This is a closeted PBR thread, isn't it?

/Pabst is urine in a can, not beer.
//Stick that in your trucker cap, douchebags.

MayoSlather: letrole: Anyone who drinks craft beer also tends to:

1. Own a TV but haven't turned it on in years
2. Ride a bike to work wearing spandex stretch trousers
3. Watch Japanese children's cartoons on a Mac
4. Appreciate the warmth of vinyl phonograph records
5. Read books at Starbucks
6. Claim to prefer girls with small breasts
7. Make snide remarks about Wal-Mart.
8. Walk past a smoker and force pretentious coughing noises
9. Take comfort in believing size doesn't matter
10. Feign disgust at the idea of eating a Big Mac

1. Own a TV, no cable
2. Own a bike, ride it often, no spandex
3. Have a Mac, have watched anime, but not together
4. No.
5. Sometimes.
6. Yes.
7. Yes.
8. That's douchey for anyone.
9. I'm not delusional.
10. Like big macs, don't eat them

/Like craft beer
//Also can drink piss water

Look at the freaking name you replied to, then go kill yourself.

I dunno, bottles or cans, beer tastes best straight from the vat.
/I live 5 minutes from a brewery

Never had a bottle rip a 'stache hair out by the root, which hurts more than childbirth

/probably

I live in the sweltering south... if I want to have a beer at a festival, the pool, et cetera it can't be in a bottle. When I want to spend some bucks for quality, it is Dale's Pale Ale or a Westbrook... Otherwise it'll be a Yuengling.

If I could roll a kegerator around, I would, but I can't. For the record, I drink beer from a proper glass whenever possibru.

The local bar has these things they do every few months called beer dinners. For $60 you get a hosted gourmet menu, each course paired with a specific beer. Generally they are very enjoyable. The most recent one was all canned beer. Because "you don't know canned beer" and they were making a point to show how good it is now. My buddy went to the dinner but I passed.

There is no way in hell I am forking over $60 for beer in a can. Sorry. I had some decent stuff when I was in Denver a few weeks ago, but they were only better than I expected, not superior.

The majority of great beers out there only come bottled, however, if you want a great canned beer.... try Monk's Blood

I like Molson's in a bottle.

There, I said it.

GRCooper: Never had a bottle rip a 'stache hair out by the root, which hurts more than childbirth

/probably

I have had a mustache since 1985 and I have never had that happen. The things you learn on Fark.

Lando Lincoln: Yeah, sorry, I still prefer bottles. The only time I'd prefer a can is if I'm going somewhere that doesn't allow bottles. And I don't go anywhere like that.

I most definitely take my beer with me -- and a back-up -- if I'm drinkin' and i have to take a shiat.

/MGD cans > MGD bottles
//Molson Ice bottles FTW

urban.derelict: I most definitely take my beer with me -- and a back-up -- if I'm drinkin' and i have to take a shiat.

/MGD cans > MGD bottles
//Molson Ice bottles FTW

Have you ever considered AA?

Lando Lincoln: Have you ever considered AA?

Have you ever considered shutting the fuc* up?

/morons -- every one of you -- misread the f*cking headline

As the packaging lines become cheaper, more beer will be canned. I have heard from many people that they don't like cans, but I have yet to hear that from a brewer, and I know many of those in Southern Ontario. Hell, if I could can my homebrew, I would.

urban.derelict: Have you ever considered shutting the fuc* up?

/morons -- every one of you -- misread the f*cking headline

RAWR a bunch of farkers woke up with their taints twisted from a hangover this morning.

SilentStrider: Beer from a can just doesn't taste right to me. Its gotta be in bottles.

It's your imagination. Your perception bias kicks in and you taste things that aren't there. Do a blind taste test of five or six beers, one of them from a can, and I guarantee the only way you'll pick out the canned beer is by luck.

SharkTrager: MayoSlather: letrole: Anyone who drinks craft beer also tends to:

1. Own a TV but haven't turned it on in years
2. Ride a bike to work wearing spandex stretch trousers
3. Watch Japanese children's cartoons on a Mac
4. Appreciate the warmth of vinyl phonograph records
5. Read books at Starbucks
6. Claim to prefer girls with small breasts
7. Make snide remarks about Wal-Mart.
8. Walk past a smoker and force pretentious coughing noises
9. Take comfort in believing size doesn't matter
10. Feign disgust at the idea of eating a Big Mac

1. Own a TV, no cable
2. Own a bike, ride it often, no spandex
3. Have a Mac, have watched anime, but not together
4. No.
5. Sometimes.
6. Yes.
7. Yes.
8. That's douchey for anyone.
9. I'm not delusional.
10. Like big macs, don't eat them

/Like craft beer
//Also can drink piss water

Look at the freaking name you replied to, then go kill yourself.

