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marius2    [TotalFark]  
Can relate.
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/She she was.

10 Nov 2012 04:32 PM
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MoronLessOff     
Done in one.

10 Nov 2012 04:32 PM
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Bathia_Mapes    [TotalFark]  
theshootening.files.wordpress.com

10 Nov 2012 06:20 PM
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Walker    [TotalFark]  
They said I could become anything.....so I became Cosmo the God.

10 Nov 2012 08:11 PM
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ThreeEdgedSword     

marius2: Can relate.
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/Hot
/She she was.


Her wetware does indeed match her software.

10 Nov 2012 08:17 PM
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you are a puppet     
"Ostensibly they could have locked him up for three years straight and then released him on juvenile parole," Jay Leiderman, a Los Angeles attorney who has represented alleged members of Anonymous and LulzSec, told Wired. "But to keep someone off the Internet for six years - that one term seems unduly harsh. You're talking about a really bright, gifted kid in terms of all things Internet. And at some point after getting on the right path he could do some really good things. I feel that monitored Internet access for six years is a bit on the hefty side. It could sideline his whole life-his career path, his art, his skills. At some level it's like taking away Mozart's piano."

He then added,

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10 Nov 2012 08:21 PM
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A Shambling Mound     
I feel that monitored Internet access for six years is a bit on the hefty side. It could sideline his whole life-his career path, his art, his skills. At some level it's like taking away Mozart's piano."

At no level did Mozart use a piano to rob people.

10 Nov 2012 08:21 PM
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MontanaDave     

A Shambling Mound: I feel that monitored Internet access for six years is a bit on the hefty side. It could sideline his whole life-his career path, his art, his skills. At some level it's like taking away Mozart's piano."

At no level did Mozart use a piano to rob people.


This. Fark the little dickwad.

10 Nov 2012 08:23 PM
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Fark Rye For Many Whores     
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Should've just not come back and run to Canada.

10 Nov 2012 08:24 PM
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ThreeEdgedSword     

A Shambling Mound: I feel that monitored Internet access for six years is a bit on the hefty side. It could sideline his whole life-his career path, his art, his skills. At some level it's like taking away Mozart's piano."

At no level did Mozart use a piano to rob people.


Oh please, artists rob people of money every day.

10 Nov 2012 08:27 PM
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Zarquon's Flat Tire     
Kid will be on a burner or something by the end of the week. Then he will figure out the next gen mobile banking based scams.

10 Nov 2012 08:28 PM
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Sail The Wide Accountancy     

MontanaDave: A Shambling Mound: I feel that monitored Internet access for six years is a bit on the hefty side. It could sideline his whole life-his career path, his art, his skills. At some level it's like taking away Mozart's piano."

At no level did Mozart use a piano to rob people.

This. Fark the little dickwad.


No no no. You forget. A truly great leader takes everyone with talent. A truly great leader is both the hammer and the anvil, and will MAKE people useful. The kid is smart, the kid has instincts. You can shun him, or you can use him for your own devices. Rest assured. SOMEONE will use him. Right now he was just doing things for the lulz. Why not pay him a ton of money and stick him in the NSA? That's what I'd do.

10 Nov 2012 08:29 PM
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Endive Wombat    [TotalFark]  
FTFA:UG Nazi, which began as a politicized group that opposed SOPA, took down a bevy of websites this year, including those for NASDAQ, CIA.gov, and UFC.com.

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/oblig

10 Nov 2012 08:30 PM
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Fark Rye For Many Whores     

Walker: They said I could become anything.....so I became Cosmo the God.


And speaking of Cosmo:

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10 Nov 2012 08:32 PM
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KrispyKritter    [TotalFark]  
no applause for illegal activity but i admire the IQ and mad skills. i find computers and the internet to be humbling. no matter how much you know there is so much more to know. on TV & movies all sorts of people are just mad genius with 'puters. these people don't exist in my life.

10 Nov 2012 08:33 PM
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luthia     
As much as I agree the Mozart quote was ass-hattery, 6 years is crazy. Especially today, the net being as important as it is for every aspect of life. This kid is just being made example of really. In stead of rounding up all the hundreds of his little buddies.

/now i have to watch hackers again. curse you people.

10 Nov 2012 08:39 PM
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lizyrd     
Jay Leiderman, a Los Angeles attorney who has represented alleged members of Anonymous and LulzSec, told Wired...I feel that monitored Internet access for six years is a bit on the hefty side. It could sideline his whole life-his career path, his art, his skills. At some level it's like taking away Mozart's piano."

