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13 Jul 2012 12:55 PM   |   9021 clicks   |   popscomics.com
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ilikeracecars     
And the first comic that showed up was the old "every thing on the menu and a diet coke" joke. Great stuff.

13 Jul 2012 12:58 PM
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BumpInTheNight     
Tl;DR. Also: Your blog sucks.

13 Jul 2012 01:05 PM
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taxandspend     
ilikeracecars: And the first comic that showed up was the old "every thing on the menu and a diet coke" joke. Great stuff.

Yeah, when the first comic people will see is a joke straight from an advertisement of Kristie Alley's "Fat Actress," I have very little interest in everything else. The world already has dozens of comics that feature unfunny, obvious humor; it doesn't need another one.

13 Jul 2012 01:06 PM
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flaminio     
I got as far as the inappropriate "it's".

I'm glad your dumb comic never got published, and you should feel bad for wasting your life. Now go dig a ditch.

13 Jul 2012 01:13 PM
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Quantum Apostrophe     
flaminio: I got as far as the inappropriate "it's".

I stopped at "tongue and cheek".

13 Jul 2012 01:17 PM
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Everyone Sucks But Me     
flaminio: I got as far as the inappropriate "it's".

I'm glad your dumb comic never got published, and you should feel bad for wasting your life. Now go dig a ditch.


t1.gstatic.com

Second

13 Jul 2012 01:18 PM
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inclemency    [TotalFark]  
Wow. Everything I came to say has been covered in 6 comments.

God bless fark.

13 Jul 2012 01:24 PM
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Honest Bender    [TotalFark]  
I know it's already been pointed out, but tongue and cheek? I guess writing isn't for everyone...

13 Jul 2012 01:32 PM
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improvius     
popscomics.com

It's funny, see, because the diet soda isn't really going to help him lose much weight.

Fresh! Edgy!

13 Jul 2012 01:35 PM
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Ed Willy     
ilikeracecars: And the first comic that showed up was the old "every thing on the menu and a diet coke" joke. Great stuff.

I dug further back. Basically all the same hack work. He has decent drawing talent, and under a better writer this could become something great. But no, the syndicate was right to drop this. That old person audience is already covered by Pluggers

13 Jul 2012 01:36 PM
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Christian Bale     
ilikeracecars: And the first comic that showed up was the old "every thing on the menu and a diet coke" joke. Great stuff.


That's what happens when you "work to create a 6-10 month backlog." You have to use every idea (and re-use every idea that's already been done).

He should have culled the best samples out of the lot instead of using everything, then maybe we'd feel a tiny bit sorry this strip never saw the proper light of day.

Too bad about the contract though, that sucks to get screwed over and have no real recourse.

13 Jul 2012 01:45 PM
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Warrener     
Ed Willy: That old person audience is already covered by Pluggers

I don't think you can really over saturate the old person market in news papers.

For god's sake the demographic that reads newspapers routinely gets offended at how extreme Get Fuzzy and Dilbert are.

13 Jul 2012 01:48 PM
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MadMonk     
hahhahahaha...hoo....hahahahaha...oh boy...let me catch my breath here. teehee..and get this....hahaha, oh man it's just too much....whooo A Diet Soda? Are you kidding me? Man, my sides are splitting over here...stop it, STOP IT! I can't take it....

13 Jul 2012 01:56 PM
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RichieLaw     
improvius: [popscomics.com image 640x220]

It's funny, see, because the diet soda isn't really going to help him lose much weight.

Fresh! Edgy!


You know, I never really get that argument. A 32 oz regular soda contains around 400 calories. If you eat out 5 times a week, and order the diet soda each time, you're saving yourself 2000 calories a week, well over half a pound!

I mean, eating at McDonalds won't help you lose weight, but to say people are stupid for limiting their calories by 300-600 calories in a meal is kind of asinine.

13 Jul 2012 01:56 PM
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Lorelle    [TotalFark]  
Christian Bale: ilikeracecars: And the first comic that showed up was the old "every thing on the menu and a diet coke" joke. Great stuff.


That's what happens when you "work to create a 6-10 month backlog." You have to use every idea (and re-use every idea that's already been done).

He should have culled the best samples out of the lot instead of using everything, then maybe we'd feel a tiny bit sorry this strip never saw the proper light of day.

Too bad about the contract though, that sucks to get screwed over and have no real recourse.


Not to mention the fact that the strips were created 10 years ago, which explains why many of them are terribly outdated.

13 Jul 2012 01:58 PM
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mcmnky     
Lorelle: Christian Bale: ilikeracecars: And the first comic that showed up was the old "every thing on the menu and a diet coke" joke. Great stuff.


That's what happens when you "work to create a 6-10 month backlog." You have to use every idea (and re-use every idea that's already been done).

He should have culled the best samples out of the lot instead of using everything, then maybe we'd feel a tiny bit sorry this strip never saw the proper light of day.

Too bad about the contract though, that sucks to get screwed over and have no real recourse.

Not to mention the fact that the strips were created 10 years ago, which explains why many of them are terribly outdated.


