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   Dear Prudie: my niece gets more toys than I can afford to buy for my kids. How do I explain to my sister that it's her fault my kids and I feel deprived?

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WhippingBoy    [TotalFark]  
Glockenspiel Hero: assjuice: Glockenspiel Hero:

Your kid bought toys at random? That is one of the strangest things I have ever heard.

You've never been in a store with a 7 year old? He'd ask to stop by the toy aisle in a store and the first thing he saw he'd want to buy. We'd generally try to talk him out of the most absurd things, but we would allow him to use his allowance money if he really wanted. The point of an allowance is to let the kid have some small amount of money that's his- you get to make poor decisions if you want.

After about six months of not managing to save more than a few dollars he decided the DS was more important than the instant gratification of the random toy. I was happy to have him save up for it- it's a tough lesson to learn.


We just started this with our son (who's also 7). We increased his allowance and told him that if he wanted something, he had to pay for it himself. The first week, he bought a box of donuts (we didn't let him eat them all at once). The second week he bought (on impulse) an "Avengers Playset". He's starting to realize the true price of "impulse" purchases, as he's no closer to his goal of a PS Vita as when he started...

03 Jul 2012 06:56 PM
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you_idiot     
When I was young, some idiot stole my bike. Instead of buying me a new one, my Dad made me earn money via chores to buy my own replacement bike. It took me over a year to do it, and even then if my Grandma didn't chip in $30, I wouldn't have had the bike for another half a year or so. It taught me valuable Life lessons.

Last month I killed two hobos just to see what would happen.

03 Jul 2012 06:58 PM
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umad    [TotalFark]  
OscarTamerz: the third one is about fat pig with a 3 year old who thinks it's okay to slap on 30 pounds and is whining because her hubby doesn't like porking the porker any more. Her advice to #3 should have been see #2.

That was my favorite one too, especially the part where she refuses to lose weight solely because he wants her to. That poor guy is going to get raped in court within the next couple of years, I guarantee it.

03 Jul 2012 07:00 PM
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Biv     
babtras: I am going to introduce my kid to real life by requiring that he / she borrow money from me in order to have any toys at all. Then work off the debt with accumulating interest and a 10 year amortization. Then when it's all paid off when they reach 18, they'll know how nice it feels to be debt free and don't fill out every credit card application that shows up in the mail.

I thought you were going a different direction, but then you did a proper swerve at the end.

Half the financial problems in this country is the fault of parents not teaching their children to not go into debt. If you can't afford it, don't buy it.

03 Jul 2012 07:00 PM
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jtown     
ricewater_stool: The Loaf: hmm... quick look on amazon... two dolls, $150 a pop, over 18 months....

Do the math, that's about $16 a month, or $4 a week allowance.

/Not exactly extravagant.


I guess my son, who gets $5 a week for doing his chores, is spoiled rotten.


Man, you guys are stingy! My base salary was $6/week when I was a kid. I got that just for existing. Additional funds could be earned by mowing the lawn, washing the cars, etc. In a good week, I could clear $15 tax free. And that kind of scratch went a long way when I was a kid.

03 Jul 2012 07:01 PM
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Sheila_McSly     
Fake letter is fake.

03 Jul 2012 07:01 PM
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Son of Thunder    [TotalFark]  
you_idiot: Last month I killed two hobos just to see what would happen.

I shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die.

03 Jul 2012 07:03 PM
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Thunderpipes     
Obama will pass a law I am sure. It is unfair for someone to have more toys than someone else.

03 Jul 2012 07:04 PM
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jayphat     
babtras: I am going to introduce my kid to real life by requiring that he / she borrow money from me in order to have any toys at all. Then work off the debt with accumulating interest and a 10 year amortization. Then when it's all paid off when they reach 18, they'll know how nice it feels to be debt free and don't fill out every credit card application that shows up in the mail.

holy crap. This has got to be the greatest thing I have ever read on here.

03 Jul 2012 07:08 PM
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Sheila_McSly     
The fact that the girl has 2 dolls means that both girls will be able to play together. Sharing toys is more fun than playing alone. The kids could even have a tea party.

