with a "solid running game, weapons on the outside, a defense that's been playing well and playing well together, and that's ready to win right now."

So he wants to play for a team that doesn't need a quarterback...

Ok, I'll bite on guesing who the three teams are:

St. Louis
Detroit
Atlanta

/In ascending order of ridiculousness

McNabb needs to realize he's a backup. He's a second string veteran there to take over for a short time when the full-timer gets killed on the field, or to run out a 4th quarter. That's it. He's no longer a top-25 QB, and his age leans him toward further deterioration, not advancement. Not worth a starting job investment.

McNabb would be the greatest QB of all time if the league allowed one hop passes.

Ponzholio: McNabb said he's most interested in teams with a "solid running game, weapons on the outside, a defense that's been playing well and playing well together, and that's ready to win right now."

So he wants to play for a team that doesn't need a quarterback...

Lol, is that all Donovan? What about the kicking game? Does the team need to be within a certain distance of an In-and-Out Burger?

Seriously, how many teams in the league meet those requirements? Like 4? You figure you're gonna go in and take Eli Manning's job, Donovan?

That's enough, Donovan McNabb

rudemix: Eagles fans that booed him on draft day seem almost psychic now.

Yeah, I'd be pissed too if the QB our team drafted took us to 4 conference championships.

Our undrafted, practice-squad QB took us to 2 Superbowls and won one, though. I suppose I'd rather have the one Lombardi than have multiple super bowl "visits".

Ken VeryBigLiar: Ok, I'll bite on guesing who the three teams are:

St. Louis
Detroit
Atlanta

/In ascending order of ridiculousness

NO. We're doing fine for once. Don't you DARE.

LarryDan43: McNabb would be the greatest QB of all time if the league allowed one hop passes.

Some team used to run a play that was a just-barely-lateral pass that bounced. The defense freezes for a moment, thinking the play is over, giving the runner time to advance further.

Only could be attempted on artificial turf.

I grew up in the Syracuse area, so during his time with the Eagles he was on the local Sports report every night on Channel 9, regardless of what he did and didn't do. One time he ordered a Slurpee and they pre-empted The View with a Breaking News report.

Needless to say, I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

JohnAnnArbor: NO. We're doing fine for once. Don't you DARE

I wouldn't wish it on the Lions either after all Detroit has gone through but if Stafford goes down is he any worse than Shaun Hill or two rookies?

/Actually he just might be

Ken VeryBigLiar: Ok, I'll bite on guesing who the three teams are:

St. Louis
Detroit
Atlanta

/In ascending order of ridiculousness

Ooo ooo I wanna play too!

Jaguars,
Bills,
and 9ers

Just join the Panthers or Jaguars and enjoy playing backup.

I'm sure he's a nice guy, but why is he getting press right now?

grinding_journalist: rudemix: Eagles fans that booed him on draft day seem almost psychic now.

Yeah, I'd be pissed too if the QB our team drafted took us to 4 conference championships.

Our undrafted, practice-squad QB took us to 2 Superbowls and won one, though. I suppose I'd rather have the one Lombardi than have multiple super bowl "visits".

Remember, Eagles fans wanted Ricky Williams.

/that team doesn't deserve that fanbase

Wadded Beef: I'm sure he's a nice guy, but why is he getting press right now?

We are in the dead time between OTA's and training camps.

/atleast it's a break from 24/7 bountygate coverage.

rudemix: Eagles fans that booed him on draft day seem almost psychic now.

If Tim Tebow got to one NFC Championship he would be lauded as the greatest QB of all time (at least by Skip Bayless), yet McNabb went to 5 and people still think he sucks. Like if they started Ty Detmer then they would have won them all.

EyeballKid: Just join the Panthers or Jaguars and enjoy playing backup.

Actually, as a Panthers fan, I would welcome this. Newton is doing fine, butr having a guy like McNabb to mentor him a bit would be a benefit.

grinding_journalist: rudemix: Eagles fans that booed him on draft day seem almost psychic now.