But surveys are fun.

Lando Lincoln: urban.derelict: I most definitely take my beer with me -- and a back-up -- if I'm drinkin' and i have to take a shiat.

/MGD cans > MGD bottles
//Molson Ice bottles FTW

Have you ever considered AA?

Why? it not like he's drinking malt liquor

I don't know what amazed me more: that the best beer selection I've found in all of CT is at a store out in the boonies near my office, or the fact that it has a bigger selection of good canned beers than the best stores in CA or WI.

robohobo: Which will our benevolent goverment know-betters ban first, cans or bottles? That's all that matters.

Never going to happen. Since neither cans nor bottles have ever killed anyone or made anyone sick, it's never gonna happen for food safety reasons. Even the most likely scenario -- we elect another crony capitalist like your boy Bush, who proceeds to appoint a can or bottle lobbyist to head a regulatory body -- has a vanishingly small chance of ever actually happening.

Cost and consumer acceptance is going to drive this. Not boogeymen.

I've made an emergency pipe out of a beer can - can't really do that with bottles.
I like cans because they are light - it helps me bring more beer back on the airplane. Can or bottle - I always pour it in a glass anyway.

AbbeySomeone: I'm a wine drinker but sometimes I enjoy a PBR or Rainier in a can when it's hot out. Must be icy cold beer.
Dunno why.

Because you have absolutely no taste whatsoever.

Cost and consumer acceptance is are going to drive this

AbbeySomeone: I'm a wine drinker but sometimes I enjoy a PBR or Rainier in a can when it's hot out. Must be icy cold beer.
Dunno why.

Because icy cold beer basically has no taste. That is why the horse piss manufacturers encourage you to chill their swill until it's "cold as the mountains".

That being said, whether it's good or bad beer, in a can or a bottle, any real beer snob would tell you to pour it into a glass (or a red Solo cup). Pouring it into a container allows CO2 to escape from the beverage and that "tickles" your nose and olfactory sense when it gets up by your mouth. You have to SMELL beer to really appreciate the taste. Since "taste" is 90% what you smell, all beer will taste better when poured from its shipping and storage container to a consumption container.

wardlyone: New Belgium is selling Fat Tire in 16oz cans. It tastes better from the can.

This! Fat Tire is my absolute favorite (I don't think that makes me a snob since it's pretty well known by now). Anyway, I don't know why but it tastes far better in the can.

Gonz: Jesucristo, you cretins. I don't care how you buy your beer. Bottle, can, 40, kegs, whatever. Pour it into a glass and drink it like a civilized human.

Whoa whoa whoa. I assumed that whether or not it came in cans or bottles, people would be pouring it into a glass. Is this not the case?

Drinking beer directly from a can or bottle is like dumping your food on the floor and chowing down like a hog.

snitramc: AbbeySomeone: I'm a wine drinker but sometimes I enjoy a PBR or Rainier in a can when it's hot out. Must be icy cold beer.
Dunno why.

Because icy cold beer basically has no taste. That is why the horse piss manufacturers encourage you to chill their swill until it's "cold as the mountains".

That being said, whether it's good or bad beer, in a can or a bottle, any real beer snob would tell you to pour it into a glass (or a red Solo cup). Pouring it into a container allows CO2 to escape from the beverage and that "tickles" your nose and olfactory sense when it gets up by your mouth. You have to SMELL beer to really appreciate the taste. Since "taste" is 90% what you smell, all beer will taste better when poured from its shipping and storage container to a consumption container.

Oh for farks sake get over yourself.

People who biatch about canned beer tasting different are full of shiat. These same people never biatch because Coke tastes different in a can, because it doesn't.

robohobo:
I have that photoset.

Captain Swoop:
/also have the set

Pfft.





But back to the topic at hand. Cans are objectively the superior packaging, but mostly crappy beers come in cans, its sort of a catch 22. Yeah most canned beer sucks, but cuz its shiatty beer, not because of the cans. Ive also heard that craft brewers like to perpetuate the myth of bottles being better because canning equipment would be an expensive investment.

