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09 Nov 2012 01:32 PM   |   9613 clicks   |   Sun Sentinel
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TV's Vinnie     
Why don't these morons understand that being caught in possession like this can literally ruin their life in a heartbeat. Hide that sh*t unless you want to go to jail and then end up sleeping under a highway overpass for the rest of your life, you stupid dumbfarks!!

08 Nov 2012 11:23 PM
Krieghund     
I'm not crying for the dude that got caught, but WTH was the towing company doing looking at a SD card he left in his car?

08 Nov 2012 11:30 PM
Happy Hours     

Krieghund: I'm not crying for the dude that got caught, but WTH was the towing company doing looking at a SD card he left in his car?


That was my Weeners BUT "No further efforts were made by anybody to pay the storage fee and so the vehicle was put up for auction, the arrest report stated."

It doesn't say what the storage fees were but I kind of doubt they were more than the worth of the vehicle. And so if you're going to auction off a vehicle and all of its contents and you come across a memory card just mere curiosity is enough to see what is on it.

Seems like a pretty good scam owning a storage yard. About 20 years ago my car was towed because it was illegally parked. So were about 100 other cars. After a lot of walking and only a few hours in "storage" I paid about $70 to get my car out of the lot. I never bothered to pay the parking ticket which was only a fraction of the cost to get it out of the impound lot. Fark that.

The 100 cars is just a wild-ass guess. If it's accurate the tow company grossed about $7000 that day just from that one spot.

09 Nov 2012 03:52 AM
serial_crusher    [TotalFark]  

Happy Hours: The 100 cars is just a wild-ass guess. If it's accurate the tow company grossed about $7000 that day just from that one spot.


CSB: There was a notorious towing company in Blacksburg called TekTow, and they had deals with all the apartment complexes. Kids would get drunk at their friends apartments, do the responsible thing and take the bus home, and TekTow would rape them with towing feeds.
My one friend lived in a parking lot that had free visitor parking in a small gravel lot off to the side of the main lot. The only rule for that lot was "no parking on the grass", which TekTow took about as literally as they could. If you were at the edge of the gravel and literally a single blade of grass was touching your tire, they'd tow your ass.
There were also rumors that a TekTow driver had been caught towing a car into an illegal spot, taking his photo of the now-illegally-parked car, then towing it off.

09 Nov 2012 10:44 AM
SurfaceTension    [TotalFark]  

Happy Hours: Seems like a pretty good scam owning a storage yard. About 20 years ago my car was towed because it was illegally parked. So were about 100 other cars. After a lot of walking and only a few hours in "storage" I paid about $70 to get my car out of the lot. I never bothered to pay the parking ticket which was only a fraction of the cost to get it out of the impound lot. Fark that.


Not saying that anyone should ever do this, but while in the impound lot, the cars are under the custody of the towing company, right? If someone was to come along and, say, spray a bunch of the cars with paint balls, then wouldn't the towing company/storage yard be responsible for fixing or repainting all the cars? I mean, not that those places deserve it or anything. They're just performing a public service without any malicious intent at all, right? Right?

09 Nov 2012 12:24 PM
Tr0mBoNe    [TotalFark]  

SurfaceTension: Happy Hours: Seems like a pretty good scam owning a storage yard. About 20 years ago my car was towed because it was illegally parked. So were about 100 other cars. After a lot of walking and only a few hours in "storage" I paid about $70 to get my car out of the lot. I never bothered to pay the parking ticket which was only a fraction of the cost to get it out of the impound lot. Fark that.

Not saying that anyone should ever do this, but while in the impound lot, the cars are under the custody of the towing company, right? If someone was to come along and, say, spray a bunch of the cars with paint balls, then wouldn't the towing company/storage yard be responsible for fixing or repainting all the cars? I mean, not that those places deserve it or anything. They're just performing a public service without any malicious intent at all, right? Right?


And then a dog comes out of nowhere and bites your balls off.

09 Nov 2012 12:36 PM
skullkrusher     
In a related story, All Florida Towing will go through your shiat. Use someone else

09 Nov 2012 01:35 PM
Nick Nostril     

Happy Hours: Krieghund: I'm not crying for the dude that got caught, but WTH was the towing company doing looking at a SD card he left in his car?