Yeah, I'd be pissed too if the QB our team drafted took us to 4 conference championships.

Our undrafted, practice-squad QB took us to 2 Superbowls and won one, though. I suppose I'd rather have the one Lombardi than have multiple super bowl "visits".

Eagles fan here.
I don't know if that's a tradeoff I'd make. Two or three great years w/10 horrible years vs. 10 way better than average years with a puncher's chance of winning the SB.

What infuriated me about the Eagles during McNabb's tenure, wasn't they lost in the NFC championship game, but they always lost in the exact same way: Offensive Play Calling & average running game and below average WR's. They settled, they got comfortable with winning a game or two in the playoffs.

It's like this:
I need a team with fast wide receivers who can catch misguided throws.
Every passing play must be designed with at least 8 blockers so I can hold onto the ball a long time before I throw it away
I need a schedule against teams with poor defenses.
I don't want to learn an offense. I barely learned the offense in Philadelphia.
It is my understanding that there will be no math.
Don't make me run.
Make the center wear an air-sickness bag on his belt in case I'm trying to run a hurry-up offense, which I won't learn, and I'm hung over and having dry heaves.

LarryDan43: McNabb would be the greatest QB of all time if the league allowed one hop passes.

This.

Komplex: Eagles fan here.
I don't know if that's a tradeoff I'd make. Two or three great years w/10 horrible years vs. 10 way better than average years with a puncher's chance of winning the SB.

It certainly sucks for us right now; all this "moving" talk has me worried. All that aside, this is, and always will be, a baseball town at its core, which gives me all the more reason to fear departure.

At least I'm not a Browns fan. Or a Bengals fan... Or a Bills fan...Or a Pats fan...

rudemix: Eagles fans that booed him on draft day seem almost psychic now.

Right....like the Eagles would be a playoff without him during his run there.

/Giants fan
//Eagles -- McNabb (in his prime) = Detroit Lions
///Still shake my head at the retarded Eagles fans for booing him on draft day

Rwa2play: rudemix: Eagles fans that booed him on draft day seem almost psychic now.

Right....the Eagles would've been a laughingstock with no McNabb in his prime

FTFM

UNC_Samurai: grinding_journalist: rudemix: Eagles fans that booed him on draft day seem almost psychic now.

Yeah, I'd be pissed too if the QB our team drafted took us to 4 conference championships.

Our undrafted, practice-squad QB took us to 2 Superbowls and won one, though. I suppose I'd rather have the one Lombardi than have multiple super bowl "visits".

Remember, Eagles fans wanted Ricky Williams.

/that team doesn't deserve that fanbase

THIS! THIS! THIS! THIS!

Good God, imagine if they had drafted Eli Manning years ago. Think Eli would've required a professional therapist by now.

Rwa2play: //Eagles -- McNabb (in his prime) = Detroit Lions

Not really true. Mcnabb got seriously injured in 3 seasons with the Eagles. The Eagles were 12-7 in those games.

Rwa2play: UNC_Samurai: grinding_journalist: rudemix: Eagles fans that booed him on draft day seem almost psychic now.

Yeah, I'd be pissed too if the QB our team drafted took us to 4 conference championships.

Our undrafted, practice-squad QB took us to 2 Superbowls and won one, though. I suppose I'd rather have the one Lombardi than have multiple super bowl "visits".

Remember, Eagles fans wanted Ricky Williams.

/that team doesn't deserve that fanbase

THIS! THIS! THIS! THIS!

Good God, imagine if they had drafted Eli Manning years ago. Think Eli would've required a professional therapist by now.

Yep, because the New York fans are the most rational fans on the planet.

MugzyBrown: Rwa2play: //Eagles -- McNabb (in his prime) = Detroit Lions

Not really true. Mcnabb got seriously injured in 3 seasons with the Eagles. The Eagles were 12-7 in those games.

