This is the winner?

Nicely done, subby.

60m is nothing to that college and the ncaa has punished students that have no reason to be punished other than supporting joe pa... go after the people responsible..

I couldn't find a suitable yawning pic that also conveyed disdain.

I can accept the other punishments but vacating the last 14 years is bs to me.

I heard a slapping sound but walked by the thread.

Well done, subby.

Hahahaha!!!! You pedophiles lost every game since '98!!!!

So, Bobby Bowden is once again the winningest coach in Div 1A?

R.A.Danny: This is the winner?

I know.

At least it doesn't have the newsflash tag. So, we should be happy for that, I guess.

weak.

FTFA: "The NCAA has hit Penn State with a $60 million sanction, a four-year football postseason ban and a vacation of all wins dating to 1998, the organization said Monday morning."

Can someone please explain to a non-sports fan why this is important?

-.- ..... Well done subby!

dj_spanmaster: So, Bobby Bowden is once again the winningest coach in Div 1A?

That's the first thing I thought to -- guess so?

So Bobby Bowden is now the winningest coach?

kdawg7736: I can accept the other punishments but vacating the last 14 years is bs to me.

I agree. Did Sandusky somehow give the team an onfield advantage such that the wins were illegitimate?
Hint: The answer is no.

Why didn't they do the same thing to Catholic school teams?

Some pedos are more equal than others it seems.

Endive Wombat: FTFA: "The NCAA has hit Penn State with a $60 million sanction, a four-year football postseason ban and a vacation of all wins dating to 1998, the organization said Monday morning."

Can someone please explain to a non-sports fan why this is important?

Bowls give you money and by saying a team has lost every game since '98, you demoralize the entire fanbase.

Dear Penn:

HA ha!!!

God knows we need another rational thread on the sanctions...

One penalty the NCAA didn't issue that I would have:

All games for the next season must be played on the practice facility.

Make no mistake, Beaver Stadium will be full. Joe Paterno will be worshiped and nothing about the football culture at Penn State will change. If anything, this will make them feel more victimized.

Nothing like pushing out an article filled with errors. Nice job, ESPN.

Well, they certainly damaged Paterno's coaching legacy, so I guess that's something.

Endive Wombat: FTFA: "The NCAA has hit Penn State with a $60 million sanction, a four-year football postseason ban and a vacation of all wins dating to 1998, the organization said Monday morning."

Can someone please explain to a non-sports fan why this is important?

Think of the vacation as when Stalin would have people removed from photographs.

kdawg7736: I can accept the other punishments but vacating the last 14 years is bs to me.

Why? That makes perfect sense to me. JoePa doesn't get those wins, which means that ALL he will be remembered for 20 years from now is kiddie rape. That's as much justice as there will ever be with him.

As for the other punishments, $60 million that will go towards fighting other abuses is good, no bowls for a while is OK. I still would have like a total suspension of play for a couple of years, but we can't get everything I guess.

ScouserDuck: Endive Wombat: FTFA: "The NCAA has hit Penn State with a $60 million sanction, a four-year football postseason ban and a vacation of all wins dating to 1998, the organization said Monday morning."

Can someone please explain to a non-sports fan why this is important?

Bowls give you money and by saying a team has lost every game since '98, you demoralize the entire fanbase.

Bowls also give a team a few more weeks of practice.

i wish they could revive joe pa and give him the news

Endive Wombat: FTFA: "The NCAA has hit Penn State with a $60 million sanction, a four-year football postseason ban and a vacation of all wins dating to 1998, the organization said Monday morning."

Can someone please explain to a non-sports fan why this is important?

It's supposed to send a message that while no one other than Sandusky went to jail for what happened, we should feel like they were treated severely for what happened.

lohphat: Why didn't they do the same thing to Catholic school teams?

Some pedos are more equal than others it seems.

This scandal is directly related to the football program. I, personally, haven't heard of a situation arising from a catholic university. But there are so many that it's possible I missed it.

Endive Wombat: FTFA: "The NCAA has hit Penn State with a $60 million sanction, a four-year football postseason ban and a vacation of all wins dating to 1998, the organization said Monday morning."

Can someone please explain to a non-sports fan why this is important?

Lack of bowl games hurts recruiting and the vacated wins mean that Paterno is no longer the all time Div 1A wins leader.

Endive Wombat: FTFA: "The NCAA has hit Penn State with a $60 million sanction, a four-year football postseason ban and a vacation of all wins dating to 1998, the organization said Monday morning."

Can someone please explain to a non-sports fan why this is important?

Because Paterno was at the top of the all time D-1 coaching wins list. Taking away those 12 years of wins ensures he is nowhere near the record now.

Endive Wombat: FTFA: "The NCAA has hit Penn State with a $60 million sanction, a four-year football postseason ban and a vacation of all wins dating to 1998, the organization said Monday morning."

Can someone please explain to a non-sports fan why this is important?

Winning games and bowl games is the entire reason they play football. Basically telling them "everything you did the last 12 years is erased". It'd be like erasing half your resume then going to try to find a job.

