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06 Nov 2012 05:40 AM   |   14078 clicks   |   Houston Press
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Asa Phelps    [TotalFark]  
Gotta at least find something the same weight, n00b.

06 Nov 2012 12:23 AM
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Radak    [TotalFark]  

Asa Phelps: Gotta at least find something the same weight, n00b.


Did you RTFA? Weight had nothing to do with this. He swapped barcodes.

I'd say he should be mortified at being compared to Baldrick, but I suspect the comparison is lost on this one.

06 Nov 2012 01:24 AM
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CheddarPants     

Radak: Asa Phelps: Gotta at least find something the same weight, n00b.

Did you RTFA? Weight had nothing to do with this. He swapped barcodes.

I'd say he should be mortified at being compared to Baldrick, but I suspect the comparison is lost on this one.


Actually, weight has everything to do with it. The self checkouts have pre-assigned weights for every UPC in the system, The key to fooling the self checkout is to replace the UPC of an expensive item with the UPC of an inexpensive item that weighs about the same. When the weights are different, it calls for a cashier intervention.

06 Nov 2012 01:33 AM
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Radak    [TotalFark]  

CheddarPants: Actually, weight has everything to do with it. The self checkouts have pre-assigned weights for every UPC in the system


Aha! I did not know this about self-checkouts (we don't have them here), and I didn't notice in the article that it said it was self-checkout. Mea culpa!

06 Nov 2012 01:52 AM
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CheddarPants     

Radak: CheddarPants: Actually, weight has everything to do with it. The self checkouts have pre-assigned weights for every UPC in the system

Aha! I did not know this about self-checkouts (we don't have them here), and I didn't notice in the article that it said it was self-checkout. Mea culpa!


Good save.

06 Nov 2012 02:21 AM
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433    [TotalFark]  
Some where in my house in a drawer or box is a receipt from Walmart for the purchase of a CD by the group Crystal Method. The receipt, however, shows that in 1997, I bought crystal meth for 9.99 from Walmart.

06 Nov 2012 02:29 AM
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gopher321    [TotalFark]  
ke a TV worth $228 and put it in a cart.
2. Take off the TV's real barcode and replace it with one valued at $1.17 and take it through a self-checkout line.
3. ????
4. Profit!


Looks like the article writer is also a Farker.

06 Nov 2012 05:46 AM
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Feral_and_Preposterous     
Destruction of writing? 78% of you farkers deserve some serious jail time, then.

06 Nov 2012 05:58 AM
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Disgruntled Goat     
Things Fark frowns upon: copy-paste headlines.

Or it used to, anyhow. Nowadays it seems about a quarter of greenlights are simply parrots of the article's headline.

06 Nov 2012 05:59 AM
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Mr. Coffee Nerves    [TotalFark]  
To be fair, that's probably what Walmart paid for it wholesale.

06 Nov 2012 06:03 AM
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Bedurndurn     
Wouldn't you just not scan it if you're trying to steal it? Really the best kind of dumb criminal is the dumb elaborate plan criminal.

06 Nov 2012 06:07 AM
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Prank Call of Cthulhu     
Walmart. It figures. I had the same thing happen to me once at Taco Bell when I tried to pay for something with a $2 bill...

06 Nov 2012 06:07 AM
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ArcadianRefugee     

gopher321: ke a TV worth $228 and put it in a cart.
2. Take off the TV's real barcode and replace it with one valued at $1.17 and take it through a self-checkout line.
3. ????
4. Profit!

Looks like the article writer is also a Farker.


Or watches South Park.

06 Nov 2012 06:08 AM
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Matthew Keene     
I wouldn't even want a television that retails for $228, let alone risk jail for trying to steal one. BTW, studies show self checkouts have over 300% higher theft per dollar spent than regular checkouts, because cashiers just authorize the red flags without looking most of the time.

06 Nov 2012 06:09 AM
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abhorrent1     
Did he get a coupon from a 4cham thread?

06 Nov 2012 06:09 AM
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Haliburton Cummings     

CheddarPants: Radak: Asa Phelps: Gotta at least find something the same weight, n00b.

Did you RTFA? Weight had nothing to do with this. He swapped barcodes.

I'd say he should be mortified at being compared to Baldrick, but I suspect the comparison is lost on this one.