Damn right. Can you imagine what the world would have missed out on if teenage Mozart's piano had been impounded after he used it in that bank heist?

10 Nov 2012 08:50 PM
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GratuityIncluded     
I bet his parent was beside herself.

10 Nov 2012 08:51 PM
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Tsar_Bomba1     

Sail The Wide Accountancy:

No no no. You forget. A truly great leader takes everyone with talent. A truly great leader is both the hammer and the anvil, and will MAKE people useful. .



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10 Nov 2012 08:57 PM
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OlderGuy    [TotalFark]  

GratuityIncluded: I bet his parent was beside herself.


Then he would have two parents...twins?

10 Nov 2012 08:59 PM
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Lee Jackson Beauregard     
FTFA: UG Nazi, which began as a politicized group that opposed SOPA, took down a bevy of websites this year, including those for NASDAQ, CIA.gov, and UFC.com. It redirected 4Chan's DNS to point to its own Twitter feed. Cosmo pioneered social-engineering techniques that allowed him to gain access to user accounts at Amazon, PayPal, and a slew of other companies.

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10 Nov 2012 09:06 PM
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Baz the Spaz     
"I feel that monitored Internet access for six years is a bit on the hefty side. It could sideline his whole life-his career path, his art, his skills. At some level it's like taking away Mozart's piano."

Boo farking hoo....

10 Nov 2012 09:07 PM
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delciotto    [TotalFark]  
If this kid was a truly good hacker he wouldn't be punished, he'd get hired by a security firm or the government.

10 Nov 2012 09:08 PM
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Triumph    [TotalFark]  

luthia: 6 years is crazy. Especially today, the net being as important as it is for every aspect of life


Every aspect of life completely ruined. Every aspect.

10 Nov 2012 09:13 PM
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A Shambling Mound     

luthia: As much as I agree the Mozart quote was ass-hattery, 6 years is crazy. Especially today, the net being as important as it is for every aspect of life. This kid is just being made example of really. In stead of rounding up all the hundreds of his little buddies.

/now i have to watch hackers again. curse you people.


The alternative was several years in prison but he's being made an example of by being placed on probation for six years with supervised access to telecommunication devices.

Got it.

10 Nov 2012 09:14 PM
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fusillade762    [TotalFark]  
It redirected 4Chan's DNS to point to its own Twitter feed.

What's the point of farking with 4chan?

10 Nov 2012 09:14 PM
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randomjsa     

delciotto: If this kid was a truly good hacker he wouldn't be punished, he'd get hired by a security firm or the government.


Welcome to the modern era. That doesn't happen now.

10 Nov 2012 09:15 PM
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AbbeySomeone     

delciotto: If this kid was a truly good hacker he wouldn't be punished, he'd get hired by a security firm or the government.


This, and anybody that thinks he will sit still for 6 years is an idiot.This kid is going places and he most likely is getting offers right now.

10 Nov 2012 09:19 PM
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skinink     
He is not off the internet. He just can't use it without prior approval, and it cannot be unsupervised. Plus, he can use the internet for educational purposes. If he doesn't like it, he can just do the three year stretch and be done with it.

He agreed to the terms, so I see nothing wrong with it.

10 Nov 2012 09:19 PM
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James F. Campbell     

ThreeEdgedSword: A Shambling Mound: I feel that monitored Internet access for six years is a bit on the hefty side. It could sideline his whole life-his career path, his art, his skills. At some level it's like taking away Mozart's piano."

At no level did Mozart use a piano to rob people.

Oh please, artists CEOs and politicians rob people of money every day.


Fixed that for you.

10 Nov 2012 09:26 PM
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Mazzic518     
I am the first with this? REALLY?

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10 Nov 2012 09:27 PM
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untaken_name     

Mazzic518: I am the first with this? REALLY?

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Sweet, where do I claim mine?

/always wanted a Kevin, but never had the money for one

10 Nov 2012 09:29 PM
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luthia     

A Shambling Mound: luthia: As much as I agree the Mozart quote was ass-hattery, 6 years is crazy. Especially today, the net being as important as it is for every aspect of life. This kid is just being made example of really. In stead of rounding up all the hundreds of his little buddies.

/now i have to watch hackers again. curse you people.

The alternative was several years in prison but he's being made an example of by being placed on probation for six years with supervised access to telecommunication devices.

