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05 Nov 2012 11:37 PM   |   11222 clicks   |   The Consumerist
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yukichigai     
Alright, so if I'm reading this right, there's no complaints of overzealous ticketing, erroneous tickets, or even complaints that the speed limit is too low. All I'm seeing is a bunch of people complaining that the HOA is enforcing the speed limit they set on the property they own.

This is probably the only time I will ever say this in a FARK thread, but I'm siding with the HOA on this one. It's a residential area, jerkwads, follow the speed limit. Leave the speeding for the freeway.

05 Nov 2012 05:40 PM
scottydoesntknow    [TotalFark]  

yukichigai: This is probably the only time I will ever say this in a FARK thread, but I'm siding with the HOA on this one. It's a residential area, jerkwads, follow the speed limit. Leave the speeding for the freeway.


My only question is where the money will be going. If 100% of it is being pumped right back into the neighborhood, then that's not bad. But if even a cent is lining the pockets of the HOA board or the camera/ticket company, then they can fark off. I won't have them get rich because the HOA doesn't feel like hiring an actual patrol .

Too many of the stories about runaway HOAs involve residents who take issue with a new rule after it's been enacted. If you're going to pay dues to be part of an HOA, you might as well take part in how it governs your neighborhood.

And this.

05 Nov 2012 05:50 PM
yukichigai     

scottydoesntknow: My only question is where the money will be going. If 100% of it is being pumped right back into the neighborhood, then that's not bad. But if even a cent is lining the pockets of the HOA board or the camera/ticket company, then they can fark off. I won't have them get rich because the HOA doesn't feel like hiring an actual patrol .


Yeah, there is that concern, but I'm seeing NONE of the warning signs that this is the case here. Biggest giveaway being that it's a Consumerist link and it actually comes off as neutral.

Also, what do you mean "hiring an actual patrol"? I don't think that would be any better, since presumably the patrol would have to be paid, and that pay would likely come in part from the tickets they write, etc. etc. The cops can't patrol there since it's all private property, as the article established.

05 Nov 2012 06:13 PM
cannotsuggestaname    [TotalFark]  
way too much potential for abuse.

1.Go get some of the local kids to come to that neighborhood and speed through it
2. Have them claim they are there to visit with the HOA President.
3. Profit

05 Nov 2012 07:06 PM
ZAZ    [TotalFark]  
My first greenlight on Fark, all those years ago, was a story about a couple being punished by their HOA because their guest didn't pay a ticket. Some things never change.

05 Nov 2012 08:35 PM
Peter von Nostrand    [TotalFark]  
Yeah, this isn't new

05 Nov 2012 08:49 PM
Tr0mBoNe    [TotalFark]  
1) Aim the same model unit at the detector and confuse the hell out of it.
2) Wait for a ticket that says you're traveling at the speed of light.
3) Profit.

05 Nov 2012 08:52 PM
Ambivalence    [TotalFark]  
It's always colorado it seems. It's like Colorado is hthe Mecca of the HOA nazis.

05 Nov 2012 08:55 PM
jaylectricity    [TotalFark]  
Most important part of this article:

So if residents believe that their HOA's actions are too restrictive or cross a legal line, they need to become more involved. Too many of the stories about runaway HOAs involve residents who take issue with a new rule after it's been enacted. If you're going to pay dues to be part of an HOA, you might as well take part in how it governs your neighborhood.

It's your own fault that you pay an HOA to do stuff and you don't go have a say in what rules will be enforced. Turn the TV off for an hour and go to the meeting.

05 Nov 2012 09:19 PM
John Buck 41    [TotalFark]  

yukichigai: Alright, so if I'm reading this right, there's no complaints of overzealous ticketing, erroneous tickets, or even complaints that the speed limit is too low. All I'm seeing is a bunch of people complaining that the HOA is enforcing the speed limit they set on the property they own.

This is probably the only time I will ever say this in a FARK thread, but I'm siding with the HOA on this one. It's a residential area, jerkwads, follow the speed limit. Leave the speeding for the freeway.


I'd agree with following the speed limits but I'll be DAMNED if I should have to pay guests' fines. FTS.

05 Nov 2012 09:34 PM
BarkingUnicorn     

John Buck 41: yukichigai: Alright, so if I'm reading this right, there's no complaints of overzealous ticketing, erroneous tickets, or even complaints that the speed limit is too low. All I'm seeing is a bunch of people complaining that the HOA is enforcing the speed limit they set on the property they own.

