| Wisconsin Governor Walker says ObamaCare will be devastating to Wisconsin..... causing people to lose their insurance, cows to die by the thousands, cheese to turn into sand and everyone's left foot will fall off |
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| Weaver95 it's ok - just sell off more state assets to your corporate buddies and its all good. |
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| Durendal Cats and dogs living together, mass hysteria! |
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| YoungSwedishBlonde
Wait, I thought it was the Teachers Unions that were destroying your shiatty state? |
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| coeyagi Who cares what that dirty c*nt thinks. |
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| HotWingConspiracy
Healthcare will kill us all. |
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| Cletus C.
Who is Scott Walker? I can't recall. |
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| Teufelaffe You know, I've been meaning to get rid of my left foot for a while now. Do I have to move to Wisconsin for it to happen, or can I just visit? |
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| jigger
HotWingConspiracy: Healthcare will kill us all. As it consumes a greater and greater percentage of the economy, it just might. |
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| TrollingForColumbine Teufelaffe: You know, I've been meaning to get rid of my left foot for a while now. Do I have to move to Wisconsin for it to happen, or can I just visit? Just mail it back to netflicks. |
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| Wook
God Bless Scott Walker!!! |
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| Ken VeryBigLiar
Drought and diabetes will have the many of the same effect and they're both prevalent right now in this state. |
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| Petey4335
Dear Scotty, I'm one of your constituents paying for myself and my wife to partake in the state sponsored HIRSP program. With exchanges set up, we could maybe consider another choice besides the one and only choice afforded to us, subsidized by Wisconsin insurance companies and the state. Thank you, -Petey4335 |
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Thigvald the Big-Balled
![]() "My brother, he had the brilliant idea of picking his toenails with a scythe... and his foot fell off." |
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| machoprogrammer
Wook: God Bless Scott Walker!!! I see a ton of those bumper stickers and lawn signs on the drive up to and in the Fox Cities. How anyone can think the governor selling state assets to his corporate overlords and disbanding unions is a good thing is beyond me. |
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| Imperialism
-- 150,000 people will stop buying health insurance in the private sector and will instead become dependent on the government and taxpayers How is that possible? Isn't the point of the whole thing that people have to buy insurance? Approximately 122,000 parents, caretakers and pregnant women with an income of more than 133 percent of the federal poverty level will no longer be eligible for Medicaid. Yeah I'm sure Scott Walker is in favor of expanding Medicaid. |
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| HotWingConspiracy
jigger: HotWingConspiracy: Healthcare will kill us all. As it consumes a greater and greater percentage of the economy, it just might. We're the richest nation in the entirety of human history. We just have idiotic priorities. |
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| bwilson27
My Gov can beat your Gov any day! -Sincerely, AZ |
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| Ken VeryBigLiar
Imperialism: How is that possible? Isn't the point of the whole thing that people have to buy insurance? One talking is point is that there doesn't seem to be anything stopping businesses from getting downright terrible (for coverage or price) plans to offer their employees. Employees say "Aw, Hell Naw!" and have to go to the exchanges, not their employer, for coverage. |
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| cmb53208
Scott Walker has said some incredibly stupid shiat, but this is the dumbest yet: he's the North's answer to Nikki Haley. |
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| quatchi
Walker failed to mention what Gruber said was a key finding of his report; the fact that 340,000 uninsured Wisconsinites would gain coverage. Not sure whether to feel sorry for people living in Wisconsin nowadays or just say "Hey, you had your chance, suck it". Depends a lot on my current state of caffeination. |
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| Virulency
HotWingConspiracy: jigger: HotWingConspiracy: Healthcare will kill us all. As it consumes a greater and greater percentage of the economy, it just might. We're the richest nation in the entirety of human history. We just have idiotic priorities. Well spend a billion dollars on something that doesnt work just because we can... Persistent yes efficient or smart no.... |
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| Imperialism
Ken VeryBigLiar: Imperialism: How is that possible? Isn't the point of the whole thing that people have to buy insurance? One talking is point is that there doesn't seem to be anything stopping businesses from getting downright terrible (for coverage or price) plans to offer their employees. Employees say "Aw, Hell Naw!" and have to go to the exchanges, not their employer, for coverage. Scott Walker would be in favor of tighter regulations on that, right? |
