Is the assertion here that if they're not active in the organization, that somehow makes them not black? Or is it that the votes for Romney-supporting African-Americans don't count? Ooh, there's a slogan for you:

"Meet the NEW NAACP -- Proudly representing 3/5ths of the black community!"

/Remind me again how they're not racists?

gerrymander: Is the assertion here that if they're not active in the organization, that somehow makes them not black? Or is it that the votes for Romney-supporting African-Americans don't count? Ooh, there's a slogan for you:

The assertion is that Romney attempted to stack the deck by bringing in people who would cheer for him no matter what and that those people aren't members or supporters of the NAACP, in order to make it appear that the NAACP supported him.

It's also awesome how you answered your own question in order to play the race card, though.

Aarontology: gerrymander: Is the assertion here that if they're not active in the organization, that somehow makes them not black? Or is it that the votes for Romney-supporting African-Americans don't count? Ooh, there's a slogan for you:

The assertion is that Romney attempted to stack the deck by bringing in people who would cheer for him no matter what and that those people aren't members or supporters of the NAACP, in order to make it appear that the NAACP supported him.

It's also awesome how you answered your own question in order to play the race card, though.

Aren't victimized whiteys a peach?

Color me shocked.

Ok, seriously though, fark Romney for astroturfing. I say this as someone who used to astroturf for local Republicans.

Vodka Zombie: Aren't victimized whiteys a peach?

Right? It wasn't that difficult to understand what the guy was saying. Like palladiate says, it was astroturfing, pure and simple

Anyone would want to try to appear more popular then they really are in front of a group that's not traditionally supportive. It's not even that big of an issue.

palladiate: astroturfing

Ah, THAT's the term I was trying to think of! I knew there was a word for this.

Well, Romney did say he had secret black supporters.

Turns out there's a good reason they're secret: he hired them.

gerrymander: Is the assertion here that if they're not active in the organization, that somehow makes them not black?

No. it's not.

Man, I can't keep up with this anymore.

It used to be "BUSING! BUSING1"

Then yesterday it was "FREELOADERS!"

Now we're back to busing again?

gerrymander: Is the assertion here that if they're not active in the organization, that somehow makes them not black? Or is it that the votes for Romney-supporting African-Americans don't count? Ooh, there's a slogan for you:

"Meet the NEW NAACP -- Proudly representing 3/5ths of the black community!"

/Remind me again how they're not racists?

Don't worry sweetie. The GOP will take you back to the 50's any day now.

Aarontology: gerrymander: Is the assertion here that if they're not active in the organization, that somehow makes them not black? Or is it that the votes for Romney-supporting African-Americans don't count? Ooh, there's a slogan for you:

The assertion is that Romney attempted to stack the deck by bringing in people who would cheer for him no matter what and that those people aren't members or supporters of the NAACP, in order to make it appear that the NAACP supported him

But that gets us back to my point. The NAACP doesn't position itself as representing some liberal blacks. It advances (heh) itself as a representative of all blacks in America. Complaining that Romney brought his own support directly undermines that presentation. It's an outright admission that "we don't associate with those people" is a valid form of discrimination -- ironic, considering the source.

Y'know, this kinda ruins that whole "I meant for them to boo me" excuse of his.

Afroturfing?

gerrymander: But that gets us back to my point. The NAACP doesn't position itself as representing some liberal blacks. It advances (heh) itself as a representative of all blacks in America. Complaining that Romney brought his own support directly undermines that presentation. It's an outright admission that "we don't associate with those people" is a valid form of discrimination -- ironic, considering the source.

No, it means Romney is trying to play both sides. He made his comments to the NAACP so that it would look to his base like he was standing up to the organization while at the same time bringing in ringers to make it look like the NAACP was supporting him.

But wait - Lawrence O'Donnell said the idea was to intentionally get boo'ed to help shore up the support of racists. I'm so confused now.

palladiate: Color me shocked.

Ok, seriously though, fark Romney for astroturfing. I say this as someone who used to astroturf for local Republicans.

I see what you did there.

Triumph: But wait - Lawrence O'Donnell said the idea was to intentionally get boo'ed to help shore up the support of racists. I'm so confused now.