03 Jul 2012 07:08 PM
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Fluorescent Testicle     
you_idiot: Last month I killed two hobos just to see what would happen.

i1.kym-cdn.com

03 Jul 2012 07:09 PM
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jayphat     
I'm more interested about the second question where the guy is an assistant to a
business mogul" who's banging a wife and girlfriend.

03 Jul 2012 07:10 PM
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Ringshadow     
I had an American Girl doll when I was younger. Addy? Abby? Whatever, the black girl.

Now American Girl dolls give me Uncanny Valley issues. They kinda creep me out.

That said, here's my Boy Desh and his dragon.

fc06.deviantart.net

03 Jul 2012 07:11 PM
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10up     
babtras: I am going to introduce my kid to real life by requiring that he / she borrow money from me in order to have any toys at all. Then work off the debt with accumulating interest and a 10 year amortization. Then when it's all paid off when they reach 18, they'll know how nice it feels to be debt free and don't fill out every credit card application that shows up in the mail.

what happens when they've still got a -$6,750 balance at 18, are 6 months behind on payments which have ONLY bean slightly above the minimum for the past 4 years, and now need to apply for student loans in order to start generating enough income to stay ahead of the accruing interest.

I'd sue them. That's what I was getting at.

03 Jul 2012 07:12 PM
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YouPeopleAreCrazy     
For those of you who are familiar with the stackexchange.com world....never ever venture into parenting.stackexchange.com.

The derp and cluelessness is wide and deep there.
The answers are usually good, but the questions....OMG.

/much as I imagine TFD to be

03 Jul 2012 07:13 PM
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tafka     
CSS time.

When my sisters & I were kids we really wanted a trampoline. So we all chipped in & saved up our allowances & any other money we had. And then when we had nearly enough for the trampoline, our mother used our entire savings to fund a shopping spree.

/Why yes she was a fat, abusive sow. Why do you ask?

03 Jul 2012 07:14 PM
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clowncar on fire     
Save up for a boob-job for your kid.

Once she hits 16, have her attend the next family gathering bra-less and see who gets all the attention then...

03 Jul 2012 07:15 PM
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ProfessorOhki     
Thunderpipes: Obama will pass a law I am sure. It is unfair for someone to have more toys than someone else.

I was just going to remark no one took the political angle yet.. but you should have gone the extra mile and asked if the littler girl was going to be taxed because she can't afford her own healthcare on a $4/wk allowance.

Ringshadow: Now American Girl dolls give me Uncanny Valley issues.

...and you immediately follow up with a BJD? What is this, I don't even.

03 Jul 2012 07:16 PM
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RedVentrue     
BurnShrike: Sounds like it's a perfect time to teach her kids that life isn't fair, and to get over it and move on.

Sounds like the perfect time to plant incriminating evidence at sis's workplace, then burn down the house of the offending relative.

Fun was had by all.

03 Jul 2012 07:17 PM
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EnviroDude    [TotalFark]  
Thunderpipes: Obama will pass a law I am sure. It is unfair for someone to have more toys than someone else.

This is what republicans believe

03 Jul 2012 07:20 PM
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darkjezter     
When I was a little kid and I biatched about things I didn't have, my parents would say things like "There are starving kids in Africa who would kill to have your problems. Get over it." This whiny, jealous coont needs to start telling her kids that.

03 Jul 2012 07:20 PM
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stonicus     
From the one about the secretary and cheating boss: If you want to stay, that means your terms of employment require you to make all aspects of his life as frictionless as possible.

Is it just me, or is she telling the secretary that SHE should be the one banging her boss?

03 Jul 2012 07:21 PM
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Benjimin_Dover     
ToxicMunkee: The Loaf: hmm... quick look on amazon... two dolls, $150 a pop, over 18 months....

Do the math, that's about $16 a month, or $4 a week allowance.

/Not exactly extravagant.

Which makes you wonder why "poor" sister can't seem to save up $150 in a year to surprise her kid with an American Girl doll for Christmas or something.


The mother should teach her kids a lesson on how to handle things in a responsible liberal fashion. The next time that rich one percenter biatch comes around with the spoils that society gave her, her kids should take one and redistribute it to themselves as the entitled poor. They should know that it is a right to do nothing and have things handed to you. Learn the ropes of navigating the welfare system and all that. Give them a leg up on the other kids.