ScouserDuck: Endive Wombat: FTFA: "The NCAA has hit Penn State with a $60 million sanction, a four-year football postseason ban and a vacation of all wins dating to 1998, the organization said Monday morning."

Can someone please explain to a non-sports fan why this is important?

Bowls give you money and by saying a team has lost every game since '98, you demoralize the entire fanbase.

So Penn State has retroactively "lost" all previously won games, which does what?

It's dusky in here...

brobdiggy: kdawg7736: I can accept the other punishments but vacating the last 14 years is bs to me.

I agree. Did Sandusky somehow give the team an onfield advantage such that the wins were illegitimate?
Hint: The answer is no.

That's not so much a punishment for Penn State but a deterrent to other programs and universities.

RumsfeldsReplacement: Why? That makes perfect sense to me. JoePa doesn't get those wins, which means that ALL he will be remembered for 20 years from now is kiddie rape. That's as much justice as there will ever be with him.

That's all he was going to be remembered for at this point anyway, regardless of what any official record says. Build 1,000 bridges and overlook ONE child molestation and no one will ever remember you as a bridge builder.

Imagine if he had lived to see this, along with his statue being torn down. He would die of a fatal ego implosion, no doubt.

I just wish Joe was alive to see it.

TanSau: Dear Penn:

HA ha!!!

Penn was sanctioned too?

Man... The NCAA is out of control today.

Cat Food Sandwiches: I just wish Joe was alive to see it.

*Like*

Icetech3: 60m is nothing to that college and the ncaa has punished students that have no reason to be punished other than supporting joe pa... go after the people responsible..

When I heard about it I thought the same thing. It's a slap on the wrist to Penn State but a blow to the students. The coach didn't win those games, the kids on the field did. This is hurting the students more than it's hurting the college. Plus, I feel bad for the senior football players who were working hard to try and get to those bowl games. More sanctions on the people involved and not the innocent students.

dj_spanmaster: So, Bobby Bowden is once again the winningest coach in Div 1A?

Eddie Robinson. He went 408-165-15 at Gramblind.
Bobby Bowden went 377-129-4 (with 12 wins vacated) at FSU and West Virginia.

stonicus: brobdiggy: kdawg7736: I can accept the other punishments but vacating the last 14 years is bs to me.

I agree. Did Sandusky somehow give the team an onfield advantage such that the wins were illegitimate?
Hint: The answer is no.

That's not so much a punishment for Penn State but a deterrent to other programs and universities.

Exactly. It's a reminder that there are more important things than winning football games, like protecting the innocence of a child.

WhoIsWillo: One penalty the NCAA didn't issue that I would have:

All games for the next season must be played on the practice facility.

Make no mistake, Beaver Stadium will be full. Joe Paterno will be worshiped and nothing about the football culture at Penn State will change. If anything, this will make them feel more victimized.

If there is no chance for a bowl game why would any decent player play for them?

Icetech3: 60m is nothing to that college and the ncaa has punished students that have no reason to be punished other than supporting joe pa... go after the people responsible..

That's what the ensuing lawsuits and continued investigation is for. If you don't punish the program, then it sends a message that this sort of institutional misbehavior is acceptable. Sorry life sucks.

They should just be counting their lucky stars they didn't get the death penalty.

Endive Wombat: ScouserDuck: Endive Wombat: FTFA: "The NCAA has hit Penn State with a $60 million sanction, a four-year football postseason ban and a vacation of all wins dating to 1998, the organization said Monday morning."

Can someone please explain to a non-sports fan why this is important?

Bowls give you money and by saying a team has lost every game since '98, you demoralize the entire fanbase.

So Penn State has retroactively "lost" all previously won games, which does what?

Effectively - nothing. But, this year, Joe Paterno passed Bobby Bowden on the all-time wins list for a D-1A/Bowl Subdivision football team. As far as the record books are concerned, 13 years of Joe Paterno victories have been knocked off, which drops Paterno way down that list. To the Cult of JoePa, this is pretty devastating.

LeafyGreens: dj_spanmaster: So, Bobby Bowden is once again the winningest coach in Div 1A?

That's the first thing I thought to -- guess so?

Go Noles!

Penn State just got some urban renewal.

stonicus: Endive Wombat: FTFA: "The NCAA has hit Penn State with a $60 million sanction, a four-year football postseason ban and a vacation of all wins dating to 1998, the organization said Monday morning."

Can someone please explain to a non-sports fan why this is important?

Winning games and bowl games is the entire reason they play football. Basically telling them "everything you did the last 12 years is erased". It'd be like erasing half your resume then going to try to find a job.

So doesn't this fark over current students (players)? What about folks who went to Penn State and are now in the Pros? Are they not "allowed" to put their Penn State football achievements on their resume?

JerseyTim: dj_spanmaster: So, Bobby Bowden is once again the winningest coach in Div 1A?

Eddie Robinson. He went 408-165-15 at Gramblind.
Bobby Bowden went 377-129-4 (with 12 wins vacated) at FSU and West Virginia.

Grambling was 1-AA for many of those years. Bowden leads 1-A.