As an uber libby super lib that libs all the lib long day, I tell you that Lawrence O'Donnel is a smug jackwagon that should never have been given a show. Don't listen to him, he's a jerk.

make me some tea: palladiate: astroturfing afroturfingAh, THAT's the term I was trying to think of! I knew there was a word for this.

Considering he got a standing ovation after his speech, Romney did well.

Aarontology: The assertion is that Romney attempted to stack the deck by bringing in people who would cheer for him no matter what and that those people aren't members or supporters of the NAACP, in order to make it appear that the NAACP supported him.

It was reported that there were probably only about 600 people total there. Not exactly a big turn-out for a Presidential candidate.

And if the NAACP's argument is that Romney can pull together enough blacks who support him to fill an audience at an NAACP meeting...

...well I'm not sure he's making the argument he intends to make.

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Triumph: But wait - Lawrence O'Donnell said the idea was to intentionally get boo'ed to help shore up the support of racists. I'm so confused now.

As an uber libby super lib that libs all the lib long day, I tell you that Lawrence O'Donnel is a smug jackwagon that should never have been given a show. Don't listen to him, he's a jerk.

Sadly, I agree.

Mentat: gerrymander: Is the assertion here that if they're not active in the organization, that somehow makes them not black? Or is it that the votes for Romney-supporting African-Americans don't count? Ooh, there's a slogan for you:

"Meet the NEW NAACP -- Proudly representing 3/5ths of the black community!"

/Remind me again how they're not racists?

Don't worry sweetie. The GOP will take you back to the 50's any day now.

Problem. They want it to be the 1750s.

Tarkus: Afroturfing?

Nice. +1. Would chuckle again.

gerrymander: Is the assertion here that if they're not active in the organization, that somehow makes them not black?

No. Where do you even come up with this bullshiat?

Or is it that the votes for Romney-supporting African-Americans don't count?

Again, no. Again, where do you even come up with this bullshiat?

All2morrowsparTs: Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Triumph: But wait - Lawrence O'Donnell said the idea was to intentionally get boo'ed to help shore up the support of racists. I'm so confused now.

As an uber libby super lib that libs all the lib long day, I tell you that Lawrence O'Donnel is a smug jackwagon that should never have been given a show. Don't listen to him, he's a jerk.

Sadly, I agree.

You'd prefer Olbermann came back?

Tarkus: Afroturfing?

_{Shakes tiny fist!}

Don't Troll Me Bro!: gerrymander: Is the assertion here that if they're not active in the organization, that somehow makes them not black?

No. Where do you even come up with this bullshiat?

Or is it that the votes for Romney-supporting African-Americans don't count?

Again, no. Again, where do you even come up with this bullshiat?

In fairness, the NAACP person did seem to be clearly stating that support for Romney and support for the NAACP are at least somewhat mutually exclusive. Since apparantly "No true scotsman" would support Romney.

fusillade762: All2morrowsparTs: Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Triumph: But wait - Lawrence O'Donnell said the idea was to intentionally get boo'ed to help shore up the support of racists. I'm so confused now.

As an uber libby super lib that libs all the lib long day, I tell you that Lawrence O'Donnel is a smug jackwagon that should never have been given a show. Don't listen to him, he's a jerk.

Sadly, I agree.

You'd prefer Olbermann came back?

Actually yes. I think Olbermann was a more charismatic smug jackwagon.

Triumph: But wait - Lawrence O'Donnell said the idea was to intentionally get boo'ed to help shore up the support of racists. I'm so confused now.

Here's a clue...

But he received scattered applause at other junctures in his address, including when he said he would uphold traditional marriage.

The GOP are well aware that among African-Americans and especially within black churches acceptance of gay civil rights including marriage for gays is not that great and that puts them at odds with most of the rest of the major Dem constituents. The GOP cynically work to exploit that divide for all it's worth. Been seeing this meme on the internets for years now including on Fark.

The Mormon church dropped millions supporting Prop H8 in California last year.

Wondering now how many of these flown-in supporters came from there.

Mitt Romney: "I have black friends!"

Now I see how Rmoney knew they were gonna boo him. He hired them.

gerrymander: It's an outright admission that "we don't associate with those people" is a valid form of discrimination

There appears to be no problem with people who support Romney showing up but rather with the people being brought by the Romney campaign despite lack of association with the NAACP. The intent is to provide appearances of agreement and approval.

fusillade762: All2morrowsparTs: Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Triumph: But wait - Lawrence O'Donnell said the idea was to intentionally get boo'ed to help shore up the support of racists. I'm so confused now.