03 Jul 2012 07:21 PM
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clowncar on fire     
tafka: CSS time.

When my sisters & I were kids we really wanted a trampoline. So we all chipped in & saved up our allowances & any other money we had. And then when we had nearly enough for the trampoline, our mother used our entire savings to fund a shopping spree.

/Why yes she was a fat, abusive sow. Why do you ask?


I saved up for a $50 calculator that added, subtracted, multiplied and divided. Also had a % key!
My brother saved up for a cassette recorder. Somewhere out there is a cassette tape with about 15 mins of farts recorded over a two year period.

03 Jul 2012 07:22 PM
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Gyrfalcon    [TotalFark]  
Glockenspiel Hero: What's the issue here? That the kid was able to save up for *18* months for two dolls she really wanted? Good for her and her parents- she's learning delayed gratification and money management.

My 7 year old son really wanted a Nintendo DS. Many of his friends have them and he's very upset that they were given them. But he gets $5/week in allowance and we just told him to save up if he really wanted it. He got serious about it a little while ago- he told us to stop him if he wanted to buy random toys with his allowance because he wanted to save for it.

He noticed the other day they were on sale at Wal Mart. The look on his face when he counted his allowance/saved birthday money was priceless- he had just enough. He's got his DS now, and it's *his* in a way that it never could be otherwise.


I entered into adulthood at the age of about 11 or 12, when I said to my mom one day "I want somethingorother," (a luxury item, not a necessity) and she said, "Well, you better start saving your money then."

WOW. What a concept! That I needed my own money to buy fun stuff! I didn't get an allowance (we were too poor), but I was allowed to work babysitting, caring for other people's pets & gardens, etc., and that was my money to save and spend. How fun was that! I learned the concepts of budgeting and overtime early on.

If more kids had parents like my mother, they wouldn't grow up to be shocked when they have to pay their student loans back BY THEMSELVES OMG!!!

03 Jul 2012 07:23 PM
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loonatic112358     
Ringshadow: I had an American Girl doll when I was younger. Addy? Abby? Whatever, the black girl.

Now American Girl dolls give me Uncanny Valley issues. They kinda creep me out.

That said, here's my Boy Desh and his dragon.

[fc06.deviantart.net image 640x480]


0o?

03 Jul 2012 07:24 PM
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jumba     
I had to google what an "American Girl" doll was.

Now when I cruise fark, what advertisements do I get on the side panel? American Girl dolls.

03 Jul 2012 07:25 PM
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ThatDarkFellow     
JRoo: [louxfamilyblog.com image 640x422]
She should be grateful her useless kid has even one toy and a hopeful future, instead of AIDS and death.


Please. If those kid ever became healthy they would be breaking into your house or mugging/killing you for your watch.

03 Jul 2012 07:26 PM
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SwiftFox     
My family could only afford to let me have a pet potato when I was growing up, and one day when the preacher was over Poky was served for Sunday dinner. I cried and cried when I found out.

03 Jul 2012 07:26 PM
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Jon iz teh kewl     
loonatic112358: Ringshadow: I had an American Girl doll when I was younger. Addy? Abby? Whatever, the black girl.

Now American Girl dolls give me Uncanny Valley issues. They kinda creep me out.

That said, here's my Boy Desh and his dragon.

[fc06.deviantart.net image 640x480]

0o?


0x0ABCDEF

03 Jul 2012 07:28 PM
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LoneWolf343     
CraicBaby: When I was a kid, I didn't even get an allowance.

Me either, family was too poor. You had to learn to be satisfied with what you have. That's a rarely-learned lesson in American.

03 Jul 2012 07:28 PM
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Welfare Xmas     
Dear fark Head,

You whiny farking biatch. Go apologize to everyone you pass on the street for being such a fark.

Love,

Purdie

03 Jul 2012 07:29 PM
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Smelly Pirate Hooker     
When I was a kid, we got an allowance for a little while (can't remember amount, it wasn't much). Then my parents hit the skids for about 10 years. No more allowance, no family vacations. Everybody else had more than we did (or so it seemed).

