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untaken_name     
Maybe they should stop mooching, then. All this time and you can't figure that out? It's so simple.

11 Nov 2012 08:03 AM
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Beemer     
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11 Nov 2012 08:04 AM
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jjwars1     
Outrage!

11 Nov 2012 08:07 AM
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LordJiro     
And when the ruling classes get too cocky, and let their distaste for the "poors" dictate their policy, it never ends well.

11 Nov 2012 08:08 AM
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Feral_and_Preposterous     
Funny, considering the poor employed people are the ones the rich mooch of. The rich and the unemployed poor all mooch off the working class. Fark the rich moochers with the poor moochers' dicks.

11 Nov 2012 08:16 AM
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way south     

LordJiro: And when the ruling classes get too cocky, and let their distaste for the "poors" dictate their policy, it never ends well.


It does if you make sure to disarm the poors and then provide enough bread and circuses to keep them distracted.
You could keep them under foot for centuries, even.

11 Nov 2012 08:16 AM
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Feral_and_Preposterous     
off of

11 Nov 2012 08:16 AM
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Seth'n'Spectrum     
Yeah, the British equivalent of college Republicans still call them 'Plebs'. This becomes a problem only when you're a top party official and your boss is trying to shake the rich snob image.

11 Nov 2012 08:17 AM
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Forbidden Doughnut    [TotalFark]  

way south: LordJiro: And when the ruling classes get too cocky, and let their distaste for the "poors" dictate their policy, it never ends well.

It does if you make sure to disarm the poors and then provide enough bread and circuses to keep them distracted.
You could keep them under foot for centuries, even.


Of course, if you really screw over the Germanic mercenaries you've recently hired to "keep the peace", they may decide to come after you...

11 Nov 2012 08:22 AM
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DrunkenInsomniac     
Meh, I just roll up my dark tinted windows and ask my driver to move on

11 Nov 2012 08:23 AM
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Deep Contact     
Spartacus! Spartacus! Spartacus! Spartacus! Spartacus!

11 Nov 2012 08:24 AM
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MemeSlave     
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11 Nov 2012 08:30 AM
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ronaprhys     

Feral_and_Preposterous: Funny, considering the poor employed people are the ones the rich mooch of. The rich and the unemployed poor all mooch off the working class. Fark the rich moochers with the poor moochers' dicks.


That'd be true if the rich didn't provide them with all of the tools, factories, and materials for them to use in their work. Then, they buy their goods.

Yet the poor still complain until they get handouts. Maybe that's why the rich look down upon them.

11 Nov 2012 08:30 AM
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Pribar    [TotalFark]  
Too many are, I am sick of hearing what you "deserve', for the most part you get exactly what you deserve. At my last job we had a Guatemalan who started as a janitorial assistant, couldn't read write, or for that matter speak english, he busted ass during the day and took night classes and the next thing I knew he owned a janitorial services company that serviced 5 major buildings downtown, he was the one that finally got my ass moving on setting up my own business, I told him how I envied his success and he basically told me that if I wanted to work for myself then I needed to get off my lazy ass, stop making excuses and just do it, I did and now I can afford to close the shop for a week and go volunteer to help out with Sandy without worrying about cash.
contrast that with a secretary we had, se was paid well, was very intelligent, but had no self control at all, she ran up so much debt grabbing junk she didn't really need that she ended up declaring bankruptcy twice in the 15 years we worked there. Once she came to me with a sob story about how her car had broken down and it was going to cost so much to fix that she couldn't afford groceries that week, I felt sorry for her and gave her 100 bucks and a ride home, on the way she asked to stop at the store, she came out with some cheap bread, lunch meat, milk and two cartons of cigarettes (for her and her husband, a four day supply she said) I wanted to strangle her, I smoke (pipe and cigars) but when I first opened my shop I went without until it became profitable (about 3 months) I could have probably afforded to buy some earlier, but until I was sure my savings would outlast the new shop cash outlay imbalance I held off so I knew I wouldn't need that money.


