Cool for the first 3 minutes or so, absolute lunacy thereafter.

Well, we know the spiraling blue light over Norway was a missile launched from Russia that had a guidance failure in-flight, so that was definitely aliens apparently.

I am quite sure that there are many flying objects in the sky that are meant to be unidentifiable to people on the ground not meant to identify them.

Mega_Doof: Well, we know the spiraling blue light over Norway was a missile launched from Russia that had a guidance failure in-flight, so that was definitely aliens apparently.

I am quite sure that there are many flying objects in the sky that are meant to be unidentifiable to people on the ground not meant to identify them.

The Jerusalem one with the light over the temple and the art bell caller are known hoaxes as well.

Someone doesn't understand the atmospheric optics of rocket launches and debris re-entry, especially when they are high enough to be still lit by the sun while the observers on the ground are in darkness.

Mega_Doof: Well, we know the spiraling blue light over Norway was a missile launched from Russia that had a guidance failure in-flight, so that was definitely aliens apparently.

I am quite sure that there are many flying objects in the sky that are meant to be unidentifiable to people on the ground not meant to identify them.

That's what they want you to think. I mean, how do we actually know it was a missile? Were we they when they 'fired' it? No. Unless you fired that missile personally or know the person that did, it was aliens.

Incidentally, when did UFO come to mean aliens exclusively? If something is in the sky and you can't identify it, it is by definition a UFO. But no, now UFO means OH NOES ALIENS!

Just because you don't know what it is doesn't mean that there aren't a whole shiatload of people that do.

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TexasPeace: Cool for the first 3 minutes or so, absolute lunacy thereafter.

That is the proper thought pattern. Move along citizen. You will make a good pet or meal.

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Dear Moderators: There's no reason to put up with the crappiness of LiveLeak when the video is embedded from YouTube anyway:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLU0L hXY8FY

Signed, People With Eyes

I've been spending a little bit of time over at liveleak lately, and I have to say that place is filled with some weapons grade retards. It's like the politics tab made their own separate website.

When I first saw that spiraling thing in the news, I was really hoping it was some cool natural phenomenon that hadn't occurred in a few thousand years or something, something fun to shake up the scientific community. Disappointed when it turned out the be a rocket failure.

After seeing all of this, I think I am going to get some of those chinese lanterns(which made up probably half of those clips) and let them go around here, be fun to get it on the news...

let's never underestimate the video creators' inability to both focus and hold the damn camera steady.

Also, lens flare

I was going to say some rude things, about how most of these have already been explained and most of the rest are too vague to comment on (e.g., could seriously be a streetlamp), until I realised that "MOXNEWS" = "mocks news." It's a good jape. Farkers, more than most people, should appreciate it.

On the broader question of ETs, I think that there's at least a couple things going on, the first of which is much more obvious than the second:

1) Humans in general are very curious and imaginative, but not nearly as smart as we think we are. It's no coincidence that dog is man's best friend: we're a lot like them. Watch a dog for awhile, and you'll gradually realise that people aren't a whole lot brighter. Sure, we can play some fun tricks on them that freak them out because we're literally smarter, in a strictly relative sense. We know that the doorbell is not an intentional agent. But we have our own doorbells that we jump at, and we're not much better about how we deal with them. As with dogs, our main weakness isn't this limitation in itself, as much as it our unawareness that we have it, or our refusal to accept it on the rare occasions that we do become vaguely aware of it for a fleeting moment. As every single article at You Are Not So Smart explains, our many psychological weaknesses are mitigated by our conscious awareness of them -- it's the fact that we're not aware of them that they plague us as much as they do.

2) Self-aware or not, people don't have any good idea of how big space is, or how remote absolutely everything in it is. I think a lot of people imagine Earth to be like a very small town in a remote corner of a large, mostly empty continent. It's much more realistic to imagine the relative scale as, say, a small protein packet in a remote corner of the Solar System -- and even that's probably an exaggeration. ETs aren't going to just randomly stumble upon us, nor are they likely to find us through active searching: space is just too goddamn big.

