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   New Jersey announces that residents displaced by Sandy can vote by email or fax, a move guaranteed to end well

04 Nov 2012 07:57 AM   |   2565 clicks   |   ABC
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Oldiron_79     
110% turnout predicted in New Jersey

04 Nov 2012 07:58 AM
Summoner101     
Does 4chan know?

This sounds like too good an opportunity to pass up.

04 Nov 2012 07:59 AM
ras django     

Summoner101: Does 4chan know?

This sounds like too good an opportunity to pass up.


also, i'm glad they've included the fax machine.

04 Nov 2012 08:03 AM
Richard_The_Clown     
I'm thinking that if Romney wins, we'll get reports like how thousands of people couldn't get out to vote because of all the devastation in the northeast. It will be another "stolen" election. However, if Obama wins, then it'll be "the system works, even in the face of such devastation."

04 Nov 2012 08:06 AM
Abe Vigoda's Ghost     

ras django: Summoner101: Does 4chan know?

This sounds like too good an opportunity to pass up.

also, i'm glad they've included the fax machine.


Can I also vote from my rotary phone?

04 Nov 2012 08:07 AM
DanInKansas     
Meh. Just means Obama carries the state by an even wider margin.

04 Nov 2012 08:07 AM
KrispyKritter     
There's an app for that

04 Nov 2012 08:09 AM
EngineerAU     

Richard_The_Clown: I'm thinking that if Romney wins, we'll get reports like how thousands of people couldn't get out to vote because of all the devastation in the northeast. It will be another "stolen" election. However, if Obama wins, then it'll be "the system works, even in the face of such devastation."


I'm predicting 100% chance of strawman followed by plenty of butt-hurt late in the evening.

04 Nov 2012 08:13 AM
byelii     
Your move, Chicago....

04 Nov 2012 08:14 AM
IamKaiserSoze!!!     
Probably because the big guy isn't on the ballot.

Dems already got the Jersey EC votes, so who cares?

04 Nov 2012 08:16 AM
182     

Richard_The_Clown: I'm thinking that if Romney wins, we'll get reports like how thousands of people couldn't get out to vote because of all the devastation in the northeast. It will be another "stolen" election. However, if Obama wins, then it'll be "the system works, even in the face of such devastation."


you are definitely a clown.

04 Nov 2012 08:18 AM
ras django     

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: ras django: Summoner101: Does 4chan know?

This sounds like too good an opportunity to pass up.

also, i'm glad they've included the fax machine.

Can I also vote from my rotary phone?

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04 Nov 2012 08:21 AM
whizbang     

IamKaiserSoze!!!: Probably because the big guy isn't on the ballot.

Dems already got the Jersey EC votes, so who cares?


umm, voters for candidates in local elective positions?

yeah, something like that

04 Nov 2012 08:24 AM
durbnpoisn     
If the results in NJ are even close - especially if this state ends up being a deciding factor - This is going to be like that whole hanging chad incident, all over again.

I've often wondered how things in this world would have turned out if Bush's brother didn't break the law and hand him the election, thereby stripping Al Gore of the fair win. Hmmm....

04 Nov 2012 08:26 AM
Jon iz teh kewl     
that would be very funny if Roseanne Barr wins

04 Nov 2012 08:26 AM
Morgellons     

Richard_The_Clown: I'm thinking that if Romney wins, we'll get reports like how thousands of people couldn't get out to vote because of all the devastation in the northeast. It will be another "stolen" election. However, if Obama wins, then it'll be "the system works, even in the face of such devastation."


Or, you know, t' other way 'round...

(Would that be "what's good for the goose is good for the gander"?)

04 Nov 2012 08:27 AM
jso2897     

182: Richard_The_Clown: I'm thinking that if Romney wins, we'll get reports like how thousands of people couldn't get out to vote because of all the devastation in the northeast. It will be another "stolen" election. However, if Obama wins, then it'll be "the system works, even in the face of such devastation."

you are definitely a clown.


He's gonna get caught.
Just you wait and see.

04 Nov 2012 08:29 AM
wambu     
We need to sponsor a write-in campaign for Drew.

04 Nov 2012 08:29 AM
themanuf     
Considering everyone I know from Jersey still uses an @aol.com account, I don't expect this to end well. Bunch of orange farktards up there.

04 Nov 2012 08:36 AM
Alleyoop     
Simple enough...

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04 Nov 2012 08:36 AM
Arcanum     

Richard_The_Clown: I'm thinking that if Romney wins, we'll get reports like how thousands of people couldn't get out to vote because of all the devastation in the northeast. It will be another "stolen" election. However, if Obama wins, then it'll be "the system works, even in the face of such devastation."