/ya I know csb, wehatever

11 Nov 2012 08:31 AM
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ThreeEdgedSword     
I love it when rich people forget that they're not the one's actually working anymore and think that they're money magically appears in the bank account. I don't know how it happens, but, it seems like many rich folk think that the people that are actually collecting/making the money for them don't deserve to be paid. In their eyes, these employees are merely parasites on their bottom line that are preventing them from being even richer.

Money has the ability to turn anyone into a sociopath.

11 Nov 2012 08:32 AM
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ComicBookGuy     
I love how the Koch brothers worked so hard to get where they are!!

11 Nov 2012 08:35 AM
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historynow11     
I think Mel Brooks discussed this in the "documentary," History of the World Part I.

11 Nov 2012 08:35 AM
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ghare     
You walk around saying to treat the poor as humans, and that they deserve to live with some dignity, you're gonna get your hippy ass nailed to a tree.

11 Nov 2012 08:40 AM
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ghare     

ronaprhys: Feral_and_Preposterous: Funny, considering the poor employed people are the ones the rich mooch of. The rich and the unemployed poor all mooch off the working class. Fark the rich moochers with the poor moochers' dicks.

That'd be true if the rich didn't provide them with all of the tools, factories, and materials for them to use in their work. Then, they buy their goods.

Yet the poor still complain until they get handouts. Maybe that's why the rich look down upon them.


Yes, you're going to be rich one day, sweetie.

11 Nov 2012 08:43 AM
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Ed Grubermann    [TotalFark]  

ghare: You walk around saying to treat the poor as humans, and that they deserve to live with some dignity, you're gonna get your hippy ass nailed to a tree.


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11 Nov 2012 08:44 AM
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ph0rk     

ronaprhys: Feral_and_Preposterous: Funny, considering the poor employed people are the ones the rich mooch of. The rich and the unemployed poor all mooch off the working class. Fark the rich moochers with the poor moochers' dicks.

That'd be true if the rich didn't provide them with all of the tools, factories, and materials for them to use in their work. Then, they buy their goods.

Yet the poor still complain until they get handouts. Maybe that's why the rich look down upon them.


If only the rich could figure out a way to cut out those greedy moochers entirely.

11 Nov 2012 08:44 AM
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Gentoolive     

ronaprhys: Feral_and_Preposterous: Funny, considering the poor employed people are the ones the rich mooch of. The rich and the unemployed poor all mooch off the working class. Fark the rich moochers with the poor moochers' dicks.

That'd be true if the rich didn't provide them with all of the tools, factories, and materials for them to use in their work. Then, they buy their goods.

Yet the poor still complain until they get handouts. Maybe that's why the rich look down upon them.


Don't use logic on fark, it will get you nowhere.

11 Nov 2012 08:45 AM
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generallyso     
That's an unavoidable result of having everything in life handed to them on a silver platter. People who never have to hold a real job in their lives, do their own grocery shopping or pay their own bills will inevitably be out of touch and look down upon everyone not similarly situated.

11 Nov 2012 08:47 AM
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ronaprhys     

ghare: Yes, you're going to be rich one day, sweetie.


Probably not, but well-off isn't all that difficult to pull off.

ph0rk: If only the rich could figure out a way to cut out those greedy moochers entirely.


Simply put, that's stupid. Who's going to make all the things? Now, if we could find a decent way to get rid of the full-on moochers and keep the ones that work, that'd be different. Unfortunately, that'd just drive the cost of labor up.

Gentoolive: Don't use logic on fark, it will get you nowhere.


Well, duh. The rich are patently evil and deserve nothing. That's well known. Unless that rich person was Steve Jobs. He's basically all that is good and holy to farkers.

11 Nov 2012 08:50 AM
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Amos Quito     

historynow11: I think Mel Brooks discussed this in the "documentary," History of the World Part I.



"The peasants are revolting!"

11 Nov 2012 08:50 AM
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badhatharry    [TotalFark]  
The poor in Rome had it much worse than the poor in America.

11 Nov 2012 08:54 AM
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historynow11     

Amos Quito: historynow11: I think Mel Brooks discussed this in the "documentary," History of the World Part I.


"The peasants are revolting!"


"They are my people, I am their sovereign. I love them...PULL!"

11 Nov 2012 08:54 AM
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AbsentFriends     
And people have been envious of anyone who has more than them since, forever.

