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   Want to create a little lunchtime excitement at a police station? Walk in the front door with a hand grenade and announce "Look what I found"

11 Nov 2012 07:25 AM   |   5296 clicks   |   The Detroit_News
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thespindrifter     
I LOL'd.

11 Nov 2012 07:33 AM
Enemabag Jones     
There is a reason why construction work is safer then being a cop.

/I am attempting to understand the difference between being socially oblivious and just stupid, and what that means in current law and social policy.

11 Nov 2012 07:38 AM
Enemabag Jones     
There is a reason why construction work is safer more dangerous then being a cop.

/Posting at 7am is dangerous.

11 Nov 2012 07:40 AM
TheGreatGazoo     
Aren't hand grenades pretty stable as long as the pin is in?

11 Nov 2012 07:45 AM
Day_Old_Dutchie     
Basically, the guy walked up, I met him at the door and he said he found it under his mother's porch," Soles said. "I told him to set it back outside."

Right after he crapped himself.

11 Nov 2012 07:49 AM
Enemabag Jones     
TheGreatGazoo
Aren't hand grenades pretty stable as long as the pin is in?


As long as it isn't something pulled out of a chest from WWII, probably.

Walking into a police station with with a pineapple, police are not.

/But you might get your car blown up if you bring it to them.
//No, I don't know the exact lifespan of the c4 and detonator in a grenade. Please inform me.

11 Nov 2012 07:53 AM
BigBooper     
It's a hand grenade, not a nuke. You don't have to evacuate a ten mile radius.

A couple years ago a grenade hull was found in a local alley. Now this was one with the hole in the bottom with all the explosives taken out. You can buy them at most gun shows as paper weights. The local cops shut down a several block area of our small downtown, and waited for the nearest bomb squad to show up. Of course since the nearest bomb squad is 40 miles away, it took a couple hours for them to show up. They finally got here, sent in the robot.... and could plainly see the big hole in the bottom. Turns out the farking thing was clearly an empty hull. But a zero tolerance policy required the police to react like it was a live grenade.

Do the police want to make it easy for anyone looking to cause a little civil disobedience to shut down chunks of a town?

11 Nov 2012 07:54 AM
thespindrifter     

BigBooper: It's a hand grenade, not a nuke. You don't have to evacuate a ten mile radius.


The idea is to keep away more random idiots from walking on to the scene of live ordinance disposal. Large perimeter = less idiots.

TheGreatGazoo: Aren't hand grenades pretty stable as long as the pin is in?


Not when they were manufactured almost 100 years ago. (Know how I know you didn't read the article?) Yeah, if the grenade really was made with TNT as described, over time the lesser isomers tend to separate out (any trace impurities will make this happen,) rendering it far more shock-sensitive than normal. That being said, Trinitrotoluene is still more stable than most older explosives, but I feel very confident that the fuse would be anything but. Chances are pretty good that there was mercury fulminate or some other similar high-yield detonator mix in the fuse, and that my friend has a *very* short shelf life, far under 80 years I am certain. Lucky bastard better thank God it didn't blow up on touch. Hell, just a few good freezes and thaws under the porch could have eventually set it off at random.

11 Nov 2012 08:11 AM
Fissile     
Happens around here quite regularly. Lots of geezers around these parts....WWII and Korean War Vets. As they kick off, and the families clean out the dearly departed cribs, they find hand grenades, mortar rounds, land mines, machine guns etc. Just a few months ago, some old biddy was cleaning out her basement after her husband kicked off, and found a live mortar round sitting on a self. She called over a neighbor who wasn't sure but thought it might be some kind of weapon, so she called the cops. She took the cop down to the basement, walked him over to the mortar round and asked, "Is that a bomb?" I'm sure the cop needed one of grandma's Depends at that point.

11 Nov 2012 09:01 AM
TommyDeuce     
I must say, that between the "No weapons (including hand grenades)" sign and the "We do make house calls" comment, that the Detroit police (at least at this station) have a much better sense of humor than most.

11 Nov 2012 09:03 AM
WordsnCollision     
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"I'm really interested in this item but I don't know enough about it. I've got a buddy who's an expert and I'd like to have him take a look at it."

11 Nov 2012 09:18 AM
Curt Blizzah     
Is that better or worse than, say, a 'desk pop'?

11 Nov 2012 09:25 AM
stonelotus     
I read that as "lunchtime excrement".

11 Nov 2012 10:17 AM
SwiftFox     

TheGreatGazoo: Aren't hand grenades pretty stable as long as the pin is in?


Usually, but when the pin rusts through on an 80-year old one, you can find out acid and TNT last a long time.

11 Nov 2012 10:31 AM
The Irresponsible Captain    [TotalFark]  
I don't know if I would want that excitement at my house either. I can see where no one would, but what can you do?