I think the left will continue to promote ridiculous conspiracy theories whether they win or lose.

Meanwhile, they will prove they don't take election security seriously by scoffing at common sense measures like checking ID (perhaps with a little racism about how black people are somehow inherently less able to get ID in there).

Obviously voting by email is also not secure.

We aren't letting soldiers vote by email, even when we screw up their absentee ballots.

Remember how the democrats threw out all those military ballots in Florida in 2000 when they failed to steal that election? Disgusting. Then they start pretending they care about veterans.

Fortunately, we have the state elections, not national elections, so if a couple of blue states allow cheating, the damage is pretty limited.

04 Nov 2012 08:42 AM
thurstonxhowell     

themanuf: Considering everyone I know from Jersey still uses an @aol.com account, I don't expect this to end well. Bunch of orange farktards up there.


Have you ever considered that you may be an awful person who chooses other awful people to associate with?

04 Nov 2012 08:42 AM
Nick Nostril     
Politics thread in your main page? It's more likely than you think.

04 Nov 2012 08:47 AM
SH     

Richard_The_Clown: I'm thinking that if Romney wins, we'll get reports like how thousands of people couldn't get out to vote because of all the devastation in the northeast. It will be another "stolen" election. However, if Obama wins, then it'll be "the system works, even in the face of such devastation."


Spoken by a true clown.

04 Nov 2012 08:48 AM
Richard_The_Clown     

Morgellons: Richard_The_Clown: I'm thinking that if Romney wins, we'll get reports like how thousands of people couldn't get out to vote because of all the devastation in the northeast. It will be another "stolen" election. However, if Obama wins, then it'll be "the system works, even in the face of such devastation."

Or, you know, t' other way 'round...

(Would that be "what's good for the goose is good for the gander"?)


Maybe from some of the wingnuts, sure. But I can't see someone like Rush or Hannity saying the election was stolen. They'll accept the results and move on. If Romney wins, I'm thinking that there will be lawsuits, reports of voter fraud, and that it will just be a repeat of the 2000 election. Hopefully that won't be the case. I really hope I'm wrong no matter who wins.

04 Nov 2012 08:48 AM
Abox     
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Faxing his vote right over.

04 Nov 2012 08:50 AM
tomWright     
So they are saying I have 2 days to write a script to make Gary Johnson win NJ?

Cool. BRB

04 Nov 2012 08:50 AM
pciszek     

IamKaiserSoze!!!: Probably because the big guy isn't on the ballot.

Dems already got the Jersey EC votes, so who cares?


If the voting goes to e-mail and fax, New Jersey's EC votes are likely to go to "Enlarge you Penis" or "Make Money Fast!"

04 Nov 2012 08:55 AM
byelii     

Richard_The_Clown: Morgellons: Richard_The_Clown: But I can't see someone like Rush or Hannity saying the election was stolen. They'll accept the results and move on.


that's a clown comment bro.

04 Nov 2012 08:55 AM
stonent     
This just in, Ron Paul wins NJ by a landslide.

04 Nov 2012 08:58 AM
pciszek     

Richard_The_Clown: I'm thinking that if Romney wins, we'll get reports like how thousands of people couldn't get out to vote because of all the devastation in the northeast. It will be another "stolen" election. However, if Obama wins, then it'll be "the system works, even in the face of such devastation."


Since it is almost entirely Blue states that were affected by the hurricane, yes.

If a disaster prevented the central plains states from voting, and Obama won, do you think there wouldn't be a stink over that?

04 Nov 2012 09:04 AM
pciszek     

Arcanum: Remember how the democrats threw out all those military ballots in Florida in 2000 when they failed to steal that election? Disgusting. Then they start pretending they care about veterans.


Whereas the Republicans don't even pretend.

04 Nov 2012 09:08 AM
tomWright     

pciszek: Arcanum: Remember how the democrats threw out all those military ballots in Florida in 2000 when they failed to steal that election? Disgusting. Then they start pretending they care about veterans.

Whereas the Republicans don't even pretend.


Well, you *DO* want honesty and transparency in government, right?

04 Nov 2012 09:17 AM
CptnSpldng     

IamKaiserSoze!!!: Probably because the big guy isn't on the ballot.

Dems already got the Jersey EC votes, so who cares?


Because there are US Rep races that matter/are in question, There's a freshman Republican representative who just got his seat made safer by cutting out Cherry Hill and adding more Republican Brick Twp. Whoops! All of a sudden, a big bunch of Brick Twp. is damaged.
Because there are State Assembly & Senate races that are close. There are even contests for the Board of Frozen Cheeseholders that matter to a lot of people.
We don't run these contests just to entertain you folks. Altho sometimes we do it for the lulz.