That was my Weeners BUT "No further efforts were made by anybody to pay the storage fee and so the vehicle was put up for auction, the arrest report stated."


Well, it had to be someone's weener. Yours is as good as anyone's.

09 Nov 2012 01:35 PM
signaljammer     
Our hero was an idiot to admit ownership of the SD card. Be nice to the cops, but tell them nothing.

09 Nov 2012 01:36 PM
The Only Sane Man In Florida     
This is from the sun-sentinel (Florida newspaper) website, and is thus mis-tagged. Please correct this.

09 Nov 2012 01:36 PM
omnimancer28     

SurfaceTension: Happy Hours: Seems like a pretty good scam owning a storage yard. About 20 years ago my car was towed because it was illegally parked. So were about 100 other cars. After a lot of walking and only a few hours in "storage" I paid about $70 to get my car out of the lot. I never bothered to pay the parking ticket which was only a fraction of the cost to get it out of the impound lot. Fark that.

Not saying that anyone should ever do this, but while in the impound lot, the cars are under the custody of the towing company, right? If someone was to come along and, say, spray a bunch of the cars with paint balls, then wouldn't the towing company/storage yard be responsible for fixing or repainting all the cars? I mean, not that those places deserve it or anything. They're just performing a public service without any malicious intent at all, right? Right?


No. Every single one of these places has a clause in the agreement to take your car out of impound that basically says "we are not responsible for any damages to your car while it was on this lot". If you want your car back, you sign. If not, they charge you a hundred bucks a day while you complain that it is unfair.

09 Nov 2012 01:37 PM
Englebert Slaptyback     

The Only Sane Man In Florida


This is from the sun-sentinel (Florida newspaper) website, and is thus mis-tagged. Please correct this.


Sick trumps Florida in this case. Fear not, there will be plenty of non-sick Florida-tag-worthy articles along shortly.

09 Nov 2012 01:39 PM
omnimancer28     

signaljammer: Our hero was an idiot to admit ownership of the SD card. Be nice to the cops, but tell them nothing.


This. There is no chain of custody. The owner could just as easily claim that the SD card was dropped by the person who towed the car.

09 Nov 2012 01:39 PM
Ashrams     

Krieghund: I'm not crying for the dude that got caught, but WTH was the towing company doing looking at a SD card he left in his car?


What any guy would do who found a memory card - Look for porn.

09 Nov 2012 01:39 PM
Honest Bender    [TotalFark]  
Now, I'm all for child porn criminals getting caught. But how hard is it to encrypt your illegal files?
osx.wdfiles.comView Full Size

09 Nov 2012 01:40 PM
CeroX     

Happy Hours: t doesn't say what the storage fees were but I kind of doubt they were more than the worth of the vehicle.


I lost a s15 Silvia conversion Nissan to a towing company that charged $1000 a day storage fees after someone rear ended me and the company towed the car.

Long story short, i lived in an apartment complex that didn't have garage and would strictly tow any broke down vehicle on the property. Didn't have anywhere else to store it, so when the tow truck showed up and asked where to take it, i didn't have anyplace, and they said they would store it at there place as long as i signed a release of liability form.

Turns out they charge $1k/day for that service

I already didn't have $1000 to get it out after the first day and within a couple of weeks i had to fork over the title to the car.

I went to court to contest the charges, but because i signed a release after the accident i agreed to the fees...

Long story short, always read the fine print on that slip they ask you to sign...

Signing that title over to the smiling owner of the towing company was one of the worst days of my life...

09 Nov 2012 01:45 PM
JackieRabbit     

TV's Vinnie: Why don't these morons understand that being caught in possession like this can literally ruin their life in a heartbeat. Hide that sh*t unless you want to go to jail and then end up sleeping under a highway overpass for the rest of your life, you stupid dumbfarks!!


What's even more moronic is that numb-nutz admitted the card was his. He could have denied it. The car was towed and in storage, so someone else could have dropped in the car and it would have been impossible for the cops to nail him with a charge unless they could have lifted a good print off of it. And As Honest Bender points out, the idiot should have encrypted the files before dropping them to removable media, which is the only place they should ever be and never on a hard drive.

09 Nov 2012 01:46 PM
Tommy Moo     

omnimancer28: signaljammer: Our hero was an idiot to admit ownership of the SD card. Be nice to the cops, but tell them nothing.

