IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T: I didn't even get into the 90's team which was known for drugs and hookers in excess. ;)

Yeeeeeeeah but here's the thing, see.... that was 20 years ago. While I would never try to excuse their poor behavior, that was 20 years ago. Know what I mean? If that issue were a zygote when it happened, it'd be registering to vote by now. I mean REALLY.


IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T: //Are you going to a game this season?
///I'll be at the Bears vs. cowboys in Week 4

I don't know yet. I certainly hope so. Right now my focus is on getting to a Rangers game. My friend that used to get us sweet tickets is moving to stupid San Antonio in about a month. Just one more reason to hate SA. Hmph.


IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T: The Cowboys got Murray back. That's good. He's not known for being durable. That's bad. But they updated their secondary. That's good. But Jerry is still in charge of the team. That's bad.

Yes. All of this.

IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T: /Can I go now?

Di Atribe: Yeeeeeeeah but here's the thing, see.... that was 20 years ago. While I would never try to excuse their poor behavior, that was 20 years ago. Know what I mean? If that issue were a zygote when it happened, it'd be registering to vote by now. I mean REALLY.

Modern bad behavior inevitably brings up visions of past bad behavior. I'm not saying it's fair, I'm just calling it like it is.

I don't know yet. I certainly hope so. Right now my focus is on getting to a Rangers game. My friend that used to get us sweet tickets is moving to stupid San Antonio in about a month. Just one more reason to hate SA. Hmph.

I'm hoping for free tix again but I'll probably have to pony up the money for that game. Shiat, I think I have some vouchers for Rangers tickets (or discounted or something) that I'm not going to use (God hates me going to any Rangers' games, it's a fact) but I wouldn't call them "sweet."


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Slow To Return: I think the point is that the NFL is full of deplorable human beings and no team is deplorable-human-being-free. And there was something in there about condemning the Cowboys for having a few deplorable human beings in their history.

I agree, I don't care if players get in trouble (depending on the trouble, certain crimes are unforgivable) I just care if they play well. People who expect athletes to be flawless is insane.

As for the Cowboys, I think they've been pretty under the radar when it comes to the law compared to most teams, though Dez is the one guy on the team that has problems. Being a fan, I DO remember the 90s Cowboys having a reputation (like the Bengals do now) of being full of criminals, so I assume the subby is referencing that. Outdated but I get it.

But yeah, GO COWBOYS!

/Thank God the Olympics is this year, I'm finally starting to fiend for the football season.

Di Atribe: wakizashi: Sounds like a case of Boys will be Boys lol. Case dismissed.

Nobody let him off the hook for that. What the hell are you even talking about?


So, Jerry Jones didn't pay McIvar a reported $700,000.00 to not press charges to keep Irvin out of jail for violating his parole? Sounds like someone got off the hook pretty clean don't you think. Not to mention he is on television and in the Hall of Fame, both travesties in my opinion.

Pretty sweet deal for someone convicted of felony cocaine possession as well as numerous charges for assault, harassment, amongst numerous other things. Pret-ty sweet indeed.

IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T: Modern bad behavior inevitably brings up visions of past bad behavior. I'm not saying it's fair, I'm just calling it like it is.

It's absolutely not fair, which is exactly why I'll call anyone on it (even people i LIKE like YOU)

IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T: Shiat, I think I have some vouchers for Rangers tickets (or discounted or something) that I'm not going to use (God hates me going to any Rangers' games, it's a fact) but I wouldn't call them "sweet."

Well if you need somewhere to unload those just.... EIP you know, I might know someone.


wakizashi: So, Jerry Jones didn't pay McIvar a reported $700,000.00 to not press charges to keep Irvin out of jail for violating his parole?

Fark if I know IT WAS 20 YEARS AGO. I was still in high school and not even paying attention to football. I'm not defending any of it. I'm just saying that it's irrelevant to the story at hand.

AlHarris31: Dez Bryants mom is the only thing a Cowboy is going to beat this season. They will be the worst team in their division.

Care to, uh, make a little wager on that, big al?