11 Nov 2012 08:56 AM
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Benjimin_Dover     

Pribar: Too many are, I am sick of hearing what you "deserve', for the most part you get exactly what you deserve. At my last job we had a Guatemalan who started as a janitorial assistant, couldn't read write, or for that matter speak english, he busted ass during the day and took night classes and the next thing I knew he owned a janitorial services company that serviced 5 major buildings downtown, he was the one that finally got my ass moving on setting up my own business, I told him how I envied his success and he basically told me that if I wanted to work for myself then I needed to get off my lazy ass, stop making excuses and just do it, I did and now I can afford to close the shop for a week and go volunteer to help out with Sandy without worrying about cash.
contrast that with a secretary we had, se was paid well, was very intelligent, but had no self control at all, she ran up so much debt grabbing junk she didn't really need that she ended up declaring bankruptcy twice in the 15 years we worked there. Once she came to me with a sob story about how her car had broken down and it was going to cost so much to fix that she couldn't afford groceries that week, I felt sorry for her and gave her 100 bucks and a ride home, on the way she asked to stop at the store, she came out with some cheap bread, lunch meat, milk and two cartons of cigarettes (for her and her husband, a four day supply she said) I wanted to strangle her, I smoke (pipe and cigars) but when I first opened my shop I went without until it became profitable (about 3 months) I could have probably afforded to buy some earlier, but until I was sure my savings would outlast the new shop cash outlay imbalance I held off so I knew I wouldn't need that money.


/ya I know csb, wehatever


You boot strappy tea drinkers need to shut your pie holes about how you worked so hard for what you got. You didn't build that business alone. If it wasn't for government taxing you guys so we could give benefits to the poor people like that woman, you wouldn't have workers to begin with. They would have starved long ago.

11 Nov 2012 08:59 AM
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ComicBookGuy     
AbsentFriends: And people have been envious of anyone who has more than them since, forever.

Hey, isn't it AWESOME Obama got re-elected, white boy? :D

11 Nov 2012 09:00 AM
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KIA     

ghare: they deserve to live with some dignity


Cite to the Constitution, please?

11 Nov 2012 09:03 AM
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badhatharry    [TotalFark]  
It's truly sickening when the government politicians live lives of luxury when the poor suffer.

11 Nov 2012 09:04 AM
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ZzeusS     

Pribar: Too many are, I am sick of hearing what you "deserve', for the most part you get exactly what you deserve. At my last job we had a Guatemalan who started as a janitorial assistant, couldn't read write, or for that matter speak english, he busted ass during the day and took night classes and the next thing I knew he owned a janitorial services company that serviced 5 major buildings downtown, he was the one that finally got my ass moving on setting up my own business, I told him how I envied his success and he basically told me that if I wanted to work for myself then I needed to get off my lazy ass, stop making excuses and just do it, I did and now I can afford to close the shop for a week and go volunteer to help out with Sandy without worrying about cash.
contrast that with a secretary we had, se was paid well, was very intelligent, but had no self control at all, she ran up so much debt grabbing junk she didn't really need that she ended up declaring bankruptcy twice in the 15 years we worked there. Once she came to me with a sob story about how her car had broken down and it was going to cost so much to fix that she couldn't afford groceries that week, I felt sorry for her and gave her 100 bucks and a ride home, on the way she asked to stop at the store, she came out with some cheap bread, lunch meat, milk and two cartons of cigarettes (for her and her husband, a four day supply she said) I wanted to strangle her, I smoke (pipe and cigars) but when I first opened my shop I went without until it became profitable (about 3 months) I could have probably afforded to buy some earlier, but until I was sure my savings would outlast the new shop cash outlay imbalance I held off so I knew I wouldn't need that money.


/ya I know csb, wehatever




And here you have it. People that want to work, and people that don't. And it really is that simple.

11 Nov 2012 09:08 AM
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ComicBookGuy     
KIA: ghare: they deserve to live with some dignity

Cite to the Constitution, please?


Cite human decency, please?

11 Nov 2012 09:10 AM
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EyeHateOnlineIdiots     
SOLUTION--HANG THE RICH AND LEAVE THEIR BODIES ON POLES FOR THE REST OF THE RICH TO SEE....PROBLEM SOLVED.