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| Lost Thought 00
Ken VeryBigLiar: Imperialism: How is that possible? Isn't the point of the whole thing that people have to buy insurance? One talking is point is that there doesn't seem to be anything stopping businesses from getting downright terrible (for coverage or price) plans to offer their employees. So, basically exactly like right now. Except that all plans are also covered by the profit limit regulations. |
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| LouDobbsAwaaaay
Wisconsin Governor Walker says ObamaCare will be devastating to Wisconsin So what's he afraid of, copyright infringement? |
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| fringedmyotis
Virulency: Well spend a billion dollars on something that doesnt work just because we can... Persistent yes efficient or smart no.... Whatever we've been doing up till now certainly doesn't work, that's for sure. |
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| Graffito
Ken VeryBigLiar: Imperialism: How is that possible? Isn't the point of the whole thing that people have to buy insurance? One talking is point is that there doesn't seem to be anything stopping businesses from getting downright terrible (for coverage or price) plans to offer their employees. Employees say "Aw, Hell Naw!" and have to go to the exchanges, not their employer, for coverage. Why don't employers do that now? I would think the same reasons the employers subsidized health insurance now would apply in the future. |
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| TimonC346 So basically in Wisconsin you should only be entitled to healthcare if it is an emergency or of you are rich? |
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| HotWingConspiracy
quatchi: Walker failed to mention what Gruber said was a key finding of his report; the fact that 340,000 uninsured Wisconsinites would gain coverage. Not sure whether to feel sorry for people living in Wisconsin nowadays or just say "Hey, you had your chance, suck it". Depends a lot on my current state of caffeination. |
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| Wook
machoprogrammer: Wook: God Bless Scott Walker!!! I see a ton of those bumper stickers and lawn signs on the drive up to and in the Fox Cities. How anyone can think the governor selling state assets to his corporate overlords and disbanding unions is a good thing is beyond me. His cajones and policies would actually fix the problems plaguing CA. How anyone can think that putting state employee unions (private sector funded) above its citizens (private sector) is beyond me. |
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| sethstorm
Now we know what Flagg looks like from The Stand - Mr. Scott Walker |
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| sethstorm
Wook: His cajones and policies would actually fix the problems plaguing CA. How anyone can think that putting state employee unions (private sector funded) above its citizens (private sector) is beyond me. Then why has Walker taken that power for himself, much like a good little ALEC representative? |
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| Soup4Bonnie
Wook: How anyone can think that putting state employee unions (private sector funded) above its citizens (private sector) is beyond me. What? |
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| sethstorm
TimonC346: So basically in Wisconsin you should only be entitled to healthcare if it is an emergency or of you are rich? No. You don't need a healthcare insurance card anymore, just an ALEC membership card. |
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| jigger
fringedmyotis: Virulency: Well spend a billion dollars on something that doesnt work just because we can... Persistent yes efficient or smart no.... Whatever we've been doing up till now certainly doesn't work, that's for sure. A lot of data that goes into those stats are not uniformly counted. For instance, in the US infant mortality counts all baby deaths including stillborns, premies, etc. Most countries do not count it like this. Link |
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| YoungSwedishBlonde
Wook: machoprogrammer: Wook: God Bless Scott Walker!!! I see a ton of those bumper stickers and lawn signs on the drive up to and in the Fox Cities. How anyone can think the governor selling state assets to his corporate overlords and disbanding unions is a good thing is beyond me. His cajones and policies would actually fix the problems plaguing CA. How anyone can think that putting state employee unions (private sector funded) above its citizens (private sector) is beyond me. Hence why he exempted police and firefighters unions, you know, because those aren't state employee unions... |
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| sethstorm
Imperialism: Ken VeryBigLiar: Imperialism: How is that possible? Isn't the point of the whole thing that people have to buy insurance? One talking is point is that there doesn't seem to be anything stopping businesses from getting downright terrible (for coverage or price) plans to offer their employees. Employees say "Aw, Hell Naw!" and have to go to the exchanges, not their employer, for coverage. Scott Walker would be in favor of tighter regulations on that, right? He's OK with tighter regulations on anyone that isn't a businessperson or kowtows to business - by virtue of his regulations that he has enacted and the debts Walker created. |