Di Atribe: IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T: True enough (not subby), but the Cowboys have had their fair share of lawbreakers, either longterm or just passing through:

Really? So anyone who has ever touched the franchise & was arrested, even if they played for another team at the time.... should mar the franchise? I want you to know that that is extremely ridiculous and HIGHLY unfair.

Sam Hurd - left the team in 2010, arrested in 2011, while with the Bears
Michael Irvin - left the team in 1999. Here is a legitimate one since he misbehaved while on the team. However, he hasn't played for the Cowboys in 13 years.
Pacman Jones - played for the Cowboys for one year, 2008. Arrested in 2007, while with the Titans
Ryan Leaf - played for the Cowboys for one year, 2001. His legal troubles began in 2009.
Nate Newton - left the team in 1998. Arrested in 2003 for transporting pot.
Rafael Septien - left the team in 1986. Convicted in 1987.
Hollywood Henderson - left the team in 1979 because Coach Landry cut him because of his sorry behavior.
Dwayne Goodrich - 3rd string CB who was immediately cut from the team after being arrested. He was not intoxicated at the time of the accident.
Larry Bethea - left the team in 1983. Trouble with the law began in 1985.
Harvey Martin - also left the team in 1983. Arrested in 1996.
Bob Hayes - left the team in 1974. I can't find what he was arrested for, but I did find a reference to "legal & drug issues," I also learned that he is the only man to win an Olympic Gold Medal and a Super Bowl ring. What an asshole, amirite? How dare the Cowboys employ such a filthy loser.

Read the NFL blotter. I'm not saying the Cowboys are perfect (I doubt any team is), but they're far from the worst. It is an unfair & dishonest criticism to act like they're a team full of felons.

One that everyone has left off:

Lance Rentzl got nabbed waiving his weenie at some school girls in 1970.

Di Atribe: I don't see any reason to indict the entire Cowboys organization, subby esq.

That's not what the DA says!

Di Atribe:


wakizashi: So, Jerry Jones didn't pay McIvar a reported $700,000.00 to not press charges to keep Irvin out of jail for violating his parole?

Fark if I know IT WAS 20 YEARS AGO. I was still in high school and not even paying attention to football. I'm not defending any of it. I'm just saying that it's irrelevant to the story at hand.

Well that explains much. You don't know, or you just are being coy so as not to look ignorant. Michael Irvin is a piece of human garbage. Also, you said he didn't get off the hook, ie defending it. Therefore, learn about football before you speak of it. There's a reason he was cheered in Philly when he was carted off. And its not simply because Philly fans are douches.

wakizashi: Di Atribe:


wakizashi: So, Jerry Jones didn't pay McIvar a reported $700,000.00 to not press charges to keep Irvin out of jail for violating his parole?

Fark if I know IT WAS 20 YEARS AGO. I was still in high school and not even paying attention to football. I'm not defending any of it. I'm just saying that it's irrelevant to the story at hand.

Well that explains much. You don't know, or you just are being coy so as not to look ignorant. Michael Irvin is a piece of human garbage. Also, you said he didn't get off the hook, ie defending it. Therefore, learn about football before you speak of it. There's a reason he was cheered in Philly when he was carted off. And its not simply because Philly fans are douches.

They should have executed him, amiright?

wakizashi: Well that explains much. You don't know, or you just are being coy so as not to look ignorant. Michael Irvin is a piece of human garbage. Also, you said he didn't get off the hook, ie defending it. Therefore, learn about football before you speak of it. There's a reason he was cheered in Philly when he was carted off. And its not simply because Philly fans are douches.

Listen here, bucko. I know my football. I was ADMITTING that I wasn't paying attention to football at the time. I was also SHOWING that it was 20 years ago. I never once defended Irvin or said he was a super guy. That's what "I'm not defending any of it" means. Or do you need help with your reading? Maybe if you move your lips a little and sound out the words nice & slow, it'll help you understand.

At what point do you let it go? He hasn't played for the team for 13 years. I'm not asking you to fall madly, deeply in love with the Cowboys, just be fair. It IS unfair to indict the entire franchise from here to eternity for his sins. In fact, I'd say it's downright absurd.