I should add, in two of the seasons, the Eagles went 5-1 and 5-1 without McNabb. In 2005 they went 2-5 w/o McNabb but 4-5 with him.. so their winning percentage with and without McNabb wasn't really very different in the years he got hurt.

Dear Donovan,
I realize this is hard for you to grasp, but you've been steadily in decline for awhile now. While you have grown as a passer during your time in the league, your age has limited your scrambling ability and that's removed a large section of your game. It's sad. Early in your career when you were a great scrambling, your tendency to have 'happy feet' meant your passing game was subpar. About the time your footwork improved, your running aspect went away. You also had limited options at WR. One year of Owens and a bit of Jackson right at the end seem to have been the best. The running game was also off and on, and of course Reid's weird ass clock management didn't help. At the end of the day though you don't have enough skill as a passer to make up for the fact your scrambling threat is gone and even a slow white safety can run your ass down with ease now.

Your career is over. Your shot at a ring is no more. No team has any reason to take you as an actual on the field player. Better to go draft some kid out of a BCS program (or sign one as an undrafted agent) and hope they randomly strike gold with him. If nothing else the team gets a kid they can keep around for a decade as their third string guy who holds a clipboard and is serviceable in emergencies since he knows the system. Even if you came back completely healthy, your age precludes you from having any long value.

Accept that you did mature in the league though. Your passing did get better. Sign as a depth QB whose job is to go mentor the hot young ones or find work as a QB coach somewhere. No one wants you under center anymore.

MugzyBrown: MugzyBrown: Rwa2play: //Eagles -- McNabb (in his prime) = Detroit Lions

Not really true. Mcnabb got seriously injured in 3 seasons with the Eagles. The Eagles were 12-7 in those games.

I should add, in two of the seasons, the Eagles went 5-1 and 5-1 without McNabb. In 2005 they went 2-5 w/o McNabb but 4-5 with him.. so their winning percentage with and without McNabb wasn't really very different in the years he got hurt.

I think the record alone doesn't show how valuable McNabb was to the Eagles early in his career. For a period there he pretty much was their offense. Reid's overly complicated passing game wasn't having that great of results, the running back situation in Philly was very unstable, and it seemed like a large percentage of the Eagle's good plays came from McNabb pulling something out of his ass. You take away McNabb and the Eagles offense just plain stalls.

Later you had "Throw it at Owens" as your offensive game plan and the Eagles had a good run with that passing attack. More recently the Eagles seem to have actually gotten a solid crop of WRs (despite their efforts to piss off DeSean Jackson) and as such it's easier to plug a new QB in.

ha-ha-guy: think the record alone doesn't show how valuable McNabb was to the Eagles early in his career. For a period there he pretty much was their offense. Reid's overly complicated passing game wasn't having that great of results, the running back situation in Philly was very unstable, and it seemed like a large percentage of the Eagle's good plays came from McNabb pulling something out of his ass. You take away McNabb and the Eagles offense just plain stalls.

I was simply pointing out the Eagles team was very good exclusive of McNabb. They had a very good defense which kept an offense that had trouble scoring TDs in games and continually gave them good field position.

Also, the dearth of weapons around McNabb is always over stated. They always had very good RBs who were very good receivers. While they did not run a lot, they ran a ton of screens and dump-offs to very dangerous weapons out of the backfield. He also had a pro-bowl TE in Chad Lewis and a great offensive line with 3 pro-bowlers.

Tom Brady won 3 super bowls with a similar setup around him.

rudemix: Eagles fans that booed him on draft day seem almost psychic now.

I was at that draft and got a good laugh at those fans, not because of the pick but at how they were acting. He turned out to be good too. Look at the rest of that 1st round WB class. Except for 2 amazing years of culpepper the rest was awful.

MugzyBrown: Tom Brady won 3 super bowls with a similar setup around him.

One against the Eagles. The Pats won by 3 points.

