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   Revealed: The President's $223 million 'doomsday' plane that protects him against nuclear war, asteroids and Republicans

07 Nov 2012 11:02 PM   |   23794 clicks   |   Daily Mail
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sno man    [TotalFark]  
The annual budget for the U.S. doomsday plane is between $5 billion and $6 billion dollars according to the article. And the plane is $223M according to subby.
And they don't have a new plane every year? WTF?

07 Nov 2012 09:08 PM
Dead for Tax Reasons     
He was afraid of a doomsday plane gap

07 Nov 2012 09:30 PM
FlashHarry    [TotalFark]  

Dead for Tax Reasons: He was afraid of a doomsday plane gap


animals could be bred and SLAUGHTERED!

07 Nov 2012 09:34 PM
costermonger    [TotalFark]  
Article doesn't mention it but there are actually four of them.

I've always found the E-4's various jobs to be kind of fascinating. It was built to be the command post for a global thermonuclear war, but clearly it has only ever been used in this capacity in exercises. It's other job (which it actually has been used for) is to ferry top FEMA officials into a disaster zone and then act as a (mobile if need be) command post.

So I guess if you're nuking or being nuked, the E-4's your ride of choice.

07 Nov 2012 09:57 PM
Dinki    [TotalFark]  

sno man: The annual budget for the U.S. doomsday plane is between $5 billion and $6 billion dollars according to the article. And the plane is $223M according to subby.
And they don't have a new plane every year? WTF?


You didn't actually believe one word of a Mail online article did you?

07 Nov 2012 10:05 PM
sno man    [TotalFark]  

Dinki: sno man: The annual budget for the U.S. doomsday plane is between $5 billion and $6 billion dollars according to the article. And the plane is $223M according to subby.
And they don't have a new plane every year? WTF?

You didn't actually believe one word of a Mail online article did you?


After the last month or so in the Politics tab, I don't even believe what I typed, let alone you, subby or the article...

07 Nov 2012 10:17 PM
NewportBarGuy    [TotalFark]  
the plane's four turbofan jet engine can fly for days without refueling

That seems highly likely. Good show old chaps.

07 Nov 2012 10:34 PM
AverageAmericanGuy    [TotalFark]  
They're just 747's, right?

07 Nov 2012 11:04 PM
FatherChaos     
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This communications hub gives the President access to 24/7 porn, NBA games, and YouTube videos of Republicans crying for a recount.

07 Nov 2012 11:06 PM
SithLord     

FatherChaos: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x286]

This communications hub gives the President access to 24/7 porn, NBA games, and YouTube videos of Republicans crying for a recount.


But no access to ambassadors crying for assistance in Libya.

07 Nov 2012 11:08 PM
NewportBarGuy    [TotalFark]  

SithLord: But no access to ambassadors crying for assistance in Libya.


I'll bet that's the first time you ever cared about a gay man crying out for help.

07 Nov 2012 11:11 PM
Shadow Blasko     

SithLord: FatherChaos: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x286]

This communications hub gives the President access to 24/7 porn, NBA games, and YouTube videos of Republicans crying for a recount.

But no access to ambassadors crying for assistance in Libya.


Thats it.

I give up.

WHAT DO YOU PEOPLE WANT?

07 Nov 2012 11:11 PM
JasonOfOrillia    [TotalFark]  
Hundreds of millions of dollars all so a plane won't crash if you use a cell phone.

07 Nov 2012 11:12 PM
Seth'n'Spectrum     

NewportBarGuy: the plane's four turbofan jet engine can fly for days without refueling

That seems highly likely. Good show old chaps.


I'm always shocked by the total lack of editing in Daily Mail articles. You can find really, really egregious typos all the time.

Sometimes, I wonder if they're playing some sort of extended MSTD-style joke.

07 Nov 2012 11:13 PM
nytmare     

SithLord: FatherChaos: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x286]

This communications hub gives the President access to 24/7 porn, NBA games, and YouTube videos of Republicans crying for a recount.

But no access to ambassadors crying for assistance in Libya.


There's ambassadors in 67 countries crying for assistance. Go help them. Now.

07 Nov 2012 11:13 PM
rooftop235    [TotalFark]  
Obviously AF1. But I wonder if there are some tricks that can be done to make it fly at least 24 hours without refueling. Much slower speeds, shutting down an engine or two, extra fuel...