Its pretty much the same deal with wine, the bag in a box is better, but better wines dont come in boxes.

bel4sucks: People who biatch about canned beer tasting different are full of shiat. These same people never biatch because Coke tastes different in a can, because it doesn't.

Not necessarily true. When the isohumulones in hops are exposed to light, the same type of chemicals that are produced in the spray of skunk can be produced. This is less of a factor in beers from megabreweries, as these beers have been over-produced so as not to really resemble "real" beer.

So depending on the transportation/packaging/storage conditions, you might find that the exact same beer will taste different depending on how it is packaged:
- clear glass bottles (worst of all)
- green bottles
- brown bottles
- cans (usually best of all, but dependant on the lining used)

So for beer in clear glass bottles, it usually means that the producer has processed the crap out of it (to the point where it's more chemicals than beer), or that the brewery doesn't really care about the quality of its product (e.g. you're drinking "marketing", not "brewing").

phaseolus Cost and consumer acceptance is are be going to drive this

shoegaze99: SilentStrider: Beer from a can just doesn't taste right to me. Its gotta be in bottles.

It's your imagination. Your perception bias kicks in and you taste things that aren't there. Do a blind taste test of five or six beers, one of them from a can, and I guarantee the only way you'll pick out the canned beer is by luck.

Pretty sire a metallic aftertaste isn't my imgination, its my taste buds.

Old people are conditioned by marketers to think bottle=better. Young people aren't being brought up to think Heineken is better that PBR so they don't have the hang up over cans to the same extent.

SilentStrider: shoegaze99: SilentStrider: Beer from a can just doesn't taste right to me. Its gotta be in bottles.

It's your imagination. Your perception bias kicks in and you taste things that aren't there. Do a blind taste test of five or six beers, one of them from a can, and I guarantee the only way you'll pick out the canned beer is by luck.

Pretty sire a metallic aftertaste isn't my imgination, its my taste buds.

It's all in your head.

SilentStrider: shoegaze99: SilentStrider: Beer from a can just doesn't taste right to me. Its gotta be in bottles.

It's your imagination. Your perception bias kicks in and you taste things that aren't there. Do a blind taste test of five or six beers, one of them from a can, and I guarantee the only way you'll pick out the canned beer is by luck.

Pretty sire a metallic aftertaste isn't my imgination, its my taste buds.

No. It's your imagination. I used to do it too. Pour a beer from a can into 3 cups. Pour a beer from a bottle into 2 cups. Now taste them all. They taste identical. Everyone says they can pick out the cans and bottles on this taste test. They can't.

SilentStrider: Pretty sire a metallic aftertaste isn't my imgination, its my taste buds.

It's your imagination. Unless you're drinking right from the can, and thus putting your mouth right on the can, you won't get any metallic taste because modern cans are lined. There is no way to impart a metallic taste because your beer does not come in contact with metal.

Again, do some double blind taste tests. When you remove perception bias from the equation -- and again, we're assuming you're pouring your beer into a glass -- you'll suddenly find it very difficult to spot that metallic taste.

Madbassist1: Oh for farks sake get over yourself.

He's right though. I don't tell people what to drink or how to drink it. I'm a beer enthusiast, not a snob, but it's objectively true that you taste more of your beer when drinking it from a glass than from the bottle or can. If you really want to fully experience your beer, you pour it. That's not snobbery, that's just acknowledging basic science.

I don't care if someone doesn't do that. Not going to judge them one way or another. Drink what you and how you want. Unlike the dude you responded to, you won't catch me saying, "Oh, that's horse piss."

But I don't think there is anything wrong with recognizing that pouring your beer is almost always preferable to drinking from the bottle or can.

/"Almost" because I prefer macro lagers right from the bottle

I picked up a sixer of Hell or High Watermellon cans last night. Pretty dang good. First tried it at the Oregon Brewer's Festival last year and got hooked for some reason.

/csb

http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/

SilentStrider: Beer from a can just doesn't taste right to me. Its gotta be in bottles.

Do you know what a keg is?

Can't we all just agree that the plastic bottle, when packaged in a paper box provides a great seal while being easy on the environment. Also, it fails to litter golf courses or pool areas with sharp objects and makes a poor weapon.

Does anyone know if it is possible to "can condition" a beer? I've gotten pretty good at pouring the bottles and not getting the sediment into my glass, but I don't think the same could be said for a can since its the neck of the bottle that seems to make it possible.

Lsherm: basemetal: I like bottles, I mean if it's free and in a can, sure, why not, but I prefer the bottles.