This. There is no chain of custody. The owner could just as easily claim that the SD card was dropped by the person who towed the car.


A guy dumb enough to not bother retrieving a car with kiddie porn in it probably isn't going to have come up with that either. It's almost as if he doesn't even understand that there's anything wrong with it. You'd think most people in that situation would freak and get the car back immediately at any cost, even if they had to rob a liquor store to get the cash.

09 Nov 2012 01:46 PM
Tommy Moo     

CeroX: Happy Hours: t doesn't say what the storage fees were but I kind of doubt they were more than the worth of the vehicle.

I lost a s15 Silvia conversion Nissan to a towing company that charged $1000 a day storage fees after someone rear ended me and the company towed the car.

Long story short, i lived in an apartment complex that didn't have garage and would strictly tow any broke down vehicle on the property. Didn't have anywhere else to store it, so when the tow truck showed up and asked where to take it, i didn't have anyplace, and they said they would store it at there place as long as i signed a release of liability form.

Turns out they charge $1k/day for that service

I already didn't have $1000 to get it out after the first day and within a couple of weeks i had to fork over the title to the car.

I went to court to contest the charges, but because i signed a release after the accident i agreed to the fees...

Long story short, always read the fine print on that slip they ask you to sign...

Signing that title over to the smiling owner of the towing company was one of the worst days of my life...


Aren't towing and storage fees set by municipalities? What's to stop a towing company from arbitrarily saying that the impound fee is equal to the full value of the vehicle, and then driving around literally stealing everyone's car?

09 Nov 2012 01:48 PM
DROxINxTHExWIND     

TV's Vinnie: Why don't these morons understand that being caught in possession like this can literally ruin their life in a heartbeat. Hide that sh*t unless you want to go to jail and then end up sleeping under a highway overpass for the rest of your life, you stupid dumbfarks!!


You sound...creepy.

09 Nov 2012 01:50 PM
MagSeven     

CeroX: Happy Hours: t doesn't say what the storage fees were but I kind of doubt they were more than the worth of the vehicle.

I lost a s15 Silvia conversion Nissan to a towing company that charged $1000 a day storage fees after someone rear ended me and the company towed the car.

Long story short, i lived in an apartment complex that didn't have garage and would strictly tow any broke down vehicle on the property. Didn't have anywhere else to store it, so when the tow truck showed up and asked where to take it, i didn't have anyplace, and they said they would store it at there place as long as i signed a release of liability form.

Turns out they charge $1k/day for that service

I already didn't have $1000 to get it out after the first day and within a couple of weeks i had to fork over the title to the car.

I went to court to contest the charges, but because i signed a release after the accident i agreed to the fees...

Long story short, always read the fine print on that slip they ask you to sign...

Signing that title over to the smiling owner of the towing company was one of the worst days of my life...


Holy shiat. How can that be legal? How did you have enough restraint not to burn that place to the ground and salt the earth it stood on?

09 Nov 2012 01:50 PM
runescorpio     

CeroX: Happy Hours: t doesn't say what the storage fees were but I kind of doubt they were more than the worth of the vehicle.

I lost a s15 Silvia conversion Nissan to a towing company that charged $1000 a day storage fees after someone rear ended me and the company towed the car.

Long story short, i lived in an apartment complex that didn't have garage and would strictly tow any broke down vehicle on the property. Didn't have anywhere else to store it, so when the tow truck showed up and asked where to take it, i didn't have anyplace, and they said they would store it at there place as long as i signed a release of liability form.

Turns out they charge $1k/day for that service

I already didn't have $1000 to get it out after the first day and within a couple of weeks i had to fork over the title to the car.

I went to court to contest the charges, but because i signed a release after the accident i agreed to the fees...

Long story short, always read the fine print on that slip they ask you to sign...

Signing that title over to the smiling owner of the towing company was one of the worst days of my life...


A can of gas costs less than $100. Second time something gets burned down you cant have insurance coverage on it.
Just sayin.

Also curious if he went in and made a stink beforehand and when asked about if he wanted an sd card they found he was just thinking yeah free sd card.
Would be nice to see a followup.

09 Nov 2012 01:50 PM
Honest Bender    [TotalFark]  

CeroX: Signing that title over to the smiling owner of the towing company was one of the worst days of my life...


