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| ruleux
Looks like the same sound stage as the "Lunar Landings". Gotta call BS on this one. |
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Smeggy Smurf
![]() Earth shattering KABOOOM or GTFO |
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| redsquid Thanks subby- cool find! I'm an atomic testing nut and that one's new to me. My favorite is the Buster-Jangle test where they surrounded ground zero with trenches, equipment, and soldiers. After the initial blast and shockwave the soldiers stand up, climb out of the trenches, and start walking towards the still growing mushroom cloud. Lucky bastards! I wish I could witness an atmospheric shot. Science is awesome! |
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| Quasar I hope they at least performed the fully safety procedure of ducking under a small desk with their hands over their necks. |
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| Whatthefark
They didn't have tanning beds in the 50's How else are you supposed to get a quick, all-over tan? |
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| Theaetetus All five of those men are dead now... Coincidence? I think not. |
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| Grapple FTA: Two colonels, two majors and a fifth officer agreed stand right below the blast. Only the cameraman, George Yoshiatake, didn't volunteer. 1957 and they made (*made*) a Japanese man film it? farkers. |
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| zerkalo
I suspect the Japanese-American dude was contractually obligated to operate the camera, or was enlisted personnel |
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| HellRaisingHoosier
Grapple: FTA: Two colonels, two majors and a fifth officer agreed stand right below the blast. Only the cameraman, George Yoshiatake, didn't volunteer. 1957 and they made (*made*) a Japanese man film it? farkers. You think that's bad? They made Joshua Steinwitz clean all the ovens in the Mess Hall. |
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| redsquid zerkalo: I suspect the Japanese-American dude was contractually obligated to operate the camera, or was enlisted personnel He was probably from Lookout Mountain. They made some great films. |
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| whither_apophis Nuclear testing trifecta in play? /Crossroads Bravo FTW //stood the USS Arkansas up on its end |
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| weapon13
Quasar: I hope they at least performed the fully safety procedure of ducking under a small desk with their hands over their necks. I thought safety procedure was to jump into a fridge and close the lid? |
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| RoxtarRyan
Awesome... with little to no chance of fallout (no ground particles to ionize, hence the military's choice of an altitude detonation rather than surface detonation), I am kinda shocked the EMP didn't knock out their recording devices at such a close proximity. Still would've covered mah junk, though. |
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| basemetal I'd like to see if any of those men ever developed any kind of cancers. |
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| danielscissorhands
"Whoa, that's a full rainbow all the way. Double rainbow, oh my god. It's a double rainbow, all the way. Whoa that's so intense. Whoa man! Wow! Whoa! Whoa! Whoa ho ho oh my god! Oh my god! Oh my god! Woo! Oh wow! Woo! Yeah! Oh ho ho! Oh my god! Oh my god look at that! It's starting even to look like a triple rainbow! Oh my god it's full on! Double rainbow all the way across the sky! Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh god. What does this mean? Oh. Oh my god. Oh. Oh. God. It's so bright, oh my god it's so bright and vivid! Oh. Ah! Ah! It's so beautiful! [Crying? Laughing?] [Pretty sure he's crying.] [Now he's laughing and crying.] Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god! Oh my god, it's a double complete rainbow! Oh right in my front yard. [Laughter] Oh my god. Oh my god, what does it mean? Tell me. [Crying] Too much. I don't know what it means. [Laughter] [Heavy breathing] Oh my god it's so intense. Oh. Oh. Oh my god." |
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| Brick-House
SPF 5000??? |
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| Deranged Mutant Killer Monster Snow Goon
One of those planes is clearly a B-57 (or some variant.) |
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| Nuclear Monk
It's impressive, but still not selling the whole "airborne low yield nuclear battles are fun AND safe!" thing. |
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| KidneyStone
Deranged Mutant Killer Monster Snow Goon: One of those planes is clearly a B-57 (or some variant.) But the article clearly states two F89 jets. /Yeah, I thought the same thing basemetal: I'd like to see if any of those men ever developed any kind of cancers. Several, according to the photographer...when he was 82. Link |
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| salvador.hardin