07 Nov 2012 11:14 PM
Kuroshin     

NewportBarGuy: SithLord: But no access to ambassadors crying for assistance in Libya.

I'll bet that's the first time you ever cared about a gay man crying out for help.


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07 Nov 2012 11:16 PM
Sandor at the Zoo     

FlashHarry: Dead for Tax Reasons: He was afraid of a doomsday plane gap

animals could be bred and SLAUGHTERED!


Mein Fuhrer!

07 Nov 2012 11:17 PM
rooftop235    [TotalFark]  
My bad about AF1.

07 Nov 2012 11:17 PM
costermonger    [TotalFark]  

AverageAmericanGuy: They're just 747's, right?


Yeah but these are Doomsday 747s.

07 Nov 2012 11:18 PM
buzzcut73     

rooftop235: Obviously AF1. But I wonder if there are some tricks that can be done to make it fly at least 24 hours without refueling. Much slower speeds, shutting down an engine or two, extra fuel...


Or one of these every 12 hours or so
www.boeing.comView Full Size

07 Nov 2012 11:20 PM
Gilligan13     

Shadow Blasko: SithLord: FatherChaos: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x286]

This communications hub gives the President access to 24/7 porn, NBA games, and YouTube videos of Republicans crying for a recount.

But no access to ambassadors crying for assistance in Libya.

Thats it.

I give up.

WHAT DO YOU PEOPLE WANT?


A Good President for a start (The last 4 have been shiate).........and a good Congress.......and representatives who actually listen to the peoples wishes.........and Government to realize that its job is to provide infrastructure and protection NOT meddle in any and all portions of its citizens lives.......and while I'm at it, how about a million or so tax free dollars?

Might as well ask for the money 'cause none of it is going to happen.

07 Nov 2012 11:20 PM
AverageAmericanGuy    [TotalFark]  

costermonger: AverageAmericanGuy: They're just 747's, right?

Yeah but these are Doomsday 747s.


Sweet! Does everyone have to wear tunics or is spandex the doomsday material of choice?

OMG. Spandex tunics.

GODDAMMITSOMUCH OBAMA!!!

07 Nov 2012 11:20 PM
KangTheMad    [TotalFark]  
I want to get this out of the way, for the morons that are gonna whine about a $223 million plane

You'd be lucky to get a brand new jumbo-jet today for that little.

//The new Dreamliner is over $300 million a plane

07 Nov 2012 11:23 PM
AverageAmericanGuy    [TotalFark]  

KangTheMad: I want to get this out of the way, for the morons that are gonna whine about a $223 million plane

You'd be lucky to get a brand new jumbo-jet today for that little.

//The new Dreamliner is over $300 million a plane


WHY DOESN'T THE PRESIDENT HAVE THE BEST PLANE AVAILABLE?

07 Nov 2012 11:24 PM
Smingleigh     
So, does the President get a little bag of peanuts, or is it a little bag of pretzels?

07 Nov 2012 11:29 PM
AverageAmericanGuy    [TotalFark]  

Smingleigh: So, does the President get a little bag of peanuts, or is it a little bag of pretzels?


Does he get a cupful or the whole can? And Coke or Fresca?

07 Nov 2012 11:30 PM
thekilt04     

costermonger: Article doesn't mention it but there are actually four of them.

I've always found the E-4's various jobs to be kind of fascinating. It was built to be the command post for a global thermonuclear war, but clearly it has only ever been used in this capacity in exercises. It's other job (which it actually has been used for) is to ferry top FEMA officials into a disaster zone and then act as a (mobile if need be) command post.

So I guess if you're nuking or being nuked, the E-4's your ride of choice.


awesome.

awes

SithLord: FatherChaos: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x286]

This communications hub gives the President access to 24/7 porn, NBA games, and YouTube videos of Republicans crying for a recount.

But no access to ambassadors crying for assistance in Libya.


ha. genuine ha.

07 Nov 2012 11:30 PM
sandbar67     

AverageAmericanGuy: KangTheMad: I want to get this out of the way, for the morons that are gonna whine about a $223 million plane

You'd be lucky to get a brand new jumbo-jet today for that little.