This is why people say Philly didn't deserve him. This isn't to say McNabb was the best QB ever; however, he was a league-average-or-better QB for most of his career, all things considered. IF the Eagles won the SB it would be unfair to the rest of the team to say he won it by himself. Swap him for a league-average QB and the Eagles wouldn't have been much worse. But if you're gonna blame McNabb for the Eagles falling short, you might as well blame the towel boy because falling 3 points short means being just a little bit better or even luckier at just about anything and McNabb's story would've been very different.

This is why people say Philly didn't deserve him. This isn't to say McNabb was the best QB ever; however, he was a league-average-or-better QB for most of his career, all things considered. IF the Eagles won the SB it would be unfair to the rest of the team to say he won it by himself. Swap him for a league-average QB and the Eagles wouldn't have been much worse. But if you're gonna blame McNabb for the Eagles falling short, you might as well blame the towel boy because falling 3 points short means being just a little bit better or even luckier at just about anything and McNabb's story would've been very different.

Did I say McNabb was worse than average? I'd even say he was better than average. However, he played awful in the NFC Championship game against Carolina (19.3 Rating - 3 picks) in the NFC Championship game against Tampa (58.5 rating), and in the Super Bowl (75.4 rating - 3 picks).

Especially the Super Bowl where the Eagles had an excelent chance of having a 14+ point lead at the half if not for picks and air-mail passes by Mcnabb.

If it was not for McNabb's poor play they would have won each of those games.

jayhawk88: Ponzholio: McNabb said he's most interested in teams with a "solid running game, weapons on the outside, a defense that's been playing well and playing well together, and that's ready to win right now."

So he wants to play for a team that doesn't need a quarterback...

Lol, is that all Donovan? What about the kicking game? Does the team need to be within a certain distance of an In-and-Out Burger?

Seriously, how many teams in the league meet those requirements? Like 4? You figure you're gonna go in and take Eli Manning's job, Donovan?

Actually, the Giants no longer have a solid running game (32nd in YPG last year I think), so they're out.

MugzyBrown: Rwa2play: //Eagles -- McNabb (in his prime) = Detroit Lions

Not really true. Mcnabb got seriously injured in 3 seasons with the Eagles. The Eagles were 12-7 in those games.

If you're talking about 2005-07, you still didn't make it to the big game.

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Rwa2play: UNC_Samurai: grinding_journalist: rudemix: Eagles fans that booed him on draft day seem almost psychic now.

Yeah, I'd be pissed too if the QB our team drafted took us to 4 conference championships.

Our undrafted, practice-squad QB took us to 2 Superbowls and won one, though. I suppose I'd rather have the one Lombardi than have multiple super bowl "visits".

Remember, Eagles fans wanted Ricky Williams.

/that team doesn't deserve that fanbase

THIS! THIS! THIS! THIS!

Good God, imagine if they had drafted Eli Manning years ago. Think Eli would've required a professional therapist by now.

Yep, because the New York fans are the most rational fans on the planet.

We didn't boo Eli at the draft now did we?

Rwa2play: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Rwa2play: UNC_Samurai: grinding_journalist: rudemix: Eagles fans that booed him on draft day seem almost psychic now.

Yeah, I'd be pissed too if the QB our team drafted took us to 4 conference championships.

Our undrafted, practice-squad QB took us to 2 Superbowls and won one, though. I suppose I'd rather have the one Lombardi than have multiple super bowl "visits".

Remember, Eagles fans wanted Ricky Williams.

/that team doesn't deserve that fanbase

THIS! THIS! THIS! THIS!

Good God, imagine if they had drafted Eli Manning years ago. Think Eli would've required a professional therapist by now.

Yep, because the New York fans are the most rational fans on the planet.

We didn't boo Eli at the draft now did we?

No, because he was drafted by San Diego

dragonchild: MugzyBrown: Tom Brady won 3 super bowls with a similar setup around him.