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| talkertopc
Anyone know the minimum safe distance an aicraft and pilot would have to be from the blast to survive the blast itself, the shockwave, the radiation and the E.M.P.? |
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| kyleaugustus I'd love to have a view like that. |
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| Cerebral Knievel redsquid: zerkalo: I suspect the Japanese-American dude was contractually obligated to operate the camera, or was enlisted personnel He was probably from Lookout Mountain. They made some great films. it absolutely WAS from lookout mountain and I first saw it in the Doc "Hollywood secret film studio" part of the trinity and beyond series of Docs about the Americas atomic weapons program |
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| Cerebral Knievel RoxtarRyan: Awesome... with little to no chance of fallout (no ground particles to ionize, hence the military's choice of an altitude detonation rather than surface detonation), I am kinda shocked the EMP didn't knock out their recording devices at such a close proximity. Still would've covered mah junk, though. mechanical film cameras aren't usually effected by EMP burst as a general rule. |
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| Smagma
ruleux: Looks like the same sound stage as the "Lunar Landings". Gotta call BS on this one. -.- can't tell if serious.. |
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| RoxtarRyan
Cerebral Knievel: RoxtarRyan: Awesome... with little to no chance of fallout (no ground particles to ionize, hence the military's choice of an altitude detonation rather than surface detonation), I am kinda shocked the EMP didn't knock out their recording devices at such a close proximity. Still would've covered mah junk, though. mechanical film cameras aren't usually effected by EMP burst as a general rule. Mechanical parts, no, but whatever powers them, including internal digital components (circuits, resistors, etc) shouldn't have survived. Unless they were using a strictly hand-cranked camera, and their audio recording devices were mechanical as well with all analog parts... I don't think the military was big into EMP hardening as they have been since. I'm not too knowledgable of audio/video recording devices from that long ago. |
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| kmaywfec
kyleaugustus: I'd love to have a view like that. Oh sure, it's all fun and games until the chemo begins. |
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| Cerebral Knievel RoxtarRyan: Cerebral Knievel: RoxtarRyan: Awesome... with little to no chance of fallout (no ground particles to ionize, hence the military's choice of an altitude detonation rather than surface detonation), I am kinda shocked the EMP didn't knock out their recording devices at such a close proximity. Still would've covered mah junk, though. mechanical film cameras aren't usually effected by EMP burst as a general rule. Mechanical parts, no, but whatever powers them, including internal digital components (circuits, resistors, etc) shouldn't have survived. Unless they were using a strictly hand-cranked camera, and their audio recording devices were mechanical as well with all analog parts... I don't think the military was big into EMP hardening as they have been since. I'm not too knowledgable of audio/video recording devices from that long ago. It was these folks jobs to record and document the blasts. All the recording equipment was suitably hard. one of the cameras often used were old surplus gun cameras. the kind that would expose footage when ever a fighter pilot would pull the trigger. They were very durable cameras that ran off a wound spring also keep in mind that the electronic components of such devices at the time actually were not that suseptable to EMP as say more modern integrated circuitry. it might blow out a electrical sub station like it did in Hawaii when they were shooting stuff off from Johnston atoll, but general electronic items were largely unaffected. in fact, it was that upper atmospheric test that clued the military and the researches off to the dangers of EMP. It knocked out and crippled several of the few satellites we had up at the time and plunged Hawaii into darkness. But generally, the biggest evidence of EMP up to that point was static on the AM radio's. not the radios themselves being fried.EMP doesn't generally destroy switches, relays and tubes like they do transistors and the like. that's all a bunch of soft science general explanation, I'm sure there are some Farkexperts out there that would love to expound on the topic. |
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| RoxtarRyan
Cerebral Knievel: also keep in mind that the electronic components of such devices at the time actually were not that suseptable to EMP as say more modern integrated circuitry. Ah, that's right! Vacuum tube technology, must more resitant to EMPs.Hot damn, been a while since I've thought about that. |