//The new Dreamliner is over $300 million a plane

WHY DOESN'T THE PRESIDENT HAVE THE BEST PLANE AVAILABLE?


Because they won't buy him an Airbus

07 Nov 2012 11:31 PM
randomjsa     
I'm... guessing this plane dumps the vast majority of the creature comforts of AF1 in favor of being pure survivability? Otherwise I have to ask why not use it as AF1?

No wait I still don't really get it because in order for this planes capabilities to be needed you need to have wiped out every single solitary AWACS type aircraft?

The ability to stay up for days is about the only thing I see here that makes it a really nice "doomsday" plane but even there I have to ask what sort of situation would arise in which you would need to stay up for days at a time then suddenly have a place to land?

07 Nov 2012 11:32 PM
Ghastly    [TotalFark]  
If I was Obama I'd be playing that thing 24/7 for a week over New York with a banner behind it that reads "Come Get Me Trump!".

07 Nov 2012 11:32 PM
ha-ha-guy     

Smingleigh: So, does the President get a little bag of peanuts, or is it a little bag of pretzels?


Bush tended to opt for the peanuts after a specific incident.

07 Nov 2012 11:32 PM
StopLurkListen     
"The annual budget for the U.S. doomsday plan is between $5 billion and $6 billion dollars."

I don't know if that's a typo, but I suspect it isn't, it's just bad writing to interchange carelessly the similar words "plane" and "plan" -- a $223m doomsday "plane", and a $5-$6b doomsday "plan" that includes a secret multi-story underground facility, personnel who are always on alert, multi-day drills, and *four aircraft* and all associated maintenance and operating expenses.

07 Nov 2012 11:33 PM
AverageAmericanGuy    [TotalFark]  

sandbar67: AverageAmericanGuy: KangTheMad: I want to get this out of the way, for the morons that are gonna whine about a $223 million plane

You'd be lucky to get a brand new jumbo-jet today for that little.

//The new Dreamliner is over $300 million a plane

WHY DOESN'T THE PRESIDENT HAVE THE BEST PLANE AVAILABLE?

Because they won't buy him an Airbus


It ain't the best if it ain't made in the U.S.A.

07 Nov 2012 11:33 PM
AverageAmericanGuy    [TotalFark]  

Ghastly: If I was Obama I'd be playing that thing 24/7 for a week over New York with a banner behind it that reads "Come Get Me Trump!".


New York just went through the worst disaster in over century and is still reeling from the impact. Have some class.

07 Nov 2012 11:35 PM
ha-ha-guy     

randomjsa: I'm... guessing this plane dumps the vast majority of the creature comforts of AF1 in favor of being pure survivability? Otherwise I have to ask why not use it as AF1?

No wait I still don't really get it because in order for this planes capabilities to be needed you need to have wiped out every single solitary AWACS type aircraft?

The ability to stay up for days is about the only thing I see here that makes it a really nice "doomsday" plane but even there I have to ask what sort of situation would arise in which you would need to stay up for days at a time then suddenly have a place to land?


I really doubt it can stay up for days on its take off fuel. The record for a bigger plane was a NZ P-3 that did 27 hours on one engine. That of course was a prop which is nowhere near as thirsty as a turbofan. I assume the plane has a heck of a range but its real purpose to get the President to Cheyenne Mountain or some other secret facility ASAP.

/of course they can repeatedly in air refuel it
//however if we have the infra intact to let us to send up a steady stream of tankers, odds are we have at least one secure base the President could land at

07 Nov 2012 11:35 PM
StopLurkListen     

buzzcut73: rooftop235: Obviously AF1. But I wonder if there are some tricks that can be done to make it fly at least 24 hours without refueling. Much slower speeds, shutting down an engine or two, extra fuel...

Or one of these every 12 hours or so
[www.boeing.com image 375x300]


Zoinks. Doing this trick every 12 hours for long periods is playing dice with the continuity of the American government. You gotta do what you gotta do, and I know our pilots and crew refueling Air Force One will be extra-extra careful, but you're always taking a risk doing it. Yeep.

07 Nov 2012 11:37 PM
Acharne     
What bullshiat. FTA: "It can withstand a nuclear bomb"

No. No it cannot. Despite the sheer ridiculousness of that statement, the EMP effect alone would take it.