This is probably the only time I will ever say this in a FARK thread, but I'm siding with the HOA on this one. It's a residential area, jerkwads, follow the speed limit. Leave the speeding for the freeway.

I'd agree with following the speed limits but I'll be DAMNED if I should have to pay guests' fines. FTS.


Tell your guests to pay you back. If they don't, go see Judge Judy.

05 Nov 2012 10:29 PM
davidphogan     
Why would anyone live in an HOA neighborhood?

05 Nov 2012 11:41 PM
Apos     
I loathe HOAs. This is why.

05 Nov 2012 11:41 PM
Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom     
I'll never understand why someone would buy a home in an HOA and then biatch about the HOA. The HOA president/board can change annually, as can the bylaws. Don't be shocked when they pass or enforce a rule you don't like.

05 Nov 2012 11:41 PM
The more you eat the more you fart     
Problem: How does an HOA have the authority to issue speeding tickets?

So if I own a large portion of property, I can issue tickets to people who speed on the road infront of my property?

05 Nov 2012 11:42 PM
I sound fat     

yukichigai: Alright, so if I'm reading this right, there's no complaints of overzealous ticketing, erroneous tickets, or even complaints that the speed limit is too low. All I'm seeing is a bunch of people complaining that the HOA is enforcing the speed limit they set on the property they own.

This is probably the only time I will ever say this in a FARK thread, but I'm siding with the HOA on this one. It's a residential area, jerkwads, follow the speed limit. Leave the speeding for the freeway.


Me too. HOAs are horrible, but if NO ONE enforces the speed limit, things get ugly.

05 Nov 2012 11:43 PM
Mugato    [TotalFark]  
How is the accuracy of the speed detectors verified?

05 Nov 2012 11:43 PM
jst3p    [TotalFark]  

Ambivalence: It's always colorado it seems. It's like Colorado is hthe Mecca of the HOA nazis.


I remember in one of these threads we estimated the number of homes in the Denver Metro and divided by number of HOA complaints in a year (there is some organization set up to handle HOA complaints, it was mentioned in the article of the thread we did this in) and it turned out that there are less than one complaint per year per several thousand (8 I think) homes in an HOA. I now own two homes that are in HOAs in the area and I haven't had nor heard of any problems. I understand the potential for abuse exists but the "evil HOA" is like the Republican version of the welfare queen. Sure they exist, but not NEARLY as common as some would have you believe.

05 Nov 2012 11:44 PM
Shvetz     
This really doesn't sound all that crazy. They quoted one woman saying she was almost hit twice, but still thinks the police should be issuing tickets. Except they can't on private property. If they're giving out $15 tickets for drive 40 in a 30, it's not exactly fascism. As for making you pay your visitor's tickets, you are always responsible for your visitor's actions. Don't invite jerks into your gated community. If somebody is a reckless driver, I wouldn't want them driving around my neighborhood.

05 Nov 2012 11:45 PM
ubernostrum     
Step 1: Arrange for a lot of people who like to drive fast to visit the president of the HOA.

Step 2: "Homeowner pays visitor's ticket" policy is gone within a week.

Step 3: Throw a nice party with all the money collected for the neighborhood from the president's tickets.

05 Nov 2012 11:45 PM
The more you eat the more you fart     

I sound fat: yukichigai: Alright, so if I'm reading this right, there's no complaints of overzealous ticketing, erroneous tickets, or even complaints that the speed limit is too low. All I'm seeing is a bunch of people complaining that the HOA is enforcing the speed limit they set on the property they own.

This is probably the only time I will ever say this in a FARK thread, but I'm siding with the HOA on this one. It's a residential area, jerkwads, follow the speed limit. Leave the speeding for the freeway.

Me too. HOAs are horrible, but if NO ONE enforces the speed limit, things get ugly.


Isn't that what the police are for???

Fiancee lives in a neighborhood with an HOA. The police patrol there.

The property belongs to the homeowners. The neighborhood is governed by the HOA. The roads in the neighborhood belong to the city, and therefore, the police are responsible for issuing tickets to speeders.

05 Nov 2012 11:46 PM
Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom     

Mugato: How is the accuracy of the speed detectors verified?


Depends on the age difference between the driver and the person doing the enforcement. The person responsible for issuing tickets is probably 80, thus anyone under 30 looks like they're speeding.