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| Cerebral Knievel RoxtarRyan: Cerebral Knievel: also keep in mind that the electronic components of such devices at the time actually were not that suseptable to EMP as say more modern integrated circuitry. Ah, that's right! Vacuum tube technology, must more resitant to EMPs.Hot damn, been a while since I've thought about that. dig it.. Hollywoods top secret studio tells how they filmed all the blasts. The subject of this thread, including an interview with the Japanese American doing the narration in the original clip is on there telling the story of the event. Nukes in space, the rainbow bombs tells the story of the upper atmosphere testing conducted in the pacific proving grounds and else where. including the story of blacking out Hawaii. |
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| rooftop235
I wonder if the sound at 2:26 is the EMP. Also, I doubt there were tubes used on the recorder. Probably a reel-to-reel. |
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volcs0
![]() not impressed. /hot like a nuclear bomb |
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| Cerebral Knievel rooftop235: I wonder if the sound at 2:26 is the EMP. Also, I doubt there were tubes used on the recorder. Probably a reel-to-reel. I didn't hear anything like that at 2:26, or 1:26, or at the blast itself... there's just general background white noise throughout. and it to have been a reel to reel because the closest thing to a cassette tape didnt come out until 1958, and nothing really commercial until 1962. I would dare say that if there was enough EMP effect where they were, it would've erased the entire tape. |
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| haterade
why is bob barker announcing at the end? |
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| Tumunga
zerkalo: I suspect the Japanese-American dude was contractually obligated to operate the camera, or was enlisted personnel I thought the Japanese were bred to operate cameras. |
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| StoPPeRmobile
Tumunga: zerkalo: I suspect the Japanese-American dude was contractually obligated to operate the camera, or was enlisted personnel I thought the Japanese were bred to operate cameras. [robinwoodphoto.com image 850x566] I thought they were just the first ones to offer an affordable camera for the masses. |
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| The All-Powerful Atheismo
basemetal: I'd like to see if any of those men ever developed any kind of cancers. The cameraman apparently lived (or is still alive?) to a ripe old age of at least 82. His name is George Yoshiatake. He did say that most of his colleagues died of cancer. |
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| The All-Powerful Atheismo
Cerebral Knievel: RoxtarRyan: Cerebral Knievel: RoxtarRyan: Awesome... with little to no chance of fallout (no ground particles to ionize, hence the military's choice of an altitude detonation rather than surface detonation), I am kinda shocked the EMP didn't knock out their recording devices at such a close proximity. Still would've covered mah junk, though. mechanical film cameras aren't usually effected by EMP burst as a general rule. Mechanical parts, no, but whatever powers them, including internal digital components (circuits, resistors, etc) shouldn't have survived. Unless they were using a strictly hand-cranked camera, and their audio recording devices were mechanical as well with all analog parts... I don't think the military was big into EMP hardening as they have been since. I'm not too knowledgable of audio/video recording devices from that long ago. It was these folks jobs to record and document the blasts. All the recording equipment was suitably hard. one of the cameras often used were old surplus gun cameras. the kind that would expose footage when ever a fighter pilot would pull the trigger. They were very durable cameras that ran off a wound spring also keep in mind that the electronic components of such devices at the time actually were not that suseptable to EMP as say more modern integrated circuitry. it might blow out a electrical sub station like it did in Hawaii when they were shooting stuff off from Johnston atoll, but general electronic items were largely unaffected. in fact, it was that upper atmospheric test that clued the military and the researches off to the dangers of EMP. It knocked out and crippled several of the few satellites we had up at the time and plunged Hawaii into darkness. But generally, the biggest evidence of EMP up to that point was static on the AM radio's. not the radios themselves being fried.EMP doesn't generally destroy switches, relays and tubes like they do transistors and the like. that's all a bunch of soft science gener ... EMPs are much stronger with higher altitude blasts. This has to do with the fact that what actually generates the EMP is Compton scattering in the stratosphere, not anything at the explosion altitude itself. A gamma ray burst at a lower altitude is going to dissipate greatly before it reaches the stratosphere. It is also sensitive to weapons size. A 2 kiloton explosion... which is a very small blast, in terms of nuclear weapons... at an altitude of 18,000 feet (about 5 km)... is not going to generate much of an EMP at all. I don't remember enough to calculate the actual strength. |
