d) 63 year old woman that had been evicted and refused to leave and 24 people, one armed with a gun, that intended to actively resist efforts to remove her.

So subby, what should the cops have done? Does she get to live in the house for free? Should the cops have shrugged it off and said they weren't going to enforce the court order because it was unpopular?

You forgot about the idiot with the gun in his waistband subby.

In Before: GET OFF MAH LAWN!!!!!

I dunno...some of those old mountain ladies can be pretty damn mean when you try to take their prop'ty.

Why don't they just cut all of the utilities? They'll leave eventually.

Maybe it had something to do with the hostile activists, one of which was armed.

nekom: Why don't they just cut all of the utilities? They'll leave eventually.

Illegal to cut off utilities to the elderly and disabled.
Even if they are not supposed to be there.
She is in residence until she is NOT in residence, in real life and not on paper.

/local/state rules may apply.

I suspect the whole problem was caused by the Colorado Foreclosure Resistance Coalition.

q) A 63-year-old woman who is a sniper and has created a hostage situation in the woods and is hiding to avoid dis foreclosure.

CruiserTwelve: d) 63 year old woman that had been evicted and refused to leave and 24 people, one armed with a gun, that intended to actively resist efforts to remove her.

So subby, what should the cops have done? Does she get to live in the house for free? Should the cops have shrugged it off and said they weren't going to enforce the court order because it was unpopular?

Several problems here: 1.) It was not an actual gun; 2.) Police are [supposed to be] trained to react carefully, not flip out and go full-retard, and 3.) There's a seriously disproportionate application of justice here. If you don't believe me on that latter point, clock the response time of your local cops the next time your car windows get smashed. You'll be lucky to get one unit within two hours. This bank got a SWAT team, because God forbid some hippies make a stand and not get crushed for it.

nekom: Why don't they just cut all of the utilities? They'll leave eventually.


Actually they don't in many places. Now Colorado in the winter could possibly run some off eventually but MANY squatters will stay seemingly forever and live on propane and bottled water. But of course the bank should accept that forever in many people's eyes.

Never take a 63yr old lady lightly. They can be vicious.

oblig

"O'Connor says the deputies knew it was a BB gun, since he had been live streaming the protest online prior to their arrival. The Captain says his department did not know it was a BB gun.

The protestors filmed the confrontation with the SWAT team members. In the video it shows the protestors cursing at the officers right before the officers throw some members to the ground to detain them."

So now you know the whole story. The protesters deliberately provoked this confrontation and then recorded it. They probably tipped the cops off about the gun in order to escalate the situation.

smitty04: I suspect the whole problem was caused by the Colorado Foreclosure Resistance Coalition.

I tried to join the resistance but the Colorado Resistance Application Process was crap

danceswithwombats: This bank got a SWAT team, because God forbid some hippies make a stand and not get crushed for it.

Banks get court orders, when the eviction deputy sees what could be a gun, they call the swat team.

In before asshats using words like "libs", "activists", and "juxtaposition".

JackieRabbit: "O'Connor says the deputies knew it was a BB gun, since he had been live streaming the protest online prior to their arrival. The Captain says his department did not know it was a BB gun.

The protestors filmed the confrontation with the SWAT team members. In the video it shows the protestors cursing at the officers right before the officers throw some members to the ground to detain them."

So now you know the whole story. The protesters deliberately provoked this confrontation and then recorded it. They probably tipped the cops off about the gun in order to escalate the situation.

OMG! They threw them to the ground! Those monsters! And detained them?!? Clearly the end of the world is nigh!

smitty04: danceswithwombats: This bank got a SWAT team, because God forbid some hippies make a stand and not get crushed for it.

Banks get court orders, when the eviction deputy sees what could be a gun, they call the swat team.

So when a deputy sees a man lawfully exercising his Constitutional rights he decides "Hey, I should probably call in a roided out paramilitary organization to disenfranchise this law abiding citizen!"

Heil Hitler

And who picked up the cost for this? The tax payer, charge the bank for every minute spent and charge them through the nose. If an eviction needs a swat team then he police should stay home.

smitty04: danceswithwombats: This bank got a SWAT team, because God forbid some hippies make a stand and not get crushed for it.

Banks get court orders, when the eviction deputy sees what could be a gun, they call the swat team.

Let's accept this as a legitimate response for a moment, this "I think I might have seen a single gun, let's send in a paramilitary team" impulse.

If that's the case, I have one simple question: What do we pay regular police for? If the flowchart goes: 1.) See something that might be a weapon, 2.) Call in tanks and guys with assault rifles, then why don't we just send tanks and assault rifles to every law enforcement call?

e) official Mecha-Streisand sighting!