04 Nov 2012 09:20 AM
EVERYBODY PANIC     

SH: Richard_The_Clown: I'm thinking that if Romney wins, we'll get reports like how thousands of people couldn't get out to vote because of all the devastation in the northeast. It will be another "stolen" election. However, if Obama wins, then it'll be "the system works, even in the face of such devastation."

Spoken by a true clown.


Actually, that sounds like exactly how it will be spun in the press. Please offer us a better explanation if you have insight into this. You tell me how this will be explained when the votes swing either way. This I will enjoy reading.

/Not a partisan either way. Taken a vow to not participate in organized crime. But I sorta enjoy this circus.

04 Nov 2012 09:23 AM
pi8you     
For the curious, here's the full directive/announcement (pops, pdf)

04 Nov 2012 09:27 AM
Abox     

EVERYBODY PANIC: SH: Richard_The_Clown: I'm thinking that if Romney wins, we'll get reports like how thousands of people couldn't get out to vote because of all the devastation in the northeast. It will be another "stolen" election. However, if Obama wins, then it'll be "the system works, even in the face of such devastation."

Spoken by a true clown.

Actually, that sounds like exactly how it will be spun in the press. Please offer us a better explanation if you have insight into this. You tell me how this will be explained when the votes swing either way. This I will enjoy reading.

/Not a partisan either way. Taken a vow to not participate in organized crime. But I sorta enjoy this circus.



Maybe on the left. If Obama wins the right will blame voter fraud and the librul media.

04 Nov 2012 09:27 AM
Richard_The_Clown     

EVERYBODY PANIC: SH: Richard_The_Clown: I'm thinking that if Romney wins, we'll get reports like how thousands of people couldn't get out to vote because of all the devastation in the northeast. It will be another "stolen" election. However, if Obama wins, then it'll be "the system works, even in the face of such devastation."

Spoken by a true clown.

Actually, that sounds like exactly how it will be spun in the press. Please offer us a better explanation if you have insight into this. You tell me how this will be explained when the votes swing either way. This I will enjoy reading.

/Not a partisan either way. Taken a vow to not participate in organized crime. But I sorta enjoy this circus.


I don't really have any other insight, just my opinion. I just think that's how it will go down.

04 Nov 2012 09:31 AM
Britney Spear's Speculum     
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04 Nov 2012 09:36 AM
WelldeadLink     
It's good to know that if you have no electricity and no computer that you can vote by email.

04 Nov 2012 09:37 AM
lewismarktwo     
Saturday Night Live

byelii: Richard_The_Clown: Morgellons: Richard_The_Clown: But I can't see someone like Rush or Hannity saying the election was stolen. They'll accept the results and move on.

that's a clown comment bro.


Agreed.

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Rush will say or do anything he thinks will reel in more conservatards. He is a parody of himself. 
/but you knew that already

04 Nov 2012 09:38 AM
Benjimin_Dover    [TotalFark]  

durbnpoisn: If the results in NJ are even close - especially if this state ends up being a deciding factor - This is going to be like that whole hanging chad incident, all over again.

I've often wondered how things in this world would have turned out if Bush's brother didn't break the law and hand him the election, thereby stripping Al Gore of the fair win. Hmmm....


Ah, the smell of revisionism in the morning... kinda makes your dick hard, doesn't it?

04 Nov 2012 09:50 AM
Rostin     

pciszek: Richard_The_Clown: I'm thinking that if Romney wins, we'll get reports like how thousands of people couldn't get out to vote because of all the devastation in the northeast. It will be another "stolen" election. However, if Obama wins, then it'll be "the system works, even in the face of such devastation."

Since it is almost entirely Blue states that were affected by the hurricane, yes.

If a disaster prevented the central plains states from voting, and Obama won, do you think there wouldn't be a stink over that?


I'm not saying you're both wrong, necessarily, because no one ever went broke overestimating the stupidity of people. But I think you might be confused about how the electoral college works. Poor voter turnout in a state doesn't alter the number of electors that state has, and in nearly all states, all the votes go to the candidate who won the popular vote. This means that voter turnout in New York relative to, say, Texas, is not directly relevant. Rather, voter turnout within each affected state would have to be depressed in a differential way. New Yorkers who would have voted for Obama would have to stay home in much greater numbers than Romney supporters in New York.

04 Nov 2012 10:10 AM
bmihura     
You people actually think your votes count?

OK, after the votes are tallied, try to find any proof that your vote was counted.

I didn't think so.