You can bet that I wouldn't rest until I'd done >$car worth of damage to the dude's personal property. In such a way as not to get caught.

/Ya ya ya, ITG.

09 Nov 2012 01:51 PM
omnimancer28     

Tommy Moo: CeroX: Happy Hours: t doesn't say what the storage fees were but I kind of doubt they were more than the worth of the vehicle.

I lost a s15 Silvia conversion Nissan to a towing company that charged $1000 a day storage fees after someone rear ended me and the company towed the car.

Long story short, i lived in an apartment complex that didn't have garage and would strictly tow any broke down vehicle on the property. Didn't have anywhere else to store it, so when the tow truck showed up and asked where to take it, i didn't have anyplace, and they said they would store it at there place as long as i signed a release of liability form.

Turns out they charge $1k/day for that service

I already didn't have $1000 to get it out after the first day and within a couple of weeks i had to fork over the title to the car.

I went to court to contest the charges, but because i signed a release after the accident i agreed to the fees...

Long story short, always read the fine print on that slip they ask you to sign...

Signing that title over to the smiling owner of the towing company was one of the worst days of my life...

Aren't towing and storage fees set by municipalities? What's to stop a towing company from arbitrarily saying that the impound fee is equal to the full value of the vehicle, and then driving around literally stealing everyone's car?


They are restricted by municipalities or by the state. But he signed a waver which exempted the tow company from that limit.

09 Nov 2012 01:52 PM
ConConHead     
I used to work for a repo agency and my job as the secretary was to inventory every item that came out of the cars we nabbed. Thank god none of that included porn.

As for the SD, they probably were going to blank it so they could use it, if the property was never claimed. If people didn't come get their crap we sold it to goodwill or kept it.

/got really nice brand new designer bedset that way

09 Nov 2012 01:54 PM
Tom_Slick     

Krieghund: I'm not crying for the dude that got caught, but WTH was the towing company doing looking at a SD card he left in his car?


They were looking for Adult Porn.

/Used to refurb old computers, damn right I did a picture search never found any illegal porn, did find a lot of naked milfs though and a lot of people you would never ever want to see naked.

09 Nov 2012 01:55 PM
Onkel Buck    [TotalFark]  

Krieghund: I'm not crying for the dude that got caught, but WTH was the towing company doing looking at a SD card he left in his car?


I found a flash drive in the parking lot of my college. I opened it up on my computer to see if it had any evidence on it of who it belonged to. Turned out it belonged to an African foreign exchange student, there was a paper he had written saved on it and lots and lots of interacial porn

09 Nov 2012 01:55 PM
Cast     

TV's Vinnie: Why don't these morons understand that being caught in possession like this can literally ruin their life in a heartbeat. Hide that sh*t unless you want to go to jail and then end up sleeping under a highway overpass for the rest of your life, you stupid dumbfarks!!


Or dead if I find them. Or better yet, kill yourself if you are sexually attracted to children.

/honorary internet toughguy
//father

09 Nov 2012 01:55 PM
CeroX     

omnimancer28: Tommy Moo: CeroX: Happy Hours: t doesn't say what the storage fees were but I kind of doubt they were more than the worth of the vehicle.

I lost a s15 Silvia conversion Nissan to a towing company that charged $1000 a day storage fees after someone rear ended me and the company towed the car.

Long story short, i lived in an apartment complex that didn't have garage and would strictly tow any broke down vehicle on the property. Didn't have anywhere else to store it, so when the tow truck showed up and asked where to take it, i didn't have anyplace, and they said they would store it at there place as long as i signed a release of liability form.

Turns out they charge $1k/day for that service

I already didn't have $1000 to get it out after the first day and within a couple of weeks i had to fork over the title to the car.

I went to court to contest the charges, but because i signed a release after the accident i agreed to the fees...

Long story short, always read the fine print on that slip they ask you to sign...

Signing that title over to the smiling owner of the towing company was one of the worst days of my life...

Aren't towing and storage fees set by municipalities? What's to stop a towing company from arbitrarily saying that the impound fee is equal to the full value of the vehicle, and then driving around literally stealing everyone's car?

They are restricted by municipalities or by the state. But he signed a waver which exempted the tow company from that limit.