Actually, weight has everything to do with it. The self checkouts have pre-assigned weights for every UPC in the system, The key to fooling the self checkout is to replace the UPC of an expensive item with the UPC of an inexpensive item that weighs about the same. When the weights are different, it calls for a cashier intervention.


YOU MADE THAT UP HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

/busted

06 Nov 2012 06:14 AM
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Ghryswald     
While it's unlikely that weight was a factor here because there's no way a TV fits on the tiny bagging stands, the weight in the database does affect self-checkout in most places when an item is placed in the bagging area.

06 Nov 2012 06:20 AM
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Honest Bender    [TotalFark]  

CheddarPants: Actually, weight has everything to do with it. The self checkouts have pre-assigned weights for every UPC in the system, The key to fooling the self checkout is to replace the UPC of an expensive item with the UPC of an inexpensive item that weighs about the same. When the weights are different, it calls for a cashier intervention.


Or just don't put it on the scaled bagging area and hit the "Skip Bagging" button when it pops up...

06 Nov 2012 06:24 AM
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Flint Ironstag     
I used to work for a Best Buy type store here and had someone try that with a coffee machine. Peeled the sticker off a cheap model and stuck it on the top of the range model from the same make and then try to buy it. Buy because I had a reasonable idea of what those models cost I spotted it.
I've often thought this idea, printing your own barcode sticker, would work in places like hardware stores with lots of really weird stuff that a cashier would not know off the top of their head. Or I guess find a clueless teen who doesn't care and just rings it up and takes the money.

06 Nov 2012 06:38 AM
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SkunkWerks     
Everything is bigger in Texas.

Except the prices on TVs.

What? You didn't know?

06 Nov 2012 06:42 AM
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SockMonkeyHolocaust     
Anyone who has ever taken Journalism 101 would frown on that dumb opening paragraph.

06 Nov 2012 06:42 AM
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OhioUGrad     

Asa Phelps: Gotta at least find something the same weight, n00b.


Could have found a slightly smaller TV at possibly half the price (same manufacturer) and done it that way.....sure it's not $1.17, but half off would be a bargain.

06 Nov 2012 06:46 AM
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Joce678     

Radak: Asa Phelps: Gotta at least find something the same weight, n00b.

Did you RTFA? Weight had nothing to do with this. He swapped barcodes.


Around here you have to put the article on some scales when you swipe the barcode. The item's weight has to match the code.

06 Nov 2012 06:48 AM
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stonicus     

CheddarPants: Radak: Asa Phelps: Gotta at least find something the same weight, n00b.

Did you RTFA? Weight had nothing to do with this. He swapped barcodes.

I'd say he should be mortified at being compared to Baldrick, but I suspect the comparison is lost on this one.

Actually, weight has everything to do with it. The self checkouts have pre-assigned weights for every UPC in the system, The key to fooling the self checkout is to replace the UPC of an expensive item with the UPC of an inexpensive item that weighs about the same. When the weights are different, it calls for a cashier intervention.


Just do the old "Do I need to take this out of the cart?" They will usually walk around and just scan it. Weight problem solved.

06 Nov 2012 06:53 AM
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smitty04     

06 Nov 2012 07:04 AM
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BigBooper     

Flint Ironstag: I used to work for a Best Buy type store here and had someone try that with a coffee machine. Peeled the sticker off a cheap model and stuck it on the top of the range model from the same make and then try to buy it. Buy because I had a reasonable idea of what those models cost I spotted it.
I've often thought this idea, printing your own barcode sticker, would work in places like hardware stores with lots of really weird stuff that a cashier would not know off the top of their head. Or I guess find a clueless teen who doesn't care and just rings it up and takes the money.


When I worked at Best Buy 100 years ago, the favorite tactic was to buy a hard drive, video card, or the like, stick a old one in the new box, and then try to return it. Most of the time, the people at the service desk wouldn't even look in the box, and if they did, they would see something in the box, and not have a clue that what they were looking at wasn't right. They finally started having someone from the computer department come up to check out the more expensive stuff. It's real easy to catch someone if your trying to return an old Western Digital drive in a Segate box.