11 Nov 2012 09:10 AM
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generallyso     

badhatharry: The poor in Rome had it much worse than the poor in America.


2,000 years of improving technology will do that.

11 Nov 2012 09:17 AM
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ThrobblefootSpectre     

AbsentFriends: And people have been envious of anyone who has more than them since, forever.


Pretty much sums it up.

The catch to all this talk of "poor" people is that it's all relative. I don't own a house, never eat out or fast food, drive an econo-box, and work my ass off for a living. To many many people I am lower working class. To some others, I am "rich", and should give stuff to them. Which is it? Then some of our nearby south american and caribbean neighbors would be genuinely overjoyed to be raised to the incredible standard of living that is poverty level in the U.S. So what can you really say other than - people always want more.

11 Nov 2012 09:18 AM
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WhippingBoy     
The problem I have is that I believe that in most cases (at least in so-called first world countries), your station in life is directly proportional to the choices you make of your own free will.

Case in point: I get up at 5AM most mornings so I can put in a 12 hour work day (for my employer, as well as on side projects to augment my income). I have clearly established financial goals, and a reasonable financial plan. I spend modestly (although I do have a weakness for electronic gadgets), and strive to limit expenses whenever practical (for example, my wife and I share a single car). I make many short term sacrifices in order to realize long term gains.

Contrast that to my brother in law: His attitude is that his work should "understand that he's going through some stuff", so it's unreasonable for them to expect that he show up on time (or, in some cases, at all); he's gone through 5 jobs in 4 years, and is currently unemployed. When he does have money, his philosophy is to spend it as fast as possible. He spends it on the following (in order of priority): cigarettes for him and his wife, pot for him and his wife, alcohol, food for his family, video games, rent, and if there's anything left over (usually not much), he might put some down on his outstanding bills.

Although I try to not let it bother me, I do feel a mild sense of outrage whenever they describe us as "lucky".

11 Nov 2012 09:24 AM
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snake_beater     
Thank you for that stunning insight, Ric Romero.

11 Nov 2012 09:26 AM
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maggoo     
The main problem with this "fark the rich" attitude is that people define "the rich" as anyone who has more than them, and suddenly we have lower class demanding that the lower middle class is all hanged in the streets because they are also filthy rich, with their 3 bedroom appartment and their mortgages.

And meanwhile, theso called 1% watches safely from a distance, laughing at the plebs with all their infighting.

11 Nov 2012 09:27 AM
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Insatiable Jesus     

WhippingBoy: The problem I have is that I believe that in most cases (at least in so-called first world countries), your station in life is directly proportional to the choices you make of your own free will.

Case in point: I get up at 5AM most mornings so I can put in a 12 hour work day (for my employer, as well as on side projects to augment my income). I have clearly established financial goals, and a reasonable financial plan. I spend modestly (although I do have a weakness for electronic gadgets), and strive to limit expenses whenever practical (for example, my wife and I share a single car). I make many short term sacrifices in order to realize long term gains.

Contrast that to my brother in law: His attitude is that his work should "understand that he's going through some stuff", so it's unreasonable for them to expect that he show up on time (or, in some cases, at all); he's gone through 5 jobs in 4 years, and is currently unemployed. When he does have money, his philosophy is to spend it as fast as possible. He spends it on the following (in order of priority): cigarettes for him and his wife, pot for him and his wife, alcohol, food for his family, video games, rent, and if there's anything left over (usually not much), he might put some down on his outstanding bills.

Although I try to not let it bother me, I do feel a mild sense of outrage whenever they describe us as "lucky".



line-in.co.uk

11 Nov 2012 09:29 AM
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badhatharry    [TotalFark]  

WhippingBoy: The problem I have is that I believe that in most cases (at least in so-called first world countries), your station in life is directly proportional to the choices you make of your own free will.

Case in point: I get up at 5AM most mornings so I can put in a 12 hour work day (for my employer, as well as on side projects to augment my income). I have clearly established financial goals, and a reasonable financial plan. I spend modestly (although I do have a weakness for electronic gadgets), and strive to limit expenses whenever practical (for example, my wife and I share a single car). I make many short term sacrifices in order to realize long term gains.