I read Calvin & Hobbes, Farside, Family Circus strips from over 10 years ago. Those never seem outdated.

13 Jul 2012 02:46 PM
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rudemix     
His local paper is the Arizona Republic. I got that far and concluded fark him. You live in Arizona, Comic Hack, you get whatever happens to you. Though, a comic about the elderly on the cusp of a new era could hit big in Arizona. It just would need to be about things that confuse old Arizonans like poors, browns and womens not stepping off the sidewalk and into the gutter when elderly whites walk by. It would need to include topical humor about how all browns take from whites on social medicine and income. It would have to work in stuff about sluts needing birth control to be sluts. It could also including some hilarious tongue between teeth humor about banning minotiry studies and pulling books like Bless Me, Ultima from libraries. He should have left out the dated diet soda reference and drawn a cartoon about old shrivs snowbirding to AZ and skull farking the whole state.

13 Jul 2012 02:57 PM
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dryknife     
www.fudebakudo.com

13 Jul 2012 03:10 PM
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Marty Devoid     
I like the linework, but that writing... blech.

13 Jul 2012 03:14 PM
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FormlessOne     
mcmnky: I read Calvin & Hobbes, Farside, Family Circus strips from over 10 years ago. Those never seem outdated.

That's because, unlike this well-drawn but otherwise trite & hackneyed crap, those strips were good.

13 Jul 2012 03:21 PM
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Metaluna Mutant     
dryknife: [www.fudebakudo.com image 383x280]


Kliban rules.

13 Jul 2012 03:37 PM
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EdgeRunner    [TotalFark]  
FormlessOne: mcmnky: I read Calvin & Hobbes, Farside, Family Circus strips from over 10 years ago. Those never seem outdated.

That's because, unlike this well-drawn but otherwise trite & hackneyed crap, those strips were good.


That's two votes for Family Circus being good? I just... I don't... Erg flug grbfki..rghffkjfkjnf..!!!

/great, my brain just imploded. Thanks a lot, guys.

13 Jul 2012 03:39 PM
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nytmare     
What's the solution? Put in a clause that says you pay me $5000 if you reneg? I wonder why that wasn't in there to begin with. You have a shiatty agent, cartooniman.

13 Jul 2012 03:44 PM
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theesir     
That's just the kind of cutting edge, baby-boomer cartoonin' I've been looking for!! I'm going to offer him a 17 year contract!

13 Jul 2012 03:45 PM
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Bleyo     
mcmnky: read Calvin & Hobbes, Farside, Family Circus strips from over 10 years ago.

One of these is not like the others.

13 Jul 2012 03:53 PM
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Handsome B. Wonderful     
RichieLaw: You know, I never really get that argument. A 32 oz regular soda contains around 400 calories. If you eat out 5 times a week, and order the diet soda each time, you're saving yourself 2000 calories a week, well over half a pound!

I don't get this counter-argument. Eating out 5 times a week?

13 Jul 2012 03:55 PM
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Zombie Eater     
The humor's done-to-death bland. The art is just fine, but does EVERYTHING have to be a goddamned closeup? It's standard newspaper size, and I feel like I have to lean much further back from my monitor.

13 Jul 2012 04:00 PM
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Optimal_Illusion     
I could just as easily pick it to pieces like most of upthread, but since this was all backlog that never got a chance to be published at it's time, I can't criticize what could have been. If he had some exposure under his belt, no telling how the strip would have developed. It might have even garnered a spot getting riffed at Comics Curmudgeon, a rare treat indeed. The real story is how he was built up by the Syndicate, then had the rug pulled out from under. That was stealing 40 cakes level terrible.

13 Jul 2012 04:29 PM
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RichieLaw     
Handsome B. Wonderful: RichieLaw: You know, I never really get that argument. A 32 oz regular soda contains around 400 calories. If you eat out 5 times a week, and order the diet soda each time, you're saving yourself 2000 calories a week, well over half a pound!

I don't get this counter-argument. Eating out 5 times a week?


I would say I eat out at least 5 times a week. 5 meals out of 21 isn't a large stretch and is probably much less than the average American. Further, those that eat out fast food a lot (I do not) will likely get even more of a benefit from drinking diet soda. Yes, they shouldn't eat such crap in the first place, but to disparage them for cutting out an extra 300-400 calories at a meal seems counter-intuitive.

13 Jul 2012 04:31 PM
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FormlessOne     
EdgeRunner: FormlessOne: mcmnky: I read Calvin & Hobbes, Farside, Family Circus strips from over 10 years ago. Those never seem outdated.

That's because, unlike this well-drawn but otherwise trite & hackneyed crap, those strips were good.

That's two votes for Family Circus being good? I just... I don't... Erg flug grbfki..rghffkjfkjnf..!!!

/great, my brain just imploded. Thanks a lot, guys.


It's a relative term. Family Circus, as tired as it is these days, is still better than this inked hot mess.

13 Jul 2012 05:08 PM
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rjakobi     
And yet Funky Winkerbean still rolls on.