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| Rapmaster2000
And this will happen again... |
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| sethstorm
YoungSwedishBlonde: Hence why he exempted police and firefighters unions, you know, because those aren't state employee unions... Walker didn't want it to blow up in his face like it did in Ohio. Had Walker tried to shove a consistent bill, he'd have to make the same sheepish apology for trying the bill. Thankfully for my home state, Kasich had the arrogance to try. The result was a repealed bill, a governor stripped of his ALEC mandate to reign, and a state that has prospered in ways that Walker couldn't ever imagine. |
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| Ken VeryBigLiar
Graffito: Why don't employers do that now? I would think the same reasons the employers subsidized health insurance now would apply in the future. Not when you could be staring at about a 30% rate hike (the max you can ask for from the state in a year) from providers. /Not reporting fact, just what I've read on the "other side". |
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| Raoul Eaton
In all fairness, all those things happened in Massachusetts after Romneycare was enacted. Right? |
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| GameSprocket
TrollingForColumbine: Teufelaffe: You know, I've been meaning to get rid of my left foot for a while now. Do I have to move to Wisconsin for it to happen, or can I just visit? Just mail it back to netflicks. Got here late an nobody had responded. This was a good one. It took me a second to get it. |
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| sethstorm
Weaver95: it's ok - just sell off more state assets to your corporate buddies and its all good. That's the real debt for accepting the help of ALEC - you have to sell off state assets - for any of the 2010 governors. The "insolvency" to get the union restriction bill is the fake one. |
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| Ken VeryBigLiar
YoungSwedishBlonde: Hence why he exempted police and firefighters unions, you know, because those aren't state employee unions... Ahh, bullshiat Link /AFSCME also represents or represented some PD's. |
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| Gyrfalcon TimonC346: So basically in Wisconsin you should only be entitled to healthcare if it is an emergency or of you are rich? Only if you're rich AND have an emergency. Everyone else can just pull their bootstraps if they want to live. |
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| quatchi
HotWingConspiracy: quatchi: Walker failed to mention what Gruber said was a key finding of his report; the fact that 340,000 uninsured Wisconsinites would gain coverage. Not sure whether to feel sorry for people living in Wisconsin nowadays or just say "Hey, you had your chance, suck it". Depends a lot on my current state of caffeination. [diehardgruber] Thought his name was Bill Clay. |
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| Ken VeryBigLiar
Gyrfalcon: TimonC346: So basically in Wisconsin you should only be entitled to healthcare if it is an emergency or of you are rich? Only if you're rich AND have an emergency. Everyone else can just pull their bootstraps if they want to live. No silly, just dial 912. |
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| jigger
Raoul Eaton: In all fairness, all those things happened in Massachusetts after Romneycare was enacted. Right? Well, MA had the highest insurance premiums in the country before Romneycare and they still have the highest. ![]() The graph looks the same for all years since, except the average has gone up. Was the MA law called "Affordable Care"? If not, maybe that was the problem. Also: ![]() Damn, MA, you spend a lot on "health care". |
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| eagles95 as a person living in Wisconsin, anything this guy does the next 2 yrs i'm fine with. We voted him in twice, so we should face the consequences of our actions. And if that means some poor hillbillies from anywhere outside the few main cities in our state hack off a limb in a tractor, or grandpa cant afford medicine, so f'n be it. I hope this gets the state democratic party off their fat ass and get us a person we can rally behind. Russ isn't coming out of retirement so get the hell over it |
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| TrollingForColumbine GameSprocket: TrollingForColumbine: Teufelaffe: You know, I've been meaning to get rid of my left foot for a while now. Do I have to move to Wisconsin for it to happen, or can I just visit? Just mail it back to netflicks. Got here late an nobody had responded. This was a good one. It took me a second to get it. I think most people here are on my lawn. |
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| fringedmyotis
jigger: A lot of data that goes into those stats are not uniformly counted. For instance, in the US infant mortality counts all baby deaths including stillborns, premies, etc. Most countries do not count it like this. Link Fair enough r/e infant mortality, although the link provided does not provide an amended ranking based on harmozined statisticals - just says the US would rank better than it does. Kind of weak to say something would have 'x' impact and then not provide 'x'. Or did I miss a link to new rankings? The original link is to a composite study based on several variables? Where are the challenges to the rest? Again, sorry if I'm just going data blind & can't see it... |
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