Back then Best Buy didn't track things very well, and the people who would get away with things were the guys who would buy a high end desk top, strip out some of the components, and then return it as DOA. They didn't have us open the case, so the computer would end up going back the manufacturer, and any theft wasn't discovered for months. As far as I know, no one was caught doing this. I'm guessing they track these things better these days.

06 Nov 2012 07:05 AM
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metaskie     
The scale at self check is not designed for TVs. So no, weight has jack and shiat to do with anything. This was most likely the LP team knowing the guy from previous stops, so they watched him all the way through the store.

06 Nov 2012 07:07 AM
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Raging Thespian    [TotalFark]  
He wouldn't have gotten caught except he tried to pay with a $2 bill.

06 Nov 2012 07:21 AM
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Mister Peejay     

BigBooper: When I worked at Best Buy 100 years ago, the favorite tactic was to buy a hard drive, video card, or the like, stick a old one in the new box, and then try to return it.


Place I worked at years back had a side business as an auto-parts supplier.

One shop was ordering spark plugs, then returning them as new stock. They were taking the spark plugs out and replacing them with wheel weights. The boxes would rattle and feel the right weight, and nobody was thinking to open up a package of six or eight individually boxes plugs. Unfortunately, for them, their tactic of stealing expensive, low-volume parts was that they were the only place to order a certain part number since the last time stock was replenished. Busted.

/have heard of the old "brick in a starter box" trick as well

06 Nov 2012 07:24 AM
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Dead for Tax Reasons     

CheddarPants: Radak: Asa Phelps: Gotta at least find something the same weight, n00b.

Did you RTFA? Weight had nothing to do with this. He swapped barcodes.

I'd say he should be mortified at being compared to Baldrick, but I suspect the comparison is lost on this one.

Actually, weight has everything to do with it. The self checkouts have pre-assigned weights for every UPC in the system, The key to fooling the self checkout is to replace the UPC of an expensive item with the UPC of an inexpensive item that weighs about the same. When the weights are different, it calls for a cashier intervention.


How does that work when you just wave it in front of the scanner and it doesn't touch anything?

06 Nov 2012 07:25 AM
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maggoo     
You have to admire the guy's ambitions.

06 Nov 2012 07:30 AM
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farkingatwork     

Dead for Tax Reasons: CheddarPants: Radak: Asa Phelps: Gotta at least find something the same weight, n00b.

Did you RTFA? Weight had nothing to do with this. He swapped barcodes.

I'd say he should be mortified at being compared to Baldrick, but I suspect the comparison is lost on this one.

Actually, weight has everything to do with it. The self checkouts have pre-assigned weights for every UPC in the system, The key to fooling the self checkout is to replace the UPC of an expensive item with the UPC of an inexpensive item that weighs about the same. When the weights are different, it calls for a cashier intervention.

How does that work when you just wave it in front of the scanner and it doesn't touch anything?


When you put it in the bag, doofus. You don't scan and put it back in the cart, you put it in a bag, which has another weight underneath it.

06 Nov 2012 07:31 AM
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stonicus     

Dead for Tax Reasons: CheddarPants: Radak: Asa Phelps: Gotta at least find something the same weight, n00b.

Did you RTFA? Weight had nothing to do with this. He swapped barcodes.

I'd say he should be mortified at being compared to Baldrick, but I suspect the comparison is lost on this one.

Actually, weight has everything to do with it. The self checkouts have pre-assigned weights for every UPC in the system, The key to fooling the self checkout is to replace the UPC of an expensive item with the UPC of an inexpensive item that weighs about the same. When the weights are different, it calls for a cashier intervention.

How does that work when you just wave it in front of the scanner and it doesn't touch anything?


I missed that also when I read the article... apparently he was using the self checkout lanes which do make you place the item on a scale/bagging area.

06 Nov 2012 07:31 AM
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I sound fat     

Radak: CheddarPants: Actually, weight has everything to do with it. The self checkouts have pre-assigned weights for every UPC in the system

Aha! I did not know this about self-checkouts (we don't have them here), and I didn't notice in the article that it said it was self-checkout. Mea culpa!


Having purchased 2 TVs at walmart, im pretty sure neither were weighed. they aren't apples.... They stay in the cart and get scanned with a hand scanner.

The problem was he tried a 2 dollar item instead of something that might reasonably be a price for a TV.

that said, I think if you were caught, you could get away with the "wasnt me", couldnt you?