07 Nov 2012 11:39 PM
hammettman     

sno man: The annual budget for the U.S. doomsday plane is between $5 billion and $6 billion dollars according to the article. And the plane is $223M according to subby.
And they don't have a new plane every year? WTF?


One of these things are not like the other.

TFA: The annual budget for the U.S. doomsday plan is between $5 billion and $6 billion dollars.

Oliver North spent a few years in the basement authoring a lot of these plans. It's reassuring that he was supervised by Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney. I did a lot of research on this stuff about 15 years ago. One intelligence guy told me that nothing was too wild to contemplate, and that the test for the plans was a so called "laugh test." If these types laughed at a particular part of the plan, it was not good.

07 Nov 2012 11:41 PM
austin_millbarge     

SithLord: But no access to ambassadors crying for assistance in Libya.


That chicken.... keep on f**king it.

07 Nov 2012 11:42 PM
LordJiro     

AverageAmericanGuy: Ghastly: If I was Obama I'd be playing that thing 24/7 for a week over New York with a banner behind it that reads "Come Get Me Trump!".

New York just went through the worst disaster in over century and is still reeling from the impact. Have some class.


How about over Maricopa with "Come at me, Joe!"?

07 Nov 2012 11:44 PM
Tears_that_smell_like_dogfood     
Also called AF#1

/DNRTFA

07 Nov 2012 11:45 PM
ds615     
ITs worst disaster, not "the".

For most of us, NY isn't the center of the world. You're soggy. Get over it.

07 Nov 2012 11:48 PM
JohnnyC     
We take very good care of our President. Very good care.

I'm totally okay with this.

07 Nov 2012 11:49 PM
costermonger    [TotalFark]  
The difference between these and the VC-25s (the 747s normally used as AF-1) is that these are geared towards providing a ride for the other officials in the National Command Authority. Nuclear war kicks off and the President skips town on AF1, before long one or more of these will be in the air carrying the Secretary of Defense, VP, etc.

They're also more directly linked to nuclear forces. They carry a 5 mile long extendable antenna that allows them to talk to submerged ballistic missile subs, etc.

07 Nov 2012 11:49 PM
LordJiro     

SithLord: FatherChaos: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x286]

This communications hub gives the President access to 24/7 porn, NBA games, and YouTube videos of Republicans crying for a recount.

But no access to ambassadors crying for assistance in Libya.


Remember, it's the President's job to PERSONALLY see to the security of every single embassy and consulate in every single shiathole country on the planet.

Reagan, Clinton and both Bushes had attacks that killed far more people in their first terms, including attacks on embassies and consulates. Most barely got passing mentions in the media. But four people die in a country coming out of civil war, and you vultures jumped on it because, and ONLY because, you thought it would hurt Obama.

And he STILL stomped Romney. But you just keep farking that chicken, because you've got NOTHING else.

07 Nov 2012 11:50 PM
baronbloodbath    [TotalFark]  
It's a specially designed plane that is headquartered at Offutt AFB in Nebraska. It's called the National Airborne Operations Center, or NAOC. You have to have a top secret clearance just to even set foot inside it.

07 Nov 2012 11:50 PM
thekilt04     

Acharne: What bullshiat. FTA: "It can withstand a nuclear bomb"

No. No it cannot. Despite the sheer ridiculousness of that statement, the EMP effect alone would take it.


EMP shielding is a thing. the defense R&D budget is nigh infinite.

i didn't know helicopters were capable of stealth until earlier this year

imaginewhatyoullknowtomorrow.jpeg

07 Nov 2012 11:50 PM
Allen262     

Acharne: What bullshiat. FTA: "It can withstand a nuclear bomb"

No. No it cannot. Despite the sheer ridiculousness of that statement, the EMP effect alone would take it.


2 words....

Vacuum tubes.

07 Nov 2012 11:50 PM
AverageAmericanGuy    [TotalFark]  

LordJiro: AverageAmericanGuy: Ghastly: If I was Obama I'd be playing that thing 24/7 for a week over New York with a banner behind it that reads "Come Get Me Trump!".

New York just went through the worst disaster in over century and is still reeling from the impact. Have some class.

How about over Maricopa with "Come at me, Joe!"?


Arizona is a red state with a retarded populace. Have some class.

07 Nov 2012 11:51 PM
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