Contrast that to my brother in law: His attitude is that his work should "understand that he's going through some stuff", so it's unreasonable for them to expect that he show up on time (or, in some cases, at all); he's gone through 5 jobs in 4 years, and is currently unemployed. When he does have money, his philosophy is to spend it as fast as possible. He spends it on the following (in order of priority): cigarettes for him and his wife, pot for him and his wife, alcohol, food for his family, video games, rent, and if there's anything left over (usually not much), he might put some down on his outstanding bills.

Although I try to not let it bother me, I do feel a mild sense of outrage whenever they describe us as "lucky".


Your brother-in-law sounds like the lucky one to me.

11 Nov 2012 09:31 AM
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dumbobruni     
From one I get a cigarette
A little more love found
But the ground is still wet
My teeth are chattering
And there's a spattering of seeds
Sometimes I lose all feeling in my feet
When I sleep I'll do my deep in the mainstream
But unaccountably my heart was growing
Small and mean
A hurry past
Wretched people I pretend I haven't seen
But there's money in my pocket
And my clothes are clean?

I said money in my pocket
But I just can't give no love
Money in my pocket
But I just can't give no love

11 Nov 2012 09:34 AM
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BolshyGreatYarblocks     

ronaprhys: Feral_and_Preposterous: Funny, considering the poor employed people are the ones the rich mooch of. The rich and the unemployed poor all mooch off the working class. Fark the rich moochers with the poor moochers' dicks.

That'd be true if the rich national, state and local government revenue and tax breaks plus foreign and regional outsourcing didn't provide them with all of the tools, factories, and materials for them to use in their work. Then, they buy their goods.

Yet the poor still complain until they get handouts. Maybe that's why the rich look down upon them.


Ye Olde Jobe Creatorr argument; fixed that for you.

11 Nov 2012 09:40 AM
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GORDON     
From now on I am voting for every liberal ballot initiative available to me. The sooner the country burns, the sooner we can start over with a sane government.

11 Nov 2012 09:47 AM
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ModernLuddite     
You can work hard all you want, but if you don't get really lucky along the way, and suck the right dick, you'll get nowhere.

But many people seem to prefer their society as a giant lotto with a few winners, because 'IT COULD BE ME', than a more 'fair' system where everyone has a bit more than they need, but no one has the big money. Because poverty with hope is better than comfort, I guess.

//I live in Canada, and am sick to death of people biatching about taxes.
///Yeah, maybe the tax rate means you can't get rich working 4 jobs, but maybe that 40k a year and time with your family is enough, eh?

11 Nov 2012 09:48 AM
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BolshyGreatYarblocks     

ThreeEdgedSword: I love it when rich people forget that they're not the one's actually working anymore and think that they're money magically appears in the bank account. I don't know how it happens, but, it seems like many rich folk think that the people that are actually collecting/making the money for them don't deserve to be paid. In their eyes, these employees are merely parasites on their bottom line that are preventing them from being even richer.

Money has the ability to turn anyone into a sociopath.


I recently came across a question in a recent book of Finance interview questions: Q: How can a business raise cash? A: Issue shares, take on debt, or sell off assets.

Somehow "sell or lease [more and/or different] product or services" didn't make the list. Turning an honest buck by providing honest goods and services just isn't on the front of the capitalist burner. I suppose there is greater emotional satisfaction in short-changing and swindling people.

11 Nov 2012 09:48 AM
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highwayrun     
Why would you expect charity or empathy from the Romans? They invented tax collection, crucifixion, and if a baby was born that they didn't then want, the baby could be left outside the city for the wolves. Surely our sense of civilized behavior has evolved since then.

11 Nov 2012 09:49 AM
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SlothB77    [TotalFark]  
By definition, the rich cant mooch off the poor

11 Nov 2012 09:51 AM
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tenpoundsofcheese     

GORDON: From now on I am voting for every liberal ballot initiative available to me. The sooner the country burns, the sooner we can start over with a sane government.


yeah, because after the country burns, total rationality will prevail. Yeah, that is how it is working out in Somali.

11 Nov 2012 09:51 AM
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