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| The All-Powerful Atheismo
Also, your mom's ass is a 50 Megaton explosive device |
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| toyotaboy
and that man grew up to be a great actor |
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| indarwinsshadow
That was the "greatest" generation folks. And they were completely f*cking batshiat insane. |
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| Kibbler
This is how I know we're doomed. You have to extrapolate. They decided was safe--cool, even and fun--bring the whole family!--to put living human beings directly under a nuclear blast. Now we know that's insane. So what do we today think is safe--cool, even and fun--bring the whole family!--that is in fact batshiat insane. We'll find out soon enough, I'm sure. |
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| Sylvia_Bandersnatch
indarwinsshadow: That was the "greatest" generation folks. And they were completely f*cking batshiat insane. And yet, still better than we'll ever be, if we had three times their span to attempt it. Putting other people down only belittles you, not them. |
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| lohphat Yeah, trust the military to keep their own safe. Just like the TSA keeps the public safe. |
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| indarwinsshadow
Sylvia_Bandersnatch: indarwinsshadow: That was the "greatest" generation folks. And they were completely f*cking batshiat insane. And yet, still better than we'll ever be, if we had three times their span to attempt it. Putting other people down only belittles you, not them. Nonsense. They did things because and only because. What does that say about their collective intelligence? That generation is the reason the world is so royally f*cked up today. They wasted, polluted, and raped the land all so they could profit without considering the consequences. They were the original "me first" generation. I loathe that generation in all its excesses. The played..we pay. . .. .... Off my lawn grandpa. |
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| Sylvia_Bandersnatch
indarwinsshadow: Sylvia_Bandersnatch: indarwinsshadow: That was the "greatest" generation folks. And they were completely f*cking batshiat insane. And yet, still better than we'll ever be, if we had three times their span to attempt it. Putting other people down only belittles you, not them. Nonsense. They did things because and only because. What does that say about their collective intelligence? That generation is the reason the world is so royally f*cked up today. They wasted, polluted, and raped the land all so they could profit without considering the consequences. They were the original "me first" generation. I loathe that generation in all its excesses. The played..we pay. . .. .... Off my lawn grandpa. They're the reason you're not speaking German, Japanese, Italian, or Russian, you ungrateful, ignorant snot. They're the reason you get to speak your mind without being punished for it. I've been watching you for some time, wondering how someone from Canada, of all places, can be so ignorant and ill-mannered. I've come close to Ignoring you more than a few times, but for some reason still feel the need to at least give you a chance. You're not making a good case for yourself by publicly pissing on the people who, whatever you think of them, gave you a world that's at least free, if not ideal. |
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| The All-Powerful Atheismo
Sylvia_Bandersnatch: indarwinsshadow: Sylvia_Bandersnatch: indarwinsshadow: That was the "greatest" generation folks. And they were completely f*cking batshiat insane. And yet, still better than we'll ever be, if we had three times their span to attempt it. Putting other people down only belittles you, not them. Nonsense. They did things because and only because. What does that say about their collective intelligence? That generation is the reason the world is so royally f*cked up today. They wasted, polluted, and raped the land all so they could profit without considering the consequences. They were the original "me first" generation. I loathe that generation in all its excesses. The played..we pay. . .. .... Off my lawn grandpa. They're the reason you're not speaking German, Japanese, Italian, or Russian, you ungrateful, ignorant snot. They're the reason you get to speak your mind without being punished for it. I've been watching you for some time, wondering how someone from Canada, of all places, can be so ignorant and ill-mannered. I've come close to Ignoring you more than a few times, but for some reason still feel the need to at least give you a chance. You're not making a good case for yourself by publicly pissing on the people who, whatever you think of them, gave you a world that's at least free, if not ideal. I speak German... it's not a bad language |
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