We got over it. I did, anyway. I live beneath my means now. One of my siblings has declared bankruptcy twice now. So I guess we learned different things from our childhood deprivation.

03 Jul 2012 07:31 PM
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loonatic112358     
Jon iz teh kewl: loonatic112358: Ringshadow: I had an American Girl doll when I was younger. Addy? Abby? Whatever, the black girl.

Now American Girl dolls give me Uncanny Valley issues. They kinda creep me out.

That said, here's my Boy Desh and his dragon.

[fc06.deviantart.net image 640x480]

0o?

0x0ABCDEF


it was a known error

doll a evokes uncanny valley whilst her other dolls seem farter down in that valley

03 Jul 2012 07:31 PM
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fanbladesaresharp     
ToxicMunkee: The Loaf: hmm... quick look on amazon... two dolls, $150 a pop, over 18 months....

Do the math, that's about $16 a month, or $4 a week allowance.

/Not exactly extravagant.

Which makes you wonder why "poor" sister can't seem to save up $150 in a year to surprise her kid with an American Girl doll for Christmas or something.


Some of them are $300 or nearly $400 before all the clothes and accessories

I'd be a little jaded that some kid needs a $300 doll but then I'm into model railroads (N-scale represent!) and an engine that fits in the palm of my hand can easily cost 2-300 bucks or more, so I can't complain. Somebody felt the need to write a letter to an advice column and biatch I guess.

03 Jul 2012 07:32 PM
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babyty     
maybe if you raised your kids to be bad asses, then they wouldnt want some stupid american girl dolls that are only made for dumb spoiled rich girls. maybe next time they saw their spoiled rich cousins theyd hold the american girl dolls hostage tied to a bees nest until they gave them half of their allowance every week!

03 Jul 2012 07:33 PM
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The Flexecutioner     
Ringshadow: I had an American Girl doll when I was younger. Addy? Abby? Whatever, the black girl.

Now American Girl dolls give me Uncanny Valley issues. They kinda creep me out.

That said, here's my Boy Desh and his dragon.

[fc06.deviantart.net image 640x480]


that's a boy?

03 Jul 2012 07:33 PM
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Carousel Beast     
Glockenspiel Hero: What's the issue here? That the kid was able to save up for *18* months for two dolls she really wanted? Good for her and her parents- she's learning delayed gratification and money management.

My 7 year old son really wanted a Nintendo DS. Many of his friends have them and he's very upset that they were given them. But he gets $5/week in allowance and we just told him to save up if he really wanted it. He got serious about it a little while ago- he told us to stop him if he wanted to buy random toys with his allowance because he wanted to save for it.

He noticed the other day they were on sale at Wal Mart. The look on his face when he counted his allowance/saved birthday money was priceless- he had just enough. He's got his DS now, and it's *his* in a way that it never could be otherwise.


My daughter is that way with her dinosaurs. They are well-cared for and always placed somewhere safe when not in use. She's also become a snob on what she'll spend her money on, and does research online before committing to her purchase. She's prioritized her purchases, too.

/She recommends Papo
//And has the $$$ already set aside for a kitten when we finish building our new home

Diclosure: My son has no such discipline despite the same system of chores/allowance/savings. So YMMV :/

03 Jul 2012 07:34 PM
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babyty     
or maybe you should teach your kids to tell their little rich cousins to take their american girl dolls and shove it up their.....

03 Jul 2012 07:35 PM
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clowncar on fire     
Sheila_McSly: The fact that the girl has 2 dolls means that both girls will be able to play together. Sharing toys is more fun than playing alone. The kids could even have a tea party.

You've outed yourself out as not an ihabitant of this planet Earth.

It is far more fun to hoard and look down upon the envy and sorrow. Sharing only occurs when they are on to your game and wander off to find more entertaining things to do. At that point, sharing your stuff becomes perfectly acceptable manner of buying friendship.

Of course, being an ALIEN, you wouldn't know this, would you? Of course not.

03 Jul 2012 07:36 PM
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Too Pretty For Prison     
Back in the late 70's I used my allowance for pot. It was 2 joints for a buck back then. I would imagine it costs a lot more today.