As an uber libby super lib that libs all the lib long day, I tell you that Lawrence O'Donnel is a smug jackwagon that should never have been given a show. Don't listen to him, he's a jerk.

Sadly, I agree.

You'd prefer Olbermann came back?

Do I have to choose between the two of them? How about a journalist that does their homework? That'd be f*cking nice.

But at least Olbermann had a really nice reading voice.

Romney hit a home run at the NAACP. Now desperate Democrats rationalize and change the subject.

gerrymander: The NAACP doesn't position itself as representing some liberal blacks. It advances (heh) itself as a representative of all blacks in America.

The NAACP positions itself as representing those who wish for 'Colored People' to Advance. Make Progress.

Progress ≐ Progressive ≐ Liberal ≐ Democrat

The NAACP does not position itself as a representative of all blacks in America.

From their website:

"Since 1941 the NAACP has been the premier civil rights advocacy entity on Capitol Hill. The NAACP was a leading force behind the enactment of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, the 1965 Voting Rights Act, the 1968 Fair Housing Act, the 1991 Civil Rights Restoration Act and the 2002 Help America Vote Act, the most current reauthorization of the Voting Rights Act among countless others. "

But there you go, putting race first.

LargeCanine: Romney hit a home run at the NAACP. Now desperate Democrats rationalize and change the subject.

Are you farking kidding me with this? After Biden's home run today?

LargeCanine: Romney hit a home run at the NAACP. Now desperate Democrats rationalize and change the subject.

You're an idiot. Goodbye.

LargeCanine: Romney hit a home run at the NAACP. Now desperate Democrats rationalize and change the subject.

Your definition of a "home run" (end of quote) is quite strange.

Can't lie: if he paid me, I'd cheer, too.

LargeCanine: Romney hit a home run at the NAACP. Now desperate Democrats rationalize and change the subject.

I'm Undeclared, you are a delusional idiot.

BojanglesPaladin: Don't Troll Me Bro!: gerrymander: Is the assertion here that if they're not active in the organization, that somehow makes them not black?

No. Where do you even come up with this bullshiat?

Or is it that the votes for Romney-supporting African-Americans don't count?

Again, no. Again, where do you even come up with this bullshiat?

In fairness, the NAACP person did seem to be clearly stating that support for Romney and support for the NAACP are at least somewhat mutually exclusive. Since apparantly "No true scotsman" would support Romney.

That is not "in fairness". This was a speech to the NAACP. Romney hired people that apparently weren't in the NAACP to cheer for him.

ib_thinkin: Can't lie: if he paid me, I'd cheer, too.

Seriously? You need/want money that bad?

Must kind of suck to be so unpopular that you have to hire people to cheer for you.

Two important points:

Hilary Shelton is a man.

Blacks who support Romney are sharecrappers.

tenpoundsofcheese: Considering he got a standing ovation after his speech, Romney did well.

Totally. He just might get single digits of the black vote.

nyseattitude: ib_thinkin: Can't lie: if he paid me, I'd cheer, too.

Seriously? You need/want money that bad?

You ask, like you don't know I'm a heeb. I'm just waiting for Mitt Romney to start campaigning in New York City. BIG MONEY BIG MONEY!

nyseattitude: ib_thinkin: Can't lie: if he paid me, I'd cheer, too.

Seriously? You need/want money that bad?

Depends on how much they offered, but kind of... yeah. Being an artist is feast or famine, I find. In those lean times, one sometimes has to take what they can get and not be too picky.

Vangor: gerrymander: It's an outright admission that "we don't associate with those people" is a valid form of discrimination

There appears to be no problem with people who support Romney showing up but rather with the people being brought by the Romney campaign despite lack of association with the NAACP. The intent is to provide appearances of agreement and approval.

and do you think it is unusual for politicians to recruit people who support them to show up at an event?

nyseattitude: LargeCanine: Romney hit a home run at the NAACP. Now desperate Democrats rationalize and change the subject.

I'm Undeclared, you are a delusional idiot.

Sure you are.