06 Nov 2012 07:34 AM
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My_Other_Handle_Is_Taken     
The more common trick I would see people try while I was working at the self scan was to ring many objects, or one expensive object, in as bananas ($0.39/lb). It happened a lot with prepackaged deli meats.

06 Nov 2012 07:35 AM
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Dead for Tax Reasons     

farkingatwork: Dead for Tax Reasons: CheddarPants: Radak: Asa Phelps: Gotta at least find something the same weight, n00b.

Did you RTFA? Weight had nothing to do with this. He swapped barcodes.

I'd say he should be mortified at being compared to Baldrick, but I suspect the comparison is lost on this one.

Actually, weight has everything to do with it. The self checkouts have pre-assigned weights for every UPC in the system, The key to fooling the self checkout is to replace the UPC of an expensive item with the UPC of an inexpensive item that weighs about the same. When the weights are different, it calls for a cashier intervention.

How does that work when you just wave it in front of the scanner and it doesn't touch anything?

When you put it in the bag, doofus. You don't scan and put it back in the cart, you put it in a bag, which has another weight underneath it.


Sorry, jackass. I don't really use the self check, so I wouldn't really know

06 Nov 2012 07:45 AM
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LemSkroob     
used to do that with hockey sticks in places like Models. You take the sticker off the $20 street hockey stick, and then put it on the $100 graphite stick. Then you check out with the black cashier who wouldn't know any better, and as long as it rang up "hockey stick" it was good enough for them.

06 Nov 2012 07:46 AM
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MythDragon     
...class A misdemeanor destruction of writing...
dafuq?

Sometimes I feel the cops just add bullshiat charges for the fun of it. You want to charge him with (attempted) theft. Fine. Destruction of evidence? That seems a little sketchy. Article says he attempted to hide the tag. I don't see how that counts as 'destructed' unless he hid it in his butthole. Class A misdemeanor destruction of writing? What the hell is that? What writing did he destruct, and why was it so valuable to charge him with a crime that is punishable by up to a year in jail?

06 Nov 2012 07:50 AM
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Stantz     
This sorta kinda happened about a decade over here. In the infancy of DVD players, one of the first budget players was the Wharfdale 750, which sold for £170. Someone went into a supermarket and noticed that they were marked up as £1.70. He took the box to the checkout, had it scanned, and when they told him it was the full price, he conyested it, stating it was marked up at the lowe price. A manager went over to check, to see he was right, and according to the laws of the UK, they had to sell him the player for just under two quid.

He even got a clubcard point for it.

06 Nov 2012 07:59 AM
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Raithun     

MythDragon: Class A misdemeanor destruction of writing? What the hell is that?


Texas Penal Code, Sec. 32.47. FRAUDULENT DESTRUCTION, REMOVAL, OR CONCEALMENT OF WRITING.

(a) A person commits an offense if, with intent to defraud or harm another, he destroys, removes, conceals, alters, substitutes, or otherwise impairs the verity, legibility, or availability of a writing, other than a governmental record.

(b) For purposes of this section, "writing" includes:
[...]
(4) universal product codes, labels, price tags, or markings on goods.

06 Nov 2012 08:00 AM
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Crash Test Dumbass     
Not now, Murray. Not now, Murray. NOT NOW, MURRAY!

/nothing is obscure on fark

06 Nov 2012 08:29 AM
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safeinsane     

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Walmart. It figures. I had the same thing happen to me once at Taco Bell when I tried to pay for something with a $2 bill...


Ah, fnorgby...

06 Nov 2012 08:39 AM
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eas81     

Disgruntled Goat: Things Fark frowns upon: copy-paste headlines.

Or it used to, anyhow. Nowadays it seems about a quarter of greenlights are simply parrots of the article's headline.


To be fair they probably are written by Farkers.

06 Nov 2012 08:44 AM
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positive thinking does NOT work!     
I wonder what his Fatwallet id is?

06 Nov 2012 08:58 AM
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FoxKelfonne     
When I bought a TV from WalMart, not only did they have to go get it from the storage in the back, they also insisted on ringing me up right there in the electronics department. Then the manager wanted to check the receipt as I was leaving as well. Granted, this was at least 5-6 years ago by now, so perhaps their employees simply don't care anymore.