Also, there's a little quotey button up next to the time stamp that you can use so you don't look like a total farking retard.

wakizashi: And its not simply because Philly fans are douches.

Actually, yes it is. Should I put you down as a Philly fan, then?

Di Atribe: I don't see any reason to indict the entire Cowboys organization, subby esq.

I usually don't defend the Cowboys, but the 90s WERE quite awhile ago, submitter.

Di Atribe: Read the NFL blotter.

Wow. That's refreshingly light on steelers. Not that I wouldn't root for them if they had a zillion thugs because I definitely would.

ColTomParker: AlHarris31: Dez Bryants mom is the only thing a Cowboy is going to beat this season. They will be the worst team in their division.

Care to, uh, make a little wager on that, big al?

Nah, I don't really gamble. I may backtrack a little bit, come to think of it, but I think the Cowboys will have a massively underperforming season, and Garrett will be out the door. They will not make the playoffs.

I think the Skins will show massive improvement, and the Eagles will have a breakout year, and the Giants will have a much better regular season than last year. The Cowboys will be fighting the Redskins for 3rd place in the division. But yeah, the skins are the skins.

muck4doo: wakizashi: Di Atribe:


wakizashi: So, Jerry Jones didn't pay McIvar a reported $700,000.00 to not press charges to keep Irvin out of jail for violating his parole?

Fark if I know IT WAS 20 YEARS AGO. I was still in high school and not even paying attention to football. I'm not defending any of it. I'm just saying that it's irrelevant to the story at hand.

Well that explains much. You don't know, or you just are being coy so as not to look ignorant. Michael Irvin is a piece of human garbage. Also, you said he didn't get off the hook, ie defending it. Therefore, learn about football before you speak of it. There's a reason he was cheered in Philly when he was carted off. And its not simply because Philly fans are douches.

They should have executed him, amiright?

Apparently no punishment is par for the course.

And, to be fair, Dez may end up as one of the greats of the legal system who played in Dallas. It'd be tough to top killing people or having a human being sized amount of weed in the car, but he's trying.

what is up with nfl players, is there some sort of chemical imbalance that occurs between OTA's and minicamp?

/might that imbalance be caused by... love.... or massive amounts of testosterone which is pretty much the same thing.

Di Atribe: wakizashi: Well that explains much. You don't know, or you just are being coy so as not to look ignorant. Michael Irvin is a piece of human garbage. Also, you said he didn't get off the hook, ie defending it. Therefore, learn about football before you speak of it. There's a reason he was cheered in Philly when he was carted off. And its not simply because Philly fans are douches.

Listen here, bucko. I know my football. No you don't I was ADMITTING that I wasn't paying attention to football at the time. I was also SHOWING that it was 20 years ago. I never once defended Irvin or said he was a super guy. Except you said that they didn't let him off the hook implying he was punished and should now be allowed to be a normal person again.That's what "I'm not defending any of it" means. No it doesn't Or do you need help with your reading? I think you might Maybe if you move your lips a little and sound out the words nice & slow, it'll help you understand.

At what point do you let it go? How about once he pays for his crimes? He hasn't played for the team for 13 years. I'm not asking you to fall madly, deeply in love with the Cowboys, just be fair. Fair as in tried by a jury of 12 men?It IS unfair to indict the entire franchise from here to eternity for his sins. Except when the OWNER is the one financing these crimes and supporting them In fact, I'd say it's downright absurd.

Also, there's a little quotey button up next to the time stamp that you can use so you don't look like a total farking retard.
Seems I quoted well enough for you to understand, and thats all that matters.
wakizashi: And its not simply because Philly fans are douches.

Actually, yes it is. Should I put you down as a Philly fan, then?

I'm no Philly fan. And now you are indicting the entire Philly fanbase on one incident. That's not fair waaaaah!