05 Nov 2012 11:46 PM
jst3p    [TotalFark]  

davidphogan: Why would anyone live in an HOA neighborhood?


Some of us like having snow removal, common areas cared for and likeminded homeowners nearby that wont fark up my property value. I am not saying everyone should live in one, but some of us don't mind.

05 Nov 2012 11:46 PM
Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom     

The more you eat the more you fart: I sound fat: yukichigai: Alright, so if I'm reading this right, there's no complaints of overzealous ticketing, erroneous tickets, or even complaints that the speed limit is too low. All I'm seeing is a bunch of people complaining that the HOA is enforcing the speed limit they set on the property they own.

This is probably the only time I will ever say this in a FARK thread, but I'm siding with the HOA on this one. It's a residential area, jerkwads, follow the speed limit. Leave the speeding for the freeway.

Me too. HOAs are horrible, but if NO ONE enforces the speed limit, things get ugly.

Isn't that what the police are for???

Fiancee lives in a neighborhood with an HOA. The police patrol there.

The property belongs to the homeowners. The neighborhood is governed by the HOA. The roads in the neighborhood belong to the city, and therefore, the police are responsible for issuing tickets to speeders.


RTFA - the roads are private, thus the police have no jurisdiction over traffic enforcement.

05 Nov 2012 11:47 PM
The more you eat the more you fart     

Mugato: How is the accuracy of the speed detectors verified?


Exactly. They have to calibrate them right?

05 Nov 2012 11:47 PM
danielscissorhands     
"an HOA," subby, really?

05 Nov 2012 11:48 PM
TheBlackFlag    [TotalFark]  

jst3p: davidphogan: Why would anyone live in an HOA neighborhood?

Some of us like having snow removal, common areas cared for and likeminded homeowners nearby that wont fark up my property value. I am not saying everyone should live in one, but some of us don't mind.


I am sure people that join cults use the same reasoning.

Are you a Scientologist as well?

05 Nov 2012 11:48 PM
The more you eat the more you fart     

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: The more you eat the more you fart: I sound fat: yukichigai: Alright, so if I'm reading this right, there's no complaints of overzealous ticketing, erroneous tickets, or even complaints that the speed limit is too low. All I'm seeing is a bunch of people complaining that the HOA is enforcing the speed limit they set on the property they own.

This is probably the only time I will ever say this in a FARK thread, but I'm siding with the HOA on this one. It's a residential area, jerkwads, follow the speed limit. Leave the speeding for the freeway.

Me too. HOAs are horrible, but if NO ONE enforces the speed limit, things get ugly.

Isn't that what the police are for???

Fiancee lives in a neighborhood with an HOA. The police patrol there.

The property belongs to the homeowners. The neighborhood is governed by the HOA. The roads in the neighborhood belong to the city, and therefore, the police are responsible for issuing tickets to speeders.

RTFA - the roads are private, thus the police have no jurisdiction over traffic enforcement.



I didnt feel like RTFA. Still, to my knowledge, only law enforcement officers have the "power" to issue speeding tickets.

05 Nov 2012 11:49 PM
Rat     

ZAZ: My first greenlight on Fark, all those years ago, was a story about a couple being punished by their HOA because their guest didn't pay a ticket. Some things never change.


jeebus you make old people feel older

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05 Nov 2012 11:49 PM
jst3p    [TotalFark]  

TheBlackFlag: jst3p: davidphogan: Why would anyone live in an HOA neighborhood?

Some of us like having snow removal, common areas cared for and likeminded homeowners nearby that wont fark up my property value. I am not saying everyone should live in one, but some of us don't mind.

I am sure people that join cults use the same reasoning.

Are you a Scientologist as well?


People join cults to make sure snow removal is done, common areas are cared for and property value is maintained? Are you high?

05 Nov 2012 11:50 PM
TheBlackFlag    [TotalFark]  

danielscissorhands: "an HOA," subby, really?


The NUMBER #1 unwritten rule for grammar Nazis is that you BE RIGHT. For your sake, I hope english is your 2nd language.

05 Nov 2012 11:50 PM
illannoyin     
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05 Nov 2012 11:50 PM
Jonny.the.Q     
What if you're riding a bicycle? I could easily hit 30mph. Okay, not incredibly easy but with a bit of work. Also, HOAs suck

05 Nov 2012 11:50 PM
Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom     

The more you eat the more you fart: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: The more you eat the more you fart: I sound fat: yukichigai: Alright, so if I'm reading this right, there's no complaints of overzealous ticketing, erroneous tickets, or even complaints that the speed limit is too low. All I'm seeing is a bunch of people complaining that the HOA is enforcing the speed limit they set on the property they own.