You can drink faster from a bottle, unless it's those Coors Light cans with the vent. However, cans are a better packaging option from almost every objective standard. They weigh less, they don't let light in, they cool faster, and they're cheaper. They recycle easier unless you count reusing the bottles as recycling, but that has to be brand specific.

and they taste like shiat. Even modern cans with plastic liners still impart funny flavors to the beer that you don't get with glass bottles. Unless you're going to pour it into a glass(in which case who cares what it was originally packaged in) bottles are better.

/if I wanted funny tasting alcohol there are easier and cheaper ways of doing that than drinking craft beer from a can

Rapmaster2000: Old people are conditioned by marketers to think bottle=better. Young people aren't being brought up to think Heineken is better that PBR so they don't have the hang up over cans to the same extent.

Bottle means less pasteurization if any.

Bottle is always better. Never has any beer commercial told you that bottle is better. Because big beer loves canned and pasteurization.

jso2897: Just as cans cool quicker, they warm quicker


Problem solved.

rockforever: Rapmaster2000: Old people are conditioned by marketers to think bottle=better. Young people aren't being brought up to think Heineken is better that PBR so they don't have the hang up over cans to the same extent.

Bottle means less pasteurization if any.

Bottle is always better. Never has any beer commercial told you that bottle is better. Because big beer loves canned and pasteurization.

Link

Bottles are pasteurized as well. You really don't know what you are talking about.

pSPAZz: Does anyone know if it is possible to "can condition" a beer? I've gotten pretty good at pouring the bottles and not getting the sediment into my glass, but I don't think the same could be said for a can since its the neck of the bottle that seems to make it possible.

As long as the beer hasn't been filtered to the point where there is no yeast left the beer will condition in any container. Granted, it will condition slower with less yeast, but it will still condition.

So, yes.

rockforever: Never has any beer commercial told you that bottle is better.

Nor should they, because they would be wrong. Cans better protect beer from oxidation and offer complete protect from being lightstruck, better known as skunked. They're also more easily transported, stored, and recycled. About the only downsides are that canning lines are very expensive for small brewers, and the long-term effects of the BPA in modern lining is unclear.

You are not correct in saying that canned beer is pasteurized while bottled beer is not. Both are usually pasteurized by larger brewers. Both are usually not pasteurized by small brewers. Pasteurization is a choice made by the brewers; the vessel it comes in has no bearing on it either way.

Gonz: Jesucristo, you cretins. I don't care how you buy your beer. Bottle, can, 40, kegs, whatever. Pour it into a glass and drink it like a civilized human.

I do this, mainly because I like the foam to settle a bit before drinking it, which is why I prefer draft beer.

I have had some pretty decent boxed wines, too.

Kwai Lo: rockforever: Rapmaster2000: Old people are conditioned by marketers to think bottle=better. Young people aren't being brought up to think Heineken is better that PBR so they don't have the hang up over cans to the same extent.

Bottle means less pasteurization if any.

Bottle is always better. Never has any beer commercial told you that bottle is better. Because big beer loves canned and pasteurization.

Link

Bottles are pasteurized as well. You really don't know what you are talking about.

Certain beers don't get pasteurized in the bottle depending on the locality. A famous example is England's imported Guinness. The bottles were unpasteurized but the draught was pasteurized. There have been many cases like this where

Canned beer is always pasteurized and at times bottled beer is as well. Re-read my comment. American beers typically don't matter because they are more carbonated and less hoppy than other beers. The pasteurization doesn't destroy the taste when there is no taste to be had.

Pour your beer into a glass you god damn plebes.

Rapmaster2000: SilentStrider: shoegaze99: SilentStrider: Beer from a can just doesn't taste right to me. Its gotta be in bottles.

It's your imagination. Your perception bias kicks in and you taste things that aren't there. Do a blind taste test of five or six beers, one of them from a can, and I guarantee the only way you'll pick out the canned beer is by luck.

Pretty sire a metallic aftertaste isn't my imgination, its my taste buds.

No. It's your imagination. I used to do it too. Pour a beer from a can into 3 cups. Pour a beer from a bottle into 2 cups. Now taste them all. They taste identical. Everyone says they can pick out the cans and bottles on this taste test. They can't.

This person knows what he is talking about. People who disagree with him do not.

You can't taste the difference between the canned and bottled versions of [beer x]. If you say you can, you are wrong. No, the cans do not make beer taste 'metallic', you are imagining it and still wrong.

/now, the difference between DRAFT and cans/bottles... that is distinguishable.