03 Jul 2012 07:43 PM
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elev8meL8r     
babyty: or maybe you should teach your kids to tell their little rich cousins to take their american girl dolls and shove it up their.....

...uncanny valleys?

03 Jul 2012 07:46 PM
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clowncar on fire     
babyty: or maybe you should teach your kids to tell their little rich cousins to take their american girl dolls and shove it up their.....

I see Auntie Myrtle leaving the party early to make the 7:43 evening flight out of Cleveland with three American Dolls tied to rear bumper of that Avis rental...

03 Jul 2012 07:47 PM
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NightSteel     
tafka: CSS time.

When my sisters & I were kids we really wanted a trampoline. So we all chipped in & saved up our allowances & any other money we had. And then when we had nearly enough for the trampoline, our mother used our entire savings to fund a shopping spree.

/Why yes she was a fat, abusive sow. Why do you ask?


Actually, an important lesson to learn in today's world: Work hard and save your money, 'cause without it, someone more important than you won't get to steal it for their shopping spree and suffer no consequence.

03 Jul 2012 07:47 PM
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lostinjersey     
I dunno. it all depends on how the other kids and parents act. Some people have more and are humble about it, others love to stick it in your face. it's not so cut and dried. Any magic;tg player who has faced Mr Suitcase knows exactly what I am talking about.

//was a mr suitcase but didn't realize it
//never thought I was flaunting anything, but I was
//nobody liked it
//i felt bad when i realized it
//slashies!!!!!

03 Jul 2012 07:48 PM
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Ringshadow     
loonatic112358: it was a known error

doll a evokes uncanny valley whilst her other dolls seem farter down in that valley


Uncanny Valley, as near as I can tell, has no set point. It's personal: yours is a bit different then someone else's.

For me, I couldn't watch Avatar. Even the preview skeeved me out so bad. The blue critters apparently are in my Uncanny Valley. And so are most old porcelain dolls and a lot of American Girl dolls. They creep me out.

My boy Desh, with his Coyote Taxidermy eyes? He's the sweetest poutiest doll.

fc00.deviantart.net
Old wig with some eye glow going on.

fc06.deviantart.net
Current wig, and his kneebrace.

/I have four ball joint dolls but Desh is my favorite
//he always is looking at you. ALWAYS
///yes, he's a boy, no I'm not going to pants him to prove it

03 Jul 2012 07:49 PM
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clowncar on fire     
Too Pretty For Prison: Back in the late 70's I used my allowance for pot. It was 2 joints for a buck back then. I would imagine it costs a lot more today.

Toledo Window box. All stems and seeds. Unless you lived in a 3rd world country...

03 Jul 2012 07:49 PM
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ladyfortuna     
clowncar on fire: Sheila_McSly:

It is far more fun to hoard and look down upon the envy and sorrow. Sharing only occurs when they are on to your game and wander off to find more entertaining things to do. At that point, sharing your stuff becomes perfectly acceptable manner of buying friendship.


It could be said that I hoard video games (the legacy of six years both able to snag the good stuff and having a store discount, really). I seriously would be happy to share them with friends who want to play ___ title, but I learned quickly that I only had maybe two friends that I could trust to return them in the same condition they went out in. This is a lesson that has been expanded to ban Lordfortuna's entire family from borrowing our DVDs, after my Buffy seasons came back scratched... and also his dad misplaced some stuff for a while which was hard to do while living in the same house.

Sharing is great, but people suck and don't take care of your things. The one friend I still see sometimes that I trust, we have a mutual agreement. I've had some of his stuff for more than a year, but he knows it's perfectly safe in my hands. Which reminds me, I need to get it back to him.

03 Jul 2012 07:50 PM
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elev8meL8r     
JRoo: [louxfamilyblog.com image 640x422]


louxfamilyblog.com

Yeesh. Those are some pretty creepy dolls.

Apparently being rich doesn't buy you good taste.

03 Jul 2012 07:51 PM
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WTF_Are_You_Looking_At     
IMO - Dear Prudence got trolled.

03 Jul 2012 07:55 PM
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