Di Atribe: Sam Hurd - left the team in 2010, arrested in 2011, while with the Bears

I don't disagree with your point at all, but the investigation into Hurd started when he was still with the Cowboys. He continued his criminal streak when he was with my team, but he wasn't innocent when he was on yours.

wakizashi: I'm no Philly fan. And now you are indicting the entire Philly fanbase on one incident. That's not fair waaaaah!

they also booed and threw batteries at santa

Di Atribe: IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T: I didn't even get into the 90's team which was known for drugs and hookers in excess. ;)

Yeeeeeeeah but here's the thing, see.... that was 20 years ago. While I would never try to excuse their poor behavior, that was 20 years ago. Know what I mean? If that issue were a zygote when it happened, it'd be registering to vote by now. I mean REALLY.


Hey, the Raiders still get shiat on for Ben Davidson and Jack Tatum and Lyle Alzado. If a few assholes tar your team for 30 or 40 years, why should the Cowboys get a pass?

Relevant

Most arrested teams in the NFL



As you may notice, Dallas is pretty far down the list with 11 arrests since 2000. Minnesota has 36 since 2000.

His mom is a criminal, biatch probably had it coming.

illusi0n: Relevant

Most arrested teams in the NFL

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As you may notice, Dallas is pretty far down the list with 11 arrests since 2000. Minnesota has 36 since 2000.

I'd be interested to see what this chart looks like for just homicides.

Cuz, you know, a homicide ain't the same as unpaid parking tickets.

He's in his 20's and I believe mom is 37? Does that sound about right?

Also, mom is a crack head. Yes, he sure acts like a piece of crap, but he certainly didn't have much to build on. The best thing he could do is find some kind of positive influence and get the hell away from his mother forever.

illusi0n: Relevant

Most arrested teams in the NFL



As you may notice, Dallas is pretty far down the list with 11 arrests since 2000. Minnesota has 36 since 2000.

Going back to 2000 seems like a stretch for reflecting who a team is now. Lots of management turnover happens in over a decade.

wakizashi: muck4doo: wakizashi: Di Atribe:


wakizashi: So, Jerry Jones didn't pay McIvar a reported $700,000.00 to not press charges to keep Irvin out of jail for violating his parole?

Fark if I know IT WAS 20 YEARS AGO. I was still in high school and not even paying attention to football. I'm not defending any of it. I'm just saying that it's irrelevant to the story at hand.

Well that explains much. You don't know, or you just are being coy so as not to look ignorant. Michael Irvin is a piece of human garbage. Also, you said he didn't get off the hook, ie defending it. Therefore, learn about football before you speak of it. There's a reason he was cheered in Philly when he was carted off. And its not simply because Philly fans are douches.

They should have executed him, amiright?

Apparently no punishment is par for the course.

Go cry some more.

farbekrieg: what is up with nfl players, is there some sort of chemical imbalance that occurs between OTA's and minicamp?

/might that imbalance be caused by... love.... or massive amounts of testosterone which is pretty much the same thing.

They pretty much treat it like soldiers about to be deployed. The last chance to cut loose while your brain and spine are still intact. It's totally understandable that they have the urge to do it but they should get drivers and security to avoid dui and frakases. And for the love of god just beat up whores that will gladly take a couple shots for a couple grand and not former whores who happen to be your mother.

davidphogan: illusi0n: Relevant

Most arrested teams in the NFL



As you may notice, Dallas is pretty far down the list with 11 arrests since 2000. Minnesota has 36 since 2000.

Going back to 2000 seems like a stretch for reflecting who a team is now. Lots of management turnover happens in over a decade.

Yeah, is anyone in the Vikings organization left over from the Lake Minnetonka Experience?

And Detroit is tied for last over the last 12 years? No wonder they're making up for lost time.

muck4doo: wakizashi: muck4doo: wakizashi: Di Atribe:


wakizashi: So, Jerry Jones didn't pay McIvar a reported $700,000.00 to not press charges to keep Irvin out of jail for violating his parole?

Fark if I know IT WAS 20 YEARS AGO. I was still in high school and not even paying attention to football. I'm not defending any of it. I'm just saying that it's irrelevant to the story at hand.

Well that explains much. You don't know, or you just are being coy so as not to look ignorant. Michael Irvin is a piece of human garbage. Also, you said he didn't get off the hook, ie defending it. Therefore, learn about football before you speak of it. There's a reason he was cheered in Philly when he was carted off. And its not simply because Philly fans are douches.