Even the most savvy people are mostly assessing all this on the basis of the Drake Equation, but we now have good reason to believe that Drake was far more optimistic than we have reason to be. It's now apparent that while simple life is probably common, complex life forms are probably very rare, maybe extremely rare. The odds are very poor even not taking account the vastness of space. Statistically, the odds of any two sentient races from different worlds ever making contact approach zero. Put another way, the odds of anything weird in the sky being of intelligent extraterrestrial origin are so about as likely as Jesus returning on a da-glo surfboard powered by unicorn tears with Katy Perry by his side and announcing that Jim Jones was right all along. It's not literally impossible, but you'd have to be pretty stupid to expect you might ever see it.

TexasPeace: Cool for the first 3 minutes or so, absolute lunacy thereafter.

I finally had to bail on it at the 6 minute mark during the "epic" montage. Many of them were clearly rocket launches or objects reentering the atmosphere. And when your footage starts off with hoaxes and things that were debunked a year ago that calls any other footage into question. It means whoever made this is 1) either an ignorant moron with no internet connection or 2) is adding things to the video that they know full well aren't UFO's and just being dishonest.

cfreak: The Jerusalem one with the light over the temple and the art bell caller are known hoaxes as well.

What's scarier is that Fox News apparently reported on that even though it was an obvious fake. And when I say obvious I mean: incredible video footage over a major city + no witnesses. "It's difficult for [critics] to dismiss this." NO. NO IT ISN'T. It's video footage over a city. You have a simple way to debunk the footage handed to you on a silver platter. Other than happening over a major American city, it just doesn't get any easier for you than that.

I don't know what's worse, the complete lack of journalism or the "The questions is... you know, 'Is He back?'" "Yeah, and that is the question by the way, Megan..." Really, Fox News? You not only actually considered an obviously fake video to possibly be the Second Coming of Christ but you also admitted that on the air. Someone please tell me this is fake and just some fancy editing.

/The circular clouds and the Norway Spiral are still effin' cool.
//Yes, I add apostrophes after abbreviations and acronyms for clarity. Yes, it's technically incorrect. The English languages is ever changing. You keep holding on to that outdated grammar while I'll move on and adapt.

I'm not going to be too shook up about lights in the sky until one of them lands and gives interviews.

I take all this stuff with a grain of salt, but it is fun.

Yeah, right, it's a "rocket launch failure" or some sort of other "easily explainable phenomena". Let's listen to the MSM, because they always tell the truth! More often than not, mainstream news outlets hide the truth, because the truth is too ugly for people to accept. They are the puppet-masters and you don't even realize that they're pulling your strings. They spew bullshiat and you lick it up. Sure, SOME of those incidents are man made. Only a fool would believe otherwise. But there is some activity that I can't talk too much about now, but you'll soon see. When it gets revealed, there will be massive societal upheavals. Many will riot violently in the streets. Others will turn to GOD for solace. But all will be awestruck by a display of power and technology so advanced, we as humans aren't even equipped to IMAGINE what it is. By the end of October this year, it will be revealed.

cfreak: The Jerusalem one with the light over the temple and the art bell caller are known hoaxes as well.

But, that was on that Tool album... how could it be fake?

Maynard knows more than we do!!

Atomic Spunk: Yeah, right, it's a "rocket launch failure" or some sort of other "easily explainable phenomena". Let's listen to the MSM, because they always tell the truth! More often than not, mainstream news outlets hide the truth, because the truth is too ugly for people to accept. They are the puppet-masters and you don't even realize that they're pulling your strings. They spew bullshiat and you lick it up. Sure, SOME of those incidents are man made. Only a fool would believe otherwise. But there is some activity that I can't talk too much about now, but you'll soon see. When it gets revealed, there will be massive societal upheavals. Many will riot violently in the streets. Others will turn to GOD for solace. But all will be awestruck by a display of power and technology so advanced, we as humans aren't even equipped to IMAGINE what it is. By the end of October this year, it will be revealed.