It's members of the occupy movement. The whole site needs to be nuked. Get the pigs and the commies in one strike. Everybody wins

Thisbymaster: And who picked up the cost for this? The tax payer, charge the bank for every minute spent and charge them through the nose. If an eviction needs a swat team then he police should stay home.

The bank does pay for the eviction costs and if a sherriff is required it costs about $2000 per each sherriff visit (there are cases where more than one is required). As far as the whole SWAT team costs? I don't know about that part.

No sympathy for the Occupy tards; never bring anything that even looks like a gun to a protest.

Sympathy for old lady; it would suck to loose your house as an old person.

The cops did what they were supposed to; how were they supposed to know that it was a BB gun without seeing it close up?

/ besides; who brings anything resembling a gun to a protest or sit in or whatever?

jmr61: Actually they don't in many places. Now Colorado in the winter could possibly run some off eventually but MANY squatters will stay seemingly forever and live on propane and bottled water. But of course the bank should accept that forever in many people's eyes.

Yes, some would call that the cost of accepting bailout money from the very taxpayers they're still busily throwing out of homes.

Don't like that? Fine, when your bank goes tits-up, be a man and accept the free market at work on your firm's own choices.

And this will be my personal belief for so long as "Too Big To Fail" still exists, and there's even one dime of bailout money yet to be repaid. After that, sure, let's go back to common sense on both sides of the transaction. But until then.......no special cookies for non-person "persons".

Damn it! I chose b.) sniper hiding in the woods.

jfivealive: smitty04: I suspect the whole problem was caused by the Colorado Foreclosure Resistance Coalition.

I tried to join the resistance but the Colorado Resistance Application Process was crap 

The woman was getting evicted, in Colorado, on the verge of winter. Who knows if she, herself, wasn't armed and willing to do anything to stay...or get a warm, comfy jail cell.

iheartscotch: No sympathy for the Occupy tards; never bring anything that even looks like a gun to a protest.

Sympathy for old lady; it would suck to loose your house as an old person.

The cops did what they were supposed to; how were they supposed to know that it was a BB gun without seeing it close up?

/ besides; who brings anything resembling a gun to a protest or sit in or whatever?

People who want to be shot?

CruiserTwelve
So subby, what should the cops have done? Does she get to live in the house for free?

Yes.


jmr61
But of course the bank should accept that forever in many people's eyes.

How dare people live in houses rather than freeze to death waiting in line for an overcrowded, disease-ridden, dehumanizing shelter that doesn't have room for them anyway, leaving the likely-unsellable house empty for several years until it's so rotten that it has to be condemned and bulldozed. I mean, the way some people talk it's like there are six times as many empty houses as there are homeless people or something. Don't these people know that a bank's right to a profit is more important than a person's right to shelter?

splat the whale: iheartscotch: No sympathy for the Occupy tards; never bring anything that even looks like a gun to a protest.

Sympathy for old lady; it would suck to loose your house as an old person.

The cops did what they were supposed to; how were they supposed to know that it was a BB gun without seeing it close up?

/ besides; who brings anything resembling a gun to a protest or sit in or whatever?

People who want to be shot?

Or people that want the swat team to get called, I guess.

iheartscotch: The cops did what they were supposed to; how were they supposed to know that it was a BB gun without seeing it close up?

CruiserTwelve: d) 63 year old woman that had been evicted and refused to leave and 24 people, one armed with a gun, that intended to actively resist efforts to remove her.

So whenever cops see what they think is a gun they immediately should call in the SWAT team?

RanDomino: Don't these people know that a bank's right to a profit is more important than a person's right to shelter?

Without banks making a profit, there would be very few homes and shelter would consist of cardboard boxes for most people.

liam76

So whenever cops see what they think is a gun they immediately should call in the SWAT team?


They pull a gun, you pull a SWAT team. THAT's the Chicago Colorado way!

RanDomino: CruiserTwelve
So subby, what should the cops have done? Does she get to live in the house for free?

Yes.


jmr61
But of course the bank should accept that forever in many people's eyes.

How dare people live in houses rather than freeze to death waiting in line for an overcrowded, disease-ridden, dehumanizing shelter that doesn't have room for them anyway, leaving the likely-unsellable house empty for several years until it's so rotten that it has to be condemned and bulldozed. I mean, the way some people talk it's like there are six times as many empty houses as there are homeless people or something. Don't these people know that a bank's right to a profit is more important than a person's right to shelter?

And you put up how many such people in your own home? You know, as an example to others.

Oh my god. It's Grey Dawn.

Hello, Police? this is the bank. You know. We *own* you. Look, we got a person here who thinks they have legal claim to our property. We don't have time to show you all the paperwork, and frankly, it's a bunch of legal mumbo jumbo you cops wouldn't undertand. Just go out there and shoot her or what ever you have to do because we're the bank, and we own you.