This is probably the only time I will ever say this in a FARK thread, but I'm siding with the HOA on this one. It's a residential area, jerkwads, follow the speed limit. Leave the speeding for the freeway.

Me too. HOAs are horrible, but if NO ONE enforces the speed limit, things get ugly.

Isn't that what the police are for???

Fiancee lives in a neighborhood with an HOA. The police patrol there.

The property belongs to the homeowners. The neighborhood is governed by the HOA. The roads in the neighborhood belong to the city, and therefore, the police are responsible for issuing tickets to speeders.

RTFA - the roads are private, thus the police have no jurisdiction over traffic enforcement.


I didnt feel like RTFA. Still, to my knowledge, only law enforcement officers have the "power" to issue speeding tickets.


If you felt like reading more, you probably wouldn't be posting so many ill informed statements on the interwebs. Just sayin

05 Nov 2012 11:51 PM
HotWingAgenda    [TotalFark]  
So you can visit this HOA to burglarize houses and dropkick people's precious little toy dogs, since local law enforcement has officially declared that they can't enforce the law on that property?

Somehow this reminds me of the franchise burbclaves from Snow Crash.

05 Nov 2012 11:51 PM
kombi     
Courts have rulled that issuing tickets or in the case where I live private company's booting cars violate the constitution by imposing fines and not being able to confront your accuser. The HOA will have to set up there own traffic court and be overseen by the state. Sounds like a big pain in the ass to me. But I think the whole idea of a HOA being able to do anything to you is illegal.

Someone just has to introduce a proposition like we did in Utah where state highway laws can be enforced on private property.

05 Nov 2012 11:51 PM
Harbinger of the Doomed Rat     
The problems I see with this are threefold:

1) An HOA is not a law enforcement agency.
2) An HOA is not a law enforcement agency.
3) An HOA is not a law enforcement agency.

I think that pretty much covers it.

/HOAs are where closet fascists go to live their dreams of controlling other people's lives.

05 Nov 2012 11:52 PM
idsfa     

jst3p: Some of us like having snow removal, common areas cared for and likeminded homeowners nearby that wont fark up my property value. I am not saying everyone should live in one, but some of us don't mind.


And what the adults do is get to know our neighbors and talk to them if we have a problem instead of being passive-aggressive farkwits.

05 Nov 2012 11:52 PM
poot_rootbeer     
Why don't they just put in a giant speed bump every 10 feet along all the roads, like in every HOA-controlled subdivision I've ever visited?

05 Nov 2012 11:52 PM
jst3p    [TotalFark]  

HotWingAgenda: So you can visit this HOA to burglarize houses and dropkick people's precious little toy dogs, since local law enforcement has officially declared that they can't enforce the law on that property?

Somehow this reminds me of the franchise burbclaves from Snow Crash.


Enforcing traffic laws and enforcing criminal law are two different things. Try getting a cop to give someone a ticket for running a stop sign in a supermarket parking lot. Be prepared for laughter.

05 Nov 2012 11:52 PM
Harry_Seldon     
I don't necessarily like an HOA, but Oregon residents are not very good at taxing themselves for local services, and I hate living in a neighborhood that people don't take care of their property. This especially happens in neighborhoods with a high number of rental homes.

I pay about $300/yr for common areas, and $40/month for landscaping maintenance for my yard. The neighborhood is well kept, we have nice parks, and green spaces, and cars are not parked up and down the streets. If you don't like it, don't buy into it.

05 Nov 2012 11:53 PM
LazerFish     
speed bumps would be more effective

05 Nov 2012 11:53 PM
The more you eat the more you fart     

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: The more you eat the more you fart: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: The more you eat the more you fart: I sound fat: yukichigai: Alright, so if I'm reading this right, there's no complaints of overzealous ticketing, erroneous tickets, or even complaints that the speed limit is too low. All I'm seeing is a bunch of people complaining that the HOA is enforcing the speed limit they set on the property they own.

This is probably the only time I will ever say this in a FARK thread, but I'm siding with the HOA on this one. It's a residential area, jerkwads, follow the speed limit. Leave the speeding for the freeway.

