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   Recent British arrests of internet trolls has sparked a debate about a-holes rights to free speech. Fark that

09 Nov 2012 03:31 PM   |   5894 clicks   |   LA Times
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gopher321    [TotalFark]  
Why arrest them? Waste of tax money. Just find them and smack 'em upside the head a few times. They won't do it again.

09 Nov 2012 03:28 PM
KaiserRoll     
Want to hurt them? Take away their anonymity.

09 Nov 2012 03:32 PM
Pants full of macaroni!!     
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09 Nov 2012 03:33 PM
super_grass     
Fark would never survive in Airstrip One.

09 Nov 2012 03:34 PM
Thisbymaster     
To bad the British don't have ALCU or something like them.

09 Nov 2012 03:35 PM
Hector Remarkable     
Reminds me of when the Queen of England raped my dog.

09 Nov 2012 03:36 PM
JackieRabbit     
We're gonna need more jails.

09 Nov 2012 03:37 PM
ChipNASA    [TotalFark]  
Let's just get this out of the way

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09 Nov 2012 03:37 PM
yanoosh     
Tis a slippery slope they are embarking on,

09 Nov 2012 03:38 PM
Allen. The end.     
When was Britain ever a democracy?

09 Nov 2012 03:40 PM
Day_Old_Dutchie     

JackieRabbit: We're gonna need more jails.


I think the British government wants to be America Jr.

Lock people up for stupid shiat so they'll never get a job when they get out and head back in. Who cares if this costs us in the long run?
REVENGE! Gotta hurt, punish, avenge compensate for tiny dicks.
It's what the voters WANT dammit.

09 Nov 2012 03:40 PM
Ow! That was my feelings!     
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Thank you, thank you, thank you, founding fathers.

09 Nov 2012 03:41 PM
Vectron     

09 Nov 2012 03:44 PM
jjorsett     
If this is the standard now, shouldn't the entire staffs of the British tabloids be in prison?

09 Nov 2012 03:44 PM
hairywoogit     
I am reasonably sure Britain has no freedom of speech guarantees such as they stand in the U.S. Same with freedom of the press. They have somewhat the same protection from unreasonable search and seizure, but again, not the same. Also, their wiretapping and right to privacy laws are a bit different. Almost a different country, ya know?

09 Nov 2012 03:45 PM
Vectron     
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09 Nov 2012 03:46 PM
imontheinternet    [TotalFark]  
First, they record every move you make, now they throw you in prison for trolling. loBritain

09 Nov 2012 03:47 PM
neenerist     
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09 Nov 2012 03:48 PM
GF named my left testicle thundercles     
to be arrested there all you have to be is unfashionable. RIP UK.

09 Nov 2012 03:48 PM
SweetSaws     

Day_Old_Dutchie: JackieRabbit: We're gonna need more jails.

I think the British government wants to be America Jr.

Lock people up for stupid shiat so they'll never get a job when they get out and head back in. Who cares if this costs us in the long run?
REVENGE! Gotta hurt, punish, avenge compensate for tiny dicks.
It's what the voters WANT dammit.


I know if i had a small dick I would seek revenge on society. Makes sense

09 Nov 2012 03:49 PM
CheekyMonkey     
So, if Drew goes to England, will be he be immediately arrested and imprisoned?

09 Nov 2012 03:49 PM
smitty04     

Ow! That was my feelings!: [66formerpeakfrean.files.wordpress.co m image 477x357]

Thank you, thank you, thank you, founding fathers.


Just make damn sure you do not commit a hate crime.
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09 Nov 2012 03:50 PM
S23     
There is no freedom of speech in the UK.
Should every law in every country be a copy of the US?

09 Nov 2012 03:51 PM
Begoggle     
Welcome to Obama's new America!!

09 Nov 2012 03:51 PM
Jon iz teh kewl     
It ain't what you do it's the way that you do it
It ain't what you do it's the way that you do it
It ain't what you do it's the way that you do it
Lets all get some smokes!!

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09 Nov 2012 03:51 PM
Allen. The end.     

Vectron: Rowan Atkinson's speech at Reform Section 5 Parliamentary reception

Hero.


Very nice!

09 Nov 2012 03:51 PM
Vectron     
"societal mores"

The article mentions odd examples.
What they really want to silence are discussions of race and its effects on Western societies

09 Nov 2012 03:52 PM
Allen. The end.     

smitty04: Ow! That was my feelings!: [66formerpeakfrean.files.wordpress.com image 477x357]

Thank you, thank you, thank you, founding fathers.

Just make damn sure you do not commit a hate crime.
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SIGH. That's farking stupid. Are you old enough to remember Jesse Helms? The PMRC?

09 Nov 2012 03:53 PM
Esc7     

hairywoogit: I am reasonably sure Britain has no freedom of speech guarantees such as they stand in the U.S. Same with freedom of the press. They have somewhat the same protection from unreasonable search and seizure, but again, not the same. Also, their wiretapping and right to privacy laws are a bit different. Almost a different country, ya know?


Yeah people seem to not understand that America's free speech amendment is probably one of the most liberal in the entire world. It's the odd one out where you can post neo-nazi propaganda and not get arrested.

Not to mention libel is ridiculously easy to litigate in the UK as well. "Saying mean untruthful things" will get you in hot water over there. Though the examples in the article are obviously way over the line.

I'm glad I live in America with its 1st amendment, but people need to realize we're the exception, not the norm.

09 Nov 2012 03:54 PM
Spiralmonkey    [TotalFark]  

Thisbymaster: To bad the British don't have ALCU or something like them.


