Yes, this is the same guy who said we don't need Obamacare because people don't die from cancer anymore.

Sounds like quite an elitist there.

He did not say that.

"My federal return is probably 25 pages long," Collins added. "It's too much for the public to absorb."

FFS.

No, your whargaarbl is too much to absorb.

[toomuchwhargaarbl]

They probably are, at least for me.

IronTom: They probably are, at least for me.

Could you fellate yourself offline, instead of the usual?

kmmontandon: Could you fellate yourself offline, instead of the usual?

He's doing it for the attention, which you are giving him. You are the problem.

GAT_00: kmmontandon: Could you fellate yourself offline, instead of the usual?

He's doing it for the attention, which you are giving him. You are the problem.

I'm too drunk to care about being the problem.

kmmontandon: GAT_00: kmmontandon: Could you fellate yourself offline, instead of the usual?

He's doing it for the attention, which you are giving him. You are the problem.

I'm too drunk to care about being the problem.

"...the cause of and solution to all of life's problems".

Still can't quite believe the GOP are going with "don't worry your pretty little head about it" as a strategy here.

THIS! This is what Rmoney should've done. At least this can be attributed to dipshiattedness more than malfeasance.

I don't trust any candidate that files anything other than a 1040EZ.

So this is the new thing then?

Given the things that are being said about Romney's taxes and how grossly inaccurate those things are...

He might be right.

Because I'm sure its just misunderstanding and not intentional distortion.

kmmontandon: IronTom: They probably are, at least for me.

Could you fellate yourself offline, instead of the usual?

bite me

randomjsa: Given the things that are being said about Romney's taxes and how grossly inaccurate those things are...

Oh, you've seen them?

A sad new trend.
There should be a law requiring all candidates to release tax returns for at least 10 years. Of course that would never get passed as a law.

randomjsa: Because I'm sure its just misunderstanding and not intentional distortion.

I'm loving the irony right now, considering that you all did the exact same stuff you're saying we might do when Obama released his birth certificate twice.

If only there were some profession that had expertise in researching information and then presenting to the public in an easy-to-understand way so that the average person wouldn't have to read the tax returns and figure it out themselves.

Wow, at least 2 tax return greens here, I wonder how many more we have to see over something that is boring?

Honestly, the best thing Romney could do for his campaign, starting right friggin' now, is hide. No public appearances, no interviews, no "off the cuff" statements, nothing. Let his campaign do his talking for him.

Because, at this moment, each word that comes out of Romney's mouth is just another shoveful dug out of his own political grave. Ryan isn't helping, either, but damn, Romney's just a friggin' fool.

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: If only there were some profession that had expertise in researching information and then presenting to the public in an easy-to-understand way so that the average person wouldn't have to read the tax returns and figure it out themselves.

For that to be a problem, the GOP actually has to release their tax returns, dontcha think?

Then again, wild unfettered speculation resulting in unfounded illogical conclusions IS a lot more fun.

Vindibudd: Wow, at least 2 tax return greens here, I wonder how many more we have to see over something that is boring?

Boo friggin' hoo. Hey, I think I saw Obama's Kenyan birth certificate over there - go take a look!

Lionel Mandrake: randomjsa: Given the things that are being said about Romney's taxes and how grossly inaccurate those things are...

Oh, you've seen them?

Seen them? He's a line item on the 1999, 2000, and 2001 returns!

So is the Tommy Thompson in Wisconsin. Link

Vindibudd: Wow, at least 2 tax return greens here, I wonder how many more we have to see over something that is boring?

You don't have to read or comment on anything. Are you some kind of masochist?

FormlessOne: Lionel Mandrake: randomjsa: Given the things that are being said about Romney's taxes and how grossly inaccurate those things are...

Oh, you've seen them?

Seen them? He's a line item on the 1999, 2000, and 2001 returns!

Huh, I didn't know blowjobs were a write-off

Quince: For that to be a problem, the GOP actually has to release their tax returns, dontcha think?

No, it's just the argument "ah, well you don't understand it so there is no point." Well, I would probably need a journalist who is an expert in tax policy to help me make sense of a complicated tax return of a millionaire, but it's not beyond my grasp.

I'm having trouble giving a flying f*ck given how poor the writing is.

Vindibudd: Wow, at least 2 tax return greens here, I wonder how many more we have to see over something that is boring?

How dare you disrespect George Romney! Mormon God will get you soon!

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Quince: For that to be a problem, the GOP actually has to release their tax returns, dontcha think?

No, it's just the argument "ah, well you don't understand it so there is no point." Well, I would probably need a journalist who is an expert in tax policy to help me make sense of a complicated tax return of a millionaire, but it's not beyond my grasp.

Most people probably would too. But it only takes one clueful person to understand it and pass the word. It's funny, in the day and age of wikileaks and effective crowd sourcing data mining out of massive lengthy documents, some nitwit actually tries to say that nobody could understand his 25 page tax return.

I was under the impression that Republicans enjoy sharing their long and hard things with everybody

"Collins says, though, that he can't release those full tax details without revealing his business partners' income and without jeopardizing the competitive position of his companies."