Me too. HOAs are horrible, but if NO ONE enforces the speed limit, things get ugly.

Isn't that what the police are for???

Fiancee lives in a neighborhood with an HOA. The police patrol there.

The property belongs to the homeowners. The neighborhood is governed by the HOA. The roads in the neighborhood belong to the city, and therefore, the police are responsible for issuing tickets to speeders.

RTFA - the roads are private, thus the police have no jurisdiction over traffic enforcement.


I didnt feel like RTFA. Still, to my knowledge, only law enforcement officers have the "power" to issue speeding tickets.

If you felt like reading more, you probably wouldn't be posting so many ill informed statements on the interwebs. Just sayin


Meh. What I said wasn't wrong. HOA's aren't law enforcement. How do they have the authority to issue speeding citations?

05 Nov 2012 11:53 PM
AdrienVeidt     
To issue official government tickets, yes. But any fool can run off a form and enforce whatever rules they want on their property.

05 Nov 2012 11:54 PM
poot_rootbeer     

jst3p: Some of us like having snow removal, common areas cared for and likeminded homeowners nearby that wont fark up my property value.


Where I'm from we call that "a neighborhood".

05 Nov 2012 11:54 PM
Teufelaffe     

jst3p: davidphogan: Why would anyone live in an HOA neighborhood?

Some of us like having snow removal, common areas cared for and likeminded homeowners nearby that wont fark up my property value. I am not saying everyone should live in one, but some of us don't mind.


And all of those are possible without an HOA. Just sayin'.

05 Nov 2012 11:54 PM
kombi     
You know what's next. HOA printing there own money. Just watch.

05 Nov 2012 11:56 PM
jst3p    [TotalFark]  

idsfa: jst3p: Some of us like having snow removal, common areas cared for and likeminded homeowners nearby that wont fark up my property value. I am not saying everyone should live in one, but some of us don't mind.

And what the adults do is get to know our neighbors and talk to them if we have a problem instead of being passive-aggressive farkwits.


Problem is it only takes a couple of non adults to fark up a street. Your way is nice in theory, but not so hot in practice. Like I said, it isn't for everyone but if some of us don't mind why would that bother you? Insults because I am fine with an HOA? And I am the one who isn't an adult here. You are cute!

05 Nov 2012 11:56 PM
Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom     

The more you eat the more you fart: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: The more you eat the more you fart: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: The more you eat the more you fart: I sound fat: yukichigai: Alright, so if I'm reading this right, there's no complaints of overzealous ticketing, erroneous tickets, or even complaints that the speed limit is too low. All I'm seeing is a bunch of people complaining that the HOA is enforcing the speed limit they set on the property they own.

This is probably the only time I will ever say this in a FARK thread, but I'm siding with the HOA on this one. It's a residential area, jerkwads, follow the speed limit. Leave the speeding for the freeway.

Me too. HOAs are horrible, but if NO ONE enforces the speed limit, things get ugly.

Isn't that what the police are for???

Fiancee lives in a neighborhood with an HOA. The police patrol there.

The property belongs to the homeowners. The neighborhood is governed by the HOA. The roads in the neighborhood belong to the city, and therefore, the police are responsible for issuing tickets to speeders.

RTFA - the roads are private, thus the police have no jurisdiction over traffic enforcement.


I didnt feel like RTFA. Still, to my knowledge, only law enforcement officers have the "power" to issue speeding tickets.

If you felt like reading more, you probably wouldn't be posting so many ill informed statements on the interwebs. Just sayin

Meh. What I said wasn't wrong. HOA's aren't law enforcement. How do they have the authority to issue speeding citations?


HOA's are able to issue fines to properties within their covenants. They aren't issuing speeding tickets, they're fining properties.

Don't take this the wrong way, but are you a teenager?

05 Nov 2012 11:57 PM
jst3p    [TotalFark]  

Teufelaffe: jst3p: davidphogan: Why would anyone live in an HOA neighborhood?

Some of us like having snow removal, common areas cared for and likeminded homeowners nearby that wont fark up my property value. I am not saying everyone should live in one, but some of us don't mind.

And all of those are possible without an HOA. Just sayin'.


Sure they are, HOA is just one method. And it is a method that me and everyone who lives on this golf course is OK with. I never said it was the only way, just that it doesn't bother me.

05 Nov 2012 11:57 PM
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