There's got to be a response that is somewhere between "OMG! PaNiC!" and "carry it in a flowerpot".

11 Nov 2012 10:31 AM
BigBooper     

Fissile: Happens around here quite regularly. Lots of geezers around these parts....WWII and Korean War Vets. As they kick off, and the families clean out the dearly departed cribs, they find hand grenades, mortar rounds, land mines, machine guns etc. Just a few months ago, some old biddy was cleaning out her basement after her husband kicked off, and found a live mortar round sitting on a self. She called over a neighbor who wasn't sure but thought it might be some kind of weapon, so she called the cops. She took the cop down to the basement, walked him over to the mortar round and asked, "Is that a bomb?" I'm sure the cop needed one of grandma's Depends at that point.


In the past, the cops would alert the bomb squad, and if the device looked stable, they would put it in a blast proof container and go blow it up in a safe place. Now, instead of a couple cops that are allowed to make a judgement call, a large area has to be evacuated with dozens of officers involved. Grandma is lucky if they don't blow it up in her basement and then sent a huge bill. The over reaction will simply lead to more stuff being buried in gardens, or thrown in lakes or rivers where it will remain a danger to someone else.

11 Nov 2012 10:36 AM
Loren     

TheGreatGazoo: Aren't hand grenades pretty stable as long as the pin is in?


1) Corrosion. What if the pin is corroded and just waiting to snap?

2) Ancient explosives aren't the safest thing to be messing with.

11 Nov 2012 10:49 AM
aevorea     
We had a bit of lunchtime excitement back when I worked as a dispatcher at a university's police department (actually, probably closer to breakfast, but whatever). The Chief had received an email from the ROTC program stating that they were doing a rifle exercise, but until it was the time of the rifle exercise, could they pretty please store the rifles and ammunition, separately, at the police station? The Chief said yes because such an agreement WAS part of our SOPs.

Now, even though all the officers on duty in the building, the Chief, and I KNEW the rifles were unloaded and were being handled by those who had had weapons handling training (senior ROTC kids), we were all still quite a bit tense during the delivery and storage procedures.

Always respect a weapon, even when it appears to be and/or you've been assured that it's not loaded, not live, etc.

Another story: one day, my father (who had been in the military and then a cop and thus had been using guns for 10-15 years at that point) was cleaning his guns after a day at the gun range. I was in elementary school at the time and had received countless lectures on gun safety and gun do's and don'ts. When I came home from school that day, my dad had a huge bandage covering his left cheekbone. "This, right here, is why you never assume a gun is unloaded," he said, pointing to his cheek. Apparently, he thought he had completely unloaded the gun at the range and when he got home, he started cleaning the gun without double-checking. It went off and the bullet grazed his cheek and buried itself into the wall.

To this day, anytime I'm around weapons, I maintain a healthy respect, just in case there's a "just in case" scenario about to play out.

11 Nov 2012 11:17 AM
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11 Nov 2012 11:36 AM
Evil Canadian     
Yup, the grenade story again. :)

When my wife was widowed, about a decade ago (yes, got a pre-owned wife), she was trying to sort thru her dearly-departed's things and found a grenade in the bottom drawer of a dresser.

The question was - how do you get rid of a grenade? Call the police "HI, I have a grenade in my living room" and wait for SWAT to show up? Can't really take it to the police station in a paper sack and say "Hi, I have a grenade."

It sat there in her living room, on the table beside the computer, for weeks while she tried to decide how to tell the police there was a live grenade in the house.

Finally, it was dealt with when the dearly-departed's daughter and the rest of the Huns came to take everything they were entitled to (plus the fixtures on the walls, plus my wife's clarinet, plus anything else they could put their hands on, entitled or not) and found OMG A GRENADE IN THE LIVING ROOM. They put it on a chair in the middle of the front yard, and the police came and evacuated the entire block. When the bomb squad showed up, the officer looked at it, hefted it, threw it in his trunk and drove away.

As an afterthought I figured you could just call and say "I was going thru Dearly Departed's things and found what seems to be a grenade". We'll use that one next time we find one.

11 Nov 2012 12:46 PM
Make Way For Ducklings     
I laffed.

11 Nov 2012 12:50 PM
washington-babylon     

Enemabag Jones: TheGreatGazoo
Aren't hand grenades pretty stable as long as the pin is in?

As long as it isn't something pulled out of a chest from WWII, probably.

Walking into a police station with with a pineapple, police are not.

/But you might get your car blown up if you bring it to them.
//No, I don't know the exact lifespan of the c4 and detonator in a grenade. Please inform me.


Hmmmm. Modern grenades are quite stable. This was a pre-ww2 grenade. maybe even a "mills bomb" type grenade. They were famous for premature detonations.

12 Nov 2012 01:15 PM
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