One against the Eagles. The Pats won by 3 points.

This is why people say Philly didn't deserve him. This isn't to say McNabb was the best QB ever; however, he was a league-average-or-better QB for most of his career, all things considered. IF the Eagles won the SB it would be unfair to the rest of the team to say he won it by himself. Swap him for a league-average QB and the Eagles wouldn't have been much worse. But if you're gonna blame McNabb for the Eagles falling short, you might as well blame the towel boy because falling 3 points short means being just a little bit better or even luckier at just about anything and McNabb's story would've been very different.

This by so damn much it's not even funny.

Rwa2play: MugzyBrown: Rwa2play: //Eagles -- McNabb (in his prime) = Detroit Lions

Not really true. Mcnabb got seriously injured in 3 seasons with the Eagles. The Eagles were 12-7 in those games.

If you're talking about 2005-07, you still didn't make it to the big game.

That doesn't really strengthen your argument unless your argument is McNabb was great because he was marginally better than AJ Feeley and old Jeff Garcia.

Di Atribe: Rwa2play: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Rwa2play: UNC_Samurai: grinding_journalist: rudemix: Eagles fans that booed him on draft day seem almost psychic now.

Yeah, I'd be pissed too if the QB our team drafted took us to 4 conference championships.

Our undrafted, practice-squad QB took us to 2 Superbowls and won one, though. I suppose I'd rather have the one Lombardi than have multiple super bowl "visits".

Remember, Eagles fans wanted Ricky Williams.

/that team doesn't deserve that fanbase

THIS! THIS! THIS! THIS!

Good God, imagine if they had drafted Eli Manning years ago. Think Eli would've required a professional therapist by now.

Yep, because the New York fans are the most rational fans on the planet.

We didn't boo Eli at the draft now did we?

No, because he was drafted by San Diego

Still got him, still didn't boo him.

Oh, and San Diego? LMAO! Congrats on having Turner for another yeat.

MugzyBrown: Rwa2play: MugzyBrown: Rwa2play: //Eagles -- McNabb (in his prime) = Detroit Lions

Not really true. Mcnabb got seriously injured in 3 seasons with the Eagles. The Eagles were 12-7 in those games.

If you're talking about 2005-07, you still didn't make it to the big game.

That doesn't really strengthen your argument unless your argument is McNabb was great because he was marginally better than AJ Feeley and old Jeff Garcia.

McNabb was better because of his arm and his legs. Tell me, you think defenses were thinking about deep safety coverage when Garcia or Feeley were at QB? Don't think those guys would be able to throw it more than 25 yards during that period.

McNabb was better because of his arm and his legs. Tell me, you think defenses were thinking about deep safety coverage when Garcia or Feeley were at QB? Don't think those guys would be able to throw it more than 25 yards during that period.

You're the one who said without McNabb the Eagles would have been the Lions.. which was the worst team in the NFL.

I countered with the stats that show without Mcnabb the Eagles typically won at about the same rate as they did with him.

You countered with gibberish.

Time's yours.

Rwa2play: Still got him, still didn't boo him.

True. To be fair, Philly fans basically hate everything, including life. I mean, they have to live in Philly.

Di Atribe: Rwa2play: Still got him, still didn't boo him.

True. To be fair, Philly fans basically hate everything, including life. I mean, they have to live in Philly.

Yeah, pretty much.

Donovan McNabb is so old that his demand for naked pictures of Bea Arthur is actually wholly of a prurient nature.

MugzyBrown: Did I say McNabb was worse than average?

Do you always assume that when someone quotes you, they're posting a direct retort? This is a public forum; sometimes I use quotes as a segue.

I'd take him as a back-up QB on most of the teams in the league.

Di Atribe: True. To be fair, Philly fans basically hate everything, including life. I mean, they have to live in Philly.

Philly is really terrible if you're the kind of person who is categorically afraid of cities.

Everyone's really mad at something, though. Maybe the way other people park.