Correct, the judge told me that had i not signed an agreement and the towing company took it to their lot on their own, then the limit (i believe at the time, was $75/day), but i signed a waiver that was, in effect, a contract agreement for storage

09 Nov 2012 01:56 PM
zedster    [TotalFark]  

Honest Bender: Now, I'm all for child porn criminals getting caught. But how hard is it to encrypt your illegal files?
[osx.wdfiles.com image 128x128]


we are talking about someone that e-mailed child porn, truecrypt is not even in the wheelhouse on this one

09 Nov 2012 01:58 PM
Bhruic     

omnimancer28: signaljammer: Our hero was an idiot to admit ownership of the SD card. Be nice to the cops, but tell them nothing.

This. There is no chain of custody. The owner could just as easily claim that the SD card was dropped by the person who towed the car.


That's definitely the approach for innocent people. For people who actually are guilty of having child porn (and real rapey child porn at that), I tend to be glad they are too stupid to consider that strategy.

09 Nov 2012 01:58 PM
ArcadianRefugee     

Cast: kill yourself if you are sexually attracted to children.


Ah, so just being attracted to kids is now a reason to want them dead? No diddling needed when we have thought crimes!

Bhruic: I tend to be glad they are too stupid to consider that strategy.


Kinda like the numbnuts who commit crimes and then post photos on Facebook, brag about it on Twitter, upload videos to YouTube....

09 Nov 2012 02:02 PM
James F. Campbell     

Bhruic: child porn


Bhruic: (and real rapey child porn at that)


o_o

09 Nov 2012 02:03 PM
Slaves2Darkness     

TV's Vinnie: Why don't these morons understand that being caught in possession like this can literally ruin their life in a heartbeat. Hide that sh*t unless you want to go to jail and then end up sleeping under a highway overpass for the rest of your life, you stupid dumbfarks!!


That is not my question, my question is why would you admit to this shiat? Unless it was clearly your face on the video of child porn you shut the fark up and turn this back on the tow company. That vehicle was clearly not in your possession for days if not weeks and any good lawyer would argue that the porn on that disk is not yours

SurfaceTension: Happy Hours: Seems like a pretty good scam owning a storage yard. About 20 years ago my car was towed because it was illegally parked. So were about 100 other cars. After a lot of walking and only a few hours in "storage" I paid about $70 to get my car out of the lot. I never bothered to pay the parking ticket which was only a fraction of the cost to get it out of the impound lot. Fark that.

Not saying that anyone should ever do this, but while in the impound lot, the cars are under the custody of the towing company, right? If someone was to come along and, say, spray a bunch of the cars with paint balls, then wouldn't the towing company/storage yard be responsible for fixing or repainting all the cars? I mean, not that those places deserve it or anything. They're just performing a public service without any malicious intent at all, right? Right?


Meh, if you are going to go that far you might as well go the whole nine yards and bring along about a dozen Molotov cocktails. Then make sure to locate your car and burn it and then hit it and a whole bunch of other cars with the Molotov's.

/Yeah I used to be an anarchist, but then I got a job in IT.

09 Nov 2012 02:07 PM
Fissile     

Krieghund: I'm not crying for the dude that got caught, but WTH was the towing company doing looking at a SD card he left in his car?


==============

I had a friend who worked as a tow truck driver when we were in college. The first thing the dudes at the towing company do is go through your car looking for something to take.

09 Nov 2012 02:08 PM
Huck And Molly Ziegler     
You'd think someone in possession of an object that could get him in serious legal trouble would have the cautious sense enough to keep it locked within the four walls of his domicile.

Of course, given the nature of this illegal object, it was only a matter of time before he was caught anyway.

09 Nov 2012 02:09 PM
Bhruic     

James F. Campbell: Bhruic: child porn

Bhruic: (and real rapey child porn at that)

o_o


Well, there's "I took a picture of my 2 year old in the bath", or "I took a picture of my 16 year old gf" child porn, and "a picture of a girl between 10 and 12 years old being sexually assaulted by a man" child porn. The former kind doesn't bother me, even if technically illegal. The latter kind, on the other hand, is pretty damn evidently wrong.

09 Nov 2012 02:10 PM
JackieRabbit     

Bhruic: James F. Campbell: Bhruic: child porn

Bhruic: (and real rapey child porn at that)

o_o

Well, there's "I took a picture of my 2 year old in the bath" ... The former kind doesn't bother me, even if technically illegal. The latter kind, on the other hand, is pretty damn evidently wrong.