What, you mean like Liberty?

09 Nov 2012 03:55 PM
factoryconnection    [TotalFark]  
Correct response: public shaming
Troubling response: government persecution

Even we in different countries should pay attention to "well intentioned" laws that end up like this.

smitty04: Just make damn sure you do not commit a hate crime.


Yeah, that's not a hate crime. Hateful speech is protected speech, although inciting a riot is not; your location and audience determine the difference.

09 Nov 2012 03:56 PM
Hack Patooey    [TotalFark]  

gopher321: Why arrest them? Waste of tax money. Just find them and smack 'em upside the head a few times. They won't do it again.


I'd vote for a law that allows dismissal of simple assault charges if the defense can prove the victim was a troll.

09 Nov 2012 03:56 PM
stevarooni    [TotalFark]  

Esc7: [...] people need to realize we're the exception, not the norm.


Be careful, that kind of talk will get you shocked gasps in some circles! >:D

09 Nov 2012 03:57 PM
Vectron     
Power corrupts.

The state, no matter how well intentioned always starts running in the same ruts of past oppressive governments,

09 Nov 2012 03:59 PM
smitty04     

Hack Patooey: gopher321: Why arrest them? Waste of tax money. Just find them and smack 'em upside the head a few times. They won't do it again.

I'd vote for a law that allows dismissal of simple assault charges if the defense can prove the victim was a troll.


You are trolling, that was inflammatory.

In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response.

09 Nov 2012 04:00 PM
s1ugg0     
I may not agree with your Herp. But I will fight to the death so that you can Derp.

09 Nov 2012 04:02 PM
The sound of one hand clapping     
I don't necessarily agree with the people in the article being labeled as trolls. When I think of a troll, I think of the people who constantly harrass others with very specific hateful comments. They do this frequently in order to get a rise from their victims so that they can feel power over them.

The guys in this article just seem to be offensive idiots who speak (or type) before they think. I know people like this. They don't seek to 'troll' anyone usually. They just don't have a filter on what they say.

And I certainly don't think they should be locked up when people say this kind of stupid stuff (and worse) all the damn time.

09 Nov 2012 04:03 PM
Molavian     
I guess that's why we kicked their asses out in the first place.

09 Nov 2012 04:03 PM
Skywolf Philosopher     
The stupid tag also applies. Citizens in any 'free' country deserve 'free' speech, and everyone is entitled to their own opinions. For example, this:

smitty04: Ow! That was my feelings!: [66formerpeakfrean.files.wordpress.com image 477x357]

Thank you, thank you, thank you, founding fathers.

Just make damn sure you do not commit a hate crime.
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Doesn't bother me. I respect the perspective of others; I do not require nor expect the same in return. It is worthwhile to note, though, that Jesus advocated speaking words of love and kindness, and that Christians should not be slanderous nor judgmental.

I will poke fun at evolution in a humorous, yet not spiteful, manner, as the great Desdierus Erasmus risked his life poking fun at his day and age. This is an inexact quote, but: The chances of evolution creating intelligent life are about the same as a print-shop explosion producing an unabridged dictionary.

09 Nov 2012 04:10 PM
signaljammer     
Nope, the Revolutionary war was fought so that some of our richies could skate on their obligations.

09 Nov 2012 04:11 PM
ukexpat     

S23: There is no freedom of speech in the UK.
Should every law in every country be a copy of the US?


Er, you need to read about the European Convention on Human Rights and the Human Rights Act 1998.

09 Nov 2012 04:12 PM
Summer Glau's Love Slave     

CheekyMonkey: So, if Drew goes to England, will be he be immediately arrested and imprisoned?


No, the Brits really don't care if you're a drunkard.

09 Nov 2012 04:14 PM
Bob_Sled     
Britain isn't just a Nanny State, it's F∩CKED!

09 Nov 2012 04:14 PM
Mouser     
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You hear the term "neckbeard" tossed about on the Internet a lot. It's rare to actually see one, though.

09 Nov 2012 04:15 PM
Skywolf Philosopher     

smitty04: In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response.


This indeed is 'responding to a troll', which is yet another unlawful forum practice, but good sir, I must ask if you speak in jest. If not, the moderator should take note of this comment. Trolling has been defined before officially by Fark moderators in an 'Ask-a-Mod' thread as any comment which is off-topic, and that is all. I would overlook your oversight, my friend smitty, but please be considerate of others: there may be amateur fark users viewing this thread who may be misled by such a comment, whereas every single user has an equal right to post his/her comments on the matter, no matter how unpopular, so long as the post is on topic.

09 Nov 2012 04:15 PM
chachi88     

signaljammer: Nope, the Revolutionary war was fought so that some of our richies could skate on their obligations.


jerk

09 Nov 2012 04:18 PM
Ow! That was my feelings!     

signaljammer: Nope, the Revolutionary war was fought so that some of our richies could skate on their obligations.


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09 Nov 2012 04:23 PM
Walker    [TotalFark]  
Sucks not to have Freedom of Speech huh UK?

/don't insult me or I will have your arse arrested

09 Nov 2012 04:23 PM
PIP_the_TROLL    [TotalFark]  

Walker: Sucks not to have Freedom of Speech huh UK?

/don't insult me or I will have your arse arrested


More like "behave like an adult and moderate your farking mouth... or we'll moderate it for you."

09 Nov 2012 04:27 PM
david_gaithersburg     

S23: There is no freedom of speech in the UK.
Should every law in every country be a copy of the US?


Freedom of speech is not a law in the US, it's viewed as a natural human right.

09 Nov 2012 04:27 PM
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