His companies' positions would be jeopardized if people knew how much he earned?
If they are publicly traded then it should be pretty much common knowledge what he earns working at the companies (or else everything conservatives have told me about shareholders deciding through market forces the pay of high level employees is completely false).

If they aren't, what difference does it make whether he's earning 1 dollar a year or a billion to his competitors?

I'd share my tax returns with you but, you see, I file electronically and I wouldn't want to risk shocking you.

GAT_00: Sounds like quite an elitist there.

Pales in comparison to eating arugula, though. Or having a non-professional graduate degree. Or having an opinion contrary to Fox. We're the elitists here, GAT.

wademh: I'd share my tax returns with you but, you see, I file electronically and I wouldn't want to risk shocking you.

I don't care who you are, that's some funny sh*t right there.

Smackledorfer: "Collins says, though, that he can't release those full tax details without revealing his business partners' income and without jeopardizing the competitive position of his companies."

His companies' positions would be jeopardized if people knew how much he earned?
If they are publicly traded then it should be pretty much common knowledge what he earns working at the companies (or else everything conservatives have told me about shareholders deciding through market forces the pay of high level employees is completely false).

If they aren't, what difference does it make whether he's earning 1 dollar a year or a billion to his competitors?

If it's a private partnership, you want to keep that info secret. Just release the 'back page', and not the stuff that details what's going on in the partnership.

The Jami Turman Fan Club: Smackledorfer: "Collins says, though, that he can't release those full tax details without revealing his business partners' income and without jeopardizing the competitive position of his companies."

His companies' positions would be jeopardized if people knew how much he earned?
If they are publicly traded then it should be pretty much common knowledge what he earns working at the companies (or else everything conservatives have told me about shareholders deciding through market forces the pay of high level employees is completely false).

If they aren't, what difference does it make whether he's earning 1 dollar a year or a billion to his competitors?

If it's a private partnership, you want to keep that info secret. Just release the 'back page', and not the stuff that details what's going on in the partnership.

What competitive positions of the business would be compromised?

FormlessOne: Honestly, the best thing Romney could do for his campaign, starting right friggin' now, is hide. No public appearances, no interviews, no "off the cuff" statements, nothing. Let his campaign do his talking for him.

Because, at this moment, each word that comes out of Romney's mouth is just another shoveful dug out of his own political grave. Ryan isn't helping, either, but damn, Romney's just a friggin' fool.

You do know that this one is not about him, right?

A ostentatiously rich man should not be looked on with admiration ...

He should be looked on with suspicion.

Romney releasing his tax returns prior to 2010 is not just political poison, but may actually be the one thing which causes a populist groundswell that upsets the gaming of the system which is so tilted to the Wall Street casino. It really could be an outrage, and a disaster for the business wing of the Republican party.

Romney should consult with this guy.

dickfreckle: wademh: I'd share my tax returns with you but, you see, I file electronically and I wouldn't want to risk shocking you.

I don't care who you are, that's some funny sh*t right there.

Kinda what I thought too

The guy may be a douche but this blog really sucks.

randomjsa: Given the things that are being said about Romney's taxes and how grossly inaccurate those things are...

He might be right.

Because I'm sure its just misunderstanding and not intentional distortion.

Since he has nothing to hide, why not just release them, like every other candidate has done, and make the problem go away?
Whar?

Harry_Seldon: Romney releasing his tax returns prior to 2010 is not just political poison, but may actually be the one thing which causes a populist groundswell that upsets the gaming of the system which is so tilted to the Wall Street casino. It really could be an outrage, and a disaster for the business wing of the Republican party.

I doubt it. If he releases his returns, those of us who are not inclined to like him will be outraged, those on the other side won't care, and not a single Elector will change hands.

If he continues to make it "obvious he is hiding something," we can continue to make it bigger than it probably is.

Wait... I see what you are doing... Please carry on.

randomjsa: Given the things that are being said about Romney's taxes and how grossly inaccurate those things are...

He might be right.

Because I'm sure its just misunderstanding and not intentional distortion.

You're sure?

"What Romney's saying is technically true, but it's misleading," Victor Fleischer told FOX31 Denver. "The reason it's misleading is because it's 13 percent of what? Of his taxable income, that may be true. But you can have a lot of economic income that isn't taxable and Romney has shown himself to be quite sophisticated in keeping his taxable income low even as his economic income remains high."

themindiswatching: randomjsa: Because I'm sure its just misunderstanding and not intentional distortion.

I'm loving the irony right now, considering that you all did the exact same stuff you're saying we might do when Obama released his birth certificate twice.

I hate to be that guy... but I went hunting for some of his old comments, and randomjsa has consistently said the whole birth certificate is only supported by a few fringe websites on the right. In fact, for one particularly trollish BC headline, his only comment in the entire thread was a "you're not helping" image...

I know it's hard to believe, you're welcome to prove me wrong...

I grew up with two corporate tax accountants who never talked about anything else. I could parse the 25 pages. Bring it motherfarker!

gadian: I grew up with two corporate tax accountants who never talked about anything else. I could parse the 25 pages. Bring it motherfarker!

That's weird. You don't sound like an ax murderer.

Republicans sure have a lot to hide from their constituents, huh?