They should have executed him, amiright?

Apparently no punishment is par for the course.

Go cry some more.

You mean like Keith Brooking?

http://youtu.be/2I5Z7M4UgqA

Everything is bigger in Texas. Including the Cowboys criminal records.

Mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be Cowboys.
Don't let 'em wear silver or ugly blue stars,
Let 'em be Redskins and Niners and Cards.

IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T: I didn't even get into the 90's team which was known for drugs and hookers in excess. ;)

What the fark do you have against drugs and hookers in excess? You must be a BLAST at parties.

\I keed, of course.
\\Seriously, though, leave drugs and hookers alooooooooooooone.

Endorsement opportunities abound..

Knew it was Bryant before clicking on the link.

Di Atribe: It's an antiquated "law" that was done away with long ago. It's where we get the phrase "rule of thumb" from.

Yeaahhhh, no.

The same expression exists in Finland, except it is rule of fist. Damn, those Fins can beat their wife with the whole tree. And in Norway, the have the same expression except it is "fingertip". Those Norwegian pussies.

Please don't regurgitate idiocy.

Rule of thumb is about archery limits. If you can cover up the enemy soldier with your thumb at arms length, then you can't get an arrow there.

Oh great ..now we have to hear even more about the Cowboys now...

Di Atribe: IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T: True enough (not subby), but the Cowboys have had their fair share of lawbreakers, either longterm or just passing through:

Really? So anyone who has ever touched the franchise & was arrested, even if they played for another team at the time.... should mar the franchise? I want you to know that that is extremely ridiculous and HIGHLY unfair.

Sam Hurd - left the team in 2010, arrested in 2011, while with the Bears
Michael Irvin - left the team in 1999. Here is a legitimate one since he misbehaved while on the team. However, he hasn't played for the Cowboys in 13 years.
Pacman Jones - played for the Cowboys for one year, 2008. Arrested in 2007, while with the Titans
Ryan Leaf - played for the Cowboys for one year, 2001. His legal troubles began in 2009.
Nate Newton - left the team in 1998. Arrested in 2003 for transporting pot.
Rafael Septien - left the team in 1986. Convicted in 1987.
Hollywood Henderson - left the team in 1979 because Coach Landry cut him because of his sorry behavior.
Dwayne Goodrich - 3rd string CB who was immediately cut from the team after being arrested. He was not intoxicated at the time of the accident.
Larry Bethea - left the team in 1983. Trouble with the law began in 1985.
Harvey Martin - also left the team in 1983. Arrested in 1996.
Bob Hayes - left the team in 1974. I can't find what he was arrested for, but I did find a reference to "legal & drug issues," I also learned that he is the only man to win an Olympic Gold Medal and a Super Bowl ring. What an asshole, amirite? How dare the Cowboys employ such a filthy loser.

Read the NFL blotter. I'm not saying the Cowboys are perfect (I doubt any team is), but they're far from the worst. It is an unfair & dishonest criticism to act like they're a team full of felons.


this is why i defer to you on anything cowboys, Di...

I remember "bullet bob" well. he changed the mindset of the league, as pertaining to speed and catching the ball.

SevenizGud: Yeaahhhh, no.

If you'd like to educate people on things such as this, my advice to you would be to be much less condescending about it.


stir22: this is why i defer to you on anything cowboys, Di...

I remember "bullet bob" well. he changed the mindset of the league, as pertaining to speed and catching the ball.

Why thank you, my little stirstick! I don't remember Bob Hayes, since I wasn't even born when he left the team. But every "old-timer" Cowboys fan I know is just starry-eyed over him.

The 911 tapes from this circus are out now. The only thing clear from them is that the world would be a better place if a bomb fell on that picnic. You can literally feel the 911 operator wishing for everyone present to just fall dead and not bother him again.

I'd like to hear all of this woman's crazy azz 911 calls she's made her whole life. I'd rather side with the child than the crazy crackhead mother.

GET YOUR STUPID farkING REDDIT RAGE FACES OUT OF FARK!