...but I live in the middle of a city with a pub on every street, sometimes two or three on the same street. I could die of alcohol poisoning before I've had one pint in every pub in a 5 mile radius. Heck, maybe even 1 mile radius would do it.

This needs further research. I'm going to go on a 1 mile pub crawl radius.

Hmm, maybe the article is right.

Convenience makes things easier to access?

Sounds like all those studies that I've seen regarding fast food and obesity.

Also, you can take my 3 bars within 7 blocks from my cold dead hands.

Then how do you explain Wisconsin?

My drinking has definitely gone up ever since this great, little pub opened up two blocks from me. I'm happier too.

The closer you live to a pub also lowers your chances of being arrested for drunk driving.

So correlation and causation went to a bar . . .

I've got about a dozen bars within a half mile of my place, so I'm getting a kick...
/hair of the dog

AliceBToklasLives: So correlation and causation went to a bar . . .

And the bar tender asks "Are you two related?"
So correlation responds "Hey, what are you implying?"...

Growing up quite close to a bar i regularly saw discarded empties & six packs on neighbors lawns and people cheating on their spouses who would park on our block and look guilty as sin as they hopped into someone else's spouses car & drive away.

When i was a young adult with an apartment way too close to a pub i had to endure hearing Meatloaf's two big hits played on their jukebox in the AM hours night after night, fifteen years after Meatloaf was getting big radio play.

Flragnararch: Then how do you explain Wisconsin?

I live in Wisconsin. There's a bar about two blocks from me and four more within a mile. Haven't been in any of them in at least 15 months. Drinking at home is better, cheaper and safer.

The more beer you drink, the more likely you are to become a heavy drinker.

Stay slim, my friends. Drink hard liquor.

badhatharry: The closer you live to a pub also lowers your chances of being arrested for drunk driving.

The prohibitionists, led by MADD, have really screwed that up for everybody. Even in newer mixed-use neighborhoods, you rarely if ever see a bar because they'll throw up all kinds of blocks to a liquor license anywhere near a residential area, because FOR THE CHILDREN or something. I'm not sure if they're worried that kids are going to go have a few at the tavern or what.

Basically, what I'm saying is that I like neighborhood watering holes, and it absolutely cuts down on drunk driving.

Hey I am NOT a heavy drinker NOTHING I drink weighs more than two pounds.



/ok maybe the wine boxes weigh more but since I use a IV on them it technically doesn't count as "drinking"

From TFA 'Heavy drinking' meant more than 10 ounces of distilled alcohol a week for men, and about seven ounces a week for women.

So...a shot or so a day makes you a problem drinker? Those Finns are lightweights.

badhatharry: The closer you live to a pub also lowers your chances of being arrested for drunk driving.

Most auto accidents occur close to the home.

StoPPeRmobile: badhatharry: The closer you live to a pub also lowers your chances of being arrested for drunk driving.

Most auto accidents occur close to the home.

can you get arrested for drunk walking? Because I can.

Almea Tarrant: From TFA 'Heavy drinking' meant more than 10 ounces of distilled alcohol a week for men, and about seven ounces a week for women.

So...a shot or so a day makes you a problem drinker? Those Finns are lightweights.

Holy crap, I'm an alkie.

Well, I'm farked. This is my guest bedroom:

Satanic_Hamster: Well, I'm farked. This is my guest bedroom:

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You must have the happiest guests ever :)

I used to have a bar less than 50 feet from my front door. I completely agree with the results of this study...and miss my old apartment.

It took me forever to buy a house because I considered the bar an "amenity".

Almea Tarrant: From TFA 'Heavy drinking' meant more than 10 ounces of distilled alcohol a week for men, and about seven ounces a week for women.

So...a shot or so a day makes you a problem drinker? Those Finns are lightweights.

I've learned to ignore reports about "heavy drinking." They always describe normal drinking as heavy drinking.

Almea Tarrant: Satanic_Hamster: Well, I'm farked. This is my guest bedroom:

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You must have the happiest guests ever :)

Can I come visit?

ladyfortuna: Almea Tarrant: Satanic_Hamster: Well, I'm farked. This is my guest bedroom:

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You must have the happiest guests ever :)

Can I come visit?

Take a number and wait in line damnit

Satanic_Hamster: Well, I'm farked. This is my guest bedroom:
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You ever need help with the rent/morgage, I'm a quiet roommate.

Pribar: ladyfortuna: Almea Tarrant: Satanic_Hamster: Well, I'm farked. This is my guest bedroom:

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You must have the happiest guests ever :)

Can I come visit?