But Seriously the 1st one I'm not sure about but the rest were definitely reentries, rocket launches, natural atmospheric phenomena, or straight hoaxes. The one in china where that idiot Fox News lady was flipping out was obviously a rocket launch and you can easily make out the second stage ignition.

//Back off man I'm a scientist Space Professional

Should be required read for all high school students.

Forget whether it's aliens or not.

Ask whether it makes any difference to anything. They don't. They just give us stupid light shows in the sky. They are pointless. Just a level above Bigfoot sightings.

How long after your common sense is declared overdue can we expect a rescue?

I wish for once when someone made one of these videos they'd use yackety sax music.

LawrencePerson: Dear Moderators: There's no reason to put up with the crappiness of LiveLeak when the video is embedded from YouTube anyway:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLU0Lh XY8FY

Signed, People With Eyes

They just green light the submissions. Go after subby for that.

Marshmallow Jones: When I first saw that spiraling thing in the news, I was really hoping it was some cool natural phenomenon that hadn't occurred in a few thousand years or something, something fun to shake up the scientific community. Disappointed when it turned out the be a rocket failure.

After seeing all of this, I think I am going to get some of those chinese lanterns(which made up probably half of those clips) and let them go around here, be fun to get it on the news...

Not a good idea with 2/3 of the country suffering severe drought.

weapon13: Were we they when they 'fired' it?

I was me. Were you yourself? I don't remember firing anything...

mrmyxolodian: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 269x400]

Should be required read for all high school students.

Weird - that's the 2nd time I've seen that referenced today and I've never read it.

The first time was reading something about crop circles where some crazy lady was saying she wasn't saying it was aliens, but it's definitely something intelligent trying to tell us something and it's not us. Screw science, they're trying to tell us something with these crop circles, isn't it amazing?

If you like science, or if you like books that use simple logic to debunk commonly held superstitions and fantastical beliefs, or if you just like Carl Sagan, I highly recommend it.

Happy Hours: mrmyxolodian: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 269x400]

Should be required read for all high school students.

Weird - that's the 2nd time I've seen that referenced today and I've never read it.

The first time was reading something about crop circles where some crazy lady was saying she wasn't saying it was aliens, but it's definitely something intelligent trying to tell us something and it's not us. Screw science, they're trying to tell us something with these crop circles, isn't it amazing?

Meant to include you on the post above.

Why is it that these UFO's will fly in... Lights ablaze... as if to want to shout out, "look, here I am, follow me to where I'm going to land" and then the moment they touch down they switch on their cloaking device, so you can't see them...

Marshmallow Jones: After seeing all of this, I think I am going to get some of those chinese lanterns(which made up probably half of those clips) and let them go around here, be fun to get it on the news...

I saw someone launch a chinese lantern a few blocks away last night, but since I didn't see who actually launched it so I can only assume aliens.

Unidentified flying objects, the small percentage that are not explained are very real and not figments of imagination. Most however are misidentified rocket launches or other phenomena.
UFOs ≠ aliens however. The good reports are genuinely unexplained phenomena of which the ETH (extra terrestrial hypothesis) is just *one* of the theories.

TexasPeace: Cool for the first 3 minutes or so, absolute lunacy thereafter.

The first 3 minutes were long exposure pics of choppers, that's been called.

That whole thing was old news

Let me guess,

Chinese lanterns? Failed rocket launches? Those Parachute team videos? Weird clouds? Dome of the Rock?

check, check, check, checkity check! with an added bonus of that fake caller to Art Bell.

The Art Bell call at the end is interesting, not because of the call itself (which was later revealed by the caller), but because the transmitter's power was cut somewhere in the middle of the conversation.

Coincidences happen and power sometimes goes out, but the timing just seems very suspicious.