06 Nov 2012 09:45 AM
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Loren     

Radak: Asa Phelps: Gotta at least find something the same weight, n00b.

Did you RTFA? Weight had nothing to do with this. He swapped barcodes.

I'd say he should be mortified at being compared to Baldrick, but I suspect the comparison is lost on this one.


Weight certainly does have something to do with it. The TV won't weigh what the cheap item did and the scale will detect that.

Matthew Keene: I wouldn't even want a television that retails for $228, let alone risk jail for trying to steal one. BTW, studies show self checkouts have over 300% higher theft per dollar spent than regular checkouts, because cashiers just authorize the red flags without looking most of the time.


300% of what, though--how many people try to steal at the checkout?

Ghryswald: While it's unlikely that weight was a factor here because there's no way a TV fits on the tiny bagging stands, the weight in the database does affect self-checkout in most places when an item is placed in the bagging area.


If the item is too big to bag that's going to cause an exception--one with half a brain will realize that a big box doesn't cost $1.17.

Dead for Tax Reasons: How does that work when you just wave it in front of the scanner and it doesn't touch anything?


There's a scale under the place you bag your goods.

positive thinking does NOT work!: I wonder what his Fatwallet id is?


Someone posting such an idea there would probably get so much red the system broke.

06 Nov 2012 09:56 AM
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smitty04     

Loren: Dead for Tax Reasons: How does that work when you just wave it in front of the scanner and it doesn't touch anything?

There's a scale under the place you bag your goods.


Just place it in the cart and press the skip bagging button. I have often wondered if that gets someone's attention.

06 Nov 2012 10:04 AM
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aharown     
FTA: "Alas, poor Keltner was foiled by Walmart's loss prevention team, who took him to their office, where he allegedly attempted to hide the low-value price tag to no avail."


How does this not count as unlawful detention? Or even kidnapping? Even if they said "sir, can you come with me," and he went, the appearance of authority is going to make most people assume that they have to obey, even though they don't. Believing they have to obey will make most people obey. So even if he went "willingly," it's incredibly similar to the "age of consent" concept - even though a person believes they have consented, actually the power relationship between the two parties has stripped the question of consent out, it is no longer relevant.

I'm sure the guy is guilty, and I'm sure the guy's a douche. But so is Wal-mart. This is unlawful detention. fark 'em.

06 Nov 2012 10:08 AM
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smitty04     

aharown: FTA: "Alas, poor Keltner was foiled by Walmart's loss prevention team, who took him to their office, where he allegedly attempted to hide the low-value price tag to no avail."


How does this not count as unlawful detention? Or even kidnapping? Even if they said "sir, can you come with me," and he went, the appearance of authority is going to make most people assume that they have to obey, even though they don't. Believing they have to obey will make most people obey. So even if he went "willingly," it's incredibly similar to the "age of consent" concept - even though a person believes they have consented, actually the power relationship between the two parties has stripped the question of consent out, it is no longer relevant.

I'm sure the guy is guilty, and I'm sure the guy's a douche. But so is Wal-mart. This is unlawful detention. fark 'em.


A security guard has the general authority to detain someone if there is probable cause that shoplifting has occurred. However, this authority has some limitations. Any time a security guard stops a shopper, it must be for a reasonable time, and must be done in a reasonable manner.

06 Nov 2012 10:23 AM
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metaskie     

aharown: FTA: "Alas, poor Keltner was foiled by Walmart's loss prevention team, who took him to their office, where he allegedly attempted to hide the low-value price tag to no avail."


How does this not count as unlawful detention? Or even kidnapping? Even if they said "sir, can you come with me," and he went, the appearance of authority is going to make most people assume that they have to obey, even though they don't. Believing they have to obey will make most people obey. So even if he went "willingly," it's incredibly similar to the "age of consent" concept - even though a person believes they have consented, actually the power relationship between the two parties has stripped the question of consent out, it is no longer relevant.

I'm sure the guy is guilty, and I'm sure the guy's a douche. But so is Wal-mart. This is unlawful detention. fark 'em.


Loss prevention teams are in contact with local police on a daily basis. If there was some issue with *unlawful detainment* don't you think it would've been mentioned long before your armchair lawyering?

06 Nov 2012 11:04 AM
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