Take a number and wait in line damnit

You're only farked if I'm your guest. That being said I'm guessing you don't have a separate environmental system for you guest room to control not only temperature but also humidity. I mean it doesn't look like the sort of place where you could let creme brule settle or keep cheese.

Bar, no.

Liquor store, oh hell yes!

/cheap

Obvious headline is obvious. When I had two bars within a block of my apartment, I drank an awful lot more.

Spent half my adult life living 3 blocks from Merlin's Rest in S. Minneapolis. I'd go have a couple pints on kilt night, (got one for free while wearing my kilt) but that was it, unless I had leftovers from a party.

Now I go to O'Donovan's just across from First Ave for karaoke on Sunday nights, and I have to drive for that, so yea, I drink a few less pints, but I have a lot of home-made 'apple pie' in my cabinets, now.

Study is bunk.

The UK has a tradition of most drinking being done in pubs and most people having a "local" that is within walking distance.

I can easily imagine heavy drinkers moving in order to be near a pub that they can safely stumble home from and not worry about drunk driving.

I wonder what a map of the US would look like that showed those areas with a bar within 3000 feet.

On the other hand this issue is could be moot in western states where people drive even when they could walk. I've lived in LA and the song "Nobody walks in LA" is basically true except for the poor.

From Where The Buffalo Roamed - How Far Can You Get From McDonald's? is a map that is supposed to show the distance to the nearest McDonalds. I looking for something like this that instead shows which areas are withing walking distance of a McDonalds or bar.

chaosweaver: Spent half my adult life living 3 blocks from Merlin's Rest in S. Minneapolis. I'd go have a couple pints on kilt night, (got one for free while wearing my kilt) but that was it, unless I had leftovers from a party.

Now I go to O'Donovan's just across from First Ave for karaoke on Sunday nights, and I have to drive for that, so yea, I drink a few less pints, but I have a lot of home-made 'apple pie' in my cabinets, now.

Study is bunk.

I used to live near Merlins, free pint with kilt = dangerous.

from The Beer Belly of America , here is a map of where bars (red) outnumber grocery stores (yellow). However no indication of walkability. 

Nezorf: Spent half my adult life living 3 blocks from Merlin's Rest in S. Minneapolis. I'd go have a couple pints on kilt night, (got one for free while wearing my kilt) but that was it, unless I had leftovers from a party.

Now I go to O'Donovan's just across from First Ave for karaoke on Sunday nights, and I have to drive for that, so yea, I drink a few less pints, but I have a lot of home-made 'apple pie' in my cabinets, now.

Study is bunk.

I used to live near Merlins, free pint with kilt = dangerous.


You also get a free beer at Merlin's Rest for showing up for jam night with an instrument. Maybe I should get a kilt and some bagpipes and get two free beers...

That study was done in Finland? Out of the 5 Finnish women I know, two of them drink vodka the way I drink wine. They are also all very skinny girls so they don't have weight helping with absorption. The light drinker and I will go though half a bottle of Glenmorangie in a typical night. I don't think the distance to the bar has anything to do with any of their drinking consumption rates.

i have a dozen or two bars in walking distance, but don't seem to go to them much... i'm a heavy drinker, and while i've kind of failed as a researcher (quantum physics), i derive plenty of satisfaction from other things, and as soon as i get my ole cash flow in order, i think i'll be able to hit up those bars...

Ford?

What if ya live (or move closer to), a brothel?

Pribar: ladyfortuna: Almea Tarrant: Satanic_Hamster: Well, I'm farked. This is my guest bedroom:

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You must have the happiest guests ever :)

Can I come visit?

Take a number and wait in line damnit

Why is there only one wolf on that poster in your room?

Or maybe... JUST MAYBE... heavy drinkers move close to bars on purpose.

Maybe.

I'm not a scientist like these guys.

Sure it's not the other way around?

Satanic_Hamster: Pribar: ladyfortuna: Almea Tarrant: Satanic_Hamster: Well, I'm farked. This is my guest bedroom:

[i58.photobucket.com image 850x637]

You must have the happiest guests ever :)

Can I come visit?

Take a number and wait in line damnit

Why is there only one wolf on that poster in your room?

1 it's a rug hung as a tapestry not a poster
2 it's a sled dog, not a wolf
3 the rest of the rug shows the other 4 dogs lying in their traces between the lead dog and the sled
4 this is the first time someone has been interested enough in my profile to ask about it, should I be flattered or should I be checking the bushes for stalkers?