Got it.


Triumph: luthia: 6 years is crazy. Especially today, the net being as important as it is for every aspect of life

Every aspect of life completely ruined. Every aspect.


Aren't we farking sassy today.

The plea and subsequent probation are not the example, the charges are. Both of which I think are too strong for a 15 year old. The plea is a reaction to said example.

10 Nov 2012 09:45 PM
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Mayhem of the Black Underclass     
NASDAQ
OK, maybe, I get this one a little bit. You're mad at the big banks maybe, so you try to send a message.

CIA.gov
OK, I get this, secret prisons, injustice globally, toppling legitimate leaders to supplant them with US friendly stooges.

and UFC.com
WT everloving F? No, seriously, that's what you went after? If it was because it was so easy, you should've put yourself as points leader, or reigning world champion, or whatever they do, and told the webmaster to invest in better security. Did you do it because you were angry at the result of a fight? Now I think you're a petty dickwad, and I don't follow, nor have I watched more than 3 UFC fights.

10 Nov 2012 09:46 PM
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The 4chan Psychiatrist     

fusillade762: It redirected 4Chan's DNS to point to its own Twitter feed.

What's the point of farking with 4chan?


The lulz.

10 Nov 2012 09:53 PM
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ongbok     

skinink: He is not off the internet. He just can't use it without prior approval, and it cannot be unsupervised. Plus, he can use the internet for educational purposes. If he doesn't like it, he can just do the three year stretch and be done with it.

He agreed to the terms, so I see nothing wrong with it.


This.
Nobody is taking the computer away from him. He still will be able to learn and advance his computer knowledge, but it will be supervised. I all seriousness, during his probation period, he will probably be spending his non school time behind a desk at a FBI field office, and getting paid pretty well for it.

10 Nov 2012 09:54 PM
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BarkingUnicorn    [TotalFark]  

luthia: A Shambling Mound: luthia: As much as I agree the Mozart quote was ass-hattery, 6 years is crazy. Especially today, the net being as important as it is for every aspect of life. This kid is just being made example of really. In stead of rounding up all the hundreds of his little buddies.

/now i have to watch hackers again. curse you people.

The alternative was several years in prison but he's being made an example of by being placed on probation for six years with supervised access to telecommunication devices.

Got it.

Triumph: luthia: 6 years is crazy. Especially today, the net being as important as it is for every aspect of life

Every aspect of life completely ruined. Every aspect.

Aren't we farking sassy today.

The plea and subsequent probation are not the example, the charges are. Both of which I think are too strong for a 15 year old. The plea is a reaction to said example.


Wired interview with Cosmo in which he freely admits to all of the charges and describes how ridiculously easy it was to social-engineer Paypal, Netflix, Amazon, Best Buy, etc.

The kid (all 6' 7" and 220 lbs. of him) and his pals posted 500,000 credit card numbers online.

I think the charges and the punishment are entirely appropriate.

10 Nov 2012 10:04 PM
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Krieghund     

untaken_name: /always wanted a Kevin, but never had the money for one


Are you also responsible for this bit of wisdom?

i.chzbgr.com

10 Nov 2012 10:13 PM
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Bit'O'Gristle     

Sail The Wide Accountancy: MontanaDave: A Shambling Mound: I feel that monitored Internet access for six years is a bit on the hefty side. It could sideline his whole life-his career path, his art, his skills. At some level it's like taking away Mozart's piano."

At no level did Mozart use a piano to rob people.

This. Fark the little dickwad.

No no no. You forget. A truly great leader takes everyone with talent. A truly great leader is both the hammer and the anvil, and will MAKE people useful. The kid is smart, the kid has instincts. You can shun him, or you can use him for your own devices. Rest assured. SOMEONE will use him. Right now he was just doing things for the lulz. Why not pay him a ton of money and stick him in the NSA? That's what I'd do.


/Agreed. If he's that smart..I would rather have him on our side with a nice paycheck sifting through terrorist communication and hacking THEIR sites than having him against us.

10 Nov 2012 10:18 PM
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untaken_name     

Krieghund: untaken_name: /always wanted a Kevin, but never had the money for one

Are you also responsible for this bit of wisdom?

[i.chzbgr.com image 500x375]


No, but I'll certainly be using it in the future.

10 Nov 2012 10:19 PM
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Jim_Callahan     

Zarquon's Flat Tire: Kid will be on a burner or something by the end of the week. Then he will figure out the next gen mobile banking based scams.