RanDomino: CruiserTwelve
So subby, what should the cops have done? Does she get to live in the house for free?

Yes.


jmr61
But of course the bank should accept that forever in many people's eyes.

How dare people live in houses rather than freeze to death waiting in line for an overcrowded, disease-ridden, dehumanizing shelter that doesn't have room for them anyway, leaving the likely-unsellable house empty for several years until it's so rotten that it has to be condemned and bulldozed. I mean, the way some people talk it's like there are six times as many empty houses as there are homeless people or something. Don't these people know that a bank's right to a profit is more important than a person's right to shelter?

Someone from the Colorado Foreclosure Resistance Coalition could have certainly offered to shelter this down trodden soul until such time as she found acceptable housing. But, that might stretch them beyond their convictions and/or compassion limits. Apparently caring does stop at some point.

liam76: iheartscotch: The cops did what they were supposed to; how were they supposed to know that it was a BB gun without seeing it close up?

CruiserTwelve: d) 63 year old woman that had been evicted and refused to leave and 24 people, one armed with a gun, that intended to actively resist efforts to remove her.

So whenever cops see what they think is a gun they immediately should call in the SWAT team?

They're getting paid anyway. Let them get some exercise/practice in on the old ladies and the hippies, hopefully they'll be more likely to get it right when it counts.

Kinda like those Grenada and Panama scrimmages.

liam76: iheartscotch: The cops did what they were supposed to; how were they supposed to know that it was a BB gun without seeing it close up?

CruiserTwelve: d) 63 year old woman that had been evicted and refused to leave and 24 people, one armed with a gun, that intended to actively resist efforts to remove her.

So whenever cops see what they think is a gun they immediately should call in the SWAT team?

Hey now; they had a court order to remove the old lady. Then they had a whole bunch of jack-wagons that had something that looked like a gun. That it turned out to be a BB gun is besides the point; why did they have it if they didn't want the swat team called in?

/ I ask again; why bring anything that looks like a gun to a protest or a sit in?

RanDomino: CruiserTwelve
So subby, what should the cops have done? Does she get to live in the house for free?

Yes.


jmr61
But of course the bank should accept that forever in many people's eyes.

How dare people live in houses rather than freeze to death waiting in line for an overcrowded, disease-ridden, dehumanizing shelter that doesn't have room for them anyway, leaving the likely-unsellable house empty for several years until it's so rotten that it has to be condemned and bulldozed. I mean, the way some people talk it's like there are six times as many empty houses as there are homeless people or something. Don't these people know that a bank's right to a profit is more important than a person's right to shelter?

Down, boy.

It's not like a foreclosure happens out of the blue, you know. I mean, I understand what you're saying about houses and that--I totally agree there--but it's not like everything was fine and dandy, the woman had been paying on her house and things were good and then one day the SWAT team showed up and the bank said "Ours now!" Usually there are lots of signs that the bank is coming to take your house, the person has plenty of time to pay up, refinance, leave, make other arrangements, and long before the cops get there the lawyers show up first. She did have a chance to leave peacefully, and opted not to go.

Tell us again how we're not a police state.

I like that fairy tail.

CruiserTwelve: d) 63 year old woman that had been evicted and refused to leave and 24 people, one armed with a gun, that intended to actively resist efforts to remove her.

So subby, what should the cops have done? Does she get to live in the house for free? Should the cops have shrugged it off and said they weren't going to enforce the court order because it was unpopular?

should have just shot them all to be sure, and then gone after their families and people they know just to be safe. These are very dangerous times and these are very dangerous people.

CruiserTwelve: d) 63 year old woman that had been evicted and refused to leave and 24 people, one armed with a gun, that intended to actively resist efforts to remove her.

So subby, what should the cops have done? Does she get to live in the house for free? Should the cops have shrugged it off and said they weren't going to enforce the court order because it was unpopular?

2/10; obvious and repetative

FTFA: "I think our officers handled themselves just fine. I'll tell you at the end of day we were prepared to meet any resistance that may have come," Captain Snelling said.

It's a farking home forclosure!! If you think one of the protestors has a hand gun, just come back tomorrow. Were they really ready to kill someone over this? What the fark is wrong with people?

SWAT teams are a use-it-or-lose-it kind of deal. If this foreclosure hadn't come up, the SWAT team would have been out shooting up a neighborhood to serve an arrest warrant. Is that what you really want? A shot up neighborhood?

stonicus: FTFA: "I think our officers handled themselves just fine. I'll tell you at the end of day we were prepared to meet any resistance that may have come," Captain Snelling said.

It's a farking home forclosure!! If you think one of the protestors has a hand gun, just come back tomorrow. Were they really ready to kill someone over this? What the fark is wrong with people?

THEY ARE DIRTY SMELLY HIPPIES!!!!