13 Jul 2012 05:10 PM
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Odd Bird     
theesir: That's just the kind of cutting edge, baby-boomer cartoonin' I've been looking for!! I'm going to offer him a 17 year contract!

I wouldn't offer one and sure as shait wouldn't sign one w/o one bunch of riders and clauses which more than guananteed me the other party's soul and choice of of-age female relatives.

13 Jul 2012 05:12 PM
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The My Little Pony Killer     
Cabbage Patch Kids.

13 Jul 2012 05:51 PM
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jpmattos     
Bleyo: mcmnky: read Calvin & Hobbes, Farside, Family Circus strips from over 10 years ago.

One of these is not like the others.


You're right, family circus was awesome.

13 Jul 2012 05:59 PM
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HatMadeOfAss     
popscomics.com

Who knew slave ships could be so funny!

/Comic sucks harder than your sister on prom night

13 Jul 2012 06:11 PM
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some_beer_drinker    [TotalFark]  
Quantum Apostrophe: flaminio: I got as far as the inappropriate "it's".

I stopped at "tongue and cheek".


ya, me too. bye.

13 Jul 2012 06:48 PM
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dehehn    [TotalFark]  
Yeah he's a good artist, but being a good artist doesn't make you funny. RIP Calvin.

13 Jul 2012 07:25 PM
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poot_rootbeer    [TotalFark]  
Christian Bale: Too bad about the contract though, that sucks to get screwed over and have no real recourse.

Maybe next time don't do work that you don't have an ironclad contract for.

You've decided not to honor the 17-year syndication deal we both signed? There's a five-year buyout clause. Pay me.

/can't blame them for dropping this lazy crap.

13 Jul 2012 07:38 PM
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mcmnky     
EdgeRunner: FormlessOne: mcmnky: I read Calvin & Hobbes, Farside, Family Circus strips from over 10 years ago. Those never seem outdated.

That's because, unlike this well-drawn but otherwise trite & hackneyed crap, those strips were good.

That's two votes for Family Circus being good? I just... I don't... Erg flug grbfki..rghffkjfkjnf..!!!

/great, my brain just imploded. Thanks a lot, guys.


I almost went with Ziggy, but fark seems more the Family Circus crowd.

/but I was serious about the first two
//timeless art is timeless

13 Jul 2012 08:29 PM
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Trik     
read a couple months worth just to make sure I wasn't rushing to judgment

peeeeyew

that's juat eff'ing bad

13 Jul 2012 09:14 PM
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furiousidiot     
Wow did Fark suddenly turn into Kuro5hin today what with all the critics.

14 Jul 2012 12:02 AM
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DeepDownHounds     
www.coldbacon.com

B. Kliban does rule. I wish I could find his "bra full of nickels" piece.

14 Jul 2012 02:01 AM
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DeepDownHounds     
2.bp.blogspot.com

14 Jul 2012 02:02 AM
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BumpInTheNight     
furiousidiot: Wow did Fark suddenly turn into Kuro5hin today what with all the critics.

I don't know what that is, but it sounds like it sucks.

14 Jul 2012 09:26 AM
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kroonermanblack     
Ed Willy: ilikeracecars: And the first comic that showed up was the old "every thing on the menu and a diet coke" joke. Great stuff.

I dug further back. Basically all the same hack work. He has decent drawing talent, and under a better writer this could become something great. But no, the syndicate was right to drop this. That old person audience is already covered by Pluggers


It's what he designed the comic to be apparently. I didn't see anything except a blog post (no comic) and skimmed that, expecting some hilarious shenanigans about an artist getting screwed etc.

Instead I got 'I vat-grew this comic to appeal to aging retirees of the Baby Boomer generation like 4,000,000 other people/things/ideas, and the studio was initially interested in this but quickly realized they could simply produce it in-house by yet another hack retard artist/writer huffing gas fumes for pennies on my dollar'.

The ONLY place this...smeg...could survive would be the newspaper, next to Funky Winkerbead, Family Circle, and Garfield.

It's a generic distilation of pap that people might scan over when looking for 'edgier' Dilbert comics.

14 Jul 2012 09:45 AM
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jso2897     
The people looked at samples of his strip, saw that it was quite well-drawn, and expressed interest. He then labored for a few months and demonstrated that his talent for storytelling is utterly absent, and all the good drawing in the world won't make the strip readable.
He needs to un-delude himself and hook up with a writer.

14 Jul 2012 11:46 AM
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Quickmatch     
Is it just me or does Pops look like The Lorax? Has anyone called the Dr. about this?

16 Jul 2012 11:56 AM
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FormlessOne     
jso2897: The people looked at samples of his strip, saw that it was quite well-drawn, and expressed interest. He then labored for a few months and demonstrated that his talent for storytelling is utterly absent, and all the good drawing in the world won't make the strip readable.
He needs to un-delude himself and hook up with a writer.


This, actually. He needs to pull a Penny Arcade.

16 Jul 2012 01:41 PM
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