Taking a pic of your two year old is neither illegal nor child porn.

09 Nov 2012 02:17 PM
ChipNASA     

JackieRabbit: Bhruic: James F. Campbell: Bhruic: child porn

Bhruic: (and real rapey child porn at that)

o_o

Well, there's "I took a picture of my 2 year old in the bath" ... The former kind doesn't bother me, even if technically illegal. The latter kind, on the other hand, is pretty damn evidently wrong.

Taking a pic of your two year old is neither illegal nor child porn.


It is if there's a money shot.

O_O {:-D

09 Nov 2012 02:18 PM
vudukungfu    [TotalFark]  

Krieghund: I'm not crying for the dude that got caught, but WTH was the towing company doing looking at a SD card he left in his car?


Hoping to find porn.
'Careful what you wish for. What has been seen and all.
Can't the towing company also be charged? Isn't it like a virus, and if you see it, you're damned?

09 Nov 2012 02:23 PM
Endive Wombat    [TotalFark]  

Krieghund: I'm not crying for the dude that got caught, but WTH was the towing company doing looking at a SD card he left in his car?


I came here to ask this question too

09 Nov 2012 02:23 PM
tuxq     
3.bp.blogspot.comView Full Size


/may the force be with you. and by that, may you be forced against the shower wall, you sick asshole.

09 Nov 2012 02:25 PM
Bhruic     

JackieRabbit: Well, there's "I took a picture of my 2 year old in the bath" ... The former kind doesn't bother me, even if technically illegal. The latter kind, on the other hand, is pretty damn evidently wrong.

Taking a pic of your two year old is neither illegal nor child porn.


That depends on where you are, and how the law is worded there. In some locales it could be considered as such.

09 Nov 2012 02:26 PM
No Such Agency    [TotalFark]  
JackieRabbit:
Well, there's "I took a picture of my 2 year old in the bath" ... The former kind doesn't bother me, even if technically illegal. The latter kind, on the other hand, is pretty damn evidently wrong.

Taking a pic of your two year old is neither illegal nor child porn.


Thank you for pointing this out. Of course try explaining that to the high school drop-outs working the photo lab at Wal Mart... as any number of people have found out.

09 Nov 2012 02:26 PM
Duke Slater     
I'll spare you the csb, but

FARK STOREY WRECKER IN TULSA OKLAHOMA WITH AN AIDS ENCRUSTED STEEL DILDO

09 Nov 2012 02:27 PM
halleyscomet     

Honest Bender: Now, I'm all for child porn criminals getting caught. But how hard is it to encrypt your illegal files?
[osx.wdfiles.com image 128x128]


Most cameras don't support encryption of the photos they take. Based on the fact that it was on an SD card and not a thumb drive, and the collection of "Pretend to be a cop" paraphernalia in the car, I suspect this guy took the photos himself, or was loaned the card by someone who did.

The fact that he made NO effort to recover a car that had kiddie porn in it leads me to suspect he's either:

1. A grade A Moron.
2. It wasn't his card and he didn't know about it.

09 Nov 2012 02:28 PM
Too Pretty For Prison     
He claimed the images were sent to him via email and he simply didn't delete them - as in "this stuff isn't mine". My email client does not automatically copy attachments to an SD card. It's all just a big conspiracy at Microsoft to frame him...yeah, that's the ticket.

09 Nov 2012 02:29 PM
Aidan     

Endive Wombat: Krieghund: I'm not crying for the dude that got caught, but WTH was the towing company doing looking at a SD card he left in his car?

I came here to ask this question too


Apparently it's to take for their own or to hope for porn.

While those are the most likely scenarios, someone innocently trying to return the SD card would do the same thing. "Okay who's card is this? Maybe we can get some info from the photos and return it - holy fark!"

09 Nov 2012 02:29 PM
Aidan     

halleyscomet: 2. It wasn't his card and he didn't know about it.


This would be my suspicion.

09 Nov 2012 02:30 PM
Aidan     

Aidan: halleyscomet: 2. It wasn't his card and he didn't know about it.

This would be my suspicion.


Actually he did admit the card was his. I could see your random towing douchebag putting CP on it just for funsies, but the other stuff in the SUV was kind of weird...

09 Nov 2012 02:31 PM
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