04 Nov 2012 10:14 AM
Mael99     

Morgellons: Richard_The_Clown: I'm thinking that if Romney wins, we'll get reports like how thousands of people couldn't get out to vote because of all the devastation in the northeast. It will be another "stolen" election. However, if Obama wins, then it'll be "the system works, even in the face of such devastation."

Or, you know, t' other way 'round...

(Would that be "what's good for the goose is good for the gander"?)


No, that would be "No matter what, we all lose."

04 Nov 2012 10:47 AM
pciszek     

Rostin: I'm not saying you're both wrong, necessarily, because no one ever went broke overestimating the stupidity of people. But I think you might be confused about how the electoral college works. Poor voter turnout in a state doesn't alter the number of electors that state has, and in nearly all states, all the votes go to the candidate who won the popular vote. This means that voter turnout in New York relative to, say, Texas, is not directly relevant. Rather, voter turnout within each affected state would have to be depressed in a differential way. New Yorkers who would have voted for Obama would have to stay home in much greater numbers than Romney supporters in New York.


Poor turnout, especially if there is a mechanism to make it unequally distributed, makes it easier to swing things one way or the other. New York City got it worse than upstate New York, and even within NYC downtown was without power longer than uptown. There was just an announcement that New Jerseyites will be allowed to vote via e-mail or fax--that's not going to help people who are without power, or who never had home internet in the first place.

I can't offhand think of a comparable example for red states, but consider that Omaha voted for Obama in 2008 while the rest of Nebraska went for McCain. Find some way to keep the rural dwellers away from the pools, and you could turn Nebraska blue. Here in Colorado, Denver and Boulder (and I suspect Fort Collins as well) are Blue, the rest of the state is kind of red.

04 Nov 2012 10:56 AM
BigNumber12     

bmihura: You people actually think your votes count?

OK, after the votes are tallied, try to find any proof that your vote was counted.

I didn't think so.



If I can't watch it happen in person, and don't understand it, it's impossible! The Moon Landing was faked! Thermite in the Towers! Powered flight is caused by sorcery! The Nazis couldn't possibly have killed that many people! Waaaaaaaa!

The world must seem bright and scary outside the tiny window of your fortified basement. Don't worry, though. Other people will be going out into the world and doing important things that make a difference.

04 Nov 2012 11:04 AM
rayvenwolfe     

pciszek: Rostin: I'm not saying you're both wrong, necessarily, because no one ever went broke overestimating the stupidity of people. But I think you might be confused about how the electoral college works. Poor voter turnout in a state doesn't alter the number of electors that state has, and in nearly all states, all the votes go to the candidate who won the popular vote. This means that voter turnout in New York relative to, say, Texas, is not directly relevant. Rather, voter turnout within each affected state would have to be depressed in a differential way. New Yorkers who would have voted for Obama would have to stay home in much greater numbers than Romney supporters in New York.

Poor turnout, especially if there is a mechanism to make it unequally distributed, makes it easier to swing things one way or the other. New York City got it worse than upstate New York, and even within NYC downtown was without power longer than uptown. There was just an announcement that New Jerseyites will be allowed to vote via e-mail or fax--that's not going to help people who are without power, or who never had home internet in the first place.

I can't offhand think of a comparable example for red states, but consider that Omaha voted for Obama in 2008 while the rest of Nebraska went for McCain. Find some way to keep the rural dwellers away from the pools, and you could turn Nebraska blue. Here in Colorado, Denver and Boulder (and I suspect Fort Collins as well) are Blue, the rest of the state is kind of red.


I am noticing quite a few people on various social networking sites "tweeting" that they are still without power. If they still have cell phones charged, they might still be able to use their email.

Also, all bank branches, libraries and hotels tend to have fax machines. If the internet is down but they still have power, I can see them providing fax service to the population.

04 Nov 2012 11:15 AM
BigNumber12     

pciszek: I can't offhand think of a comparable example for red states, but consider that Omaha voted for Obama in 2008 while the rest of Nebraska went for McCain. Find some way to keep the rural dwellers away from the pools, and you could turn Nebraska blue. Here in Colorado, Denver and Boulder (and I suspect Fort Collins as well)


Are you nuts? Everyone I've ever known from CSU has been marginally- to exceedingly-right-leaning.


Now that I look it up, it looks like that district's pretty evenly split. But they did vote Bush-Bush-McCain.

04 Nov 2012 11:16 AM
pciszek     

rayvenwolfe: I am noticing quite a few people on various social networking sites "tweeting" that they are still without power. If they still have cell phones charged, they might still be able to use their email.

Also, all bank branches, libraries and hotels tend to have fax machines. If the internet is down but they still have power, I can see them providing fax service to the population.


And this won't result in a socio-economic shift in turnout?

04 Nov 2012 11:29 AM
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