And then he'll be prosecuted as an adult due to it being his second felony prosecution.

I mean, he's pretty bad at cons. How can you tell? Dude not only got caught, but left enough evidence to get arrested. We're more in "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing" territory than taking away Mozart's piano.

10 Nov 2012 10:21 PM
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BarkingUnicorn    [TotalFark]  

Jim_Callahan: Zarquon's Flat Tire: Kid will be on a burner or something by the end of the week. Then he will figure out the next gen mobile banking based scams.

And then he'll be prosecuted as an adult due to it being his second felony prosecution.

I mean, he's pretty bad at cons. How can you tell? Dude not only got caught, but left enough evidence to get arrested. We're more in "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing" territory than taking away Mozart's piano.


This. From what I read in his Wired interview, Cosmo is only good at social engineering... a con artist, not a tech genius.

Forget computer security. He should run for Congress.

10 Nov 2012 10:26 PM
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Optimus Primate     

GratuityIncluded: I bet his parent was beside herself.


A++ would lol again

10 Nov 2012 10:30 PM
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A Shambling Mound     

luthia: A Shambling Mound: luthia: As much as I agree the Mozart quote was ass-hattery, 6 years is crazy. Especially today, the net being as important as it is for every aspect of life. This kid is just being made example of really. In stead of rounding up all the hundreds of his little buddies.

/now i have to watch hackers again. curse you people.

The alternative was several years in prison but he's being made an example of by being placed on probation for six years with supervised access to telecommunication devices.

Got it.

Triumph: luthia: 6 years is crazy. Especially today, the net being as important as it is for every aspect of life

Every aspect of life completely ruined. Every aspect.

Aren't we farking sassy today.

The plea and subsequent probation are not the example, the charges are. Both of which I think are too strong for a 15 year old. The plea is a reaction to said example.


The charges were appropriate for his crimes and in this particular instance I do not think the fact that he is only 15 should have resulted in lesser charges. He went for "epic" and he got it.

10 Nov 2012 10:32 PM
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Optimus Primate     
This punishment is probably the most easily bypassed one ever. Someone with his understanding of the web and devices especially. I give it a few days before he's back online with a new fun nickname.

10 Nov 2012 10:34 PM
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Zarquon's Flat Tire     

BarkingUnicorn: Jim_Callahan: Zarquon's Flat Tire: Kid will be on a burner or something by the end of the week. Then he will figure out the next gen mobile banking based scams.

And then he'll be prosecuted as an adult due to it being his second felony prosecution.

I mean, he's pretty bad at cons. How can you tell? Dude not only got caught, but left enough evidence to get arrested. We're more in "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing" territory than taking away Mozart's piano.

This. From what I read in his Wired interview, Cosmo is only good at social engineering... a con artist, not a tech genius.

Forget computer security. He should run for Congress.


Ah. The article wouldn't load on my phone so I guessed that he was good. Still don't know what he did.

10 Nov 2012 10:35 PM
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AssAsInAssassin     

you are a puppet: At some level it's like taking away Mozart's piano."


Or Ted Kaczynski's detonaters.

Kid sounds like a real douchebag what needs a lesson larn'd.

10 Nov 2012 10:45 PM
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Skirl Hutsenreiter     

luthia: As much as I agree the Mozart quote was ass-hattery, 6 years is crazy. Especially today, the net being as important as it is for every aspect of life. This kid is just being made example of really. In stead of rounding up all the hundreds of his little buddies.

/now i have to watch hackers again. curse you people.


How would you even get through a typical college curriculum without Internet access? And I doubt they'll use it less at schools three to six years from now.

10 Nov 2012 10:55 PM
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Road Rash     
Hacking his fingers would be an apropos quid pro quo. Might make him less likely to steal someone's ID or account again.

10 Nov 2012 10:56 PM
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mediablitz     

Mayhem of the Black Underclass: and UFC.com
WT everloving F? No, seriously, that's what you went after? If it was because it was so easy, you should've put yourself as points leader, or reigning world champion, or whatever they do, and told the webmaster to invest in better security. Did you do it because you were angry at the result of a fight? Now I think you're a petty dickwad, and I don't follow, nor have I watched more than 3 UFC fights.


UFC came out as strong proponents of SOPA. They actively prosecute online violators whenever possible.

10 Nov 2012 10:58 PM
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